Here's several options. Can also be used with Win 10.

3 hours ago, ryan said:

new, never used a modified OS or done tweaking of the iso. It doesn't seem legit on their youtube channel. alot of complaints and low view count and other things. whats the best in your opinion OS to install. yeah noob question but I just never wanted or needed to modify windows very much as I used windows 7(happy) and windows 11(sad) with startisback gui

I'm not sure whats best, but sure I don't like Win 11 and the direction it goes. So it has to be latest version of Windows 10 if you do some customizations/changes for your likings. If you aren't a gamer maybe Win 10 2021 LTSC and do same tweaks, same as for the latest Win 10 build. Win 10 can be used until October 14, 2025. And the LTSC versions even longer.

Yup, you can make Win 11 more like Win 10 with tweaks/software... But put on some lipstick won't change the fact that the OS is still Win 11. 

Here are some options to try make Win 11 looks a bit better.

17 minutes ago, ryan said:

@jaybee83 @Mr. Fox @Papusanis this safe?

 

https://windowsxlite.com/2075pro/

 

I have never tried a lite windows and don't know much about the source, I seem to have bad(dumb) luck with new programs, im downloading it right now and won't install it until I find out more.

 

 

update I cancelled download as it seems suspect, mediafire and he put all the effort into this.

 

jay where did you get your pheonix os from? does it cost money?

If you can't get this correct.... Then you are either noob or new into OS tuning.... From their Youtube channel videos two months ago.

User: Ive been running win10 lite iso's for awhile now but have an i7 12700h and needed a win11 lite build to take advantage of direct storage.. your reflection build is pretty great.. although one little thing.. you have automatic driver installation on.. so on my clean install, when i connected to the internet, windows updated all my drivers in the background while i was trying to update them manually.. i turned it off manually and rebooted but was too late and had to rreinstall the os again turn off the windows driver updates before i did anything else. other than that it's freaking great.. no noticeable performance loss coming from windows 10..

@WindowsX-Lite: You could try our latest W11 build, 'Exceptional 11' which has metered connection enabled for all new connections and types, which means it won't download drivers automatically (until you turn metered connection off)

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Trashmasters never get better.

 

You risk basic mistakes also with being an firmware guinea pig. Within 3 days and you get a new one to try out.... Temped?😬 But awful see Dell Alienware go backwards into the future with same old cheapo made chassis to cut costs.

New MEI firmware for 6xx and 7xx Intel platform... For those that dare... Intel ME Consumer Firmware : 16.1.27.2225 [21/05/2023]

On 7/22/2023 at 10:04 PM, Papusan said:

New MEI firmware for 6xx and 7xx Intel platform... For those that dare...  Intel ME Consumer Firmware: 16.1.27.2216 [07/05/2023]  

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, same problem on W10 LTSC 2019, W10 LTSC 2021 and the various versions of W11. I have not tried an older version of 3DMark yet, but I will when I have more time to experiment. The problem is consistent enough that it "feels like" 3DMark has a framerate limiter on the 6900 XT. I often wear a tin foil hat, but in this case the performance is so low that it would be evidence of malfunction more than manipulation. (No, I would not be surprised at manipulation of results for a nefarious purpose.)

Forgot to ask. Same also with other AMD graphics drivers (release drivers)?

When we first talk about AMD.... AMD prepare for more/increase in security vulnerabilities in the future. 

AMD Expected to Increase Microcode Size for Future Processor Technologies

This one popped up from the dark today... Nice name... Zenbleed🙂 Does not require physical access to the computer or server and can even be executed via javascript on a webpage. Just plug and play, LOOL

AMD 'Zenbleed' Bug Allows Data Theft From Zen 2 Processors, Patches ComingA huge Zen 2 leak requires a patch.

AMD's statement implies there will be some performance impact from the patches, but we'll have to conduct independent benchmarks when the patches arrive for the consumer Ryzen products. In the meantime, we've asked AMD for any ballpark figures it can share.

And nice to see that AMD don't bother release a new security patch before end of 2023 for their consumer chips. This means you still can have the same Cpu performance another 4 or 5 months 🙂

AMD 'Zenbleed' Bug Allows Data Theft From Zen 2 Processors, Patches ComingA huge Zen 2 leak requires a patch.

[Update 9:15am PT: AMD told us that patches to prevent Zenbleed are available for its EPYC Rome processors, but hasn't said if they are available for the impacted consumer Ryzen CPUs. AMD also hasn't given an ETA for patches for Ryzen chips or responded to our questions about potential performance impacts from the Zenbleed patches. We're still working to learn more.]

The 'Zenbleed' vulnerability spans the entire Zen 2 product stack, including AMD's EPYC data center processors and the Ryzen 3000 CPUs, allowing the theft of protected information from the CPU, such as encryption keys and user logins. The attack does not require physical access to the computer or server and can even be executed via javascript on a webpage.

Update. AMD's statement implies there will be some performance impact from the patches, but we'll have to conduct independent benchmarks when the patches arrive for the consumer Ryzen products. In the meantime, we've asked AMD for any ballpark figures it can share.

According to Ormandy, all Zen 2 CPUs are impacted, including the EPYC Rome processors:

• AMD Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
• AMD Ryzen PRO 3000 Series Processors
• AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series Processors
• AMD Ryzen 4000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics
• AMD Ryzen PRO 4000 Series Processors
• AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics
• AMD Ryzen 7020 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics
• AMD EPYC “Rome” Processors

Not what the fanboys want to hear. But the AMD engineers is spot on.... from the security bulletins.  "Any computer system" has risks of security vulnerabilities that cannot be completely prevented or mitigated. 

And nice to see that AMD don't bother release a new patch before end of 2023 for their consumer chips. This means you still can have the same Cpu performance another 4 or 5 months 🙂

9 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I haven't looked for reports from other users. Just too busy to make that a priority since everything else seems to be working correctly. I noticed it with overclocking, since there is no point in running benchmarks stock if you're doing that for fun versus diagnostics. After seeing it I did test stock and the issue is the same. The clocks hold, power draw is right and no throttling or thermal issues, just abnormally low scores. That's why I think the problem is 3DMark or Windows, not the GPU. I did try older drivers and the latest, and multiple Windows installations, and no change.

Same behavior for all different installed OS? Or only one OS installed on the workstation? You could also install an older version 3DMark for testing. A fast solution to test. 

On 7/22/2023 at 10:04 PM, Papusan said:

Intel 670p M.2 1TB SSD Drops to New Low Price of $36 tomshardware. I wish we had such deals here home. 

Here's an even better deal. $64 for 2TB Intel M.2 ssd is quite good. I get an 500GB ssd for the same price here home😞

8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

It really does feel like the writing is on the wall for EVGA these days with chronic out of stock on just about anything new and lots of b-stock and refurb blow outs.

 

Hopefully not, but here is a last hurrah to everything awesome about EVGA:

 

 

Now sole distributor of rebranded half cheapo PSUs with short warranty and a few pc peripherals. There is more into this with EVGA than just that Nvidia become too greedy for them. The Nvidia move was just an camouflage for their major change in their business. Let it sink in... First do the graphics card stunt to get sympathy, then follow up later and kill the rest of their major HW lineup. Nice put all the blame on Nvidia and not on themself going out of business. Yep, I don't trust what come from EVGA forewards. EVGA is finished or better say dead as a real PC HW/OEM company.... 

AMD Ryzen 7000 Gaming Benchmarks With Latest BIOS Show No Performance Difference Between DDR5-6200 & DDR5-7400

The drawback of Gear 1:2 

More small and slimy flashy argb gamer cancer boxes on the way from the different OEMs now as Intel have jumped of the NUC ship. 

MSI Unveils Cubi & Pro DP Mini PC Lineup: Intel 12th & 13th Gen Options To Fill NUC Space

ASUS Prepping ROG NUCs To Replace High-End Intel PCs: 13th Gen ROG G22CH Launched, Meteor Lake Variants On The Way

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit with that one. Disgusting. It's obvious who their target market is, and it sure as hell aint us, LOL. But, yeah... that looks like doggie dung to me. 

But isn'yt it nice.... Asus have to find the so called better chips also for the new Puke themed 4090 OC EVA-02 Edition. Asus have now 3 different OC flagship models they can spread their better silicon on. Or even better... 4 different Strix based 4090 OC models will have to fight for the better silicon/vram if you include the 4090 Matrix. This means also even less chance to get good chips for the lower end of the 4090 SKUs😇 

"4090 Strix OC EVA-02 Puke Edition" maintains the same impressive features as the original model, including a boost clock of up to 2640 MHz with GPU Tweak software and an out-of-the-box experience of 2610 MHz"

Of course, it will be necessary to expect an additional cost because of the Evangelion theme. Fortunately, we won't have to wait too long to see what Asus has in store for us "kids". 

@ryan If I install multiple OS partitions on a single ssd drive I usually set them at 200GB. Better have slight headroom than cut it to the bone. 

Edit. Mounted together the new benchtable. Big enough space to fit two 2 monitors. So far so good. I have a fancy all black gaming chair but I hate it. Awful to sit in so I have put it away. I need to see if I find a new one. But it won't be a new gaming chair. Just a regular office chair who is good to sit in. Yep, I rather sit in the old black kitchen chair for now than go back to the new and modern for gaming kids, LOOL

The other table is now for parts. Will probably go back into one of the other rooms. The red color themed on big pad was too much for me. All black bro @electrosoft Same as my new shiny polished all black crocs😆

Not finished how I want the new OS but have put back the other drives. The new 990 Pro have an massive OP at around half the disk. Not needed but this is the way I prefer when the space is not in use. I always put an nice amount OP for my ssd’s.

Btw. Tested out the modern 21:9 ultrawide gaming monitors last time I was in the electronic store. Not my thing. Not at all. I wonder how people can use them in other tasks than in gaming. My eyes went wacko with this type screen.

53 minutes ago, ryan said:

would you order crocks online>? im thinking of getting a pair. they look comfy. and im guessing they improve 3dmark scores as when you post a pic of crocs we know you have a big score from 3dmark to show.

Be sure you get the orginals. The fake may hamper your 3DMark scores. So may not worth it😁 I normally buy them in the shops/boutiques here home. So they are the real deal.

Intel 670p M.2 1TB SSD Drops to New Low Price of $36 tomshardware. I wish we had such deals here home. 

On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 AM, Mr. Fox said:

I like the Z790 Apex, but the white PCB makes me kind of angry. How could ASUS do such a tacky thing? At least it is not as digusting as the Yeston anime and manga GPUs. That just makes me want to barf, LOL.

 

 

Hmmm. @Mr. Fox The white Apex bords looks a hell lot better than this....

ASUS unveils Evengelion-themed ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 4090 EVA-02 Edition

In addition to the GPU, ASUS is also introducing other products that complement the EVA-02 theme. These include the ROG Maximus Z790 Hero EVA-02 edition motherboard, the new ROY RYUJIN III cooler, and ROG Hyperion PC cases that embrace the same striking design. Furthermore, gamers can look forward to matching peripherals, such as a mouse, keyboard, and VGA-support bracket, completing the immersive and stylish gaming setup.

New MEI firmware for 6xx and 7xx Intel platform... For those that dare...  Intel ME Consumer Firmware: 16.1.27.2216 [07/05/2023]  

28 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Is that a new pair of crocs or do you just polish them daily? 😁

Do you read my posts bro @electrosoft?😬 Or only interested in the pictures?😆 Welcome to last month posts.... But yep they looks clean... Norway have a lot of rain, LOOL

On 7/19/2023 at 9:53 PM, Papusan said:

My next benchtable. This one below is not too big or small (LxBxH): 110 x 60 x 75 cm). Perfect for me and my needs. And it's black and not in fancy red, blue or Orange with blinking bling bling. So, this it will be.

Here's the benchtable I talked about. Only one was left in the shop. $90 incl Norwegian tax. And all black as my crocs bro @electrosoft😁

Some live in a big bubble and are in complete denial. Fanboys of the Red teams products is just small kids compared to Sral1994 huge love for CM products.  I expect the number 1994 in the nick name means 29 years old. Hmmm... When I was 29 I had kids smarter than this one.

23 hours ago, ryan said:

But then again I always load up my favorite crapola, Im a gamer boy lol, i'm not heavy into gaming but once a day or so I dabble sometimes once a week it really varies.

Me.... Installing my favorite games😁 @Mr. Fox @Rage Set @electrosoft +++😆

Do you have this great game bro @ryan😬 Ungine Superposition 1.1 is only measly 2.66GB. And you can finalize this game within 3-5 min. You can't beat that, HaHa

23 hours ago, Papusan said:

This OS will probably be a gaming OS. If I ever get the time for that, LOOL

 

17 minutes ago, ryan said:

interesting find, but I just installed my ram and checked out ghost recon breakpoint at 4k, and before with 40gb and 16gb configs it was a stuttering mess and unplayable, now I just ran the benchmark and my 1 percent lows must be around 50fps and an average of 70fps on ultimate textures and ultra preset. because now its buttery smooth no issues. before due to ram I was getting 2fps now with 64gb of ram its pushing the card and getting 14fps on ultimate settings at 4k.

 

0 sources on you tube recommend 64gb its always 32gb. well thats because almost no one really games at 4k ultra. if you have 32gb your missing out on performance, also I turned off my page file just so it doesn't spill over to my ssd not like im actually going to use 64gb. so yeah pretty suprised I honestly did not expect anything, maybe 1 or 2fps more but it was a night and day difference in the GRBP benchmark

Try this. Run cmd as adm. 
bcdedit /set removememory 32768

To reset. Run cmd as adm...
bcdedit /deletevalue removememory

See if this make an difference with half the ram🙂 I expect you have 64GB ram.

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Pretty much everything in the tech industry is moving to the point that it boils down to "How much are you willing to put up with and at what price tipping point are you willing to tolerate that much crap?" I am having to re-evaluate a lot of things, including whether or not being a PC enthusiast is even a thing worth pursuing any more.  It is starting to feel like the term "PC enthusiast" is an oxymoron. At some point I could see PC ownership being reduced to the equivalent of owning a hammer or a set of screwdrivers. You use them when you need to drive a nail or a screw. The rest of the time they are in your toolbox. You don't think about them. You don't upgrade them. You don't show them to your friends, make YouTube videos about them, or feel a sense of accomplishment or pleasure from owning them. You might derive some level of satisfaction from what you use them to fix or create, but they are not an object of focus. If awesome doesn't matter any more, then the only questions that remain relate to purpose and adequacy. Can I make do with something from Harbor Freight, Walmart, maybe even the Dollar Store? Or, do I need to spend an absurd amount for a tool made by Snap-On that only gets used occasionally? Can I use a nail instead of a screw? If yes, then why do I need a screwdriver? A hammer is good enough. How many nails do I need to set? One or two? I think I can use that rock in my backyard for that. Why waste money on a hammer?

Do you need have to play with the latest and greatest all time to be a "PC enthusiast"? I fiddle a lot with older hardware so I have to be put in the category "average Joe"....

On 7/17/2023 at 2:53 AM, Papusan said:

I have the Zotac 980 Ti Amp. Extreme. A damn good card, but I have a Galax 980Ti HOF I'm keen get on the used market (found one here home). Not sure it will OC better than what I already have but I  like the HOF cards. And I'm a collector on older cards. $150 but I'm sure I can sell it back in the used market for the same or even more.

 

I got this one. One the way to Papusan's plaza 🙂

I really like the Samsung USB bars. Very good quality and for an ok'ish price here home. They have never failed me. They come in darker grey and silver and in solid metal body. Not the thin and flimsy metal/plastic as some USB thumbs are made of. Real metal body. They are so massive built that I think they easily can withstand being over run with a truck without any problems. 

8 hours ago, ryan said:

noice. your like a god @Papusan 40 processes thats ccrrrrrazzzy I have like 120 and 100000 handles. Im using deboated windows 10 with chris titus tweaks in powershell....just shows the gap between veteran and rookie

Could be worse🙂 How To Check RAM Usage in Windows tomshardware.com

@Mr. Fox  Maybe we are doing something wrong? Maybe the PCworld editor can help us to see the lights?😄

4 reasons why I switched from Nvidia to AMD

For years, my Nvidia graphics card has served me faithfully, but I am turning my back on Team Green – at least for now......

14 minutes ago, ryan said:

geesh, how do you feel about it>? shouldn't it be 7000plus

 

i would be pissed off. I have a 3500mbps drive that gets like 3580 and does well in all areas its a evo plus 2tb

 

bro thats barely usable, who has a second to wait to load a 5 gb file. man thats a rip off, i'd return it lol

 

 

honestly i dont notice a difference in daily usage going from my old drives 2000 to my new shiney 3k

Depends on the type benchmarks you run. Usually you get max speed etc in Crystal Diskmark and similar ssd benchmarks. 
 

And as I have already pointed out… Sequential read/write isn’t what you should measure as the important speed. You don’t move huge files the whole day or 24/7/365.
 

As for the 5gen ssd above you should see Sequential Reads/Writes: 12,400 MBps / 11,800 MB/s. But you get well under 10.000 MBps in AS-SSD. Different benchmarks give different results. 

7 hours ago, ryan said:

noice. your like a god @Papusan 40 processes thats ccrrrrrazzzy I have like 120 and 100000 handles. im using deboated windows 10 with chris titus tweaks in powershell....just shows the gap between veteran and rookie. But then again I always load up my favorite crapola, Im a gamer boy lol, i'm not heavy into gaming but once a day or so I dabble sometimes once a week it really varies. whats yours look like @jaybee83I saw Mr foxes hes in god mode also.

Here's a fast run with AS-SSD I did with the new Samsung 990 Pro 2TB drive.

Heres the review results of same Samsung 990 Pro.... https://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/nvme/samsung-990pro-gen-4-ssd-series-review-samsung-reigns-true-yet-again/3/

And here below is an review of Gen5 drive that was the so called worlds fastest PCIe-ssd. Fast in sequential speed but fail in the more important 4K random read/write and in the total score. So newer has to be better. Always 🙂

AS SSD BENCHMARK VER 2.0

The toughest benchmark available for solid state drives is AS SSD as it relies solely on incompressible data samples when testing performance. For the most part, AS SSD tests can be considered the ‘worst case scenario’ in obtaining data transfer speeds and many enthusiasts like AS SSD for their needs.…

https://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/corsair-mp700-pcie-5-0-2tb-nvme-ssd-review/3/

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

1.4 GB RAM usage, waaay too much. sub 1 GB or go home 😛 😄 

What is good enough for you? 900MB?😎 Or even lower? You know you risk lower performance if you reduce the mem footprint too far? What is it in English? Diminishing returns? 

What is the Law of Diminishing Returns?
In a production process, as a production factor increases, the amount of total output increases, but will reach an optimal output level before it begins to decrease or diminish

This OS will probably be a gaming OS. If I ever get the time for that, LOOL

Edit. Some really belive in Santa Claus😇

More works has to be done…. But no more time for this right now. The 8th Win Os is installed for the big black box 🙂

https://ibb.co/gzJ7sxB

3 hours ago, ryan said:

haha ryans confused by all his pretty lights

Don't be bro ryan 🙂

Edit. Yep, sure.