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electrosoft

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  1. Right? As soon as I removed the card from the box and was turning it over and over I was impressed with the build quality and feel in my hands. Installing and booting it up just took it to the next level. I was just on my wife's system helping her with some work configs and I looked over at it just going, "That is such a beautiful card....man...." Let me know if you run into any hiccups. Compared to August drivers with the A380, performance and UI improvements are like night and day.
  2. My takeaway of the 7900xtx reviews I've watched so far..... AMD was perceived as being conservative in their performance expectations. I think they could have went a tad bit more conservative. Nowhere do we see meaningful overall AMD predicted uplifts versus even their own last gen 6900xt/6950xt. On average ~35-40% better than the 6950xt..... Remember when people were extrapolating based on AMD performance charts and had the 7900xtx basically matching a 4090 in CP2077? Yeah.....that didn't age well. 4090 is just miles ahead of everything especially at 4k. It is in a total class of its own. 7900xtx trades blows quite nicely overall and in some situations even competes with the 4090 in pockets. Once you look at synthetics you realize much of it is particular game optimizations giving you the illusion the 7900xtx is more than it is based on certain games. Of course if those are the games you happen to play that purr with the 7900xtx then that's the card for you. The results are all over the map but in classic AMD fashion we will see driver optimizations and updates aplenty especially with this new architectural approach. The variance in performance especially when many comparisons put it barely ahead of even the 6950xt is pretty wide. It is a card that will just get better and better with driver updates ala Intel with ARC. RT improvements putting it in 3090ti land are quite impressive....of course then the 4090 just steps on its throat. Funny seeing power consumption per frame the 4090 and 4080 are much more energy efficient than the 7900xtx. I wonder if the same AMD fans who would just dump all over Nvidia for being so power hungry will be as accepting being on the other side this time? Cost per frame (Raster only) the 7900xtx is the clear winner versus every AMD and Nvidia card out there both Ampere, RDNA2 along with Ada and RDNA3 except the 6800/XT. I see Nvidia addressing that with the 4080. 4090? You want the best you pay for the best. If you have a 3090/ti or 6900xt/50xt class card it is really hard to justify dropping $1000-1200+ on a 7900xtx/4080. Nvidia being Nvidia should have made the 4090ti = 4090, 4090=4080, 4080=4070ti, 4070ti=4070 but greed is good (In my Michael Douglas voice). You know either an ultra expensive 4090ti is in the pipeline or a Titan class based off the same full fat die. Overall, it is a worthy competitor of the 4080 beating it on average in rasterization overall and at least trying to stay on the field with RT. Overall the 4080 is the superior product though. Again, 4090 is off in its own world of domination. Personally? If Nvidia dropped the 4080 to $1k or less, I would pick the 4080 over the 7900xtx. I think overall though both the 4080 and 7900xtx should be around 800-900 tops.
  3. Whoa that is loud! I should have had my speakers down a bit more. 🙂
  4. Actual, authorized Intel response to someone asking why his new Asus laptop has soldered on memory for the primary DIMM (I kid you not):
  5. I just finished watching both. The only thing that struck me odd was the Timespy score of 33k which was definitely on the low side especially for the Strix 4090 even at stock. To see it fail like that again in the same fashion wow..... There is probably some more corrosion in there somewhere if the GPU and one of the memory chips had it already. But in Asus's defense this was a pre-production unit maybe subject to looser tolerances and QC standards.....
  6. Kudos for Clevo making an Intel A770M based laptop. Intel continues to work their way into the market and it is nice to see. Still BGA.... The harsh realities of the market. We all saw the slow march of death on socketable CPU/GPU laptops. We're now in phase two where we not only have run out of socket enabled laptops but even BGA laptops are getting soldered Ram, storage and even Wifi in some cases. It's pretty disgusting. The X18 might be something I'd consider even in BGA form because the market is not going to reverse and as much as we might complain companies only go where the money is and there is large consumer interest and that is no longer large, heavy clunky laptops with interchangeable components. As much as I love my X170SM-G with 10900k, it is being outclassed CPU wise by my throw away GL66 12700h both single and multi. This last generation of GPUs (3080ti) didn't really offer much in overall performance gains vs the 2080 Super in there but the 4000 series mobile chips are going to be monsters and a clear and powerful upgrade over the 2000 and 3000 series chips. Throw in 13th gen CPUs too? There aren't enough after market upgrades to drag the X170, Area-51m or M18 R1/2/3 anywhere near their performance. But I still prefer to get under the hood and hand pick all my components and fine tune them (hardware and software) but that is becoming harder and harder to do. 😞
  7. I suspect this gives AMD room to price down if need be on the 7900xt depending on what Nvidia does with the 4070ti (nee 4080 12gb giggles edition). It is a lot easier to overprice then price down for consumer acceptance than the other way around. Either way, no one in their right mind is going to pick a 7900xt over a 7900xtx. That FE sounds like a pretty proper sample! How are the GPU OCs? How's the coil whine this time around on the FEs? Every single FE card I encountered from the 3070 up to the 3090 was very whiny. As for the memory, not that anything is promised from the MFG (OC'ers sometimes forget that. It is running will within spec) in regards to overclocks but a sub 1300 card would be getting a return from myself too same as a poor CPU sample.
  8. Welcome Bro! What model/spec did you pick up?
  9. I wouldn't expect much difference in image quality if they're running identical settings. 2080ti isn't pressing the CPU as hard (GPU bottlenecking) vs the 4090 which is giving the CPU much more work to render frames. It is hard to discern fps differences in YT videos but once you actually sit down and play and have those sub 60fps sessions versus high fps gaming (100+) you will feel the difference immediately especially in fast paced games. 24GB is aimed more at prosumers and those who actually need it but it never hurts to have it. 🙂 Plus with the way memory topology works it corrolates to the 384-bit memory bus width.
  10. Jensen: "If you have a 2080ti it's ok to go ahead and upgrade" 🤑 Crazy bi-generational uplift for top tier card.
  11. Exactly like I said before. If you have a 3090/3090ti or even a 6900xt/6950xt to a degree the only logical, meaningful upgrade path with a true and proper upgrade in performance is the 4090 or wait for the AMD refresh which is going to be more than just a binned GPU and slight uptick in memory bandwidth this time around. Then we have Nvidia with the 4090ti behemoth waiting in the wings to top off their win this time around too.
  12. His results have been sus in the past but sometimes accurate. There's a reason he is stuck around 12-13k subs. With that being stated, in pure raster I still expect the 7900xtx to beat the 4080 overall in gaming and Nvidia to drop prices on the 4080 and then introduce a 4080ti to slot in between the 4080 and 4090 that will beat the 7900xtx. 4090 is off in its own dominant world looking down on all current gen GPUs.
  13. In other words, "Back to our regularly scheduled program." 🙂 Here's to hoping the actual reviews shore up the 7900xtx a bit in gaming performance......
  14. Sapphire model looks real nice and 3x power connectors too. The AMD reference model is a non-starter for me with 2x power connectors and conservative cooling design. Nvidia is in the driver seat for the halo / top end product. AMD simply can't compete. A 4090ti is a sure bet at $2k for those who demand the absolute best and will pay for the meaningful bump in CUDA cores and refinements. Nvidia won't leave that financial nugget off the table regardless of whether AMD is able to double down and bring X3D to their GPUs or whatever magic they will need to work if they want to actually target the clear top dog this time around no questions asked. As for anything not 4090? It's all weak sauce this time around. Every card including the 7900xtx and 4080 (especially cost) aren't substantial upgrades over the 3090ti or even a 6950xt. It starts to become a game of features and price:performance. Raw performance upgrade? There's just nothing out there that can touch a 4090. It is just that much of a monster GPU. I can see for price:performance though the 7900xtx being an option but only an AIB model and suddenly that $999.99 card is $1199.99. Wait for competition/saturation markdowns or go grab a used 3090/ti or 6900xt/50xt and call it a wrap if you're not targeting a 4090 for even more savings. If the 4080 hits below $1k it starts to become a less horrible option. Real reviews will give much more clarity in actual game play but still... And to think I was thinking the 7900xtx was going to be a monster of a GPU based on early rumors and leaks lol....silly me. 🤣
  15. Some 12900ks were pretty bad. I got an SP94 that was actually pretty decent. As for 13900K and 13900KS? I'm definitely skipping both and sticking with my 12900k for now till the Raptor refresh in the fall unless 7950X3D is a monster. Hoping it is the Suprim X and NOT a box full of Crocs.... 😆
  16. 4080's still in stock at Newegg and Microcenters..... *giggle* along with A770.
  17. Lovin the pics and congrats on the Suprim Liquid X 4090! That would be the model I'd pick up. Weather has changed so much here in the US on the east coast that we don't get the brutal winters I used to love. Your rig is now a bonifide monster bro.
  18. If Win7 compliance is a must it is going to continue to be a rough road ahead I'm afraid. 😞 Intel has clearly forged a forward thinking path shedding a lot of previous compatibility as has Nvidia. I'm unsure what AMD's status is in regards to Win7. I see it as most companies eventually EOL support for legacy OSes especially with newer products but also the fact as you mention, "garbage as a service" model is changing what an OS is and what it provides in a detrimental way. I hopped on board as soon as the A380 was available in limited quantities in August I think and my initial assessment was potential but WoW ran a little rough and older benchmarks stuttered or didn't run at all. Now? The drivers have matured so much and continue to gain steam. Bi-weekly updates and as mentioned before WoW runs really well. My daughter's A380 system: The wife's A770 system: I love the stark white "intel ARC" logo and EVGA logo running in tandem. The classic blue Intel lights that have just a hint of maroon dance through the bar matching the lights. She let me know I'm not taking this one back no matter what on pure aesthetics. 🙂
  19. Intel just released beta drivers that optimize a few more games but more importantly WoW:Dragonflight. The card was already solid for WoW, but with the beta drivers I'm getting crazy good performance with the A770 @ 2560x1600 on the wife's display. Everything to max, RT off and it hits ~65% render rate locked at 60fps (her display limits). Letting it run free and 100fps+. Turn on RT full Ultra everywhere and it is still hitting 60fps just about everywhere with Render Rate sitting around 88% locked at 60fps. When she had a 3060 and 3070 in there I had to dial it back to Level settings 5 and 7 to avoid dips into the 40s. Only the 3080 was able to fully handle ~60fps Ultra 10 RT on Ultra everywhere with no blips. I am astounded to get this much performance in a $350 card at 1440p. I can't wait to test the drivers out on the A380 on my daughter's rig and her Dell 25" 1080p 240hz display. They seem to be releasing drivers every other week which is a seriously frantic pace. Haven't heard a peep out of MLID.
  20. Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803333420894.html?ug_edm_item_id=3256803333420894&pdp_npi=2%40dis!USD!US %2436.00!US %2428.80!!!!!%402102e95716595787031711001ddfb2!!edm&edm_click_module=alg_product_l1r2_1375904380&creative_img_ind=1&tracelog=rowan&rowan_id1=aeug_edm_41180_1_en_US_2022-08-05&rowan_msg_id=elecCOWS_41180_%24faf182f289d145ae8182dcb08d720378&ck=in_edm_other&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US But the prices have gone back up....drastically.
  21. 18" Alienware with 4000 series soldered GPU and 13th gen HX chips incoming.....BGA in an 18" chassis?
  22. Multiple 4080s are available too @tps3443 on Newegg since you are singing its praises. 🙂
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