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No XPS 18" - that indicates no 5000 Precision 18" as well - too bad - only Alienware m18 which makes no sense if you do not want a dGPU - maybe in 2024 with Meteor Lake and a new chassis generation - hope dies last...

Maybe Dell waits with the anouncement of a redesigned Precision 5600 (XPS 16) and 5800 (XPS 18) with good old 16:10 display ratios 🙂

"..according to JEDEC committee member, and Dell Senior Distinguished Engineer Tom Schnell" Schnell is the German word for fast - lets see how fast CAMM takes over with a little help of Tom 😉

I'd say it is crucial for those who like the flexibility of at least two RAM slots and we'll see if other companies find it crucial enough to sell those as well, so we get some market competition for better prices, maybe in the next slim Precision 5780 or XPS17/18?

BIOS 1.24.0 arrived: Dell Precision 7540 and 7740 System BIOS | Treiberdetails | Dell Deutschland Firmware updates to address security vulnerabilities including (Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures - CVE) such as CVE-2022-40262 and CVE-2022-33894 Would that update block undervolting on Windows 10 for Intel 9th gen CPUs? I mostly use Win 11 with Hyper-V enabled, so undervolting is blocked anyways. But I have a Win 10 installation with Hyper-V enabled and XTU and TS are still able to undervolt on my i7 9750H - would that be blocked?

You should see a GHz value in TM for CPU when you look at the performance values. If you run a more intensive task, how high does the GHz value of the CPU go? Does it get close to the max speed of your CPU? If it stays below 2Ghz and you are not in battery save mode that could indicate your CPU is power throttled. Mine is at 1,36 because the system is not doing much.

The advantages of CAMM in simplicity and size for the manufacturer are understandable. What I will miss is to have at least 2 slots that allow different sizes of RAM to upgrade from e.g. (32 + 0) to (32 + 64), or any other upgrade combination, to start with a decent amount of RAM an upgrade later when the need for more RAM increases. Typically that will free up an old RAM stick to upgrade another laptop with less RAM if the generation and timings fit (which I had several times).

What does Task Manager show? Are your CPU cores throttled?

Just read your post here that undervolting is blocked by an Intel microcode update. Hmm, that somehow destroys the selling point of the HK CPUs.

Did you try to reset the BIOS to factory defaults? That helped a few Precision 7xxx owners (me included) to get back undervolting after a BIOS update disabled it. Seems we need a signed contract with Dell "If my machine breaks due to my undervolting activity I take all the blame." Still hard to judge when an error occurs, how much was it caused by undervolting and which settings were active when something broke. I hope Dell adresses this issue in an open and honest way. The current situation is not fair!

XMP works out of the box - no BIOS hacks needed?

Here they say dual DDR5 SO-DIMM, not mentioning CAMM @Dell I would like an XPS 18 with a fast i7 or i9 H CPU (don't need HX), just iGPU (1920x1200 preferred, 2560 x 1600 would be OK, no 4K+ for me, I don't care about seeing pixels but getting more battery time), 64GB SO-DIMM, one USB-A and microSD port and some USB-C and TB ports. Two m.2 PCIe 4 would be OK, three even better but no must with 4TB+ SSDs. 90-99 Wh battery, camera and fingerprint with Windows Hello support, LAN port would be nice but no must 🙂 Alienware’s most powerful laptop, the m18, has 13th Gen Intel Core HX processors that harness up to 65W (compared to previous-gen 45W), the full stack of NVIDIA GeForce Next-Gen Laptop GPUs and dual user-replaceable DDR5 SO-DIMM slots. Additionally, AMD Advantage models will be powered by next-gen AMD Ryzen Processors and Radeon Graphics for mobile.

Intel 13th HX announced at CES 2023

Wow. Isnt the hx line igpu less performant than the h line igpu? If yes, than h line igpu could beat your result? I have no real use for a dgpu, so seeing the igpus get so much better sounds great for my demands.

The article works if you did not create a raid array. I had to switch to AHCI from RAID to use Samsung Magician. Standalone disks have no problems, no data lost. At least that worked on 7730 and 7740. IIRC I did that on my old m6800 as well because Dell seems to enable RAID by default in BIOS.

Time for a 7890 and 5880 😉 7780 will likely use the 7770 chassis . But the 5770 and XPS17 could be ready for a new chassis. But those 18" displays should at least reach 400 nits. Less is pretty much indoor only. And yes, I would carry an XPS18 outdoors 🙂

I chose the KC3000 even though my Dell 7740 has only PCIe 3, because I'll take it over to next laptop. And I found only the WD SN700 to be cheaper when looking for 4TB drives - so I saw no reason to go with a PCIe 3.0 one.

I had an ADATA Gammix S70 Blade 4TB in my Dell Precision 7740: died after 4 days. Freshly installed Win11 all of a sudden blue screened and then the boot device was not accessible. Booted my old Win100 from another partition: SSD shows now as MN-5236 with 2GB size. You find several posts of identical behavior, e.g. on reddit. Exchanged for a Kingston KC3000 4TB (TLC, PCIe 4.0, ~7000mb/s read and write) which works nicely so far.

I think it would be a good idea to point that out in the configurator, to prevent bad surprises when somebody starts with SO-DIMM and thinks, he can switch to 128GB CAMM later on.

With With those slim bezels the XPS 17 is hardly bigger than current 15,6 laptops. So an "XPS 18" should not be bigger than current 17,3 laptops, it would just use the space better. Would be a nice surprise if that would show up. Hopefully with more than 300 nits, 400+ would be nice to allow some work sitting outside in the garden 🙂

I seem to remember that DDR5 SO-DIMM has always ECC. Everything listed here says "on-die ECC": Arbeitsspeicher (RAM) Speicher mit Typen: DDR5/SO-DIMM, Kitgröße: ab 32GB Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland. About €180 for 32GB kits and €330 for 64GB kits - might be the safest to exchange with two identical instead of adding one to an existing from Dell.

Hmm, my new ADATA S70 blade just failed, after 4 days 😞 Win 11 BSOD, no bootable device. Booted into Win10 on my other disk. Disk management shows an uninitialized 2GB disk??? ADATA SSD Toolbox shows a MN-5236 with no size onformation, instead of the S70. Anybody seen such a thing? And advise (except contacting support, which I did)?

Realized the P3 Plus is QLC which I wanted to avoid for my OS drive.So I used the delay to switch to ADATA Gammix S70 Blade 4TB - fits easily and has nice numbers in my 7740 which has only PCIe 3, so the PCIe 4 drive will have to wait for the next laptop to get full specs. Current I see this:

I guess they want to compete in the thin and light market and cut the permutations of combinations. I have the same concern with the 5xxx series (or XPS 15 and 17), where I would like to combine the iGPU with an i7 or i9 - but iGPU can only be ordered with i5. The CPU price difference is shown as 10 to 50 €, but you need to add 680€ for the A2000.

Just checked in germany again: going from the standard 16GB to 64 with CAMM is +850€ (so that is just the diff from 16 to 64GB, 64GB CAMM on its own must be counted even higher, close to 1000€) - after market Kingston ValueRAM SO-DIMM Kit 64GB, DDR5-4800 is around 320€ - tripled price. I guess the new 7x70 Precisions just left the price range acceptable for our purchase department - "normal" dev machines were about 2700 to 3000€ for us.