*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

Ok, you guys know the drill.

Please look at the examples below. Validation requires:

• URL if applicable (all 3DMark benchmarks, Geekbench, SuperPosition, etc.)
• Full desktop showing taskbar, clock, etc. (no trimmed or cropped snips)
• CPU-Z x3 (first 3 tabs, CPU, Motherboard, Memory)
• GPU-Z x1 Graphics Card tab (if the benchmark includes GPU performance measurement)

Have fun and feel free to chat about anything related to overclocking and benching here. The dumb questions are those not asked.

 

See these examples for CPU-Only Validation and CPU+GPU Validation benchmark screenshots.

 

Edit: There is a link in this post for some old game benchmarks.

[Mr. Fox]

CPU: 10900K @ 5.5GHz | Memory: 32GB Dual Rank (16*2) 4200 CL15-16-16-32 2T

[Talon]

Just picked up the 6400 CL32 sticks from G.Skill. Plan to keep the better of the Corsair SK Hynix vs the G.Skill stuff. Can't let @Papusan have all the fun. 

Edit: The old forums were there this early morning, and now officially dead. RIP. 

☠️

[electrosoft]

I just saw the old forums are gone now too. RIP old forums.

Now the real competition begins for a replacement.

 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Talon said:

Just picked up the 6400 CL32 sticks from G.Skill. Plan to keep the better of the Corsair SK Hynix vs the G.Skill stuff. Can't let @Papusan have all the fun. 

Edit: The old forums were there this early morning, and now officially dead. RIP. 

☠️

 

Supply and pricing really seems to be catching up with DDR5 thankfully as they are becoming more available than not these days and don't appear on the shuffle like they did at first.

 

I'll be curious to see which sticks emerge as the clear winners as I take a wait and see with my D4.

 

I know running tests with my SP90 and it drawing 208w at stock and sub 185w LLC1 and passing everything (Y-cruncher, Prime95, etc..) saddens me that Clevo most likely won't offer a laptop chassis for it.

[Talon]

Trident Z5 6400 CL32 delivered. XMP booted on my Hero board without issue. Stock run of AIDA64 is nice. Latency is still high but stock sucks, can't wait to see how high I can push these. The Samsung sticks were pretty garbage. These are confirmed SK Hynix as read out from CPU-Z on my sticks. 

[Papusan]

On 1/31/2022 at 8:59 PM, electrosoft said:

Supply and pricing really seems to be catching up with DDR5 thankfully as they are becoming more available than not these days and don't appear on the shuffle like they did at first.

I see a lot DDR5 here home. But everything is expensive and most sticks is below DDR5-6000. Mostly 4800/5200 kits.

 

Got second ram kit in the post today. The 6000 G.Skill kit will go back to the store. Cheaper, yep but no dice🙂

 

Forgot to add in... The black sticks was most popular. The website I bought them from become empty of them short after they was aviable, but the silver 6400 kits is still listed as aviable. Not only me that like it black😀

1 hour ago, Talon said:

The Samsung sticks were pretty garbage. These are confirmed SK Hynix as read out from CPU-Z on my sticks. 

Thats great to hear:)

On 1/29/2022 at 7:26 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Ok, you guys know the drill.

Please look at the examples below. Validation requires:

• URL if applicable (all 3DMark benchmarks, Geekbench, SuperPosition, etc.)
• Full desktop showing taskbar, clock, etc. (no trimmed or cropped snips)
• CPU-Z x3 (first 3 tabs, CPU, Motherboard, Memory)
• GPU-Z x1 Graphics Card tab (if the benchmark includes GPU performance measurement)

Have fun and feel free to chat about anything related to overclocking and benching here. The dumb questions are those not asked.

See these examples for CPU-Only Validation and CPU+GPU Validation benchmark screenshots.

Exactly how you want it bro @Mr. Fox Yep, I have done it before, LOOL

The 3DM Cloud Gate graphics score is good enough for 3rd place on the bot when my new pc build is up. Same also for 3DM Fire Strike graphics score. Should easily grab 4th place with this Evega graphics card🙂

https://hwbot.org/submission/4917191..._ti_2663_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4917189..._ti_5399_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4917188...ti_23808_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4917192..._ti_1199_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4916357...in_24sec_990ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4916357...in_24sec_990ms

 

On 1/29/2022 at 7:26 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Ok, you guys know the drill.

Please look at the examples below. Validation requires:

• URL if applicable (all 3DMark benchmarks, Geekbench, SuperPosition, etc.)
• Full desktop showing taskbar, clock, etc. (no trimmed or cropped snips)
• CPU-Z x3 (first 3 tabs, CPU, Motherboard, Memory)
• GPU-Z x1 Graphics Card tab (if the benchmark includes GPU performance measurement)

Have fun and feel free to chat about anything related to overclocking and benching here. The dumb questions are those not asked.

Btw. The Corsair K95 keyboard I bougt on the used market a week ago here home poopped up today. Great d value and almost as brand new as it was adverticed on the sales page. It cost $231 here home. Got it for $90 USD. Yep, a very nice dealhttp://notebook-review.com/core/images/smilies/smile.png

[Custom90gt]

@Talon, try increasing tREFI to 100k and see if that helps with your latency.

 

@Papusan, what chips are on the "J" series?  I was thinking about picking some up, but may go for the Corsair Domintors when they come back in stock since they are known hynix. 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Custom90gt said:

, what chips are on the "J" series?  I was thinking about picking some up, but may go for the Corsair Domintors when they come back in stock since they are known hynix. 

Hi. Still lacking parts for my new pc so I can't tell. But from what I have seen... 6000 J series could be both SK. Hynix or Samsung. Most likely Samsung on the newer batches. 6400 should be SK. Hynix from what I have seen. @johnksssand @Talon should be able to confirm.

[Normimb]

22 hours ago, Papusan said:

I see a lot DDR5 here home. But everything is expensive and most sticks is below DDR5-6000. Mostly 4800/5200 kits.

 

Got second ram kit in the post today. The 6000 G.Skill kit will go back to the store. Cheaper, yep but no dice🙂

 

Forgot to add in... The black sticks was most popular. The website I bought them from become empty of them short after they was aviable, but the silver 6400 kits is still listed as aviable. Not only me that like it black😀

Thats great to hear:)

Exactly how you want it bro @Mr. Fox Yep, I have done it before, LOOL

The 3DM Cloud Gate graphics score is good enough for 3rd place on the bot when my new pc build is up. Same also for 3DM Fire Strike graphics score. Should easily grab 4th place with this Evega graphics card🙂

https://hwbot.org/submission/4917191..._ti_2663_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4917189..._ti_5399_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4917188...ti_23808_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4917192..._ti_1199_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4916357...in_24sec_990ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4916357...in_24sec_990ms

  Btw. The Corsair K95 keyboard I bougt on the used market a week ago here home poopped up today. Great d value and almost as brand new as it was adverticed on the sales page. It cost $231 here home. Got it for $90 USD. Yep, a very nice dealhttp://notebook-review.com/core/images/smilies/smile.png

This keyboard looks top quality. Keyboard and mouse are just as important as a good steering wheel on a car. The parts that control the beast has to feel premium.

Congratulations on the good price you got and thanks for sharing information on your futur build.

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, Normimb said:

This keyboard looks top quality. Keyboard and mouse are just as important as a good steering wheel on a car. The parts that control the beast has to feel premium.

Congratulations on the good price you got and thanks for sharing information on your futur build.

Thanks bro Normimb. When you get it well below 50% of prices new  you have done a good deal 🙂 Even the Evga 750 Ti I have fun with now will cost me zero cash when I sell it afterwards:) I paid $68 for  it and on  the web stores it cost around 280$. 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919565_papusan_3dmark11___extreme_geforce_gtx_750_ti_2473_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919559_papusan_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_750_ti_90977_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919563_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_750_ti_48433_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4919564_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_750_ti_36219_marks

[Papusan]

The new 1000D Monster + the 420 AIO(rev 4) have landed. And the Crocs is still on the pictures only for you bro @electrosoft😀This chassis is huge. A real beauty. My wife wondered if I knew it was this big, when I ordered. But big toys for big boys, trump everything, LOOL @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix @johnksss @Rage Set @Normimb +++++





It looks like the old piano stool I have will fit perfectly for this chassis. I have some good quality wheels lying around that can be used for the pc project. And they are of course not as expensive and fancy as the $700 Apple greater wheels,. I don't pay this much fore some small wheeels😀 But this will bee good for my backhttp://notebook-review.com/core/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

The new 1000D Monster + the 420 AIO(rev 4) have landed. And the Crocs is still on the pictures only for you bro @electrosoft😀This chassis is huge. A real beauty. My wife wondered if I knew it was this big, when I ordered. But big toys for big boys, trump everything, LOOL @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix @johnksss @Rage Set @Normimb +++++





It looks like the old piano stool I have will fit perfectly for this chassis. I have some good quality wheels lying around that can be used for the pc project. And they are of course not as expensive and fancy as the $700 Apple greater wheels,. I don't pay this much fore some small wheeels😀 But this will bee good for my backhttp://notebook-review.com/core/images/smilies/smile.gif
 

 

LOL, the crocs always get me! 😆

Your 420 looks the same as the rev I got and yeah that case is massive!

This should be a great buildout. Looking forward to the pics and benchies!

 

 

 

[Papusan]

59 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

LOL, the crocs always get me! 😆

Your 420 looks the same as the rev I got and yeah that case is massive!

This should be a great buildout. Looking forward to the pics and benchies!

 

 

 

HeHe. I know you like such type footwear😀 At least I like them

Most likly not a big difference bethween revisions. If you don't have the latest you'll need the upgrade kit for 12th gen chips.

Yep You can put in a lot of stuff into this chassis. I had a wheelbarrow lying around in the garage. So I use this as an emergency solution. And I have to find a solution for the Cpu cooling. Not very keen put the Water radiator on top of the chassis. Maybe a huge big thick fan shroud would work. Make a custom one. If the fan tray is strong enough to hold the rad/fans longer out out from the tray

 

As it is now I think I'll have to put the rad on top and push the air out as exhaust (in push pull). With 8 strong fans in the front I mean this is the best solution. What you think about that? The intake on top is probably a bottleneck if i would take the air from there int the radiator. @Mr. Fox 

[Normimb]

OMG what a beauty you just got.  You've made no compromise on quality ($$$) friend. This is going to be a beast.

Please keep posting parts and installation while you get them. I am trying to learn from your built and eventually join the DESTOP POWER owner.

[sweepersc]

I use the same setup brother @Papusan. 16x120mm fans in push-pull for intake at the front and and 6x140mm fans in push-pull for exhaust at the top. You'll be fine. 🙂  

Edit: It's me dspboys/temp00876 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

As it is now I think I'll have to put the rad on top and push the air out as exhaust (in push pull). With 8 strong fans in the front I mean this is the best solution. What you think about that? The intake on top is probably a bottleneck if i would take the air from there int the radiator. @Mr. Fox 

I would definitely do the radiator in top with push/pull. It might be better to pull cold air into the top and creating positive internal pressure with more intake than exhaust but you will need to test both ways to see if there is any change. I suspect the difference will be minor, if any. Pushing air out of the top might be better for dust prevention, unless the internal air pressure is low. Higher internal pressure generally is better to minimize dust collection. If it is all filtered that may not matter unless the top or bottom filter is more challenging to remove clean than the other.

[Mr. Fox]

On 2/3/2022 at 1:47 PM, Papusan said:

As it is now I think I'll have to put the rad on top and push the air out as exhaust (in push pull). With 8 strong fans in the front I mean this is the best solution. What you think about that? The intake on top is probably a bottleneck if i would take the air from there int the radiator. @Mr. Fox 

23 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I would definitely do the radiator in top with push/pull. It might be better to pull cold air into the top and creating positive internal pressure with more intake than exhaust but you will need to test both ways to see if there is any change. I suspect the difference will be minor, if any. Pushing air out of the top might be better for dust prevention, unless the internal air pressure is low. Higher internal pressure generally is better to minimize dust collection. If it is all filtered that may not matter unless the top or bottom filter is more challenging to remove clean than the other.

Having the radiator in the top with fans in push/pull is probably better for efficiency of the AIO pump, as the pump would be the lowest point in the AIO liquid loop; not to mention that the cold air getting sucked in from the top would be in closer proximity to the RAM and VRM heat sinks. The cooling of those components might be enhanced for that reason, but you would have to test it to see if it makes a difference in the VRM and RAM temperatures.

[Talon]

RTX 3050 Pee Shooter Results -- EVGA card with Gigabyte vBIOS for slightly higher TDP. Good enough for #1 with a stock 12900K lol. 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/26066916

 

@Papusan

When you build your Z690 Apex rig, this is NOT optional as the user manual may lead you to believe...

I finally discovered why my shit was black screening/crashing under load randomly. I thought I had figured it out, but somehow after I returned from training it's reared it's ugly head again. I again swapped to a low power RTX 3050 card and crashing gone. Ran for hours no issues. I put my 3090 KPE back in and immediately crashed in almost any game. I lowered the power limit to 50% and played for hours. So it has to be PSU? I contacted EVGA this afternoon and they agreed PSU and issued me a cross shipped PSU. Upon further digging I notice my 12v rail is dropping to as low as 11.3v under load. WTF? Surely PSU then... Then I remembered when I built this rig that connection was something new. 

If you read the Asus manual quickly you may think this is only necessary to hook up when trying to utilize numerous PCIE cards. Nope read further and it says that unless you connect a GPU PCIE cable to this you will have issues with a stable 12v rail. After I connected this cable, 12v is rock stable and no more crashing randomly. What a ridiculous design that I've never seen before. 

[Mr. Fox]

18 minutes ago, Talon said:

If you read the Asus manual quickly you may think this is only necessary to hook up when trying to utilize numerous PCIE cards. Nope read further and it says that unless you connect a GPU PCIE cable to this you will have issues with a stable 12v rail. After I connected this cable, 12v is rock stable and no more crashing randomly. What a ridiculous design that I've never seen before. 

Well yeah that is ridiculous. Thanks for posting that. Is this unique to Asus z690  motherboards or something that is new to all the z690 systems?

[Talon]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well yeah that is ridiculous. Thanks for posting that. Is this unique to Asus z690  motherboards or something that is new to all the z690 systems?

I'm only seeing it on Asus Z690 boards. Looks like Hero, Extreme and Apex all have it. I wondered what it was an quickly read the manual when building the rig. And like I said if you quickly read it, you will think it's only for utilization of a few PCIE cards. It wasn't until I saw the 12v rail voltage and then managed to put two and two together. 

Also I'm seeing another notebook-review forum, are we headed to that one? 

[Mr. Fox]

There are three. One started by a person I had never heard of before, one by @Reciever and one by @spartan@hidevolution.

I have always used the auxillary PCIe power port on the Asus and EVGA motherboards that have them, but I have never experienced instability from not using it. I wonder what they did differently on this one? Seems they must have done something different because the systems that do not have it work correctly. That is interesting and it would be good to know the reason behind it.

Does the manual say what the PD means in "PD_12V_PWR" means? Is there also a molex or 6- or 8-pin PCIe auxillary power port in addition to that one?

 

[Talon]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

There are three. One started by a person I had never heard of before, one by @Reciever and one by @spartan@hidevolution.

I have always used the auxillary PCIe power port on the Asus and EVGA motherboards that have them, but I have never experienced instability from not using it. I wonder what they did differently on this one? Seems they must have done something different because the systems that do not have it work correctly. That is interesting and it would be good to know the reason behind it.

Does the manual say what the PD means in "PD_12V_PWR" means? Is there also a molex or 6- or 8-pin PCIe auxillary power port in addition to that one?

Unfortunately I failed to read the highlighted part after reading the first part. Sleep deprivation on launch day, or just plain oversight on my part. Either way I figured the PCIE lanes usually never needed additional power and supplied 75w by SPEC. Unfortunately Asus seems to have built it differently this go. I don't see this on any other manufacturers boards so this is certainly something different. 

 

[Papusan]

8 hours ago, Talon said:

I finally discovered why my shit was black screening/crashing under load randomly. I thought I had figured it out, but somehow after I returned from training it's reared it's ugly head again. I again swapped to a low power RTX 3050 card and crashing gone. Ran for hours no issues. I put my 3090 KPE back in and immediately crashed in almost any game. I lowered the power limit to 50% and played for hours. So it has to be PSU? I contacted EVGA this afternoon and they agreed PSU and issued me a cross shipped PSU. Upon further digging I notice my 12v rail is dropping to as low as 11.3v under load. WTF? Surely PSU then... Then I remembered when I built this rig that connection was something new. 

If you read the Asus manual quickly you may think this is only necessary to hook up when trying to utilize numerous PCIE cards. Nope read further and it says that unless you connect a GPU PCIE cable to this you will have issues with a stable 12v rail. After I connected this cable, 12v is rock stable and no more crashing randomly. What a ridiculous design that I've never seen before. 

Hi Talon. I have to be short. I have visit and lack a bit time. I try work with the new pc in between.

If I remember correctly... Bro TPS from NBR saw a gain when he connect this cable even if he had a single GPU. More stability and a bit better performance.

I lack a lot parts and had to make some changes for the cooling/pc etc. We don't have much pc parts in the shops here home. And if I find something what I need it takes some time get it if I order it. They have to take it from the bigger shelves (wholesalers) outside Norway. Then it has to be shipped to the store, then back to me. Only way to avoid the dreade 25% tax on everything. Even on the shipping

Anyway. Had to take of a cover on the cooler head to be able to make it fit on the Cpu. Arctic cooling have an awful support. They need 9 days mimimum to answer in email. Have never seen such bad support before. Yep, awful. And then I need maybe 3 weeks more to get the new cooling head cover that should fix compatibility issues with some Asus boards.

I used toothpaste to check the fits between coldplate and IHS. Some say they have problem with a good fit with the Arctic cooling due the flaws above, but I think this will be ok with some work.

 

Need more screws/parts. Of course we don't have shops near me that have all the collection I need. And the small webstores don't have everything. I had to re-route the possition the Corsair commander Center was mounted to be able to connect some of the fans (yep, lack of parts). Had to use an hairdrayer to soften the sticky glue on the CC box so I could turn it around to put it in horizontal  possition. Yep, very fun build computers whit lack of parts and have to improvise the best you can. Hail, Norway. 

 

And the second 750 Ti popped up. I'll test it when I have the time, then sell it. Paid same low price as for the EVGA card. 

 

Talk later when I have more time. Have a nice weekend brothers 🙂

[Mr. Fox]

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