*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Who in their right mind would pay 4070 prices for 4060@16GB cards from Asus? Is it something wrong with me, or is there some very very stupid people out there willing to pay Asus near or close to +600$ for a crippled low tier graphics card? More vram won't fix the castrated mem bus on the 4060 series cards. And the 4070 is well overpriced as it is.

 

ASUS’s ROG STRIX Variant of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB GPU Costs Over $600 US, More Expensive Than 4070

 

And I would be crazy if I throw out 890$ + shipping on a new Cpu that will be replaced by 14900K within 4 months. Will see how long it will stay on OC.net - May 9, 2023 (Edited Jun 27, 2023)

 

[EU] i9-13900KS SP 111 overall, 120 PCore / 93 ECore, delidded, lapped, Z790 Apex optional €810 EUR (890$) + shipping.

 

 

You know there are going to be Asus Fanbois who are going to pay those prices for those. I do have some mild interest in their 4090 Matrix though.

 

As for the 13900ks.... $890USD + S&H? Mmmmkay.

 

Decent SP though but still.

 

 

[Raiderman]

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

I was looking for an AM5 CPU block, as we know that the majority of AM4 custom blocks will not work on AM5 mobos. I started looking at Optimus again. Then I remembered I have the Optimus Foundation CPU block that @Mr. Fox gave me installed (along with the rad/fans I got from him) on the EVGA Dark X570 with the 5950X. After a bit of research, the block will work natively on AM5. 

 

Going through the Optimus website, they mention the Foundation block was "made" for AM5 but I don't see any differences between the one I have and the one pictured on their website. I am going to contact them and see if they will tell me if there was a revision of any kind. 

 

@electrosoft I have know you've tried at least two Ryzen 7000 series CPUs, but if you had to choose one 7000 CPU for 30 to 40% gaming and 60 to 70% productivity, which one would you choose? @Raiderman Same question to you but I know you have the 7950X, which I am thinking might be the direction I am heading. If you had to do it all over again, would you get an X3D chip or stick with the standard chips?

I guess I would be sort of biased, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd buy the same cpu. I am super impressed with performance, both in games, and productivity. If I really got super serious and dug my heels into squeezing more from it, I would, but life has kept me ultra busy, and the hobby is on the back burner a bit. The 7950X is a beast, and not much can touch it core for core.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

 

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

I was looking for an AM5 CPU block, as we know that the majority of AM4 custom blocks will not work on AM5 mobos. I started looking at Optimus again. Then I remembered I have the Optimus Foundation CPU block that @Mr. Fox gave me installed (along with the rad/fans I got from him) on the EVGA Dark X570 with the 5950X. After a bit of research, the block will work natively on AM5. 

 

Going through the Optimus website, they mention the Foundation block was "made" for AM5 but I don't see any differences between the one I have and the one pictured on their website. I am going to contact them and see if they will tell me if there was a revision of any kind. 

 

@electrosoft I have know you've tried at least two Ryzen 7000 series CPUs, but if you had to choose one 7000 CPU for 30 to 40% gaming and 60 to 70% productivity, which one would you choose? @Raiderman Same question to you but I know you have the 7950X, which I am thinking might be the direction I am heading. If you had to do it all over again, would you get an X3D chip or stick with the standard chips?

 

Whew, that's a pick 'em choice right there. You lose a bit in productivity in exchange for a bit of gaming performance increase (~6-10% performance vs ~8-12% in some games).

 

If that was my criteria, I would pick the 7950X3D. Best of both worlds unless time really is money to that degree that a few hundred Mhz is a deal breaker especially with the current pricing of $557 for the 7950X3D making it cheaper than the 7950x at this moment. If I hadn't picked up this SP115 13900KS to build out my sff travel system, I would have grabbed a 7950X3D for that price and built out the sff rig around the 7800X3D instead and popped that 7950X3D in my main rig.

 

I'm subscribing to the, "better to have it and not need it" school of thinking in regards to X3D.

 

If I was going to overclock outside of PBO and really want to push as much as I could on lets say an older BIOS revision pre 1.3v SOC lock, I would grab the 7950x

 

If the 7950x drops to sub $500 then it really becomes even more difficult again to pick either one. You really can't go wrong with either chip. They're both great.

 

 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

I guess I would be sort of biased, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd buy the same cpu. I am super impressed with performance, both in games, and productivity. If I really got super serious and dug my heels into squeezing more from it, I would, but life has kept me ultra busy, and the hobby is on the back burner a bit. The 7950X is a beast, and not much can touch it core for core.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

 

All depends on what application/productivity they use for the reviews.... https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-13900k/25.html 

[Custom90gt]

@Mr. Fox, I finally got my green sticks but sadly I've been so busy with work that I haven't had time to mess with them. I just booted them up at 6200mhz and have been running that way since. As soon as I can get this new Intern to be a little more relaxed and trusting in herself, I'll have more time to mess around.

[Raiderman]

@electrosoftThere are a few new bios's out for our MB. I have not checked in a while, but they are up to v. 1.83. Testing now.

I dont remember seeing the memory fail restore feature in any of the previous bios's that I have used, so that is new for me. Or I just didnt pay close enough attention

 

Edit: 5 restarts from windows, and no A6 hangs...🤙

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoftThere are a few new bios's out for our MB. I have not checked in a while, but they are up to v. 1.83. Testing now.

I dont remember seeing the memory fail restore feature in any of the previous bios's that I have used, so that is new for me. Or I just didnt pay close enough attention

 

Edit: 5 restarts from windows, and no A6 hangs...🤙

 

What were you running before? I just checked and I'm running 1.74 so I'll check out the changes. I don't recall seeing the memory restore function either. I'll check before I potentially update.

 

Hopefully one of the subsequent revisions has addressed a boot/hang issue with Samsung modules!

 

 

[electrosoft]

After much research and internal debate, I decided to go with a 6750xt as my SFF card. The HYTE Revolt 3 I picked up (it arrived yesterday) has a built in 700w PSU leaving a nice, ample power window for the GPU of ~350-400w. Plus the price and 12GB of VRAM sealed the deal over the 4060/4060ti which I just can't in good faith pick up. 6750xt will be more than enough to drive 144hz 1080p on this 22" portable display (also received, tested and a killer open box deal for $80!).

 

As luck would have it, AMD will be bundling Starfield with it (which I had planned on picking up anyhow) and the premium edition at that starting in three days (11.07.23)

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-starfield-bundle-starts-on-july-11th-will-include-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-6600-gpus

 

[Papusan]

On 7/2/2023 at 8:22 PM, Papusan said:

Finally some smart engineers. Sligh redesigned PSU compatible with ATX3.0 and PCIe5.0 standards.... But with real 8pins connectors on the PSU side of the 12VHPWR cable. So there is still hope in humanity bro @Mr. Fox CORSAIR HX1500i ATX 3.0

 

 

But Corsair should have offered two of the 12VHPWR cables and not only one. HX1500i isn't exactly a cheapo made products. It comes with 10 years warranty. Put in a second 12VHPWR cable, please.

 

CORSAIR HX1500i ATX 3.0: 1,500W Platinum Power Supply with ATX3.0/PCIe5.0 Support

By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 06/30/2023 08:59 AM 

Corsair announced the launch of their new power supply unit, the "X1500i ATX 3.0 (model number: CP-9020261). This power supply unit has obtained the 80PLUS PLATINUM certification and is capable of delivering 1,500W of power. 

 

 

 

 

Forgot this one. Corsairs engineers did the same also for their RMe series (2023) Gen5 PSU models. ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0 compliance come with the much better choice as the 2x8-pin to 12VHPWR power cable. I love it when people/engineers use their heads @Mr. Fox @Rage Set🙂

 

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000e-gen5-psu-review/

[Tenoroon]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Forgot this one. Corsairs engineers did the same also for their RMe series (2023) Gen5 PSU models. ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0 compliance come with the much better choice as the 2x8-pin to 12VHPWR power cable. I love it when people/engineers use their heads @Mr. Fox @Rage Set🙂

 

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000e-gen5-psu-review/

I recently recommended a friend an RM750e and installed it for him (his old seasonic unit blew up and killed itself and they denied warranty). Corsair is pretty smart about the PCIe cable situation. I was confused at first when I read VGA/CPU on the power supply but then realized that they basically give you a bunch of CPU or PCIe power options depending on which you need as they use the same connector on the power supply side.

Need more PCIe power? You have a bunch of connectors. Need more CPU power for some goofy HEDT board? You can switch out accordingly. My mind was kind of blown over this. It's so simple but so smart, it allows for LOTS of flexibility.
Once I move over to a desktop, I will probably use a Corsair power supply. They seem to be built well, the warranty is really good, and they seem very confident in their products.

[electrosoft]

4060ti is just garbage at $400.

 

8% faster at 1080p and 5% faster at 1440p on average across 50 titles  vs 3060ti (and actually slower in a few titles due to memory bandwidth)

 

Only two Nvidia cards that are worthy are the 4090 (by far the best even at that cost) and the 4070 (distant second). Everything else is hot priced garbage but seeing the 4080 actually go on sale briefly at $999 is a little light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I'm definitely locked into a 6750xt for the sff build (I'm sure this 13900ks is going to scoff at that GPU choice even at 1080p 🙂 ) as long as the price holds at ~319.99 or lower in a few days especially when the Starfield promo kicks off and Prime Days / Newegg specials kick off. Maybe the perfect storm to land a killer priced GPU with promo included.

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

5 hours ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoftThere are a few new bios's out for our MB. I have not checked in a while, but they are up to v. 1.83. Testing now.

I dont remember seeing the memory fail restore feature in any of the previous bios's that I have used, so that is new for me. Or I just didnt pay close enough attention

 

Edit: 5 restarts from windows, and no A6 hangs...🤙

 

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

What were you running before? I just checked and I'm running 1.74 so I'll check out the changes. I don't recall seeing the memory restore function either. I'll check before I potentially update.

 

Hopefully one of the subsequent revisions has addressed a boot/hang issue with Samsung modules!

 

 

 

I just went and checked the BIOS releases and the last two specifically target and address AMD EXPO issues so that most likely fixed your issue and problem:

 

 

 

 

Hopefully that works for you. I will probably update just to see if any other changes or improvements are introduced.

 

[ryan]

Ryan the rookie chiming in. I just installed windows 10 along side windows 11. And the difference is pretty huge, everything opens in an instant and games don't stutter. I thought bro @Papusansaid new is always better haha. Pretty happy as i thought id have to buy windows 10 as my laptop just came with windows 11, just wasnt positive. Now its benchmark time. I wonder if ill get higher scores?

[Mr. Fox]

15 minutes ago, ryan said:

No dice..scores went down

It will depend on what you are scoring. If you are using something that favors Windows 11 your scores will be lower. If you look closely, as long as things are configured correctly your CPU benchmarks scores will be higher with Windows 10. The graphics scores higher with Windows 11. It is basically selecting the better tool for the job.

 

Neither one of them are the absolute best for CPU and memory performance, but they are the hand we have been dealt. The only great OSes are Windows 7 and Linux. They (Redmond Retards) don't make any money from the use of Windows 7 and Linux, so they are working extra hard on forcing everyone into using their data harvesting mind-control garbage OSes that allow them to profit.

 

Are you ready to begin "renting" Winduhz for a monthly fee? Get ready. It's coming. Now we have a clearer picture of why installing Windows 11 is free and can be activated using command line scripts. They don't care if anyone pays for it or not. Giving it away for free will soon pay for itself. And, we all know what the zombie sheeple will do, right? They'll fall in line. After all, they passed the COVID-19 obedience test experiment with flying colors (and fancy face masks, LOL).

[ryan]

Thanks bro, im sorry for being so detached lately (just my illness). NO excuses 😛

 

I was really hoping to get in the top ten with windows 10 but it did very little, mind you I still have to tweak it but so far tweaked windows 11 > windows 10.  But once I even the playing field im sure ill score higher in timespy, but Im crossing my fingers, my score was 9228 and in windows 11 it was around 9550 so its a pretty big drop, but ill try. I honestly don't know how you and @Papusan do it like do you guys come up with your own secret tweaks or do you find them on google? 

[Mr. Fox]

3 minutes ago, ryan said:

Thanks bro, im sorry for be so detached lately (just my illness). NO excuses 😛

 

I was really hoping to get in the top ten with windows 10 but it did very little, mind you I still have to tweak it but so far tweaked windows 11 > windows 10.  But once I even the playing field im sure ill score higher in timespy, but Im crossing my fingers, my score was 9228 and in windows 11 it was around 9550 so its a pretty big drop, but ill try. I honestly don't know how you and @Papusan do it like do you guys come up with your own secret tweaks or do you find them on google? 

Nope. We do most of the things you have tried. Nothing special. Just better hardware. That's why I want nothing to do with turdbooks any more. I invented the moniker "turdbook" because they are turds and the sheeple are obsessed with the unnecessary portability of "_books" and smartphones.

[ryan]

Yeah I buy laptops because a 3060 desktop was 2500 and a laptop was 1800. Now it's clear desktop is the way to go. It will be fun getting or making my first gaming desktop..

 

somewhat disappointing as cpu and gpu scores are down, but about even g/take 30 points

 

 

gpu is down 200 points cpu is up 200, like bro @Mr. Fox you said it. pick your poison

 

[Mr. Fox]

14 minutes ago, ryan said:

Yeah I buy laptops because a 3060 desktop was 2500 and a laptop was 1800. Now it's clear desktop is the way to go. It will be fun getting or making my first gaming desktop

100%. I don't like SFF desktops at all, but even a SFF desktop like what Brothers @electrosoftand @Custom90gthave put together are miles ahead of turdbooks. I'd choose that over a turdbook any day of the week.

[ryan]

yeah I know, I don't have a good excuse I know better. it was an impulse buy but the next computer I get will be desktop because gone are the 6970m mxm upgrade to 7970m days. I think i have a few years to save up before I won't be able to game at 1080p/1440p/or 4k

 

heck 4k gaming might be over for the 3060 today as PTR(plague tale) runs at 4k but with dlss and all low and still gets only 30fps, and cyber punk has to be set to dlss quality all medium no eye candy to average 35fps

 

I heard on a game news site 1080p is still the norm its just the enthusiasts making it seem like you need 1440p/4k but the vast majority of people have entry level computers and game at 1080p. what are your thoughts on 4k gaming? are we there yet like can the midrange really game at 4k/60 my thoughts are I don't think we are there yet as people now want 120fps and up and no gpu truely does 120fps at 4k in all games.. The 4090 is close but I think we are 1 or 2 generations away

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

4060ti is just garbage at $400.

 

8% faster at 1080p and 5% faster at 1440p on average across 50 titles  vs 3060ti (and actually slower in a few titles due to memory bandwidth)

 

Only two Nvidia cards that are worthy are the 4090 (by far the best even at that cost) and the 4070 (distant second). Everything else is hot priced garbage but seeing the 4080 actually go on sale briefly at $999 is a little light at the end of the tunnel.

And it will be worse. The twin with 16GB vram for $100 more will be even a worse purchase. How big chance you think that Nvidia will reduce MSRP at launch for 4060Ti@16GB cards? Or is the $499 MSRP put in stone? 

 

Why I ask.... "Very Few Are Interested" in RTX 4060 Ti 16GB GPUs, Nvidia AIB Sources Reportedly Say

 

If nvidia was smart from the beginning... Only released 4060Ti with 16GB vram for $429. Still more expensive than prev gen but they could at least have avoided the massive complaints about 8GB vram. And the price hike would only come from inflation. Not greed.

 

With the review of the coming 16GB variant... Nvidia will get shitstorm Nr2 for same Sku. Not the best if you want sell loads of these 4060Ti cards.
 

[ryan]

I think they were banking on frame generation being the main selling point, but why it causes artifacts in most senerios. I personally think they put their chickens in the wrong basket as I personally don't care for dlss 2 or 3, looks worse performs better go figure.

[Clamibot]

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

After much research and internal debate, I decided to go with a 6750xt as my SFF card. The HYTE Revolt 3 I picked up (it arrived yesterday) has a built in 700w PSU leaving a nice, ample power window for the GPU of ~350-400w. Plus the price and 12GB of VRAM sealed the deal over the 4060/4060ti which I just can't in good faith pick up. 6750xt will be more than enough to drive 144hz 1080p on this 22" portable display (also received, tested and a killer open box deal for $80!).

 

As luck would have it, AMD will be bundling Starfield with it (which I had planned on picking up anyhow) and the premium edition at that starting in three days (11.07.23)

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-starfield-bundle-starts-on-july-11th-will-include-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-6600-gpus

 

 

This is an awesome announcement! I'm glad I'm a part of this community, and the fact I get news from here that I otherwise wouldn't have heard about is one of the things that make this community a great place.

 

I've been waiting over a year to complete my desktop. I haven't been able to find a GPU I want for a reasonable price, but the 6950 XT has been steadily dropping in price over that period of time. I'm glad to see AMD is now doing a new game bundle with a game I actually care about. That may be one of the things that pushes me to finally buy a 6950 XT, since now one can be had for $570 on Newegg. Just gotta wait a few days and hope they don't go out of stock before the bundle starts.

 

Oh, and Newegg's Fantastech sale starts on July 10th as well, so maybe prices on the 6950 XT will go a bit lower then. The stars really are aligning for me right now. I just hope my frugal side doesn't take over and compels me to wait until all deals are over and stock is depleted. 🤣 Great way to never buy anything!

 

43 minutes ago, ryan said:

yeah I know, I don't have a good excuse I know better. it was an impulse buy but the next computer I get will be desktop because gone are the 6970m mxm upgrade to 7970m days. I think i have a few years to save up before I won't be able to game at 1080p/1440p/or 4k

 

heck 4k gaming might be over for the 3060 today as PTR(plague tale) runs at 4k but with dlss and all low and still gets only 30fps, and cyber punk has to be set to dlss quality all medium no eye candy to average 35fps

 

I heard on a game news site 1080p is still the norm its just the enthusiasts making it seem like you need 1440p/4k but the vast majority of people have entry level computers and game at 1080p. what are your thoughts on 4k gaming? are we there yet like can the midrange really game at 4k/60 my thoughts are I don't think we are there yet as people now want 120fps and up and no gpu truely does 120fps at 4k in all games.. The 4090 is close but I think we are 1 or 2 generations away

 

1080p 144 fps is my target. I'd rather have a high framerate than a high resolution as motion smoothness makes games more immersive for me. That being said, 1080p is my baseline resolution that I won't go lower on unless the screen is very small, like on my Steam Deck.

 

1080p is still the norm, and likely will stay the norm for quite a while until prices on 1440p and 4K panels match that of current 1080p panels. The fact of the matter is 1080p seems to either still look good enough for most people (evidenced by Steam's hardware survey), myself included, or people just don't want to spend money on ridiculously overpriced monitors. Not to mention the hardware you need to get good performance with those ultra high resolution monitors. The upgrade in visuals just isn't worth the monetary costs involved to acquire the hardware to achieve them.

 

I did get a 1440p ultrawide monitor a few months ago, specifically the Dell S3422DWG, and I absolutely love it. I got it mainly for work so I could see more information on a screen at once since I'm not a fan of multi-monitor setups. I never got the point of those, but my personal preference is to have one big screen so I don't have to see annoying borders. It absolutely rocks for gaming, but the increase in immersiveness over my Asus VG248QE is due to the increase in field of vision rather than resolution. I'm still happy with my Asus VG248QE and still use it for games I can't achieve 144 fps on with the Dell S3422DWG due to the much higher resolution. 1080p still looks great to me!

 

In my opinion, ultra high resolution monitors give much more of a benefit in productivity than in gaming. Having used a 4K monitor myself at an office, I like the higher resolution for productivity as I can see a butt ton of information on the screen at once with my hawk vision and 100% scaling. For gaming, yeah it does look better, but the difference isn't huge like jumping from 480p to 1080p. The biggest difference is the crispness of faraway objects, but I'm happy to sacrifice that to quadruple my framerate.

 

Once 4K at 144 fps is achievable on all games without needing a graphics card that costs more than $1000, then I'll be interested in 4K for gaming.

[ryan]

9 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

Once 4K at 144 fps is achievable on all games without needing a graphics card that costs more than $1000, then I'll be interested in 4K for gaming.

this is my argument. Yes I game at 4k but only because I bought a 4k tv and it just works, im mainly playing 7 yearold games though and when I try to push newer games at 4k things fall apart with only a few exceptions like THPS and crysis. I don't need 120 or 144hz but it is nice. TBH I sometimes lower the resolution to 1440p or 1080p and run in windowed mode and just center it so its like a big monitor in front of me vs the entire screen 55in that I have to physically move my head to see everything. I love how robust a 4k tv can be for gaming when being used as a monitor. kinda like 1080p looks great in windowed mode, 1440p awesome and a bit bigger, 4k woah. I think it would be the ultimate setup to have a new quantum dot oled 55in tv hooked up to a desktop with a 4090, but thats way out of my budget so 4k triluminos and 3060 it is 😛

[electrosoft]

27 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

This is an awesome announcement! I'm glad I'm a part of this community, and the fact I get news from here that I otherwise wouldn't have heard about is one of the things that make this community a great place.

 

I've been waiting over a year to complete my desktop. I haven't been able to find a GPU I want for a reasonable price, but the 6950 XT has been steadily dropping in price over that period of time. I'm glad to see AMD is now doing a new game bundle with a game I actually care about. That may be one of the things that pushes me to finally buy a 6950 XT, since now one can be had for $570 on Newegg. Just gotta wait a few days and hope they don't go out of stock before the bundle starts.

 

Oh, and Newegg's Fantastech sale starts on July 10th as well, so maybe prices on the 6950 XT will go a bit lower then. The stars really are aligning for me right now. I just hope my frugal side doesn't take over and compels me to wait until all deals are over and stock is depleted. 🤣 Great way to never buy anything!

 

 

1080p 144 fps is my target. I'd rather have a high framerate than a high resolution as motion smoothness makes games more immersive for me. That being said, 1080p is my baseline resolution that I won't go lower on unless the screen is very small, like on my Steam Deck.

 

I am happy and thankful the spirit of NBR carried on over here. It has become my first stop of the day usually over a cup of tea.

 

The Fantastech is exactly what I'm banking on too. I noticed the model of 6750xt I'm targeting (this MSI) is already $319.99 and has Fantastech price protection in place already but I have to wait till the 11th to buy it to match the promo with it.  I'm expecting the 6750xt to most likely be ~$279.99-$299.99 for the Fantastech event. Toss in a free ~$70-80 game code for the premium edition and it becomes an easy pick up for me.

 

The good news is it looks like this promo runs through September for Starfield so if I miss it this time around I will have to watch and wait for another sale to pick up another one.

 

6950xt at 1080 144hz for you will be almost a lock for most games.

[Clamibot]

3 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I am happy and thankful the spirit of NBR carried on over here. It has become my first stop of the day usually over a cup of tea.

 

The Fantastech is exactly what I'm banking on too. I noticed the model of 6750xt I'm targeting (this MSI) is already $319.99 and has Fantastech price protection in place already but I have to wait till the 11th to buy it to match the promo with it.  I'm expecting the 6750xt to most likely be ~$279.99-$299.99 for the Fantastech event. Toss in a free ~$70-80 game code for the premium edition and it becomes an easy pick up for me.

 

The good news is it looks like this promo runs through September for Starfield so if I miss it this time around I will have to watch and wait for another sale to pick up another one.

 

6950xt at 1080 144hz for you will be almost a lock for most games.

 

Yep, exactly why I was looking at the 6950 XT. The 7900 XT and 7900 XTX are too high priced for me to ever consider, and currently the 6950 XT offers a better price to performance ratio than those two cards. I'm getting really tired of waiting to complete my desktop and want to use it for everything now. I'd been using it as a machine to make game builds while I do active development on my X170SM-G, but I'd like to be able to use my desktop for active development and gaming as well.

 

The overwhelming majority of the newer games I have in my library (released 2015 and after) have a significant performance advantage on AMD hardware. The 6950 XT should keep me happy for quite a while as it will have a significant amount of performance headroom left to spare, allowing me to keep that 144 fps in all my games for a few GPU generations.

 

Also, I wanted to turn my new desktop into a hackintosh, so AMD GPUs are my only option anyway if I want GPU acceleration in MacOS. The 6950 XT is perfect as it will meet all my needs. There's no reason for me to go for Nvidia GPUs anymore since AMD's offerings are more useful for my needs.

 

I'm hyped for Starfield. I enjoy Bethesda titles quite a bit.