*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

I am doing a little 14900KS binning for fun. I’ve got to say though, I’m impressed by the SP99 KS chip lol. Insanely good IMC its an MCSP 82, very strong P Cores with 5.9+ of course, It could not touch my R batch which to this day will still do (5.7Ghz (8P) (6.0Ghz 2P)/4.4E XMP 8200@1.110V load (Even while re-lidded) and 238 watts R23.

 

Anyways, I have another 14900KS that will be here tomorrow. And if it has a weak IMC, I’m going to proudly keep the SP99 chip which I just can’t fault for a second it’s a beast of a performer. I was so impressed that the SP99 could run DDR5 8400 (262k tREFI) with less than 1.400V VDD/VDDQ. And also hold down 5.9P-6.2P@1.208V load.
 

I’m okay if the chip doesn’t have ground breaking P/E cores. 
 

I can’t really recommend a 14900KS if someone has an AIO cooler though. Maybe if it’s some crazy good chip. The thing is, a 14900K or 14900Kf will more than likely run 5.7 or even 5.8Ghz with less load voltage/load power and less load heat. So this makes a KS completely useless with weak cooling since they are literally binned to run for 5.9+ ONLY. Hence why you have all of these bad reviews of people hating on them saying it’s worse than their K/KF.  😎 

 

I’m wondering how many returned KS chips there are that were actually probably strong lol.

[Raiderman]

16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I ran it before I posted just so I could have a valid basis to speak on the topic. My score seemed lower than I expected compared to other submissions (mine was like 9950 or something) but I did not look at the others to see if they were overclocking the GPU. I just ran it stock so I could see if there was anything to be happy or complain about.

 

There was neither a reason to be happy nor one to complain. It just seems like a silly toy benchmark rather than a legit test of system performance. As such it seems like of a pointless endeavor aimed at entertainment more than a meaningful benchmark.

 

It was comical to me that they added audio for the kiddos. Besides not seeming nearly stressful enough to be meaningful, it seemed extremely short. They must be worried about turdbooks overheating if it runs more than a couple of minutes. The only thing I really think is worth complaining about is UL's approach in general, overall. They suck now, but so do most of the other players in the PC tech space.

Ya, it's just another speed way Benchmark. It's not a time spy replacement for sure.

[seanwee]

On 5/12/2024 at 11:07 AM, ryan said:

 

thankfully I found that. looks like everyone has the same problem so I guess im getting premo performance out of it..lolz average as per my luck/choices.

 

I am debating on risking never being able to set foot in visions, 3k is alot of cashola. I would make them take it back. ha its funny because I went in this with a level head thinking....ok this thing will run hot with its i9 and if i get stock performance out of the gpu thats better than my omen experience. well it scores 19500 on gpu stock no overclock but thats about it for scores. I cant push it, only way to get a higher gpu score is to disable e cores in bios then overclock it like crazy in turbo mode, but just like it sounds it gets toasty, top plate was smoking hot with my cooler, so i removed cooler thinking the vents might have just been blocked and it was inhibiting the cooling. in the end its the same temps but laptop chassis feels cool to the touch even after 40 min session. played ratchet and clank for 20 min and was around 90-120fps maxed at 1600p and then some 2019 grid the racing game for an hour. felt the hot spot and it was just luke warm, so its possible the temps are false because it sure isn't throttling or feeling hot it just says 99-100c but funny thing is when its at 99c it boosts from 5100 to 5400mhz lol this thing caught my schizophrenia, it litterally is crazy, I set the tdp to 50w and the thing boosts to 5.4ghz and reports 55w and basically behaves the same if it were 157w...thats a first in computing for me.

 

honestly I think this laptop is designed for newbs to just run great out of the box but not designed nor allowing tweaking to improve or modify. I have changed the nvidia control panel settings with nvidia profile inspector and when id typically see a 5-10percent boost im seeing 0.1 percent change up or down. very interesting laptop in that i hope this isnt the future. I thought it was bad enough they removed mxm ect but locking software settings to save time on the phone troubleshooting with a random guy...terrible very cheap..

 

but as far as laptops for 3k and a 4080 go i had a legion locked for 2800 but with a amd 7945hx and im glad i didn't go for it as the miniled display on this laptop is incred. I actually got wowed with how smooth and clear it is, it actually makes the games look better while moving. sure it has great colors but i have a sony and lg tv for that sort of thing. its the motion that blows me away.

 

to keep or not to keep.

 

i need your guys opinion. keep in mind its a monster upgrade over what i typically have. and im happy with stock performance. ok so ive decided to disable e cores and overclock gpu and heres the end result..

 

is this worth 3k over a 3060.

 

 

heres what it can do with a little bump of gpu and a bump down to cpu

 

and in the end its for gaming heres cyber punk 1440p highest preset.

 

and the verdict. its better than a 4070 desktop so as far as pricing goes its a fair deal.

 

 

using the same settings without FG at 1440 I ran benchmark and got 46fps average which is 8-10fps higher than his stock 4070

 

 

actually if its around an overclocked 4070 I got ripped...saw this of course after a purchase.

Legion Tower 5i Gen 8 (Intel) with RTX 4070 | Lenovo CA

 

2100cad. building my own would be the way to go but im honestly thinking of just returning this and using my 3060 laptop as it plays all games just fine albeit dailed down settings at 4k.

 

@Clamibot honestly its not worth upgrading to the bleeding edge. if games were good and being released that needed a 4080 it would be ok but thats it we are left with crappy console ports. I would skip 4090 generation, but if you do decide to jump on it consider a miniled laptop with a 4080, only brave shunt modders benefit from the 4090s power. I think @seanwee broke 26k gpu in timespy.

 

 

27k timespy

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/41043655

 

And now

 

Steel Nomad DX12

 

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/43058

[electrosoft]

Stock run no OCs on anything and on my bloaty install with browser and stuff running..... (Set the baseline as low and bloaty/non OC as possible):

 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/111942073

[tps3443]

I think I got lucky! My 2nd 14900KS from Amazon was a SP108. 😂

 

 

[Raiderman]

Anyone have experience with amdvbflash? I want to flash the taichi aqua vbios to my card since it's a 3ghz stock bios. I get device mismatch and am directed to use the -fp command (force flash) but it doesn't work.

[electrosoft]

33 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I think I got lucky! My 2nd 14900KS from Amazon was a SP108. 😂

 

 

 

Oh, might be a banger! Post the V/F and MC shots. 🙂

 

 

[tps3443]

27 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Oh, might be a banger! Post the V/F and MC shots. 🙂

 

 

This is the SP108. The vfcurve img is the link below. 5.9 is 1.378v

 

 

https://imgur.com/YZcsE5M

[electrosoft]

3 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

This is the SP108. The vfcurve img is the link below. 5.9 is 1.378v

 

 

https://imgur.com/YZcsE5M

 

Nice! Not golden, but definitely WAY above average, congrats! On your setup lidded, it will be interesting to see how close it is to the "Junker" SP99 you're testing out atm.

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

1 minute ago, electrosoft said:

 

Nice! Not golden, but definitely WAY above average, congrats! On your setup lidded, it will be interesting to see how close it is to the "Junker" SP99 you're testing out atm.

 

 

 

 

Hey you Don’t call my SP99 a junker! Thats my baby! JK!! It’s a total junker 🤣

 

Yeah this SP108 ain’t bad it doesn’t have a SA bug like the SP99. 

[Mr. Fox]

My 14900KF with the "SA Bug" is a good CPU. I run it 24/7 with the memory at 8200 CL36 with about 1.175V VCCSA on the MSI ITX mobo and it is solid.

 

This is a pretty silly benchmark. Scores are about the same with e-cores disable as with them enabled. Not impressed. I think it is crappier than Port Royal due to no ray tracing and I have always hated Port Royal. No way in hell this replaces Time Spy unless the person trying to measure overall system performance is an ignoramus. Here is a run with the GPU stock. Maybe a replacement for Speed Way but I think Speed Way is actual more taxing than this cartoon benchmark. I think what we are seeing here is hardware under-utilization. It doesn't seem like anything is working all that hard in the process. Roughly the equivalent of a typical game run at 4K, so nothing to write home about.

 

[tps3443]

48 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

My 14900KF with the "SA Bug" is a good CPU. I run at 24/7 with the memory at 8200 CL36 with about 1.175V VCCSA on the MSI ITX mobo and it is solid.

 

This is a pretty silly benchmark. Scores are about the same with e-cores disable as with them enabled. Not impressed. I think it is crappier than Port Royal due to no ray tracing and I have always hated Port Royal. No way in hell this replaces Time Spy unless the person trying to measure overall system performance is an ignoramus. Here is a run with the GPU stock. Maybe a replacement for Speed Way but I think Speed Way is actual more taxing than this cartoon benchmark. I think what we are seeing here is hardware under-utilization. It doesn't seem like anything is working all that hard in the process. Roughly the equivalent of a typical game run at 4K, so nothing to write home about.

 

Make sure to test it with Vulkan API, it scores higher in Vulkan. 🤷‍♂️ Not sure why. 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Make sure to test it with Vulkan API, it scores higher in Vulkan. 🤷‍♂️ Not sure why. 

Thank you. I did not even notice you could change the API. I will try that.

 

I don't know the technical reason why, other tham Micro$lop is just a chintzy organization run by stupid goons. Vulkan is almost always better. DX12 has always sucked in varying degrees of suckiness. But, when you are a lousy company run by idiots then nobody should expect anything but smelly brown stuff to ooze from your bottom.

[tps3443]

This is all pics of the 2nd 14900KS I got from Amazon today. Was pretty surprised. I honestly did not care what SP it was. 

No SA bug, great IMC, and nice P/E cores. 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

This is all pics of the 2nd 14900KS I got from Amazon today. Was pretty surprised. I honestly did not care what SP it was. 

No SA bug, great IMC, and nice P/E cores. 

You always seem to be blessed with fantastic luck getting getting less than horrible CPUs through retail channels and I have the exact opposite experience. The last half dozen I bought new were junk that wasn't worth owning. I have to pay new (or slightly higher) prices for used CPUs the seller doesn't want just to avoid getting worthless garbage. Maybe God is trying to send a message to me that I need to stop wasting my money on computers.

 

It's never been harder to be happy with my purchases than it has been the past couple of years. And, the dung fest Winduhz has shaped up to be is so repulsive that I have a difficult time finding words to accurately describe the magnitude of my disappointment, rage and disgust with Micro$lop. (I can think of some, but my parents raised me better than to use horrible words like that.) Maybe the nicest thing I can say is that I detest what a loathesome bunch of brain-dead monkeys they have become and hate their digital cancer even more than those stupid monkeys.

 

Looks like UL is getting dumber each time I visit the web page. Classic Search doesn't show the newer benchmark and the new search style is garbage. As best I can tell just about all the new cartoon benchmarks that are higher than mine are overclocked above 3000 on core. It's hard to tell using the crappy new search tool. It's got too many limitations to be useful and shows me stuff I don't care about.

 

If they wanted to do something intelligent they would add a filter to toggle stock and overclock. If their AI isn't broken they could identify anything higher that reference GPU AMD/NVIDIA boost clocks and flag everything higher as overclocked. 

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

You always seem to be blessed with fantastic luck getting getting less than horrible CPUs through retail channels and I have the exact opposite experience. The last half dozen I bought new were junk that wasn't worth owning. I have to pay new (or slightly higher) prices for used CPUs the seller doesn't want just to avoid getting worthless garbage. Maybe God is trying to send a message to me that I need to stop wasting my money on computers.

 

It's never been harder to be happy with my purchases than it has been the past couple of years. And, the dung fest Winduhz has shaped up to be is so repulsive that I have a difficult time finding words to accurate describe the magnitude of my disappointment, rage and disgust with Micro$lop. (I can think of some, but my parents raised me better than to use horrible words like that.) Maybe the nicest thing I can say is that I detest what a loathesome bunch of brain-dead monkeys they have become and hate their digital cancer even more than those stupid monkeys.

 

Looks like UL is getting dumber each time I visit the web page. Classic Search doesn't show the newer benchmark and the new search style is garbage. As best I can tell just about all the new cartoon benchmarks that are higher than mine are overclocked above 3000 on core. It's hard to tell using the crappy new search tool. It's got too many limitations to be useful and shows me stuff I don't care about.

 

If they wanted to do something intelligent they would add a filter to toggle stock and overclock. If their AI isn't broken they could identify anything higher that reference GPU AMD/NVIDIA boost clocks and flag everything higher as overclocked. 

 

After the “Silicon Gods” saw me having a blast with a SP99, they were furious and had no choice but allow an SP108 to slip through I suppose 🤷‍♂️. (I really feel like if I had been anxiously awaiting what their SP rating would be, or overly worried about it, I doubt either would have been very good though) But I really didn’t give it much thought. 

 I was going to test about (3-4) 14900KS all for fun. And maybe keep the most well rounded one. 
 

EDIT: The chip runs DDR5 8600 with only 1.450vdd. It passes a quick (3 cycle) testmem5, with 131k tREFI, very surprised about this.

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

After the “Silicon Gods” saw me having a blast with a SP99, they were furious and had no choice but allow an SP108 to slip through I suppose 🤷‍♂️. (I really feel like if I had been anxiously awaiting what their SP rating would be, or overly worried about it, I doubt either would have been very good though) But I really didn’t give it much thought. 

 I was going to test about (3-4) 14900KS all for fun. And maybe keep the most well rounded one. 
 

EDIT: The chip runs DDR5 8600 with only 1.450vdd. It passes a quick (3 cycle) testmem5, with 131k tREFI, very surprised about this.

 

I tend to think you're a good guy who rolls with the punches bad or good with a smile and sees the best in the hardware you test. The Silicon Overlords reward you thusly. 🙂

 

Odds of scoring better than an SP108 randomly are low, but with your luck you never know. If you manage to land a random SP110+, you are truly blessed! 🤣

 

Did your purchase come with the free Star Wars Outlawz?

 

 

[tps3443]

31 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I tend to think you're a good guy who rolls with the punches bad or good with a smile and sees the best in the hardware you test. The Silicon Overlords reward you thusly. 🙂

 

Odds of scoring better than an SP108 randomly are low, but with your luck you never know. If you manage to land a random SP110+, you are truly blessed! 🤣

 

Did your purchase come with the free Star Wars Outlawz?

 

 

 I appreciate the kind words! I’m not testing anymore chips. I’m absolutely good with this one. Finding one better could happen, but also having a similar IMC like this one does probably won’t happen, and also no SA bug. Calling it quits on anymore KS chips lol. 
 

Im going to look in to the free game. Thanks!

[Mr. Fox]

Here is a useful tip that I discovered exploring my curiosity. I have all of the DLC keys for 3DMark and whenever I install it this saves me a few minutes of having to enter each key manually and navigate back to the options page to enter the next key 5 times. (It is a bit annoying to have to navigate back to that page after entering each key.)

 

After all of your keys have been entered for 3DMark, simply export this registry key. The next time you install 3DMark, restore the key before, during or after the benchmark installation and you're good to go.  Much more convenient.

 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\UL\3DMark

 

And, if you haven't already tried this OS mod, it is better than Atlas, (which is good,) and much better than Ghost Spectre. It includes a premodded ISO with garbage removed. I am testing W10 and W11 versions of it and not seeing the CPU performance degradation most of the OS mods produce and both have less than 60 processes running after a clean install. Includes nifty tools, WinAero Tweaker and StartIsBack preinstalled. All of the unimportant trash and bloat is gone and nothing is broken.

 

https://windowsxlite.com/

 

Special Note:
I am going to recommend that anyone that values their sanity and a functional private network needs to avoid the late 2023 and 2024 versions of both W10/W11 as the Redmond Reprobates, in their infinite idiocy, have decided that Peer Networking services on a private network is too dangerous and those services were removed from Winduhz. They also made changes to file permissions and I had to manually reassign ownership of the content on all data drives after getting rid of the latest versions of these cancer OSes. Content on shared drives was no longer accessible to other computers on my home network after the new filth was installed due to no longer having permission to access the content. I can think of better things to do with my time than fix their stupid mistakes.

 

I only know this because I wasted my time testing the latest versions of X-Lite not knowing those brain-damaged imbeciles had done that. My home network became worthless to both of those OSes and some Google searching trying to fix it revealed this was a deliberate manifestation of a lack of intelligence on the part of Micro$lop. I guess it is OK to allow these evil-hearted morons to steal your data and use it as they deem fit, force you to have a buttload of unwanted crap baked into the OS, and track how you use your computers, but it's way too dangerous for you to be permitted to access your own computers and files on a private network. I wish only bad things and a tragic future for them as a company.

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Make sure to test it with Vulkan API, it scores higher in Vulkan. 🤷‍♂️ Not sure why. 

 

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thank you. I did not even notice you could change the API. I will try that.

 

I don't know the technical reason why, other tham Micro$lop is just a chintzy organization run by stupid goons. Vulkan is almost always better. DX12 has always sucked in varying degrees of suckiness. But, when you are a lousy company run by idiots then nobody should expect anything but smelly brown stuff to ooze from your bottom.

Vulkan - GPU 645W power draw core clock 3135 @ 1.100V and +1500 memory offset / no chiller @ 82°F ambient

DX12 - 602W power draw core clock 3135 @ 1.100V and +1500 memory offset / no chiller @ 82°F ambient

[Papusan]

16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is a pretty silly benchmark. Scores are about the same with e-cores disable as with them enabled. Not impressed. I think it is crappier than Port Royal due to no ray tracing and I have always hated Port Royal. No way in hell this replaces Time Spy unless the person trying to measure overall system performance is an ignoramus. Here is a run with the GPU stock. Maybe a replacement for Speed Way but I think Speed Way is actual more taxing than this cartoon benchmark. I think what we are seeing here is hardware under-utilization. It doesn't seem like anything is working all that hard in the process. Roughly the equivalent of a typical game run at 4K, so nothing to write home about.

 

 

But.......... UL say so. Then expect the tech reviewers will follow what UL say. 

 

Now, it’s time to share a sneak peek of what’s coming next. Here are some preview screenshots for 3DMark Steel Nomad, our successor to 3DMark Time Spy. It’s been more than seven years since we launched Time Spy, and after more than 42 million submitted results, we think it’s time for a new heavy non-ray-tracing benchmark.

 

https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/introducing-3dmark-steel-nomad-the-successor-to-3dmark-time-spy

 

And I can't confirm it.... But this is quite persverse if correct.

 

Maybe Hwbot will require (mandatory) that you buy 4K monitor for this benchmard for easier moderation?😁 Or that UL send an 4K screen for free for Hwbot users😂

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/#elControls_667632_menu

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/?do=findComment&comment=667656

 

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Looks like UL is getting dumber each time I visit the web page. Classic Search doesn't show the newer benchmark and the new search style is garbage. As best I can tell just about all the new cartoon benchmarks that are higher than mine are overclocked above 3000 on core. It's hard to tell using the crappy new search tool. It's got too many limitations to be useful and shows me stuff I don't care about.

 

If they wanted to do something intelligent they would add a filter to toggle stock and overclock. If their AI isn't broken they could identify anything higher that reference GPU AMD/NVIDIA boost clocks and flag everything higher as overclocked. 

 

The modern search is totally  USELESS. Only idiots make such search style. I hated it from first day.... and thats many years ago. Whats weird.... They don't understand that their own junk is trash.

 

 

Btw. The forum is slow to respond (loading and saving). Slow in everything @Reciever Have been so the last couple of days. If not longer.

 

15 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Make sure to test it with Vulkan API, it scores higher in Vulkan. 🤷‍♂️ Not sure why. 

 

Microsoft developed DirectX API (NVIDIA has partnered closely with Microsoft support on GeForce GPUs). And as UL say.... NVIDIA DX12 vs Vulkan perf difference is most likely driver-related and could change. 

 

Microsoft prefer clogging down your PC so you need to upgrade before you have to. And worse for every new Windows version. In short... They create trash for the pc users that don't bother how they PC's works. 

 

Vulkan vs. DirectX 12: Which Should You Choose?

 

Vulkan is a low-overhead API and can require fewer system resources, such as CPU computation, memory, and bandwidth, than DirectX. This makes it a potentially better option than DirectX 12 on lower-spec computers. Or at least, computers with a less capable CPU.

 

 

[Raiderman]

41 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

But.......... UL say so. Then expect the tech reviewers will follow what UL say. 

 

Now, it’s time to share a sneak peek of what’s coming next. Here are some preview screenshots for 3DMark Steel Nomad, our successor to 3DMark Time Spy. It’s been more than seven years since we launched Time Spy, and after more than 42 million submitted results, we think it’s time for a new heavy non-ray-tracing benchmark.

 

https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/introducing-3dmark-steel-nomad-the-successor-to-3dmark-time-spy

 

And I can't confirm it.... But this is quite persverse if correct.

 

Maybe Hwbot will require (mandatory) that you buy 4K monitor for this benchmard for easier moderation?😁 Or that UL send an 4K screen for free for Hwbot users😂

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/#elControls_667632_menu

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/?do=findComment&comment=667656

 

 

The modern search is totally  USELESS. Only idiots make such search style. I hated it from first day.... and thats many years ago. Whats weird.... They don't understand that their own junk is trash.

 

 

Btw. The forum is slow to respond (loading and saving). Slow in everything @Reciever Have been so the last couple of days. If not longer.

I didn't read the article, but are they going to make it I to a system Benchmark? Like time spy or firestrike?

[Papusan]

43 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

I didn't read the article, but are they going to make it I to a system Benchmark? Like time spy or firestrike?

 

As you have seen... UL don't bother with CPU tests anymore. All their new benchmarks is only GPU tests. They have forgot that processors is the bottleneck for almost every screen resolution in games nowadays. Remember higher numbers will boost GPU sales. Maybe Microsoft gave them an advice.... Or recommandation. Not fun seeing the Cpu scores sink after every new OS update😁

 

On 5/23/2024 at 3:50 AM, Papusan said:

As you know.... Microsoft will make Bitlocker encryption enabled as default for the next new and shiny. A very bad idea. I have already posted about that in older posts. Here's the reason for this stupid move.... Microsoft says that all of this data is encrypted using BitLocker tied to the user's Windows account and is not shared with other users on the same device. Yup, bitlocker is needed to push this spy box on the users.

 

One morre reason to not force Bitlocker on every PC system. How difficult is it to add in a pop up screen feature that let you opt in after you have logged into your OS first time after OS install? It's my pc. No one should force me to use features I don't want and that let Microsoft  save the key in their servers.

 

Vanilla pc users can't deal with such. Consumers will be their next goal. 

"ShrinkLocker" ransomware uses BitLocker against you

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

But.......... UL say so. Then expect the tech reviewers will follow what UL say. 

 

Now, it’s time to share a sneak peek of what’s coming next. Here are some preview screenshots for 3DMark Steel Nomad, our successor to 3DMark Time Spy. It’s been more than seven years since we launched Time Spy, and after more than 42 million submitted results, we think it’s time for a new heavy non-ray-tracing benchmark.

 

https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/introducing-3dmark-steel-nomad-the-successor-to-3dmark-time-spy

 

And I can't confirm it.... But this is quite persverse if correct.

 

Maybe Hwbot will require (mandatory) that you buy 4K monitor for this benchmard for easier moderation?😁 Or that UL send an 4K screen for free for Hwbot users😂

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/#elControls_667632_menu

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/?do=findComment&comment=667656

 

 

The modern search is totally  USELESS. Only idiots make such search style. I hated it from first day.... and thats many years ago. Whats weird.... They don't understand that their own junk is trash.

 

 

Btw. The forum is slow to respond (loading and saving). Slow in everything @Reciever Have been so the last couple of days. If not longer.

 

 

Microsoft developed DirectX API (NVIDIA has partnered closely with Microsoft support on GeForce GPUs). And as UL say.... NVIDIA DX12 vs Vulkan perf difference is most likely driver-related and could change. 

 

Microsoft prefer clogging down your PC so you need to upgrade before you have to. And worse for every new Windows version. In short... They create trash for the pc users that don't bother how they PC's works. 

 

Vulkan vs. DirectX 12: Which Should You Choose?

 

Vulkan is a low-overhead API and can require fewer system resources, such as CPU computation, memory, and bandwidth, than DirectX. This makes it a potentially better option than DirectX 12 on lower-spec computers. Or at least, computers with a less capable CPU.

 

 

I'm using my phone at the moment so I don't have access to the "idiots everywhere" monkey animated GIF, but we have all seen that enough you can form the mental picture. When we get past all of the anger, disappointment, and disgust, what we are left with is a tragic picture of how the unprecedented stupidity of human beings is on a massive scale now. It leaves us with a very bleak forecast for the future of the human race. Maybe one of the reasons they are pushing AI so hard is the realization that being an illiterate, ignorant, stupid, corrupt, morally bankrupt, perverted, socially retarded imbecile is swiftly becoming the new normal for the human race. 

 

I am seeing similar behavior with the forum function.

3 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I didn't read the article, but are they going to make it I to a system Benchmark? Like time spy or firestrike?

Seems like it. Doesn't make sense, but... See above. Status quo. Wrong people. Wrong thought processes. Wrong behavior. Wrong focus. Wrong information. Nothing goes right when stupid is normal.

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

As you have seen... UL don't bother with CPU tests anymore. All their new benchmarks is only GPU tests. They have forgot that processors is the bottleneck for almost every screen resolution in games nowadays. Remember higher numbers will boost GPU sales. Maybe Microsoft gave them an advice.... Or recommandation. Not fun seeing the Cpu scores sink after every new OS update😁

 

 

One morre reason to not force Bitlocker on every PC system. How difficult is it to add in a pop up screen feature that let you opt in after you have logged into your OS first time after OS install? It's my pc. No one should force me to use features I don't want and that let Microsoft  save the key in their servers.

 

Vanilla pc users can't deal with such. Consumers will be their next goal. 

"ShrinkLocker" ransomware uses BitLocker against you

 

 

UL and HWBOT, to name only two among countless examples, are run by people such as those described above. Being intelligent, possessing knowledge, having experience, being resourceful, moral, decent, kind and honest will probably become illegal and saying stuff like this about it, in public or in the privacy of your home, or teaching your children to recognize it, will become a felony.

 

I use the SC delete to remove ButtLocker.

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I replied to your post @Papusan.

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/?do=findComment&comment=667663

 

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8 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

But.......... UL say so. Then expect the tech reviewers will follow what UL say. 

 

Now, it’s time to share a sneak peek of what’s coming next. Here are some preview screenshots for 3DMark Steel Nomad, our successor to 3DMark Time Spy. It’s been more than seven years since we launched Time Spy, and after more than 42 million submitted results, we think it’s time for a new heavy non-ray-tracing benchmark.

 

https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/introducing-3dmark-steel-nomad-the-successor-to-3dmark-time-spy

 

And I can't confirm it.... But this is quite persverse if correct.

 

Maybe Hwbot will require (mandatory) that you buy 4K monitor for this benchmard for easier moderation?😁 Or that UL send an 4K screen for free for Hwbot users😂

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/#elControls_667632_menu

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/234462-3dmark-steel-nomad/?do=findComment&comment=667656

 

 

The modern search is totally  USELESS. Only idiots make such search style. I hated it from first day.... and thats many years ago. Whats weird.... They don't understand that their own junk is trash.

 

 

Btw. The forum is slow to respond (loading and saving). Slow in everything @Reciever Have been so the last couple of days. If not longer.

 

 

Microsoft developed DirectX API (NVIDIA has partnered closely with Microsoft support on GeForce GPUs). And as UL say.... NVIDIA DX12 vs Vulkan perf difference is most likely driver-related and could change. 

 

Microsoft prefer clogging down your PC so you need to upgrade before you have to. And worse for every new Windows version. In short... They create trash for the pc users that don't bother how they PC's works. 

 

Vulkan vs. DirectX 12: Which Should You Choose?

 

Vulkan is a low-overhead API and can require fewer system resources, such as CPU computation, memory, and bandwidth, than DirectX. This makes it a potentially better option than DirectX 12 on lower-spec computers. Or at least, computers with a less capable CPU.

 

 

Pretty nice run @Mr. Fox I get exactly 8,020 with my 4080 Super on Vulkan API.