*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[cylix]

Some tests, still need to activate expo. Also the 9100 Pro 2Tb. The AIO fans are blowing exact on the SSD port so with the default mainboard heatsink didnt exceed 34 Celsius. The layout of a Rack 2u Case has it advantages 😁. But the sound is not one of them. The 40mm fan from the 1U PSU is like a jet engine 🤣

 

[win32asmguy]

16 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Nice! I'll be looking forward to the results to draw some comparisons especially that 5090 stomping on the 5070ti in mine. I wouldn't mind either going back up to MC to play with that Raider a bit more at $2999.99 or picking one up to test drive.

 

I think you'll be pleased with the thermals and noise especially compared to the Raider.

 

Also still working on that Pro Max 18 Plus order as I still think its closer to what I want in an 18 inch laptop. The sales rep said they had an internal SKU issue so a new quoted order would have to be placed. The RTX 5000 Blackwell mobile can draw up to 175W this year just like the 5090 mobile.

[tps3443]

On 8/25/2025 at 5:04 AM, cylix said:

 Hahaha,  the   PRO 7995wx is good even Overkill for what is needed it but it was an offer i cannot refuse😆😆.

 

Was in holiday and didnt have time for it. 

 

Still need to optimize and rearange Cables inside, got a 9100 Pro2 TB for that Pcie gen 5. Need more ram and also gpus. Ignore the gtx1050 , it's only for tests. I will need to get an riser 90 degree to fit the gpu inside. 

 

But I love the mainboard,  Asrock wrx90 ws evo,  went with it because the other wrx90 is from Asus and I despise them. More expensive as the asrock and full of problems .Reddit and forums are full of them. STUPID Asus wants over 1k euro for that mainboard and still cannot make it work. 

 

The Asrock is incredible, so many options, bulid like a tank, a lot of connectivity,  bmc remote management is superb. And it booted and did the whole diagnostic and memory training in under 3 minutes. That's good for a complicated platform like the threadripper.I love it. 

 

Use case it will be my homelab brain. Will run a gazillion VMs because Cores are plenty and  I will also start Local AI training. Still need to decide on gpus..maybe I will get some Rtx A series ore Rtx Ada for it. 

Man! You have a 7995wx? That is insane! Knowing me, if I had this CPU I’d use it for

gaming lol. 😂 Well, work and gaming. That thing is a MONSTER! I wouldn’t mind having a 7980x my self. They are so strong! Or maybe even just the 9960x threadripper would be good as well. Funny how new AMD chips sound like old Intel chip model names lol. Anyways I saw your 118K R23 score, that’s really impressive. 

On 8/25/2025 at 6:33 PM, Mr. Fox said:

It was difficult and stressful to resolve. Thank goodness there are always a few good people that care enough to help, but sometimes finding the right button to push is difficult. Sometimes you never do. I think I got lucky this time.

I called her out by name in the survey that wasn't positive other than her involvement.

Nice waterblock! Their new core series really are the best looking. Their previous models looked kinda budget oriented. My EKWB 5090 FE block has cracked to pieces in me lol. 😂 it’s not leaking so that’s good. But I’m not happy about it. I’m waiting on EK to send me a replacement. I hate that I even have to tear this thing down again. Hope you’re shunting and blocking in one swing! 
 

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

Nice waterblock! Their new core series really are the best looking. Their previous models looked kinda budget oriented. My EKWB 5090 FE block has cracked to pieces in me lol. 😂 it’s not leaking so that’s good. But I’m not happy about it. I’m waiting on EK to send me a replacement. I hate that I even have to tear this thing down again. Hope you’re shunting and blocking in one swing! 
 

I am probably not going to shunt and block in the same operation. I am not sure what dimension of resistor is needed on this GPU and I have not had time to research it between being crazy busy with projects at work, too many doctor appointments and exhausting myself getting UPS to correct their incompetence. I know I need 1 or 2 mOhm but there are different sizes and I need to confirm which resistors on the PCB need to be shunted.

 

My 4090 Core block is also super nice. Out of the EK, Bykski and Alphacool blocks this one, the 4090 Core and the Aurora block on my 3080 Turbo are my favorites. The Bykski blocks are good but have kind of a dated look to them. Bykski's new aesthetic for 50-series looks really nice but I have seen some issues with fit being reported.

 

All of my EK blocks have ended up having cracks around the screw holes and I won't buy the EK blocks anymore. I am sorry to see that has happened to yours. Those cracks on yours are much larger than mine have had. Mine were always small and not obvious at first glance. I do not know if it is something with their acrylic or if they are overtightening the screws.

[Papusan]

 

Without Gold but still pricier than the hyper expensive Astral.

 

Asus will go the full mile to Maximize profits due special design. Only $100 extra and you could buy 5090 MSRP card instead of this greedy move from Asus. $1899 or 90% above MSRP for a 5080 is the bottom barrel from Asus.

 

Want it @electrosoft? Maybe you also win in th coil whine lottery this time. Maybe worth it then?🤐 No one will see if you have a 5080 or 5090 in your pc box. They probably think you bought an 5090 for cheap. Open box as they say 😁

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rtx-5080-dhahab-core-launches-at-1899-90-above-nvidia-msrp-with-no-gold-included

[tps3443]

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am probably not going to shunt and block in the same operation. I am not sure what dimension of resistor is needed on this GPU and I have not had time to research it between being crazy busy with projects at work, too many doctor appointments and exhausting myself getting UPS to correct their incompetence. I know I need 1 or 2 mOhm but there are different sizes and I need to confirm which resistors on the PCB need to be shunted.

 

My 4090 Core block is also super nice. Out of the EK, Bykski and Alphacool blocks this one, the 4090 Core and the Aurora block on my 3080 Turbo are my favorites. The Bykski blocks are good but have kind of a dated look to them. Bykski's new aesthetic for 50-series looks really nice but I have seen some issues with fit being reported.

 

All of my EK blocks have ended up having cracks around the screw holes and I won't buy the EK blocks anymore. I am sorry to see that has happened to yours. Those cracks on yours are much larger than mine have had. Mine were always small and not obvious at first glance. I do not know if it is something with their acrylic or if they are overtightening the screws.

This is my first EKWB plexi block. I’ve used had acetal ek blocks before. Unless ek made the 3090kp block. That thing was a tank! 
 

Anyways, you need some 2512 sized resistors they are 0.25x0.12 dimensions and make sure it’s miliohm /or mohm and not just ohm. 
 

You probably want 2mohm if you are after 1200 watts, if you go 1Mohm it’ll be 1800watts. You’ll need two of them. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

This is my first EKWB plexi block. I’ve used had acetal ek blocks before. Unless ek made the 3090kp block. That thing was a tank! 
 

Anyways, you need some 2512 sized resistors they are 0.25x0.12 dimensions and make sure it’s miliohm /or mohm and not just ohm. 
 

You probably want 2mohm if you are after 1200 watts, if you go 1Mohm it’ll be 1800watts. You’ll need two of them. 

 

Thank you for the info.

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Without Gold but still pricier than the hyper expensive Astral.

 

Asus will go the full mile to Maximize profits due special design. Only $100 extra and you could buy 5090 MSRP card instead of this greedy move from Asus. $1899 or 90% above MSRP for a 5080 is the bottom barrel from Asus.

 

Want it @electrosoft? Maybe you also win in th coil whine lottery this time. Maybe worth it then?🤐 No one will see if you have a 5080 or 5090 in your pc box. They probably think you bought an 5090 for cheap. Open box as they say 😁

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rtx-5080-dhahab-core-launches-at-1899-90-above-nvidia-msrp-with-no-gold-included

 

I'll step aside so you can get it @Papusan. Maybe Asus will offer a5080 Dhahab  Crocs Edition. 🙂

 

Sheesh, $3500 for a BTF edition of a standard edition Astral 5090 = $3731 in my neck of the woods

$1900 for a 5080    is INSANE.....

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I'll step aside so you can get it @Papusan. Maybe Asus will offer a5080 Dhahab  Crocs Edition. 🙂

 

Sheesh, $3500 for a BTF edition of a standard edition Astral 5090 = $3731 in my neck of the woods

$1900 for a 5080    is INSANE.....

 

 

I think we should call BTF trash WTF instead.

 

The real value comes from the use of an Arabic word and making everyone except for a small minority of PC enthusiasts  in the world that speak Arabic, and otherwise would not give a rat's butt, have to stop and Google search just to try to figure out what the crap A$$zeus is selling this time... Only to find out that Google Translate cannot identify the word.  The same word for "gold" also means to go away, to leave, to depart. to disappear, to vanish. to decline, to dwindle. That is actually a more fitting use of the word in connection with the ASUS brand. They should include a small plastic figurine like this to set on the backplate.

[Papusan]

Forgot to mention. While me and my wife have our 1 month vacation outside Africa, my lovely baby girl with her boyfriend is 3 weeks in US right now. They started their travel in SF in California. They move around in that area and will also see Las Vegas. Also Nevada if I remember correct. They rented a BMW car for their vacation to see this side of US. The vest side. Said California or better say around SF is very expensive. Food and everything. Almost on level with home for the most expensive places.

 

Many years since I was in US. Probably over 20 years ago. So prices for living over there for summer vacation is a lot different today compared to then. And the Norwegian valuta vs US $ is much worse now. 

 

Edit. In history I see I paid around 30-35% less for USD vs now. Thats a lot of money extra for the vacation. Hence she said it was expensive for the trip 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Forgot to mention. While me and my wife have our 1 month vacation outside Africa, my lovely baby girl with her boyfriend is 3 weeks in US right now. They started their travel in SF in California. They move around in that area and will also see Las Vegas. Also Nevada if I remember correct. They rented a BMW car for their vacation to see this side of US. The vest side. Said California or better say around SF is very expensive. Food and everything. Almost on level with home for the most expensive places.

 

Many years since I was in US. Probably over 20 years ago. So prices for living over there for summer vacation is a lot different today compared to then. And the Norwegian valuta vs US $ is much worse now. 

 

Edit. In history I see I paid around 30-35% less for USD vs now. Thats a lot of money extra for the vacation. Hence she said it was expensive for the trip 

Wonderful. I hope they have a great time. 

 

California as a whole, and San Francisco in particular, are an absolute mess by every measurement. Portland and Seattle are nearly as bad now. Marginally better. Portland had been one of my favorite cities for years and now it is a truly horrible place that I go out of my way to avoid. Once beautiful and vibrant cities that have turned into dangerous, filthy cyberpunk garbage dumps. All three have something in common that makes them what they are today. 

 

Human Wasteland | San Francisco, CA     Human Feces Map

[Papusan]

 

So the big part of Nvidias huge profits come from Singapore? Why not just say China? All ways lead to Rome. I mean China. And where is elsewhere? More regions in Asia that ship to.....🤔

 

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-singapore-revenue-hits-record-high-now-second-to-the-us/

 

Customers use Singapore to centralize invoicing while our products are almost always shipped elsewhere.

 

 

$420 usd gaming Kb. Asus continue their pathway with new pricy products. 

 

I’m shocked by the price for Asus’ ultra-innovative Falcata split gaming keyboard

[Mr. Fox]

I just finished installing the 5090 Core block. It's pretty decent and it made a huge improvement in temperatures. It is not nearly as polished and does not have the same degree of aesthetic elegance as the 4090 Core. (It does not conceal the PCB and have the same high-end feel to it, but it is still really nice.) The only thing Alphacool did that I would consider stupid is put the warranty void seal on the front, directly in plain view instead on on the motherboard side. After I have used it long enough to know there is no problem with it I am peeling that off... idiots. I wish the block assembly was 1.5-2.0 inches longer. It is just barely long enough to reach the GPU support bracket attached to the motherboard. (It is about a half inch narrower than the motherboard.) But, I bet SFF jockeys are probably glad it's not longer.

 

I am going to have to order shunt resistors. I checked my stash and mine are more than 2 mOhm. Tearing down the Solid GPU I have to say that I am highly impressed. The GPU and the air cooler build quality are every bit as excellent and high precision quality as the 4090 Suprim. I still think it was a poor value, but I am glad that I bought this particular model and not one of the other "inexpensive" options. Zotac did an amazing job on it. The "Solid" name is very fitting.

 

You can see that stupid decal to the left of the fitting manifold, straddling the cold plate and acrylic.

Some bubbles need still to find their way out.

[electrosoft]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I just finished installing the 5090 Core block. It's pretty decent and it made a huge improvement in temperatures. It is not nearly as polished and does not have the same degree of aesthetic elegance as the 4090 Core. (It does not conceal the PCB and have the same high-end feel to it, but it is still really nice.) The only thing Alphacool did that I would consider stupid is put the warranty void seal on the front, directly in plain view instead on on the motherboard side. After I have used it long enough to know there is no problem with it I am peeling that off... idiots. I wish the block assembly was 1.5-2.0 inches longer. It is just barely long enough to reach the GPU support bracket attached to the motherboard. (It is about a half inch narrower than the motherboard.) But, I bet SFF jockeys are probably glad it's not longer.

 

I am going to have to order shunt resistors. I checked my stash and mine are more than 2 mOhm. Tearing down the Solid GPU I have to say that I am highly impressed. The GPU and the air cooler build quality are every bit as excellent and high precision quality as the 4090 Suprim. I still think it was a poor value, but I am glad that I bought this particular model and not one of the other "inexpensive" options. Zotac did an amazing job on it. The "Solid" name is very fitting.

 

You can see that stupid decal to the left of the fitting manifold, straddling the cold plate and acrylic.

Some bubbles need still to find their way out.

 

Looking good! 

 

I'll be interested in your air cooler vs blocked results before the shunt mod obliterates both of them.

 

Any pics of the bare PCB before block mounting?

 

 

[win32asmguy]

@electrosoft

 

Got the little Claw 8 setup with WoW on the stock install, performance is pretty impressive so far! It holds around 108fps at your testing spot near the Tazavesh entrance. That is unplugged with 20W/19W PL1/PL2. ConsolePort (the addon to streamline using the game with a controller) needs a bit of setup so I just hooked up a keyboard/mouse to test. Also have Amazon delivering a screen protector and case for it today and will swap to a 2TB WD SN770m along with a clean install of W11.

 

For fun I ran AIDA64 on it and memory latency was 96ns, better than most Arrow Lake HX I have seen! So maybe the LPDDR5X is doing ok here. In this case the device has 32GB soldered which is sufficient and the form factor does not have space for SODIMM or CAMM.

 

Eluktronics has also posted their 9955HX3D laptops for sale, but only in pre-built configurations due to memory compatibility issues:

 

https://www.eluktronics.com/HYDROC-16-9955HX3D-MLED-5090-32G-2T

 

Hopefully once Premamod is available they can do a proper Intel vs. AMD comparison with both systems tuned. My guess is the HX3D will do better than Intel in performance but have worse battery life. I wonder if it would consistently have better performance than the 275HX during world bosses / raids / busy Dornogal. From your positive testing with the 9800X3D it seems like it very well could. I even get a lot of stuttering upon initial login while switching between alts for profession activities and it would be nice if it handled that better as well.

[Mr. Fox]

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Looking good! 

 

I'll be interested in your air cooler vs blocked results before the shunt mod obliterates both of them.

 

Any pics of the bare PCB before block mounting?

Well, my ""official" benchmarks were with a portable AC ramming 34°F (1°C) air directly into the GPU so the water cooler is not going to get it that cold due to the ambient temperatures. I can compare against the benchmarks I ran without the AC unit. I think I have a few of those. Boost clocks are absolutely staying higher on the waterblock than they were on normal air cooling. The GPU  and memory are about 20°C cooler under load and memory is essentially equalized with GPU core temps now. The memory was generally 10-15°C warmer than the core. I hate NVIDIA's "normal operating temperature" GPU boost limits as much today as I did when they introduced that crappiness into the mix. Things were better when clocks ran full blast until you reached TJMax. Now that stupid cancer has spread to CPUs.

 

I did not take pictures and figured I would do that when I do the shunt mod. The resistors are very close to the 12VHPWR connector, so I am going to have to be very careful not to get that too hot. I had multiple doctor appointments yesterday so I was trying to hurry to get it done. I am assuming I need to shunt the two right next to the power connector and no others.

 

I am considering the idea of doing a shunt mod and installing a ElmorLabs EVC2SE for voltage control. Part of me wants to do it real bad and part of me doesn't care anymore. I haven't decided yet. I am less motivated to do some of these things than I used to be. There are days that I question my intelligence for even buying the 5090. It was definitely not something I needed and my passion for this is starting to dwindle. But, when I am playing with it I am glad I did. 

[Mr. Fox]

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I'll be interested in your air cooler vs blocked results before the shunt mod obliterates both of them.

Here was this run on normal air (no AC)

Same exact OC profile after installing the waterblock. Higher boost, higher score, lower temps. 

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

@electrosoft

 

Got the little Claw 8 setup with WoW on the stock install, performance is pretty impressive so far! It holds around 108fps at your testing spot near the Tazavesh entrance. That is unplugged with 20W/19W PL1/PL2. ConsolePort (the addon to streamline using the game with a controller) needs a bit of setup so I just hooked up a keyboard/mouse to test. Also have Amazon delivering a screen protector and case for it today and will swap to a 2TB WD SN770m along with a clean install of W11.

 

For fun I ran AIDA64 on it and memory latency was 96ns, better than most Arrow Lake HX I have seen! So maybe the LPDDR5X is doing ok here. In this case the device has 32GB soldered which is sufficient and the form factor does not have space for SODIMM or CAMM.

 

Eluktronics has also posted their 9955HX3D laptops for sale, but only in pre-built configurations due to memory compatibility issues:

 

https://www.eluktronics.com/HYDROC-16-9955HX3D-MLED-5090-32G-2T

 

Hopefully once Premamod is available they can do a proper Intel vs. AMD comparison with both systems tuned. My guess is the HX3D will do better than Intel in performance but have worse battery life. I wonder if it would consistently have better performance than the 275HX during world bosses / raids / busy Dornogal. From your positive testing with the 9800X3D it seems like it very well could. I even get a lot of stuttering upon initial login while switching between alts for profession activities and it would be nice if it handled that better as well.

 

Whoa! I see BB has them for $1k. Man, it does look sweet. Let me know if you're able to fully sort out the console controls to actually play because if not, then it still would make more sense to get a lower powered, but capable, laptop and use that while driving in the car. If console controls can actually translate to a real, valid gaming experience just even dailies, farming, WQ, etc... that is definitely something I would think of picking up.

 

Crazy the latency is better than both my 275hx laptops lol.

 

Man I wish they offered that in an 18" model. Right now, I plan on riding this free Alienware 18 for awhile. I might give the Raider 18 9955HX3D a try down the road once prices become less crazy or even the Raider 285hx + 5090 since it routinely drops to $2999.99. Wouldn't mind snagging an open box at MC then use their credit on top of it for another 5% off.

 

The fan noise difference testing in store really caught me off guard and I'm not sure if MSI switched to slightly different fans or the 285HX is just boosting more sanely than AMD models tend to do in laptops which makes them harder to control even with extra bios functionality.

 

Are you experiencing stuttering on your Hydroc G2 playing WoW? I really haven't had a chance to "play" on my Alienware 275hx + 5070ti to see if it stutters or has issues. I know that Raider 18 7945HX3D didn't stutter during raids or gaming on the newest BIOS.

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, my ""official" benchmarks were with a portable AC ramming 34°F (1°C) air directly into the GPU so the water cooler is not going to get it that cold due to the ambient temperatures. I can compared against the benchmarks I ran without the AC unit. I think I have a few of those. Boost clocks are absolutely staying higher on the waterblock than they were on normal air cooling. The GPU  and memory are about 20°C cooler under load, the memory about 8-10°C and essentially equalized with GPU core temps now. The memory was generally 10-15°C warmer than the core. I hate NVIDIA's "normal operating temperature" GPU boost limits as much today as I did when they introduced that crappiness into the mix. Things were better when clocks ran full blast until you reached TJMax. Now that stupid cancer has spread to CPUs.

 

I did not take pictures and figured I would do that when I do the shunt mod. The resistors are very close to the 12VHPWR connector, so I am going to have to be very careful not to get that too hot. I had multiple doctor appointments yesterday so I was trying to hurry to get it done. I am assuming I need to shunt the two right next to the power connector and no others.

 

I am considering the idea of doing a shunt mod and installing a ElmorLabs EVC2SE for voltage control. Part of me wants to do it real bad and part of me doesn't care anymore. I haven't decided yet. I am less motivated to do some of these things than I used to be. There are days that I question my intelligence for even buying the 5090. It was definitely not something I needed and my passion for this is starting to dwindle. But, when I am playing with it I am glad I did. 

 

 

Ah, ok. I didn't know if you collected some data pre "AC to the face" of your 5090. Maybe ambient vs AC direct intake vs blocked and cooled ambient.

 

I do think as node shrinks are insanely small and thermals continue to climb and the red line recedes, what is happening is the safety margins are getting tighter and tighter to the detriment of those of us who like to Overclock. Exploding AMD chips and 13th/14th gen issues aren't helping either to let enthusiasts....enthuse properly. Throw in natural boost algorithms and the difference between natural boosting vs hand tuned OCs gets closer and closer every generation.

 

Once you shunt, you will quickly know if your voltage max is what it is now or if there is a little bit of extra in the tank that will open up once you give it that extra juice. I've long said that voltage matters even though only a few have argued against it and as time is passing, we are finding over and over the higher your voltage max the better your card will perform on average which is only logical in tandem with other factors of course.

 

 

There is a reason most of the leader board members are using Elmore's to help pump up their voltage. Like I said weeks ago on the OC forums, "voltage matters."

 

So an Elmore's might not be a bad idea if you're truly looking to push your card, but then again a chiller would also go hand in hand too. 🤣

 

But again, we won't know where it lands till after the shunt. 

 

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Here was this run on normal air (no AC)

Same exact OC profile after installing the waterblock. Higher boost, higher score, lower temps. 

 

Yet again, cooling is king.... it will definitely be interesting to see the shunt results exact same settings....

 

What were the results with AC blasting in? Have you entertained the thought of maybe moving back to a chiller?

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

But again, we won't know where it lands till after the shunt. 

Yet again, cooling is king.... it will definitely be interesting to see the shunt results exact same settings....

 

What were the results with AC blasting in? Have you entertained the thought of maybe moving back to a chiller?

I still have the chiller. I can't remember the last time I turned it on. I think it was last year. I probably need to flush out the tank in it. One of the reasons I lost interest in it is that it is a total waste on a Ryzen CPU. Getting colder doesn't really give you any overclocking headroom unless you go to extreme cold and use BCLK to increase the core ratio beyond AMD's sissy-boy fused limit crap.

 

I can easily connect the chiller directly to the GPU and bypass the GPU on the loop inside. I have used quick-disconnect fittings to facilitate doing that, just haven't mustered the desire to screw with it. Talking about it makes me want to, but if I don't run with it when the desire hits me an hour later I will decide it is not worth the hassle, LOL. Now that I moved away from an open bench and built both systems with internal cooling loops it is less convenient than it used to be and doing things that are inconvenient has become less attractive to me over the past couple of years. You probably noticed the RAM fan attached to the top radiator. I have the RAM water cooling parts, but haven't found enough desire to screw with converting it. I think the amount of effort required for a comparatively small reward with modern parts has become a major demotivating/discouraging factor for me. 

 

With the portable AC forcing freezing air into the air cooled GPU... https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7957336

[win32asmguy]

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Whoa! I see BB has them for $1k. Man, it does look sweet. Let me know if you're able to fully sort out the console controls to actually play because if not, then it still would make more sense to get a lower powered, but capable, laptop and use that while driving in the car. If console controls can actually translate to a real, valid gaming experience just even dailies, farming, WQ, etc... that is definitely something I would think of picking up.

 

Crazy the latency is better than both my 275hx laptops lol.

 

Man I wish they offered that in an 18" model. Right now, I plan on riding this free Alienware 18 for awhile. I might give the Raider 18 9955HX3D a try down the road once prices become less crazy or even the Raider 285hx + 5090 since it routinely drops to $2999.99. Wouldn't mind snagging an open box at MC then use their credit on top of it for another 5% off.

 

The fan noise difference testing in store really caught me off guard and I'm not sure if MSI switched to slightly different fans or the 285HX is just boosting more sanely than AMD models tend to do in laptops which makes them harder to control even with extra bios functionality.

 

Are you experiencing stuttering on your Hydroc G2 playing WoW? I really haven't had a chance to "play" on my Alienware 275hx + 5070ti to see if it stutters or has issues. I know that Raider 18 7945HX3D didn't stutter during raids or gaming on the newest BIOS.

 

Yeah mine came from Best Buy for $1k before a few gift cards and rewards I applied to it. My first goal will be to get it setup to Mine and Herb which should only need interact with target, jump, descend, and single button assistant DPS, form stance switch. Hopefully the keybinds will coexist with keyboard + mouse usage even if I have to dedicate a bar to the controller buttons.

 

For questing its going to be more work as the addon has some kind of utility bar that I think is suppose to auto-bind quest items as needed. I actually used to have a similar addon when I was multiboxing that would let me trigger the same quest item on an entire team at the same time via a keybind slot.

 

 

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The Intel Hydroc G2 does stutter when switching characters, during heavy encounters or just flying around Dornogal. I think its either addons, using Optimus mode or maxed out settings. I also have to use XTU to apply the NGU overclock after Windows boots which is not automated so I often forget to do so. Maybe an X3D could offer better performance here and this generation has higher PPT along with better thermals due to the cache location.

[Mr. Fox]

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

What were the results with AC blasting in? Have you entertained the thought of maybe moving back to a chiller?

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I can easily connect the chiller directly to the GPU and bypass the GPU on the loop inside. I have used quick-disconnect fittings to facilitate doing that, just haven't mustered the desire to screw with it. Talking about it makes me want to, but if I don't run with it when the desire hits me an hour later I will decide it is not worth the hassle, LOL.

I figured I had better do it while I had the wild hare up my butt or I'd end up deciding it wasn't worth the effort. 🤣 I wheeled everything into the living room and benched from the comfort of my recliner.

 

Definitely power-limited. There is no point in repeating these benchmarks without a shunt mod because it's maxed out on the power budget now. But the clocks are holding a lot higher with the chilled water. These were pulling less than 1.000V under load. +300 core offset. I will have to order the resistors Brother @tps3443 mentioned since all of my spares are too high resistance. Travis do you have a link where you bought yours? Digi-Key or Mouser?

Speedway - https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2656446 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5888556
 Steel Nomad (DX12) - https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8377250 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5888557

Steel Nomad (Vulkan) - https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8377374 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_vulkan/submissions/5888558?

Port Royal - https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3623727 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5888560?

Solar Bay - https://www.3dmark.com/sb/367617 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5888561?

Solar Bay Extreme - http://www.3dmark.com/sb/367638 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay_extreme/submissions/5888562

Time Spy - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58438069 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5888565

Time Spy Extreme - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58438160 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/5888567

[Papusan]

On 8/24/2025 at 8:29 PM, electrosoft said:

in32asmguy that Intel Ultra itch is growing lol...

 

This what you said while Intel almost say Core Ultra (Arrow Lake) was a failure as desktop chips 😎 You and Intel's CFO can't both have correct brother, LOL

 

One of you has to be wrong😂

 

As you know, we kind of fumbled the football on the desktop side, particularly high performance desktop side. So we’re as you kind of look at share on a dollar basis versus a unit basis, we don’t perform as well and it’s mostly because of this high end desktop business that we didn’t have a good offering this year.

 

Intel Confirms Arrow Lake Weakness, Bets on Nova Lake to Compete With AMD Zen 6

 

At the Deutsche Bank Technology Conference in 2025, Intel’s CFO David Zinsner explained that the company sees Arrow Lake as a step that didn’t quite hit the performance target for high-end desktops.

[Papusan]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I figured I had better do it while I had the wild hare up my butt or I'd end up deciding it wasn't worth the effort. 🤣 I wheeled everything into the living room and benched from the comfort of my recliner.

 

Definitely power-limited. There is no point in repeating these benchmarks without a shunt mod because it's maxed out on the power budget now. But the clocks are holding a lot higher with the chilled water. These were pulling less than 1.000V under load. +300 core offset. I will have to order the resistors Brother @tps3443 mentioned since all of my spares are too high resistance. Travis do you have a link where you bought yours? Digi-Key or Mouser?

Speedway - https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2656446 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5888556
 Steel Nomad (DX12) - https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8377250 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5888557

Steel Nomad (Vulkan) - https://www.3dmark.com/sn/8377374 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_vulkan/submissions/5888558?

Port Royal - https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3623727 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5888560?

Solar Bay - https://www.3dmark.com/sb/367617 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5888561?

Solar Bay Extreme - http://www.3dmark.com/sb/367638 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay_extreme/submissions/5888562

Time Spy - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58438069 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5888565

Time Spy Extreme - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/58438160 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/5888567

 

Looking good bro @Mr. Fox 🙂

[Mr. Fox]

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5888802

[Mr. Fox]

OK I think I am done now

 

Fire Strike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747306 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5888849
 
Fire Strike Extreme - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747317 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike_extreme/submissions/5888851

Fire Strike Ultra - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747324 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike_ultra/submissions/5888853