Mr. Fox Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM 3 minutes ago, Papusan said: Me.... Love all black. Everyday the same. Even my house is is painted in black🙂 1 2 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted Saturday at 07:59 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:59 PM 54 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: holy crap one of the most iconic songs of all time, blasting it through my headphones right now yessssss 😄 ladies are asleep, finally some alone time for daddy to continue tinkering 😄 2 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted Saturday at 09:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:00 PM On 10/7/2025 at 11:07 PM, Mr. Fox said: Did you receive it yet? Share some photos. Even if the GPU was DOA it would have been worth grabbing it for the Morpheus 2. I did! Just finished cleaning it up. It's about 5 slots now, these fans are loud but they push a lot of air when pushing 100%. Either way it's ready for benching this winter. Also cleaned up 2x 650ti Boost 2GB cards 2 1 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Red Devil 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | Intel X710 DAC @ 10Gbps | 550w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT UNRAID | 10850K @ 4.8Ghz | 16GB DDR4 4000Mhz | P1000 | 9300i-16P | Intel X520 DAC @ 20Gbps | 48TB HDD's | EVGA 1300w | Unraid GameStream | E5-2667v3 16c/32t | 64GB DDR4 2133Mhz | RTX 3090Ti | 3x 512GB | 925w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT HomeLab (x2) | E5-2650v4 24c/48t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2TB NVME / 2x1TB NVME / 2x2TB HDD | Proxmox Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 09:22 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 09:22 AM 12 hours ago, Reciever said: I did! Just finished cleaning it up. It's about 5 slots now, these fans are loud but they push a lot of air when pushing 100%. Either way it's ready for benching this winter. Also cleaned up 2x 650ti Boost 2GB cards Awesome. Looks great. Thank you. 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago aight boiiiiz, new setup is done, pretty happy with how it turned out 🙂 2 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 51 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: aight boiiiiz, new setup is done, pretty happy with how it turned out 🙂 Dang. One set of dark sunglasses ain't enough looking on all that RGB😁 3 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Papusan said: Dang. One set of dark sunglasses ain't enough looking on all that RGB😁 i KNEW you would love it 😄 3 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Just now, jaybee83 said: i KNEW you would love it 😄 Sure😀 3 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago So, I ordered another X870E Apex and thought I would give it a second chance. BAD idea. Horrible product and worse than the first one. I submitted my RMA this morning. Fought it for 3 days. It's a piece of garbage just like the first one that I returned. The AORUS Master and Strix both overclock better than the Apex. It cannot even run 8000 C34 stable and for some reason using a Gen 5 NVMe in the top slot causes constant corruption of Windows that cannot be repaired (even using JEDEC/SPD defaults). I tried two of them and both have issues in the Apex, but not in the Master or Strix. Super disappointing that two of what is allegedly the best overclocking AM5 motherboards are rubbish and inferior to less expensive options. I spend about 36 hours moving parts back and forth between motherboards and all work flawllessly except when installed in the Apex, then everything turns to crap. I considered the idea of exchanging it, but it's not worth it. Lost two days of my life on this piece of dung and considering it is the second turd Apex... how 'bout no. Two known good CPUs, two known good memory kits and two known good Gen 5 NVMe malfunction when installed in the Apex. I'm a two-time Apex silicon lottery winner. Ain't nobody got time fo dat. 3 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago On 10/2/2025 at 2:30 PM, Mr. Fox said: Yes, that is Red Fox. He is a smart boy, but has a sassy mouth. @electrosoft, @Raiderman and @jaybee83 there is a new version of ZenTimings available that shows all of the sensors for voltage now. I will test to confirm that is true on the Strix as well, but it shows all sensors on the Master. It also shows tPHYRDL is matched whereas the last beta showed them mismatched (even though it was not). Also shows the Nitro settings in the lower right corner. btw where did u find this version? on the official download page 1.35 is still the newest. thanks for providiing a link! gonna continue my RAM tuning and install this while im at it 🙂 2 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, jaybee83 said: btw where did u find this version? on the official download page 1.35 is still the newest. thanks for providiing a link! gonna continue my RAM tuning and install this while im at it 🙂 From the beta thread in their Discord. https://discord.com/channels/750797327874129930/752301932558942302 Alternatively https://www.overclock.net/posts/29518003/ 1 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: So, I ordered another X870E Apex and thought I would give it a second chance. BAD idea. Horrible product and worse than the first one. I submitted my RMA this morning. Fought it for 3 days. It's a piece of garbage just like the first one that I returned. The AORUS Master and Strix both overclock better than the Apex. It cannot even run 8000 C34 stable and for some reason using a Gen 5 NVMe in the top slot causes constant corruption of Windows that cannot be repaired (even using JEDEC/SPD defaults). I tried two of them and both have issues in the Apex, but not in the Master or Strix. Super disappointing that two of what is allegedly the best overclocking AM5 motherboards are rubbish and inferior to less expensive options. I spend about 36 hours moving parts back and forth between motherboards and all work flawllessly except when installed in the Apex, then everything turns to crap. I considered the idea of exchanging it, but it's not worth it. Lost two days of my life on this piece of dung and considering it is the second turd Apex... how 'bout no. Two known good CPUs, two known good memory kits and two known good Gen 5 NVMe malfunction when installed in the Apex. I'm a two-time Apex silicon lottery winner. Ain't nobody got time fo dat. Hmm. I may have identified the cause of the problem with this board. I need to investigate further to confirm the issue and if I can I will come back and share. It may be the same issue that caused me to return the first Apex. More to follow if what I think turns out to be true. What I "think" might be the issue is using both the X4 and X1 slots simultaneously is overloading something or goofing up the PCIe bifurcation. This is with the X1 PCIe slot empty. With it populated I get TM5 error #6 and YC 1b is like 19+ seconds. 1 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 20 hours ago, jaybee83 said: aight boiiiiz, new setup is done, pretty happy with how it turned out 🙂 As soon as I saw this, I thought, "Oh, he's purposely trying to trigger @Papusan and @Mr. Fox!" 🤣 Looks good! I, too, loop my connector(s) over the top of my GPUs when able so you can see the whole card and it takes a bit of the downward pull off the connector. I've done this since Ampere as an additional reason on top of aesthetics. 4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: So, I ordered another X870E Apex and thought I would give it a second chance. BAD idea. Horrible product and worse than the first one. I submitted my RMA this morning. Fought it for 3 days. It's a piece of garbage just like the first one that I returned. The AORUS Master and Strix both overclock better than the Apex. It cannot even run 8000 C34 stable and for some reason using a Gen 5 NVMe in the top slot causes constant corruption of Windows that cannot be repaired (even using JEDEC/SPD defaults). I tried two of them and both have issues in the Apex, but not in the Master or Strix. Super disappointing that two of what is allegedly the best overclocking AM5 motherboards are rubbish and inferior to less expensive options. I spend about 36 hours moving parts back and forth between motherboards and all work flawllessly except when installed in the Apex, then everything turns to crap. I considered the idea of exchanging it, but it's not worth it. Lost two days of my life on this piece of dung and considering it is the second turd Apex... how 'bout no. Two known good CPUs, two known good memory kits and two known good Gen 5 NVMe malfunction when installed in the Apex. I'm a two-time Apex silicon lottery winner. Ain't nobody got time fo dat. 56 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Hmm. I may have identified the cause of the problem with this board. I need to investigate further to confirm the issue and if I can I will come back and share. It may be the same issue that caused me to return the first Apex. More to follow if what I think turns out to be true. What I "think" might be the issue is using both the X4 and X1 slots simultaneously is overloading something or goofing up the PCIe bifurcation. This is with the X1 PCIe slot empty. With it populated I get TM5 error #6 and YC 1b is like 19+ seconds. Hmmmm, I wish you had the other board too to see if you could reproduce this on two of them. Might need to talk to other X870e owners to try to recreate a similar test scenario to see if they can trigger a memory fail. 1 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: AHmmmm, I wish you had the other board too to see if you could reproduce this on two of them. Might need to talk to other X870e owners to try to recreate a similar test scenario to see if they can trigger a memory fail. Having a Gen 5 NVMe, an X4 PCIe card with four NVMe and an X1 card with two NVMe may have just exhausted its resources. BUT, it does not have that effect on the AORUS Master or Strix. I had 10 NVMe SSDs in the Master (two quad NVMe X4 cards and two in the mobo) without any issue. I have 7 in the Strix (quad NVMe and three in the mobo). With a Gen 4 NVMe in the top M.2 (Gen 5) slot and nothing in the X1 slot it seems like everything is functioning correctly, but I want to put it through all the paces. I had to reinstall Windows several times on the Gen 5 NVMe SSD. It would get corrupted within a couple of hours to the point of BSOD and unrepairable. I am running that same NVMe in the Strix and it is working flawlessly. I have 7 NVMe installed (quad NVMe x4 card, Gen 4 in Gen 5 slot and two Gen 4 in the DIMM.2 and no more memory errors or OS corruption (so far). 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: As soon as I saw this, I thought, "Oh, he's purposely trying to trigger @Papusan and @Mr. Fox!" 🤣 LOL. I am OK with other people liking rainbow puke. Just not on my stuff. Give me white light all day. I don't even like having a solid static color that much. Just white. But, that's me. To each their own. Rainbow puke on the RAM and mobo lighting sucks, but doesn't suck as bad as the software needed to control it. I'd rather have the rainbow puke than the cancer software bloat running in the background. Edit: Oh, another thing seems "fixed" now. Not sure if it was the Gen 5 SSD or the X1 slot being used, but the OS on the Apex no longer temporarily freezes when launch ZenTimings. Before it would lock up for about 5 seconds when I opened ZenTimings. Edited 1 hour ago by Mr. Fox added info 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now