electrosoft Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM 1 hour ago, Papusan said: And many on OC.net spend more money in more expensive quality products than the normy pc users. All I'm saying is the math isn't mathing....and luck is not at play in engineering fault tolerance testing. Plus with the user reports all we have is their subjective takes ("I swear I checked everything right before going to church and feeding the homeless!") usually rife with oversights and human error we do not know or see. All we see is the end product which is a burned cable and/or fused connection. Then people run with it..... If the connector was that flawed, those who routinely push their cards should suffer a much noticeable higher rate of failure yet amongst the enthusiasts on the forums the rate of failure is minuscule if even that. I've long thought this since the 4000 series and it continues to prove itself out over and over. I frequent the various enthusiast forums, enthusiast FB tech message groups, tech focused Discord along with clans and guilds chock full of 4090 and 5090 owners gaming 8-12hrs/day and more waiting for this influx of burned connectors amongst the various types used considering how hard the hardware is being pushed even on non shunted cards running max OC's constantly hitting 600-650w....yet......much ado about nothing. I ran my 4090 OC'd from start to finish. I am doing the same with my 5090 too. One thing I do for my cards since Ampere is I run them max Underclocked when not gaming/benching then Max OC when gaming. Look, it's a cheap part to replace for the cable. I can swap in numerous types or models if I want. That isn't the issue. Zero loyalty to a damn connector cable 🤣 The one and only time I had issues was with the CM adapter cable I was going to use and it kept black screening and crashing and it turned out to be severely problematic and was a legitimate issue even outside of human error or potential inherent problems. The replacement one they sent me is still sitting sealed in its pouch on my shelf. I am really curious about the Ampinel and am almost 100% I'll be picking one up just out of curiosity. And you're correct, many on OC.net DO spend more money on quality products than normies. That just adds even more weight to my argument. With all that being said, I still wish they had stuck with 8-pin PCIe connectors but I guess with the way power consumption is going, we would end up with cards with 4-5 of them if not more at some point on certain models. Imagine a HOF with 8 8-pin connectors..... 🤣 2 2 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted yesterday at 05:33 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:33 AM Picked up a MSi Gaming GTX 970 to match the one I have and EVGA GTX 760 SLI (Plus bridge) Just loading up more and more work for my Winter break this year. Cleaned up the EVGA 980Ti, Sapphire R9 390X, and 2x Galaxy GTX 580's (Accelero Xtreme) Still have Sapphire R9 280X to clean up and GTX 9800 to assemble. Have an offer sent for a pair of GTX 460's as well. Kind of limiting myself to 2-way SLI/XFire or Dual-GPU single PCB scenarios. It would be fun to do Quad-SLI GTX 9800 but I wouldnt have the space for it all. 2 1 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Red Devil 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | Intel X710 DAC @ 10Gbps | 550w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT UNRAID | 10850K @ 4.8Ghz | 16GB DDR4 4000Mhz | P1000 | 9300i-16P | Intel X520 DAC @ 20Gbps | 48TB HDD's | EVGA 1300w | Unraid GameStream | E5-2667v3 16c/32t | 64GB DDR4 2133Mhz | RTX 3090Ti | 3x 512GB | 925w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT HomeLab (x2) | E5-2650v4 24c/48t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2TB NVME / 2x1TB NVME / 2x2TB HDD | Proxmox Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM 14 hours ago, electrosoft said: With all that being said, I still wish they had stuck with 8-pin PCIe connectors but I guess with the way power consumption is going, we would end up with cards with 4-5 of them if not more at some point on certain models. Imagine a HOF with 8 8-pin connectors..... 🤣 More stupidity on its way. Both Corsair and beQuiet start remove 8-pin PCIe connectors to the bare minimum. Even for the stronger 1500W models. Now with only 2x 8-pin PCIe for powering AMD and Intel GPUs (but only one available for the GPU if your modern MB need one of them). Nice. We may see AMD and Intel going the Nvidia route once next gen cards is out. Corsair introduces HXi-SHIFT power supplies Corsair has introduced another new generation of power supplies with the HXi SHIFT series. be quiet! Dark Power 14 power suppliesSemi-passive cooling also moves into the high-end With improved cooling and a standstill fan for uncompromising quietness, be quiet! wants to return to its roots. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 07:38 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 07:38 PM 4 hours ago, Papusan said: More stupidity on its way. Both Corsair and beQuiet start remove 8-pin PCIe connectors to the bare minimum. Even for the stronger 1500W models. Now with only 2x 8-pin PCIe for powering AMD and Intel GPUs (but only one available for the GPU if your modern MB need one of them). Nice. We may see AMD and Intel going the Nvidia route once next gen cards is out. Corsair introduces HXi-SHIFT power supplies Corsair has introduced another new generation of power supplies with the HXi SHIFT series. be quiet! Dark Power 14 power suppliesSemi-passive cooling also moves into the high-end With improved cooling and a standstill fan for uncompromising quietness, be quiet! wants to return to its roots. So dumb. It seems like so many things that are new are garbage. And, the minds of the idiots driving the new ideas are broken. Stupid people producing garbage products for stupid people. The new normal. Maybe we will see prices go down for the "old" PSUs that were made the right way. My Thermaltake GF3 1650W PSU has two 12VHPWR connections (and cables) and like six 8-pin PCIe connections (and cables), plus the two EPS connections (and cables). It is hard to find them now because silly people don't like it because it has a powerful fan that they can hear running under heavy stress and it runs for a few seconds after you turn off the computer in order to cool off the internals. They would prefer that the PSU cook itself in silence. 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 23 hours ago Author Share Posted 23 hours ago So, I am continuing to have odd behavior with the Apex that is unexplainable. Can run stable for many hours and then suddenly will not boot Windows any more without a BSOD or stops booting before the BIOS screen and stays stuck on random LED Q-codes. It ran perfectly all day long yesterday and I turned it off to go to bed. When I tried to turn it on this morning it was stopping during POST with a black screen. Resetting CMOS and then applying the saved BIOS profile, it began working normally again. So, there is something wrong with it. Changing CPU, RAM and all attached storage does not seem to matter. I reopened the RMA for a refund and purchased a new replacement. It will be delivered Friday and I will return the original and wait for the refund. And Brother @Hiew is the new owner of the amazing AORUS Master. It is being delivered to him today. 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: So, I am continuing to have odd behavior with the Apex that is unexplainable. Can run stable for many hours and then suddenly will not boot Windows any more without a BSOD or stops booting before the BIOS screen and stays stuck on random LED Q-codes. It ran perfectly all day long yesterday and I turned it off to go to bed. When I tried to turn it on this morning it was stopping during POST with a black screen. Resetting CMOS and then applying the saved BIOS profile, it began working normally again. So, there is something wrong with it. Changing CPU, RAM and all attached storage does not seem to matter. I reopened the RMA for a refund and purchased a new replacement. It will be delivered Friday and I will return the original and wait for the refund. And Brother @Hiew is the new owner of the amazing AORUS Master. It is being delivered to him today. He was like a kid window shopping at a candy store when we told him the details. I haven't spoken with him this week so I'll ping him and see if there were any complications. The worst thing right now is trying to refrain from building the pc until this weekend lol 2 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Red Devil 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | Intel X710 DAC @ 10Gbps | 550w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT UNRAID | 10850K @ 4.8Ghz | 16GB DDR4 4000Mhz | P1000 | 9300i-16P | Intel X520 DAC @ 20Gbps | 48TB HDD's | EVGA 1300w | Unraid GameStream | E5-2667v3 16c/32t | 64GB DDR4 2133Mhz | RTX 3090Ti | 3x 512GB | 925w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT HomeLab (x2) | E5-2650v4 24c/48t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2TB NVME / 2x1TB NVME / 2x2TB HDD | Proxmox Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Reciever said: He was like a kid window shopping at a candy store when we told him the details. I haven't spoken with him this week so I'll ping him and see if there were any complications. The worst thing right now is trying to refrain from building the pc until this weekend lol I probably would not even try to refrain. Sleep is optional when there are new parts to be installed. 🤣 UPS tried to deliver and he was not home so he will be picking it up from a UPS location probably later today. 3 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I probably would not even try to refrain. Sleep is optional when there are new parts to be installed. 🤣 UPS tried to deliver and he was not home so he will be picking it up from a UPS location probably later today. I do often tell people that they can sleep when their dead! But that doesn't mean much where I proudly proclaim sleep as my favorite activity. Looks like seller moved to a different buyer for the 460 SLI set, oh well 3 AM4-DD | 5800X3D @ 4.45Ghz | Red Devil 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | 2TB NVME | Intel X710 DAC @ 10Gbps | 550w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT UNRAID | 10850K @ 4.8Ghz | 16GB DDR4 4000Mhz | P1000 | 9300i-16P | Intel X520 DAC @ 20Gbps | 48TB HDD's | EVGA 1300w | Unraid GameStream | E5-2667v3 16c/32t | 64GB DDR4 2133Mhz | RTX 3090Ti | 3x 512GB | 925w + 900w (GPU) | Win11 IoT HomeLab (x2) | E5-2650v4 24c/48t | 128GB DDR4 2133Mhz | 2x2TB NVME / 2x1TB NVME / 2x2TB HDD | Proxmox Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Hello everyone, long time no speak. Been super busy with stuff. Today I was pondering windows 7 and was wondering if this was possible? Um not too familiar on the ins and outs of hardware documentation. I asked grok A.I. this question. 3 1 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | Gigabyte Aorus Elite X870E| AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Raiderman said: Hello everyone, long time no speak. Been super busy with stuff. Today I was pondering windows 7 and was wondering if this was possible? Um not too familiar on the ins and outs of hardware documentation. I asked grok A.I. this question. Hey brother. Hope all is well with you and your family. That is a brilliant idea. I may have to look into that. I would love to be able to go back to Windows 7 and cannot due to lack of driver support. 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 48GB DDR5-8200 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB VRAM | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Refurb Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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