*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

In regards to voltages and 5090s, in the same vein as I was asking awhile ago here about subjecting naturally lower voltage cards to forced, higher voltages via EVC2 or now with the XOC. There is a reason cards are coming off the fab binned at various voltages and qualities:

 

 

 

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9800X3D vs 265k at all thee resolutions (1080p, 1440p, 2160p)

 

Pay particular attention to the 1% and .1% across all the results:

 

 

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On 12/8/2025 at 9:57 PM, tps3443 said:

Anyone using Liquid Metal needs to try some of the Supercool Liquid Metal. It has changed my mindset completely. The stuff just doesn’t degrade like other Liquid Metal’s do. 
 

It doesn’t perform quite as good as Kryonaut Extreme, but longevity is the best I have ever seen with Liquid Metal. And I will easily take the +2c worse temps for better longevity. This is one of the main reasons I have not hard lined my 5090. Radiator Fan speed really doesn’t matter if your delta sucks. And so far I have held 8c@400 watts and 12c@600 watts. 
 

This is +565@935mv the fans are all turning 1300rpm which results in a 38c GPU temps, with 30c water. 
 

It has already been 3 months since I applied the Liquid Metal. 
 

I have re-pasted Liquid Metal so many times, and degraded Liquid Metal so many times. This stuff is really a miracle TIM! I also re-pasted my Acer Predator 18” 4090 laptop with it too. Excellent LM. It’s like the mix is different on this LM, and drying out or any reaction from gallium and air is slowed or doesn’t happen at all. I’ll be curious to see what 6 months looks like. But typically for me at 3 months mark any other Liquid Metal would already be degraded and a loss in temps or instability is present at the previous overclocks. 
 

 

 

 

Is there a review out on this stuff comparing it to other pastes along with other LMs and PTM?

 

 

[Talon]

21 hours ago, electrosoft said:

In regards to voltages and 5090s, in the same vein as I was asking awhile ago here about subjecting naturally lower voltage cards to forced, higher voltages via EVC2 or now with the XOC. There is a reason cards are coming off the fab binned at various voltages and qualities:

 

 

 

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9800X3D vs 265k at all thee resolutions (1080p, 1440p, 2160p)

 

Pay particular attention to the 1% and .1% across all the results:

 

 

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Is there a review out on this stuff comparing it to other pastes along with other LMs and PTM?

 

 

 

75ns latency on 265K LMAO. GTFO. Garbage. 

 

60-63ns is a tuned Arrow Lake 265K. Below that is amazing tuning with lottery IMC. But 75ns and that terrible bandwidth, LMAO, straight garbage. 

 

Literally tuned the TREFI to 65535 and left the 265K stupid low. Why the F would you do that other than attempting to misrepresent performance? 

 

Also heavily agree on the RTX 5090 voltages. It's amazing how good my Surpim SOC clocks with it's default 1.15-1.12v.

[Reciever]

So I am at a bit of an impasse. Just been working 14 hour days this past month all the way up to my vacation (which was almost canceled lol). I don't like when people do this to me but here I am about to do the same. 

 

I am hoping to build a water loop for my Red Devil 7900 XTX, it's been 15 years since my last Waterloop not sure where to buy these things anymore. 

 

I'd like to get the 1080mm UT45/60 and alpha core block just not sure about the rest. 

 

Does the UT45/60 have mounting points for res and pump? Does it need a kit for that sort of thing? As payment for troubling you all I'll take plenty of pictures of the build log. 

 

I am based in the US, Texas, 76001

 

I know @Mr. Fox gave me some good info before I still have it favorited. I'd like to get everything purchased by tonight if possible. 

 

Thanks in advance everyone

[electrosoft]

5 hours ago, Talon said:

 

75ns latency on 265K LMAO. GTFO. Garbage. 

 

60-63ns is a tuned Arrow Lake 265K. Below that is amazing tuning with lottery IMC. But 75ns and that terrible bandwidth, LMAO, straight garbage. 

 

Literally tuned the TREFI to 65535 and left the 265K stupid low. Why the F would you do that other than attempting to misrepresent performance? 

 

Also heavily agree on the RTX 5090 voltages. It's amazing how good my Surpim SOC clocks with it's default 1.15-1.12v.

 

Yeah, that's the thing. Those timings are trash still, BUT even with them the 265k has better overall 1% and .1%. First thing I did was think, "tuned properly, how much even better will the lows be?" Clearly a base X3D owner and that's ok but you have to give equal love.

 

As for Voltages and 5090, more fuel for the higher voltage fire being a factor:

 

 

I think that with the release more of the Matrix vBIOS than the XOC, we're really seeing even air cooled cards pulling ahead with higher voltage from factory.

 

The argument that lower voltage cards are more efficient while higher voltage cards have more OC capability has merit.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Reciever said:

So I am at a bit of an impasse. Just been working 14 hour days this past month all the way up to my vacation (which was almost canceled lol). I don't like when people do this to me but here I am about to do the same. 

 

I am hoping to build a water loop for my Red Devil 7900 XTX, it's been 15 years since my last Waterloop not sure where to buy these things anymore. 

 

I'd like to get the 1080mm UT45/60 and alpha core block just not sure about the rest. 

 

Does the UT45/60 have mounting points for res and pump? Does it need a kit for that sort of thing? As payment for troubling you all I'll take plenty of pictures of the build log. 

 

I am based in the US, Texas, 76001

 

I know @Mr. Fox gave me some good info before I still have it favorited. I'd like to get everything purchased by tonight if possible. 

 

Thanks in advance everyone

 

Between @Mr. Fox , @tps3443 and @Raiderman, you're in good hands @Reciever!

[Papusan]

 

Hmmm. QC cost money. But what with RMA?  

 

Updating the BIOS on some MSI motherboards can leave the screen blank, and to fix this you'll have to buy a new graphics card.

In recent days, we've seen a problem that has unsettled more than one MSI motherboard user:

 

But the warning hints at something deeper. Current BIOS versions are changing at a very rapid pace because new generations of CPUs require constant adjustments . This means that a simple update can affect internal components we never thought could fail, such as how the UEFI itself generates video output.

And when access to the BIOS depends on your GPU "understanding" what the BIOS is trying to display, the risk becomes real—so real, in fact, that ASK has had to issue a general warning. Worse still, the uncertainty is growing. ASK hasn't revealed which models are affected, whether motherboards or graphics cards; the warning is general. There's no further information, which suggests the problem is escalating rapidly and affecting more users than we realize.

 

We're awaiting a statement from MSI regarding this, as we've already seen issues with AGESA 1.2.8.0 , and we don't know if this is related again after removing the BIOS from their download. It could be an AMD issue with the Ryzen 7000 and 9000 series and their firmware for older graphics cards, but if so, which platforms, sockets, and chipsets are affected? Too many questions, no answers , but we'll be keeping an eye out for any statements or open investigations into this matter.

[Mr. Fox]

9 hours ago, Reciever said:

Does the UT45/60 have mounting points for res and pump? Does it need a kit for that sort of thing? As payment for troubling you all I'll take plenty of pictures of the build log. 

 

I am based in the US, Texas, 76001

 

I know @Mr. Fox gave me some good info before I still have it favorited. I'd like to get everything purchased by tonight if possible. 

 

Thanks in advance everyone

If you purchase the housing it does but the radiator itself does not. Be sure you buy the right housing. The UT60 radiator will not fit a UT45 housing.

 

Sorry I did not see the posted question earlier.

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It is interesting how little difference there is between 8000/8200/8400 on Ryzen. Very close to none.

And, only minor improvements from tighter timings. Again, very close to nothing. The value of the more expensive Apex motherboard starts to grow very dim.

[Reciever]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If you purchase the housing it does but the radiator itself does not. Be sure you buy the right housing. The UT60 radiator will not fit a UT45 housing.

 

Sorry I did not see the posted question earlier.

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It is interesting how little difference there is between 8000/8200/8400 on Ryzen. Very close to none.

 

This is what I am looking at for the moment.

Looks like I wont be able to get in to me quite some time though...

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, Reciever said:

 

This is what I am looking at for the moment.

Looks like I wont be able to get in to me quite some time though...

Nice! That's going to really be awesome. You're much safer going that route than ordering it from a vendor outside of the US because of how incompetent the shippers are (or dishonest creeps) when it comes to grossly overcalculating tariffs. So many horror stories of victims being charge 2 or 3 times more than the actual tariff. There will be a special place in hell for the folks that do that. I believe it is intentional. but it could just be incompetence.

 

This is pretty dang impressive.

 

 

[Reciever]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Nice! That's going to really be awesome. You're much safer going that route than ordering it from a vendor outside of the US because of how incompetent the shippers are (or dishonest creeps) when it comes to grossly overcalculating tariffs. So many horror stories of victims being charge 2 or 3 times more than the actual tariff. There will be a special place in hell for the folks that do that. I believe it is intentional. but it could just be incompetence.

 

I always get confused on the tubing, I know I want flexible tubing. 

What fittings and tubes should I go with?

I found most of the same things on Amazon so it should arrive while I am on vacation. I'll see if I can find what I need on Amazon so its just one big order. 

Sold my second tower tonight so most of this is bankrolled by that :) I did buy 2x 2697A v4's for my last tower (currently on 2650 V4's and also just got my Xeon Gold 6248's for the server I am building to replace the Dell's that I got fed up with.