*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

They will still offer gaming cards😬 8GB cards at premium. Perfect cards for coming Garbage mode in games. Yup, this is progress. The old 980 notebook GPU in my Clevo from 2015 have also 8GB vram buffer but with not as fast cores as the new and modern GPUs in 2026. 11 years of innovation. Heey, yeah I forgot this one from 2014 or 12 years ago... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M This is pathetic.

 

 

AMD's RDNA 4 focus for 2026 will reportedly be one GPU, the Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB

 

In addition to the shift in focus to 8GB cards, the report notes that a 5-10% price increase for Radeon GPUs occurred in January 2026 for AMD's AIB partners purchasing GPU and memory bundles, and another price increase is coming soon. So soon that it could take effect as early as this month, or at the latest in March.

Even the Quadro P5000 MXM in my Dell Precision turdbook has 16GB of vRAM. It is inexcusable that 8GB GPU options exist today. That should only be on the cheapest and lowest tier garbage-class products that are just one step up from integrated graphics.

 

Nothing new is built to last the test of time or deliver maximum performance. Everything is designed to fail, and deliver structured performance limitations, to ensure a never-ending flow of cash.

 

It is remarkably similar to the pharmaceutical industry and practice of medicine. They do not make money on healthy people or cures. Keeping people on meds forever, and follow up doctor visits to renew prescriptions, and creating new medical problems from prolonged consumption of chemicals that require more meds and more medical care is the gift that keeps on giving. They don't want anyone to be healthy because it is bad for business. 

 

PC and electronics hardware companies do not want to manufacture and sell durable consumer products that perform well. They want to sell garbage with a limited lifespan so they can collect more money on upgrades and product refreshes to replace the last generation of trash they sold consumers.

 

Live to pay, pay to live. Just like the old bumper sticker... Ass, gas or grass... nobody rides for free.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Even the Quadro P5000 MXM in my Dell Precision turdbook has 16GB of vRAM. It is inexcusable that 8GB GPU options exist today. That should only be on the cheapest and lowest tier garbage-class products that are just one step up from integrated graphics.

 

One more reason to make Garbage mode in modern games. 

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 SUPER pushed back, RTX 60 mass production could move to 2028

[electrosoft]

17 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Intel put the money into AI focused GPUs. They want their share of the cake before the bubble pops. But max profit from the more expensive workstation cards is also very welcome. 

 

If you are in hope for intel consumer graphics cards meant for gaming, then you can buy Intel CPUs. iGPU  will come with Multi-Frame Generation feature, same as from Nvidia. Nice.

Intel confirms its fight in GPUs against NVIDIA and AMD by hiring Eric Demers to lead the design of its graphics architecture.

Intel has faced uncertainty in the AI sector for the past two years, but yesterday, at Cisco's AI Summit, it sought to dispel any doubts about its continued presence in the GPU market.

 

 

Intel Arc B770, aka Big Battlemage, has reportedly been canceled due to AI
A new report citing sources at Intel is saying that the company has canceled the Intel Arc B770 in favor of the workstation, AI-focused Arc Pro B70.

 

According to a report on XDA, Intel has canceled its plans for a second Battlemage gaming GPU due to a "lack of financial viability."

 

 

 

I don't blame Intel for cancelling B770 at this point of the current GPU cycle with skyrocketing memory prices for consumers and inflated costs for VRAM. I just don't think it is viable right now.

 

I would also redirect short term efforts to suck up all the AI $$ they can while they continue to refine and make substantial gains in the mobile market both CPU and GPU wise and introduce a serious architecture advancement with Nova in the fall.

 

I'm in total agreement with every decision Intel has recently made recently (which is rare) and I think they could be the dominant hand held and mobile laptop force this and next year. Tack on Nova and their own X3D along with serious gains in MT performance? Yeah, things are looking good for Intel IMHO. They're hungry again and clawing their way back with a vengeance. 

 

Ironically, it is AMD who is stagnating at the moment as @Mr. Fox video from Jay lets us know.....

 

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

They are all part of the same circle jerk and worshipping at the same Satanic throne of AI filth.

 

 

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

They will still offer gaming cards😬 8GB cards at premium. Perfect cards for coming Garbage mode in games. Yup, this is progress. The old 980 notebook GPU in my Clevo from 2015 have also 8GB vram buffer but with not as fast cores as the new and modern GPUs in 2026. 11 years of innovation. Heey, yeah I forgot this one from 2014 or 12 years ago with  8GB vram... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M This is pathetic. Not even mid tier cards nowadays can should have more than 8GB vram.

 

 

AMD's RDNA 4 focus for 2026 will reportedly be one GPU, the Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB

 

In addition to the shift in focus to 8GB cards, the report notes that a 5-10% price increase for Radeon GPUs occurred in January 2026 for AMD's AIB partners purchasing GPU and memory bundles, and another price increase is coming soon. So soon that it could take effect as early as this month, or at the latest in March.

 

 

 

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

 

Like I've said since the old forums, corporations are NOT your friend. It is a transactional scenario each and every time. They offer a product you want at a price you will pay. You buy it. End of story.

 

Now it looks like the 6000 series could slip into 2028 

Memory prices are rumored to have a significant bump sooner than later

SSDs continue to rise....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pushed-back-rtx-60-mass-production-could-move-to-2028

 

Right now, if you're in the market for GPUs, RAM or SSDs, (in that order), it is not a good time to buy.

 

Better to stalk the used market or as noted before, get a Microcenter bundle if you need new hardware.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I don't blame Intel for cancelling B770 at this point of the current GPU cycle with skyrocketing memory prices for consumers and inflated costs for VRAM. I just don't think it is viable right now.

 

I would also redirect short term efforts to suck up all the AI $$ they can while they continue to refine and make substantial gains in the mobile market both CPU and GPU wise and introduce a serious architecture advancement with Nova in the fall.

 

I'm in total agreement with every decision Intel has recently made recently (which is rare) and I think they could be the dominant hand held and mobile laptop force this and next year. Tack on Nova and their own X3D along with serious gains in MT performance? Yeah, things are looking good for Intel IMHO. They're hungry again and clawing their way back with a vengeance. 

 

Ironically, it is AMD who is stagnating at the moment as @Mr. Fox video from Jay lets us know.....

 

 

 

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

 

Like I've said since the old forums, corporations are NOT your friend. It is a transactional scenario each and every time. They offer a product you want at a price you will pay. You buy it. End of story.

 

Now it looks like the 6000 series could slip into 2028 

Memory prices are rumored to have a significant bump sooner than later

SSDs continue to rise....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pushed-back-rtx-60-mass-production-could-move-to-2028

 

Right now, if you're in the market for GPUs, RAM or SSDs, (in that order), it is not a good time to buy.

 

Better to stalk the used market or as noted before, get a Microcenter bundle if you need new hardware.

The least they could do is pretend they love us and say nice things while they are choking us and pulling our hair.

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

No surprise here..... Nvidia, AMD and Intel are going where the massive profits are and that is all things AI and all things data centers atm....they are behaving *exactly* as I would expect them to.

The question is, "Are there really going to be massive profits?" or are they spending a lot of money on a gamble that may or may not eventually pay off? I am not convinced they are going to make money and may end up drawing back a bloody stump before it's over. I certainly hope so. It would be a real shame if their cash-grabbing nonsense turns out well for them and for their shareholders. I'd much prefer to see financial tragedy visited upon them. Tit for tat.

[Clamibot]

On 2/3/2026 at 11:37 PM, Reciever said:

Hey Guys! 

On the z490-h for now until the replacement motherboard arrives. I have also acquired the GPU risers to split the x16 lane into x8 so I can do 2 GPU's off the single lane via bifurcation. 3090Ti will be coming out of retirement to some degree for Lossless Scaling but in the interim I did test it conceptually with the 3090Ti as raster and the 1080Ti as Frame Gen. 

 

Seems to work pretty well in the couple of titles that I have tested.

 

Allegedly you dont want the Raster GPU to be fully saturated as it increases the time it takes to send the frames to the secondary GPU. Honestly I am pretty surprised how well it worked given the software's price point. 

 

Main game I have tested were Monster Hunter Wilds and Borderlands 4 both games have piss poor engines. I was able to hit 120 FPS in both, B4 did crash a couple of times but I was mucking with the settings as that game cant run without some Scaling or FG. I did also try Horizon: Forbidden West but I should have to the DLC area as its more GPU intensive.

 

For people that dont want to pony up the cash for new GPU's I think this may be a viable option on the table much in the way SLI/Xfire used to be for me in the old days.

Nvidia still pisses me off though. If I install 591 driver, 1080Ti doesnt work, If I install latest driver for 1080Ti (581) then the 3090Ti doesnt work. I have to let windows install 560 in order for both to work until I figure out another way to go about it. 

 

I'm very happy to see a fellow community member using Lossless Scaling in the exact fashion I do. This is something I've been promoting for a while, and I'm happy to see someone else interested in using Lossless Scaling to relive the days of SLI/Crossfire. This really is the way to better performance in games if you're super hungry for those frames but don't want to spend anything on new hardware. We can instead use what we already have!

 

Cluster computing to increase performance in games is awesome. I use a combination of Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight to use two machines to render a game. Being able to take advantage of the combined performance of 2 computers to run your games is awesome!

 

As an experiment, I think I'm going to see if a Tri-SLI/Trifire setup is possible this way. As I haven't tried that sort of a setup yet. I got a Radeon 9070 XT and a Radeon 9060 XT from Micro Center just before prices got to skyrocket, so I was able to get some hardware at those sweet discount prices. The 9060 XT was for my dad, but I'll be installing the 9070 XT in my desktop sometime soon when I find extra time.

 

Currently, my desktop has a Radeon 6950 XT and an RTX 3080. I'm going to install the 9070 XT in my desktop and use that as my new render GPU, then use the RTX 3080 as my frame gen GPU. I'm going to install the 6950 XT in my second desktop (which currently has a GTX 1060) and pass those frames to my second desktop using Apollo + Moonlight, then perform another layer of frame gen on that input using a second instance of Lossless Scaling running on this machine. BAM! Triple GPU rendering baby!

 

With some really awesome newer monitors coming out, I'm going to want the 1000 fps experience in every game, which should be achievable through a triple GPU setup using Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight. I actually really want the Thermaltake Core W200 case for my next build I will inevitably do sometime in the future, but it seems it's nowhere to be found anymore. I may have to just stick with 2 separate cases. Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Clamibot said:

Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?

The Thermaltake Core W200 was an awesome case. I have always wanted one. In the rare circumstance I could even find one they were so ridiculously priced that I could not justify the cost. 

 

There have only been a couple that I am aware of. Even monster cases like the Corsair 1000D Obsidian only support mini-ITX for the second mobo and SFX for the secondary PSU. The Phanteks Enthoo 719 also only supports mini-ITX for the second mobo, but does support two ATX PSUs.

I had a Thermaltake Level 20 XT E-ATX Extreme LCS Capable Split Level Modular Gaming Cube Case CA-1L1-00F1WN-00 that I purchased in 2019. It supported dual ATX PSUs and you could add a second ATX mobo tray. Those are also nowhere to be found. It was not crazy tall, but it was so huge from front to back that the feet would not fit on either of my desks. I had to put it sideways on the desk. It was my favorite case of all time except for the fact that it needed a dedicated desk just for the case. It was so gigantic that I just could not accommodate it in my tiny home office. If I had a bigger office I would never have gotten rid of it. It was amazing.

Spoiler

 

You might just want to go with a server rack setup with two 4U chassis units that each support ATX/E-ATX boards, ATX PSUs and full sized GPUs. Leave the lid off (for GPU power cable clearance if necessary) and leave an empty space between them in the rack.

 

Maybe a couple of units like this: https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rsv-l4500u-black/p/N82E16811147328?Item=N82E16811147328 and mount them in a rack. https://www.newegg.com/p/2BA-01UW-00010

 

 

A more expensive option (maybe not worth it compared to the Rosewill) would be two of these: https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-006F-001D2 mounted in a rack.

 

 

Silverstone also makes an RM51 5U chassis, but you would be looking at $1,000-$1,200 (at the least) for a pair of them and a rack. https://www.provantage.com/silverstone-rm51~7SLST033.htm?source=googleps

 

 

[Reciever]

2 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

I'm very happy to see a fellow community member using Lossless Scaling in the exact fashion I do. This is something I've been promoting for a while, and I'm happy to see someone else interested in using Lossless Scaling to relive the days of SLI/Crossfire. This really is the way to better performance in games if you're super hungry for those frames but don't want to spend anything on new hardware. We can instead use what we already have!

 

Cluster computing to increase performance in games is awesome. I use a combination of Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight to use two machines to render a game. Being able to take advantage of the combined performance of 2 computers to run your games is awesome!

 

As an experiment, I think I'm going to see if a Tri-SLI/Trifire setup is possible this way. As I haven't tried that sort of a setup yet. I got a Radeon 9070 XT and a Radeon 9060 XT from Micro Center just before prices got to skyrocket, so I was able to get some hardware at those sweet discount prices. The 9060 XT was for my dad, but I'll be installing the 9070 XT in my desktop sometime soon when I find extra time.

 

Currently, my desktop has a Radeon 6950 XT and an RTX 3080. I'm going to install the 9070 XT in my desktop and use that as my new render GPU, then use the RTX 3080 as my frame gen GPU. I'm going to install the 6950 XT in my second desktop (which currently has a GTX 1060) and pass those frames to my second desktop using Apollo + Moonlight, then perform another layer of frame gen on that input using a second instance of Lossless Scaling running on this machine. BAM! Triple GPU rendering baby!

 

With some really awesome newer monitors coming out, I'm going to want the 1000 fps experience in every game, which should be achievable through a triple GPU setup using Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight. I actually really want the Thermaltake Core W200 case for my next build I will inevitably do sometime in the future, but it seems it's nowhere to be found anymore. I may have to just stick with 2 separate cases. Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?

 

I did get curious about formal Xfire/SLI + Lossless, if you set Dynamic framerate target then one might be able to mitigate some of the failings of that method of generating preferable framerates. It'll have to wait until I get my replacement motherboard but it would be an interesting experiment.