*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

6 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

Ha yup AM5 longevity ftw! been on it with the X670EE since Oct 2022 😄 exact reason why i got it in the first place and went all out on the mobo, enjoying the platform longevity to the max!

 

Yeah it's crazy. I went through my orders and I officially started AM5 in April 2023 with my original MSI Carbon x670e Wifi and ran that 7800X3D then 7950X3D, switched to that SP113 13900KS for a spell then back to my AM5 rig before Intel finally won me back over in Summer 2024 for a spell with the SP109 14900KS then AMD dropped the 9800X3D that pulled me back in and that's where I've been since.

 

6 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

im definitely curious about the X3D2 and how the reviews will turn out on it. however, im cautious, a mere 10% in productivity and/or gaming will not be enough for me to pull the trigger on it. for that, Zen 6 is already too close to release. my previous upgrade coming from the 7950X to the 9950X3D made much more sense, productivity wise it was in the range of +10-15%, with gaming at a whopping 30-35%. compared to that, wouldnt make sense to switch over to an X3D2 for single digit gains...

bro @electrosoft brought up a good point with the IF though, if either that or the IMC is in any way improved ill be very curious to see what kinda extra gains we could get out of it. im a bit doubtful though, since zen 6 is gonna bring updates in those regards anyways, so wouldnt make sense for AMD to push their last zen 5 chips up, would eat away at their perfomance gap to the next gen....

 

Exactly.

 

Throwing another X3D CCD in there without improvements elsewhere to help with performance seems like a useless chip. I'm, personally, hoping for an Intel 11th gen scenario where the 11900k was clearly a Frankenchip with a lot of the transitional tech that made its way into 12th gen in the best way. AM5 + 2x X3D CCDs + some preliminary AM6 love in regards to the fabric would be a fun chip to play around with. It may give us a portend of things to come with AM6 in that regard but we will see...

 

If somehow it turns out to be a gaming behemoth, I would probably give one a whirl if only to feed my 5090 better than the 9800X3D can in WoW or Fallout 76. Top of its class, but so many times even at 4k the 5090 is twiddling its thumbs and yawning 🙂

 

6 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

btw guys, anyone with a 14900K(S) willing to part with it for a good price? think might be time for my lady's machine to get an upgrade 🙂 lemme know! im hesitant to pay full price for a new part since its already a bit date, at the same time i wouldnt trust second hand due to the degradation issues with RPL...

 

The trick, as always for laptop DTRs running desktop CPUs, is going to have a cooler running, non leaky power efficient bin which is almost always a higher SP chip especially with the limited cooling on the NH55. I had always planned to put the SP109 in the NH55 because it runs stupidly cool even at 59/45/50 an AIO keeps it cool. I have it capped at 253w though as that is more than enough for its needs but then a couple of modern free laptops sent for eval and it didn't make any sense at that point performance wise and off she went. 🙂

 

I'd say bin on a cheap desktop board and lesser cooling to get a good chip. I did this when I was binning 12900k chips for the NH55 and used an ID Cooling mid grade air cooler to at least simulate similar cooling conditions and the variance in chips with heat and pull was pretty insane. It gets even more insane with the 14900KS chips. I did the same for the X170SM with a rash of 10900k chips. The X170KM was hilarious because I bought an 11900k model and it had one of the sweetest, cool running 11900k chips I had ever seen in it. I cleaned up the thermal interface on it and it literally ran full tilt out of the box with no adjustments needed. One and done.

 

Same process used for the glory years of the P870 too from 6700k up to the 9900k tons of fun binning to get them tamed for D2D use.

 

*Sigh* we need another real DTR ASAP....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I'd say bin on a cheap desktop board and lesser cooling to get a good chip. I did this when I was binning 12900k chips for the NH55 and used an ID Cooling mid grade air cooler to at least simulate similar cooling conditions and the variance in chips with heat and pull was pretty insane. It gets even more insane with the 14900KS chips. I did the same for the X170SM with a rash of 10900k chips. The X170KM was hilarious because I bought an 11900k model and it had one of the sweetest, cool running 11900k chips I had ever seen in it. I cleaned up the thermal interface on it and it literally ran full tilt out of the box with no adjustments needed. One and done.

 

Same process used for the glory years of the P870 too from 6700k up to the 9900k tons of fun binning to get them tamed for D2D use.

 

*Sigh* we need another real DTR ASAP....

 

haha im actually just looking for a good price on a fully functioning chip with no degradation issues, thats pretty much it 😛

ill have to throttle it down to fit inito the cooling / power envelope of her machine anyways, plus i nowadays have barely enough time to do a tiny bit of tuninig on my own setup, so wouldnt have any time budget to do any binning 😄 so basically just tune down the cpu to keep it under control cooling wise and then maybe do a bit of tuning on the RAM side, thats it 🙂 

 

speaking of RAM, finished tightening the timings on my current DDR5-7600 setup, now off to vBios flashing and comparison! also finally got around to setting up / installing / updating firmware on the wireview pro II, loving it!

[Mr. Fox]

So, the temporary Mint Mobile carrier lock expired (60 day hold on a new phone) and so I unlocked my new Google Pixel 10 XL Pro and installed GrapheneOS. Super easy and really slick. Initial install took like 15 minutes including the time it took for me to read the instructions. No ADB software or sketchy apk downloads required. (Actually officially authorized by Google as weird as it seems.) So, now no more Google tracking or data collection. I created a Google-free user account named "No Google" and another named "Google Crap" with Google Play and all of the Google apps sandboxed into their own little dysfunctional world where they can't function like the Alphabet identity theft cartel wants them to.

 

So far all of the sandboxed Google garbage is working correctly, including my banking and financial apps. The only part that was a little bit of a pain was my Micro$lop and Google Authenticator app migration. I finally got everything but one of my four Micro$lop accounts working and I cannot get a auth code for it for some reason. I only had one recovery email assigned to that account and trying to receive a text message with a code produces an error that "this method cannot be used right now, please try again later" so maybe tomorrow it will sort itself out. Everything worked normally for the other 3 Micro$lop accounts, Google 2FA and Yahoo, just that one being stubborn.

 

Overall, I am surprised at how little effort this was. Other than having one account with no trace of Google garbage (which is awesome) it seems like an ordinary phone. It's crazy how snappy it functions with like 15 open source (non-Google) apps installed on the de-Googled user account. Things open so instantaneously in the absence of bloat that it is kind of freaky and surreal.

[Papusan]

 

I have never been happy about the stupid cut out on the backplate to reduce thermal paste costs. Have mentioned this several times. Always a bigger risk damage the GPU with this stupid backplate design.

 

Yep, it can happen anyway but the risk is still less with proper made full cover backplate and extra thermal paste above the chips also reduce the temp on the whole GPU and PCB. 

 

 

NZXT AIO leak damages RTX 5090 ROG Astral, company offers $2,855 but user says it is not enough to replace the card

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

I have never been happy about the stupid cut out on the backplate to reduce thermal paste costs. Have mentioned this several times. Always a bigger risk damage the GPU with this stupid backplate design.

 

Yep, it can happen anyway but the risk is still less with proper made full cover backplate and extra thermal paste above the chips also reduce the temp on the whole GPU and PCB. 

 

 

NZXT AIO leak damages RTX 5090 ROG Astral, company offers $2,855 but user says it is not enough to replace the card

 

I kinda like seeing the caps as long as they're all MLCCs. Something fancy about it visually. Hybrid design with some Poscaps in there? Meh, they can cover that up....

 

I hate to side with NZXT on this one, but this guy is asking for current market value for a card he originally paid MSRP and that just isn't going to fly.

 

Just like I feel bad for those with bad memory or storage and they're being reimbursed their original purchase costs because prices have gone through the moon. I don't like it, but I clearly understand where the companies are coming from on that cost wise and obligation wise.

 

NZXT offered him full original MSRP market value plus I am going to assume tax or whatever is the over cost.

 

He wants a current market Astral AND his original card back....

 

He is hoping the court of public opinion will blow this up a bit and NZXT will just settle.

 

I would have taken the AIO replacement, original cost paid for GPU/MB and went about my way.....

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

I would have taken the AIO replacement, original cost paid for GPU/MB and went about my way.....

If they are offering to cover his actual costs this is reasonable and the most they should be legally obligated to pay. A loss cannot be greater than the original expense and covering the actual original cost would make him fully whole. You cannot lose money that you never spent. Anything extra he would need to pay to purchase new replacement parts at current market prices would not be considered a loss in the context of a warranty or claim. What he would need to pay today to buy the replacement parts would not be relevant to his loss. He can use the money received to buy something else for the same or less than what was originally spent.

[Mr. Fox]

Brother @Papusan check out Tony's comment around 6:50. He says what you and I say all of the time about "newer" LOL.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

On 4/18/2026 at 8:10 AM, Mr. Fox said:

9950X3D2 is going to be a DOA product to me.  Zen 6 will likely be good, but we haven't seen Intel's answer to that yet.

 

On 4/19/2026 at 5:11 AM, jaybee83 said:

im definitely curious about the X3D2 and how the reviews will turn out on it. however, im cautious, a mere 10% in productivity and/or gaming will not be enough for me to pull the trigger on it. for that, Zen 6 is already too close to release. my previous upgrade coming from the 7950X to the 9950X3D made much more sense, productivity wise it was in the range of +10-15%, with gaming at a whopping 30-35%. compared to that, wouldnt make sense to switch over to an X3D2 for single digit gains...

bro @electrosoft brought up a good point with the IF though, if either that or the IMC is in any way improved ill be very curious to see what kinda extra gains we could get out of it. im a bit doubtful though, since zen 6 is gonna bring updates in those regards anyways, so wouldnt make sense for AMD to push their last zen 5 chips up, would eat away at their perfomance gap to the next gen....

While it is by no means a definitive or comprehensive review, (and may not need to be,) this is shaping up as I expected it might. Not a bad product, but definitely a bad value. The juice ain't gonna be worth the squeeze.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/3114-amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2/

 

Roman seems to have a similar opinion. $900 is a lot of money to spend on something that doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, to most people.

...and Wendell...

 

[electrosoft]

Welp, when it rains it pours. First, a big ole tax hit and now the wife's Altima literally died in the drive way and yep the CVT is trashed so now we need a new car. I'll probably just give her mine since she commutes 90 min / day to finish beating up and get us a newer travel/local car.....

 

31 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

While it is by no means a definitive or comprehensive review, (and may not need to be,) this is shaping up as I expected it might. Not a bad product, but definitely a bad value. The juice ain't gonna be worth the squeeze.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/3114-amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2/

 

First note is AMD treating Gamers Nexus grimey and not supplying them with a sample. HUB ended up sending theirs to Steve after testing. That is very Nvidia of them to do that.

 

Yeah, as expected too pricey for what we're getting but it is a mild performance bump over the 9950X3D in normal tasks with some results hitting 20% (blender) but usually ~2-5%.

 

Gaming wise, slightly slower in shader compiles (Intel rules the roost) and gaming it is a big, dull dud at this point needing situational games to shine a little but usually being the same or slower than the 9950X3D2.

 

AMD was right to not promote its gaming prowess.

 

Last gasp for me is how is the silicon quality overall and the IMC but everything else? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

 

Hmmm. AMD want pretty premium for the second 3D v-cashe. But $900 USD will be cheap compared  to next gen Intel chips with bLLC (Big Last Level Cache). Can't remember have seen mainstream processors going above $900 USD the last two decades. If AMD had the balls and priced it at $999 it would be in HEDT territory. So close but no cigar

 

Could be there is still some hope for people with less outcome... Intel plans to launch overclockable budget CPUs

 

In overall application performance, the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 looks like that KS-style chip, offering a minor 3.9% jump over the 9950X3D in multithreaded performance when taking common workloads into account.

 

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 review: More cache, more cash

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

First note is AMD treating Gamers Nexus grimey and not supplying them with a sample. HUB ended up sending theirs to Steve after testing. That is very Nvidia of them to do that.

 

No Ryzen 9950X3D2 for TechPowerUp, Gamers Nexus, or ComputerBase

We're not alone. As VideoCardz noted in their review roundup, Gamers Nexus reacted strongly after being denied a sample, ComputerBase, one of the top publications, was also denied, just like many others that you know for their deep, methodical testing—exactly the kind of reviews that dig into cache behavior, inter-CCD latency, power scaling, and per-game CCD parking quirks, which on a part like this are arguably the whole story.

[jaybee83]

On 4/20/2026 at 9:06 AM, Mr. Fox said:

So, the temporary Mint Mobile carrier lock expired (60 day hold on a new phone) and so I unlocked my new Google Pixel 10 XL Pro and installed GrapheneOS. Super easy and really slick. Initial install took like 15 minutes including the time it took for me to read the instructions. No ADB software or sketchy apk downloads required. (Actually officially authorized by Google as weird as it seems.) So, now no more Google tracking or data collection. I created a Google-free user account named "No Google" and another named "Google Crap" with Google Play and all of the Google apps sandboxed into their own little dysfunctional world where they can't function like the Alphabet identity theft cartel wants them to.

 

So far all of the sandboxed Google garbage is working correctly, including my banking and financial apps. The only part that was a little bit of a pain was my Micro$lop and Google Authenticator app migration. I finally got everything but one of my four Micro$lop accounts working and I cannot get a auth code for it for some reason. I only had one recovery email assigned to that account and trying to receive a text message with a code produces an error that "this method cannot be used right now, please try again later" so maybe tomorrow it will sort itself out. Everything worked normally for the other 3 Micro$lop accounts, Google 2FA and Yahoo, just that one being stubborn.

 

Overall, I am surprised at how little effort this was. Other than having one account with no trace of Google garbage (which is awesome) it seems like an ordinary phone. It's crazy how snappy it functions with like 15 open source (non-Google) apps installed on the de-Googled user account. Things open so instantaneously in the absence of bloat that it is kind of freaky and surreal.

 

congratz on the new phone, shes a beaut! 🙂 and lulz thats funny timing, i actually just switched the other way around and went back from custom to full stock 😄 just dont have the time to tinker with custom roms anymore...

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Welp, when it rains it pours. First, a big ole tax hit and now the wife's Altima literally died in the drive way and yep the CVT is trashed so now we need a new car. I'll probably just give her mine since she commutes 90 min / day to finish beating up and get us a newer travel/local car.....

 

 

First note is AMD treating Gamers Nexus grimey and not supplying them with a sample. HUB ended up sending theirs to Steve after testing. That is very Nvidia of them to do that.

 

Yeah, as expected too pricey for what we're getting but it is a mild performance bump over the 9950X3D in normal tasks with some results hitting 20% (blender) but usually ~2-5%.

 

Gaming wise, slightly slower in shader compiles (Intel rules the roost) and gaming it is a big, dull dud at this point needing situational games to shine a little but usually being the same or slower than the 9950X3D2.

 

AMD was right to not promote its gaming prowess.

 

Last gasp for me is how is the silicon quality overall and the IMC but everything else? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

While it is by no means a definitive or comprehensive review, (and may not need to be,) this is shaping up as I expected it might. Not a bad product, but definitely a bad value. The juice ain't gonna be worth the squeeze.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/3114-amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2/

 

Roman seems to have a similar opinion. $900 is a lot of money to spend on something that doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, to most people.

...and Wendell...

 

 

yeaaaaaaah.....nope

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

congratz on the new phone, shes a beaut! 🙂 and lulz thats funny timing, i actually just switched the other way around and went back from custom to full stock 😄 just dont have the time to tinker with custom roms anymore...

Thanks. I like it a lot and my wife loves her Pixel 10 XL Pro, too.

 

Yeah, I don't have time for tinkering either, especially not for smartphone crap. This was super fast and easy. The only tinkering I had to do was the Micro$lop and Google Authenticator migration, but that would have ended the same even with a stock ROM. Getting them going on the new phone with a stock ROM was equally inconvenient. Installing Graphene OS was just as easy as a factory reset, minus all of the garbage I don't want (much of which cannot be removed). No need for hacks or rooting. It felt good to boot to an OS with only about 15 open source Android apps installed and nothing from Google. I am only having an issue with the one Micro$lop account and it's a glitch with the Micro$lop account, not the phone, OS or Authenticator. That problem is still not resolved, but thankfully it is only of my disposable accounts and if I cannot regain access to it I will just abandon it.