*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Reciever]

On 10/17/2026 at 10:26 AM, jaybee83 said:

hey guys, just wanted to say THANKS for all the years in this community, i know were living in our own small hardware nerd bubble here, but i also know that for most of us its a little release valve, a safe space to just drop out of the often exhausting real ilfe for a moment and be among likeminded absolutely over-the-top insane but in the end harmless and well-meaning peers.

 

no worries, this is not a suicide note or goodbye or anything like that. just a bit of appreciation for y'all and a perspective check for me. dont be sad or angry or frustrated on what uve missed / dont have / uve lost / any pain youve went through. be thankful for what and especially who you have, cherish those little moments, stay curious, allow yourself the chance to just be wrong and learn something new, keep that basic childish wonder as long as you can.

 

cheers guys!

 

PS: and FFS take good care of your 5090s, now especially more than ever! WVPII FTW! 😄 

 

PS2: lemme tag @Reciever and @Hiew  to make sure our NBT stars also get this 😛 

 

On 10/17/2026 at 10:54 AM, electrosoft said:

 

I've often said, and ended posts here, with being thankful to even be in the position to have the ability to purchase and play with some of these toys and high tech items. 

 

I have a nice pile of hardware amassed. Only thing I'm on the lookout for atm is a decently priced set of the G.Skill 6000 CL26 1.40 sticks. I could use a few more NVME drives too but overall I'm good.

 

After the shutdown and demise of NBR, @Reciever and @Hiew picking up the reins and running with it with NBT really let us carve out our corner again and just let it flow. I always like it when a long time member from yore discovers NBT and pokes their head in to say hi!

 

And yeah, the WVPII is definitely a blessing on my 5090 which some say could rise to $10k in the new year as supply dries up. I have yet to have my cable deviate or yell at me yet (I'm running the MSI yellow cable included with the MEG 1600T), but I've got it locked down. 🙂

 

 

 

I just wanted to keep the group together, I enjoy the chats and even sometimes (though I'll never admit it) the arguments that take place. Sometimes they get heated and require a timeout to let people cool off but otherwise I despise the heavy handedness / on the nose bias some other forums or reddit have in terms of moderation. Also have to thank @Aaron44126 for leading the charge on archiving the posts from NBR. It may come time to have that information internet facing into the Forum.

I am a heavy proponent of "The more authority you exert, the less you have" and I try to keep that in the back pocket for moderating here also and in leading my teams at work.

 

 

On 10/17/2026 at 11:10 AM, Hiew said:

Posts like this make my day. I was never part of the NBR crowd myself, but when Reciever asked me to help NBR find a new home, I was happy to jump in. I’m honored you guys have kept NBT as your home all these years.

Thanks for the kind words!

You are henceforth BANNED FOR LIFE. No good deed and all that lol

Honestly ALL infrastructure, planning, software deployment was all built by @Hiew. I may handle how we moderate and deal with escalations but without Hiew this forum would not exist.

 

He's FINALLY starting to get motivated to build donations and/or subs to assist with forum expenses also so we just have to figure out a good time for both of us to pull away from work. Im hoping we get something locked in this year maybe around the holidays.

 

 

 

 

In other news, a friend of a friend got a miship from Amazon for some 9070 XT's, I bought 3 for 575/each and sold one to a colleague. Also ordered another 64GB of sRAM and 512GB of Persistent Memory for my server totalling 1.1TB of useable RAM. Going to try my hand at some larger local models with the 2-3 9070 XT's

Same colleague is trading his R5 3600 + 6700 XT for my 5800X3D that I no longer use so that makes it 3x 9070 XT's for the local AI server. I hate what AI has done to my hobby but I still want to get a working understanding of how to use it. Adapt or Die and all that

[Papusan]

 

Shouldn't they push more of the production back to the US  to avoid the tarrifs? Does this mean we will see even higher prices years forwards for US consumers ? It seems so. Because this ain't normal.

 

HP and Asus are moving PC production back to China as soaring component costs force a rethink

Dell is also weighing a return

 

According to Nikkei Asia, American PC giant HP and Taiwanese consumer electronics firm Asus have already moved some of their manufacturing operations back to China. Another leading PC OEM, Dell, is also said to be evaluating whether to follow suit and shift some of its PC production back to the Asian nation to offset rising component costs.

 

Quite disturbing... Even 5060 class cards ain't holy..

 

[electrosoft]

x870e Hero shipped off for RMA finally to get a model with a non defective LCD ROG display...

 

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A bit disingenuous in comparison, but Nova looks to potentially be a monster gaming chip with up to 33% gains over Arrow Lake and works at 8000 right out of the box but comparing it to a 285k capped at 250w and 6400 memory vs a 270k running 8000+ knocks a little of the glow off this comparison....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-nova-lake-s-28c-with-ddr5-8000-projected-to-deliver-16-to-33-higher-gaming-performance-than-core-ultra-9-285k-with-ddr5-6400

 

Can't wait to see @Talon's Day 1 impressions! 🤣 Did you hold onto any of your 5090s?

 

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5080 pricing is getting slap happy as supply dries up as Nvidia is rumored to be gearing up the 5080 24GB (in theory).....

 

GB SFF 5080, which was a $999 MSRP model (and myself and @Mr. Fox snagged at great pricing) is now $1979.99 "on sale" at Microcenter rapidly going out of stock and not available elsewhere. Normal price is $2379.99.

 

Cheapest 5080 overall actually available is the PNY 5080 is $2199.99 (IE PCPP, click through on available model and it is actually available) from BH....

 

Nvidia delists the 5080 from their own marketplace (following the previous 5090 delisting)

 

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The bubble is real.....the seams are bursting....

 

When this adjusts down, it is going to be brutal....

 

Jensen's current model is unsustainable and instead of balancing and feeding both spectrums properly, he has pushed for maximum output, FOMO and channel stuffing to where companies are sitting on billions of dollars of unrealized hardware deployment, circular financing and this WILL pop.....

 

Is AI here to stay? Absolutely and I am a proponent of it but this sell through model does not have long term viability.

 

 

[Papusan]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

5080 pricing is getting slap happy as supply dries up as Nvidia is rumored to be gearing up the 5080 24GB (in theory).....

 

China need more GPUs for their AI servers. Jensen know they will pay up for 24GB vram. 5080@24GB will be for creators and AI workloads. Not for gamers.

 

 

RTX 5090 smuggling devastates gaming: Micro Center bans graphics card exports and orders plummet by 75% - are they all going to China?

 

Nvidia May Release 24GB RTX 5080 Earlier Than Expected

Nvidia may release a 24GB version of the GeForce RTX 5080 in China before the previously expected launch window, according to ChannelGate. 

 

 It is unclear whether the 24GB version would also replace the 16GB model in other regions. The report focuses on the Chinese market and does not establish that Nvidia plans to discontinue the current card globally. Regional product lineups could differ, but Nvidia has not announced any such plans.

 

The GeForce RTX 5080 24 GB will mean that the RTX 5070 Ti is the most powerful GPU a gamer can buy.

 

[Mr. Fox]

Well, tomorrow (Sunday) Mrs. Fox and I celebrate 40 years of marital bliss. That does not even seem possible. Where did all of the time go? God blessed me with a good one... better than I deserve.

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, tomorrow (Sunday) Mrs. Fox and I celebrate 40 years of marital bliss. That does not even seem possible. Where did all of the time go? God blessed me with a good one... better than I deserve.

 

Just 10 more years, and it will be the 50th anniversary. Congratulations, Brother Fox. Send my best blessings to Mrs. Fox🙂

[Mr. Fox]

 

[electrosoft]

22 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, tomorrow (Sunday) Mrs. Fox and I celebrate 40 years of marital bliss. That does not even seem possible. Where did all of the time go? God blessed me with a good one... better than I deserve.

 

Happy anniversary @Mr. Fox! 40 years is an amazing achievement! Hopefully we'll be tossing out congrats for your 50th! Maybe via a neural link...... 😁

 

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

Decent besides that AI voice over (Irony!)...

 

So much pressure on Nvidia in line with OpenAI. They now have competitors coming for them from all sides with China and Google in housing their own chip designs now and companies, like Apple, opting to train on Google chips instead of  Nvidia hardware for their AI along with others.

 

OpenAI has lost almost 50% of its market share in 4 years as competition heats up. As for Nvidia....

 

Their strong handed tactics really reek of Intel back in the day with smaller companies.

 

The forced outlay (channel stuffing) has to hit a logical wall and I feel like Nvidia is burning the candle at both ends.

 

AMD is furiously coming on strong too along with Intel and Apple integrating neural processing in their CPUs.

 

Now we have the DOJ investigating Nvidia's "no acquisition" acquisitions 

 

Either Nvidia is humbled by a thousand cuts and/or we will end up with some ASIC approaches to LLM and inference that will render the need for Nvidia GPUs null and void aka the cryptoboom.

 

For us lowly end users, the key is finding the optimal moment to dump our 5080s and 5090s for max valuation if that is in play.

 

The scariest part is Nvidia guaranteeing inventory valuation for lending and selling GPUs. That could mean they need to extend the life, and value, of the GB20X chips. It adds another reason to not rush the 6000 series to market anytime soon to combat any potential devaluation. Imagine being a company neck deep in Blackwell hardware sitting in the warehouse from channel stuffing waiting to be deployed when the grid allows it and now here comes the 6000 series....

 

Just don't confuse the bubble popping with AI going away. AI is here to stay and so many viable uses in real world scenarios; it is the future.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

Happy anniversary @Mr. Fox! 40 years is an amazing achievement! Hopefully we'll be tossing out congrats for your 50th! Maybe via a neural link...... 😁

 

 

Decent besides that AI voice over (Irony!)...

 

So much pressure on Nvidia in line with OpenAI. They now have competitors coming for them from all sides with China and Google in housing their own chip designs now and companies, like Apple, opting to train on Google chips instead of  Nvidia hardware for their AI along with others.

 

OpenAI has lost almost 50% of its market share in 4 years as competition heats up. As for Nvidia....

 

Their strong handed tactics really reek of Intel back in the day with smaller companies.

 

The forced outlay (channel stuffing) has to hit a logical wall and I feel like Nvidia is burning the candle at both ends.

 

AMD is furiously coming on strong too along with Intel and Apple integrating neural processing in their CPUs.

 

Now we have the DOJ investigating Nvidia's "no acquisition" acquisitions 

 

Either Nvidia is humbled by a thousand cuts and/or we will end up with some ASIC approaches to LLM and inference that will render the need for Nvidia GPUs null and void aka the cryptoboom.

 

For us lowly end users, the key is finding the optimal moment to dump our 5080s and 5090s for max valuation if that is in play.

 

The scariest part is Nvidia guaranteeing inventory valuation for lending and selling GPUs. That could mean they need to extend the life, and value, of the GB20X chips. It adds another reason to not rush the 6000 series to market anytime soon to combat any potential devaluation. Imagine being a company neck deep in Blackwell hardware sitting in the warehouse from channel stuffing waiting to be deployed when the grid allows it and now here comes the 6000 series....

 

Just don't confuse the bubble popping with AI going away. AI is here to stay and so many viable uses in real world scenarios; it is the future.

 

 

Hopefully we will both be around for the 50th. 

 

I think AI is here to stay. It's useful. I like it and use it. Like anything else, it can be abused and misused for nefarious purposes. It will be. Guaranteed. Probably already has been more than we even know. The same applies to guns, knives and baseball bats. None of them should be outlawed or banned. None of them are bad. Only the people that misuse them are. 

 

I do hope that NVIDIA, memory foundries, and all of their bedfellows will get severely burned financially. I do not need or want to be able sell my GPUs for an insane profit. They should lose value and become obsolete like the rest of the parts inside of a computer do. They should lose value the moment the box it opened. It's wrong and messed up that they sell for so many times more than they are actually worth and I hope that ASIC-type devices and other alternative technologies make them an obsolete poor choice and utterly destroy their marketability to be used for AI just as we saw with crypto. I hope that happens very soon and all of the stock bought up by AI farms get dumped and totally flood the market with millions of 5090 GPUs to make it impossible for new GPUs to be sold for prices near their original MSRP.

 

There are probably millions of them sitting in warehouses that are still in factory-sealed boxes waiting for deployment when facilities go online. It would be awesome if they suddenly lost 75-80% of their value because of getting dumped on the market and NVIDIA couldn't sell any new GPUs because nobody needed to buy new.

[Talon]

On 10/30/2026 at 10:45 AM, electrosoft said:

Can't wait to see @Talon's Day 1 impressions! 🤣 Did you hold onto any of your 5090s?

 

Kept my 5090D HOF XOC because I love the dual power input and I may as well keep a 5090.

 

I also picked up a 5080 Astral before the price hike, thank god. Now that same GPU is $2700 at Microcenter which is just absolutely insanely stupid. I actually still have not opened it yet, been way too busy with work and picking up extra time. 

 

Now I hear a 24gb 5080 is coming and considering returning the 5080 and waiting for that as my secondary card. 

 

I'm still planning on grabbing that Nova Lake day 1 as is tradition lol. 

[Talon]

On 11/1/2026 at 12:40 AM, Mr. Fox said:

Well, tomorrow (Sunday) Mrs. Fox and I celebrate 40 years of marital bliss. That does not even seem possible. Where did all of the time go? God blessed me with a good one... better than I deserve.

 

Congrats Mr. and Mrs. Fox! 

 

I just celebrated 13 years last month.