*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

47 minutes ago, Papusan said:

It seems Azor's former job at Dell gaming division, have big influence on AMD🤮 He is already come a long way make his name in stone at AMD HQ. 

 

Remember what AMD said... No need for a huge cooler or the new 600w Nvidia power connector as Nvidia because we go with a more power efficient GPU design and can cut costs due our engineering  decision for the GPU reference design. And due the lower GPU's TGP we can now do "cost cutting" on the mounting on the GPU cooler. The shorter time each fabric worker spend on each card.... More profits to AMD.

 

On AMD's own Reddit page, nero1338 writes that he tried to make a warranty claim on his Radeon RX 7900 XTX, but that it was denied by AMD, who in an email reply briefly stated that "temperatures are normal". Barely a day after the post was published, an AMD employee contacted the user and wrote that they wanted to examine the graphics card, whereupon nero1338 was asked to send it to AMD's office in Canada.

 

AMD denies warranty case on overheating Radeon RX 7900 XTX

• Graphics card
• yesterday 14:13

 

Users report that their Radeon RX 7900 XTX tops out at 110 degrees, the fan runs high, and performance drops.

 

It is currently not known what AMD is doing to curb the problems and whether they will start accepting RMA cases on the Radeon RX 7900 XTX that uses the company's reference design MBA. Worth noting is that the owner of an RX 7900 XTX does not need to worry about the high temperatures, as the worst that happens is that the clock frequencies are lowered precisely to prevent overheating and that the hardware is damaged.

 

Nice. Just remove the reply/thread from the Hwbot forum and no one know what happened. And no one will know how flawed the validation software can be.

Typical Azor-type denial using the "this is fine" answer for overheating, thermal throttling and product degradation. That response proves a lack of care for the product and the consumer, with the probability of an underlying incentive to shorten the product lifespan in hope that they can sell a replacement when the product fails prematurely. What it fails to contemplate is the probability that unless the consumer is an idiot they won't repeat the horrible decision again and will buy something better from a competitor next time.

[ryan]

found a video comparing amd to intel and nvidia. I was expecting the intel and nvidia setup to be quite a bit faster like 2x. but it really isnt. when the AMD system costs half as much for 20 percent less performance its a tough call.. I'd personally go for a 4090 if money wasnt an issue. 4090ti is what i'd bank on.

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

found a video comparing amd to intel and nvidia. I was expecting the intel and nvidia setup to be quite a bit faster like 2x. but it really isnt. when the AMD system costs half as much for 20 percent less performance its a tough call.. I'd personally go for a 4090 if money wasnt an issue. 4090ti is what i'd bank on.

 

 

No RT on in this comparison.

 

In a raster shoot out the 7900xtx is actually a decent card with ~4080 levels of performance and some of the games that favor AMD put it closer to a 4090 than a 4080.

 

For a pure raster gaming card I'd have no problems using a 7900xtx depending on my preferred games.

 

 

 

[ryan]

Yeah I know I was just throwing it out there. I would still go green as it has DLSS and frame generation in at least a few AAA games. and moving forward it will be more beneficial going green for the extra cash-ola with dlss and FG in question

 

also I see it as relevant because I personally do not see RT as a benefit. more of a liability. cube maps have gotten so good over the years RT will only be worth it when the cost is low

[Papusan]

9 hours ago, Papusan said:

AMD denies warranty case on overheating Radeon RX 7900 XTX

• Graphics card
• yesterday 14:13

 

Users report that their Radeon RX 7900 XTX tops out at 110 degrees, the fan runs high, and performance drops.

 

It is currently not known what AMD is doing to curb the problems and whether they will start accepting RMA cases on the Radeon RX 7900 XTX that uses the company's reference design MBA. Worth noting is that the owner of an RX 7900 XTX does not need to worry about the high temperatures, as the worst that happens is that the clock frequencies are lowered precisely to prevent overheating and that the hardware is damaged.

 

110 °C is certainly the limit of what a chip can be expected to do. The performance is already throttled here, which of course is unacceptable for a card that costs more than 1,000 euros. Unfortunately, our samples have not yet had such high values. Apparently only the MBA designs are affected - regardless of whether they are sold directly by AMD or by a board partner. The cards run off the same assembly line anyway.

 

Nice. Just remove the reply/thread from the Hwbot forum without notice and no one will know what happened. And no one will know how flawed the validation software can be.

What an awful fix..... 

 

" He further explains that the current COVID situation overseas is slowing the process but agrees that a mechanical issue would fall under creating and fulfilling an RMA for consumers. Still, they are also looking into firmware updates to fix isolated incidents where a software fix would be necessary instead of a hardware replacement. "Kevin" also discusses edge heating, the temperature near the edge of the silicon on a GPU, stating that 90° edge temperatures are abnormal, but 70° edge temperatures are nominal.

 

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Temperature Issues Continue To Rise & PowerColor Steps In To Help Consumers

 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5155407_papusan_unigine_heaven___basic_geforce_rtx_3070_11001.76_dx9_marks?recalculate=true

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, Papusan said:

What an awful fix..... 

 

" He further explains that the current COVID situation overseas is slowing the process but agrees that a mechanical issue would fall under creating and fulfilling an RMA for consumers. Still, they are also looking into firmware updates to fix isolated incidents where a software fix would be necessary instead of a hardware replacement. "Kevin" also discusses edge heating, the temperature near the edge of the silicon on a GPU, stating that 90° edge temperatures are abnormal, but 70° edge temperatures are nominal.

 

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Temperature Issues Continue To Rise & PowerColor Steps In To Help Consumers

 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5155407_papusan_unigine_heaven___basic_geforce_rtx_3070_11001.76_dx9_marks?recalculate=true

Well. Hmm. That sucks. Nice response from AMD, too. How reassuring, LOL. Should be interesting to see what kind of software fix is going to take care of what der8auer already proved was a mechanical problem.

[Papusan]

https://hwbot.org/submission/5155542_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___1b_geforce_rtx_3070_3sec_888ms

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5155498_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_rtx_3070_4sec_868ms

[cylix]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-could-cost-799-at-least-10-cheaper-than-cancelled-rtx-4080-12gb

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, cylix said:

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-could-cost-799-at-least-10-cheaper-than-cancelled-rtx-4080-12gb

Still overpriced, and unlikely to sell at that price, but I guess that is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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Interesting info on the top 5 4090 cards. Very damning for ASUS and their sucky warranty service and poor reliability (I know... my surprised look is not on my face about that) is found starting at 6:13.

 

 

[Rage Set]

On 12/28/2022 at 1:16 AM, Papusan said:

Even the high end can be disgusting....

 

AMD Locked Radeon RX 7000 Series Power Play Tables, Limiting Overclocking

 

Overclocking expert @Buildzoid1 on Twitter recently shared a post discussing his frustrations with AMD's overclocking capabilities on the RX 7000 series. Apparently, AMD has locked power play table manipulation on its new GPUs, preventing enthusiasts from customizing power and frequency curves outside their official specifications.

 

Yeah, when I saw this, that was the immediate end of me wanting the 7000 series. Changing the PPT's on AMD cards was one of their saving graces. I didn't need any HW mods on my 6800 XT or 6900 XT, as cooling was the only limiting factor...not power or voltage. One of AMD's secret weapons, now disabled. 

[Rage Set]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Still overpriced, and unlikely to sell at that price, but I guess that is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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Interesting info on the top 5 4090 cards. Very damning for ASUS and their sucky warranty service and poor reliability (I know... my surprised look is not on my face about that) is found starting at 6:13.

 

 

 

Asus just got my board and I am nervous. Who would expect to spend this much money on a mobo or any device and be afraid they would get their warranty rejected based off a scratch? I don't really want to sell the mobo/cpu because I love how many PCIe lanes it has, but I may be forced to do it. 

[cylix]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Still overpriced, and unlikely to sell at that price, but I guess that is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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Interesting info on the top 5 4090 cards. Very damning for ASUS and their sucky warranty service and poor reliability (I know... my surprised look is not on my face about that) is found starting at 6:13.

 

 

Thats why i went with the zotac. Nice card long warranty  and it fits in the case 😆

[Talon]

Finally got around to rebuilding my living room rig with my Z690 Dark yesterday, flashed latest BIOS, but unfortunately still stuck with 7800 CL36 as max stable for my green PCB A-Dies. Might tinker a bit more, but I think it's just where the road ends for me with that board. It could be that if I used my other 13900K I would have better results now as the MC score is lower than my main rig's 74 MC, at least that's what I gather looking at Igor's findings. 

 

https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-13th-gen-raptor-lake-binning-over-500-cpus-tested-part-1-i9-13900k-and-13900kf/6/

 

 

[Raiderman]

6 hours ago, cylix said:

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-could-cost-799-at-least-10-cheaper-than-cancelled-rtx-4080-12gb

 I wouldnt pay $799 for a 4070Ti. That still seams kind of steep for a middle upper level card. Looks like they priced it right below the 7900xt at $899 msrp. Neither one of them are attractive at those prices. Hoping by spring sales will have slumped enough to get a good deal.

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, cylix said:

Thats why i went with the zotac. Nice card long warranty  and it fits in the case 😆

100%. If I were going to buy a 4090 it would be the Zotac Amp Extreme AIRO. I probably would not even bother looking at other options. Short of that option, it would be an MSI GPU. I would end up wanting to block it for sure, but I think Zotac also has the best aesthetic of all of the air cooled options. The ASUS trash is overpriced and the warranty service too shoddy and shady to even consider it, and the Gigabutt options are pretty lackluster and I think theirs are uglier than any other GPUs except for the gaudiness of the Galax HOF (hard to match tacky looking tech on that order of magnitude). I think I would just save $400-$600+ and settle for a PNY 4090 XLR8 before I would give my money/scalp to the goons at ASUS or Gigabutt.

[cylix]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

100%. If I were going to buy a 4090 it would be the Zotac Amp Extreme AIRO. I probably would not even bother looking at other options. Short of that option, it would be an MSI GPU. I would end up wanting to block it for sure, but I think Zotac also has the best aesthetic of all of the air cooled options. The ASUS trash is overpriced and the warranty service too shoddy and shady to even consider it, and the Gigabutt options are pretty lackluster and I think theirs are uglier than any other GPUs except for the gaudiness of the Galax HOF (hard to match tacky looking tech on that order of magnitude). I think I would just save $400-$600+ and settle for a PNY 4090 XLR8 before I would give my money/scalp to the goons at ASUS or Gigabutt.

Yes i am really happy i got the zotac. Its fits well in my case with the corsair 12vhpwr cable. Also there's is almost no coil whine and the fans are quiet.  Temps are good got like 65 degree at 450w power draw. The form is also good looking.

 

[tps3443]

I finally ordered some Koolance quick release fittings! I’m so excited to get them. 
 

I went with the male G1/4 quick release models that screw right in to the water block directly. And also the female 10/16 compression style will go right on my tubing. 
 

So they will hook up kinda like an impact gun, and an air hose lol.

 

I ordered these for my Supercool direct die waterblock. I’ll be able to quickly remove it without much effort. I’m gonna add some to my GPU next, then my radiator, then my chiller, and even my water pumps lol. 

I figure it would be so nice to quickly be able to remove tubes and components without draining any water. It is expensive for (4) fittings which will cover only (1) component. 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

Yeah, when I saw this, that was the immediate end of me wanting the 7000 series. Changing the PPT's on AMD cards was one of their saving graces. I didn't need any HW mods on my 6800 XT or 6900 XT, as cooling was the only limiting factor...not power or voltage. One of AMD's secret weapons, now disabled. 

 

They keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and dig themselves in lower and lower. From the massive oversell to the issues to the purposeful limiting I'm kind of at a loss with AMD this time around.....

 

Double glad I cancelled my 7900xtx order from BB.

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

100%. If I were going to buy a 4090 it would be the Zotac Amp Extreme AIRO. I probably would not even bother looking at other options. Short of that option, it would be an MSI GPU. I would end up wanting to block it for sure, but I think Zotac also has the best aesthetic of all of the air cooled options. The ASUS trash is overpriced and the warranty service too shoddy and shady to even consider it, and the Gigabutt options are pretty lackluster and I think theirs are uglier than any other GPUs except for the gaudiness of the Galax HOF (hard to match tacky looking tech on that order of magnitude). I think I would just save $400-$600+ and settle for a PNY 4090 XLR8 before I would give my money/scalp to the goons at ASUS or Gigabutt.

 

4090 definitely cheap as possible. $1599.99 model especially with silicon lottery in play and the subpar performances of the Suprim Liquid X 4090 reported here by @Papusan and @johnksss.

 

Still hoping I can snag one off of BB before this 10% coupon expires. Any $1599.99 model will do but it isn't looking promising. 😞

 

 

4080 FE @ 1079.99 is ready for pickup (with rewards $1024.99 + tax). I'll let it sit there till after the new year.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

4090 definitely cheap as possible. $1599.99 model especially with silicon lottery in play and the subpar performances of the Suprim Liquid X 4090 reported here by @Papusan and @johnksss.

 

Still hoping I can snag one off of BB before this 10% coupon expires. Any $1599.99 model will do but it isn't looking promising. 😞

If you really want one, I saw the PNY 4090 at TigerDirect Business for $1600 a day or two ago. It was tempting, but I managed to avoid it. 

[Papusan]

On 11/26/2022 at 2:28 AM, Papusan said:

I also bought the same monitor as my son (ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitor). 

Got the confirmation today. The refund have come from the MSI 4090 I sent back. Sent it in 18. Dec and it took 11 days. So all good. Now the hunt is started again after a new 4090.

 

As from my post above... I have still the ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ monitor in the package. A very good monitor from what I have seen in reviews. I have a few questions to the gamers... @Talon @electrosoft @johnksss

 

This monitor I bought is an G-sync compatible. Not a real G-sync screen with the nvidia chips. I will pair it with an 4090. Is 1440P ok to use with the card or do I need a 4K screen to have benefits from 4090? Is 4090 overkill for 1440P? I expect newer games at 1440P 3 years down the road will tax 4090 more than with todays games. 

 

I feel 1440P may be the better choice for me. And above 30" is too big. Hence the questions. 

 

If you suggest 4K screen at 27-28", what screen to buy and with come with full G-sync.

 

What 1440P 27-28" screen to select with full G-synk. Not only G-sync compatible.

 

And of course refresh Rate at minimum 144Hz. Faster is better especially with 1440P. 

 

Or maybe you suggest that I keep the monitor I already bought. Got it for a very good deal... 449$ included the awful Norwegian tax. The price would be around 340$ without the taxes. I mean this a very great price. But lack full G-sync.

 

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Second. I returned my MSI 4090 liquid X. I really liked the card, but prefer air cooling for a fast swap between different cards (my hobby). What to select.

 

Not much choices of 4090 here home. And FE is a no go. Hence I'll ask for 3 options you would vote for. Not so sure the Zotac boat is the design I want. But put it in if you feel to do that. The best cooling is important. 

 

Thanks.

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If you really want one, I saw the PNY 4090 at TigerDirect Busineasor $1600 a day or two ago. It was tempting, but I managed to avoid it. 

 

I'm still holding onto hope to get one in before the 1st (long-shot.com)

 

But then there's this too:

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Got the confirmation today. The refund have come from the MSI 4090 I sent back. Sent it in 18. Dec and it took 11 days. So all good. Now the hunt is started again after a new 4090.

 

As from my post above... I have still the ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ monitor in the package. A very good monitor from what I have seen in reviews. I have a few questions to the gamers... @Talon @electrosoft @johnksss

 

This monitor I bought is an G-sync compatible. Not a real G-sync screen with the nvidia chips. I will pair it with an 4090. Is 1440P ok to use with the card or do I need a 4K screen to have benefits from 4090? Is 4090 overkill for 1440P? I expect newer games at 1440P 3 years down the road will tax 4090 more than with todays games. 

 

I feel 1440P may be the better choice for me. And above 30" is too big. Hence the questions. 

 

If you suggest 4K screen at 27-28", what screen to buy and with come with full G-sync.

 

What 1440P 27-28" screen to select with full G-synk. Not only G-sync compatible.

 

And of course refresh Rate at minimum 144Hz. Faster is better especially with 1440P. 

 

Or maybe you suggest that I keep the monitor I already bought. Got it for a very good deal... 449$ included the awful Norwegian tax. The price would be around 340$ without the taxes. I mean this a very great price. But lack full G-sync.

 

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Second. I returned my MSI 4090 liquid X. I really liked the card, but prefer air cooling for a fast swap between different cards (my hobby). What to select.

 

Not much choices of 4090 here home. And FE is a no go. Hence I'll ask for 3 options you would vote for. Not so sure the Zotac boat is the design I want. But put it in if you feel to do that. The best cooling is important. 

 

Thanks.

4K is nice with a big screen and 100% scaling. Only sucks on smaller screens and with scaling ovee 100%. But, I really like 1440p and that is a very good monitor you have. I think the G-Sync is a gimmick if your framerate is as fast or faster than the refreshrate above 120Hz. I doubt you would be able to tell a difference. I can't and have never been able to. I would say it boils down to deciding what you want to do and just do it because you want to. I suspect you will be happy either way. You will adjust (eyes and brain) to the new resolution and it will become the new normal in a few days. 

 

Although they are 1080p, I really like my curved monitors in a triple-wide array. It look me a short time to adjust to the curve, but going forward  I only plan to purchase curved monitors. Especially nice with two or three because they will fit in a smaller space width-wise and once you adjust it is easier on your eyes and more ergonomically pleasing. If they were flat, I would not be able to fit the triple-screen setup on my desk. It would overhang the sides too much and interfere with placement of other things, including my mid-tower case on the right side and tall cabinet on the left side. Edge-to-edge is 54 inches. If they were flat the same array would be 63 inches wide. Huge difference in the amount of space flat panels would require and they would be harder to use for 10-12 hours per day.

  

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

But then there's this too:

I noticed the delayed ship time, but also "free shipping today" and wasn't sure which was accurate. But, I'd be fine with waiting if it meant spending $300-$500 less and the shipping was free. It would give me time to sell other things to help stop the hemorrhaging of my wallet before I got billed for the frivolous self-indulgence.

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Got the confirmation today. The refund have come from the MSI 4090 I sent back. Sent it in 18. Dec and it took 11 days. So all good. Now the hunt is started again after a new 4090.

 

As from my post above... I have still the ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ monitor in the package. A very good monitor from what I have seen in reviews. I have a few questions to the gamers... @Talon @electrosoft @johnksss

 

This monitor I bought is an G-sync compatible. Not a real G-sync screen with the nvidia chips. I will pair it with an 4090. Is 1440P ok to use with the card or do I need a 4K screen to have benefits from 4090? Is 4090 overkill for 1440P? I expect newer games at 1440P 3 years down the road will tax 4090 more than with todays games. 

 

I feel 1440P may be the better choice for me. And above 30" is too big. Hence the questions. 

 

If you suggest 4K screen at 27-28", what screen to buy and with come with full G-sync.

 

What 1440P 27-28" screen to select with full G-synk. Not only G-sync compatible.

 

And of course refresh Rate at minimum 144Hz. Faster is better especially with 1440P. 

 

Or maybe you suggest that I keep the monitor I already bought. Got it for a very good deal... 449$ included the awful Norwegian tax. The price would be around 340$ without the taxes. I mean this a very great price. But lack full G-sync.

 

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Second. I returned my MSI 4090 liquid X. I really liked the card, but prefer air cooling for a fast swap between different cards (my hobby). What to select.

 

Not much choices of 4090 here home. And FE is a no go. Hence I'll ask for 3 options you would vote for. Not so sure the Zotac boat is the design I want. But put it in if you feel to do that. The best cooling is important. 

 

Thanks.

 

 

For a standard 2560x1440 170hz screen, 4090 is going to run into some CPU bottlenecks from time to time but frame rates will never be a problem for quite a long time and it will grow with several generations of CPUs till equilibrium is established. Specs wise, that looks like a really nice display.

 

A 4090 will be situational overkill till with time it isn't. You will outlast your warranty before the 4090 becomes the problem.

 

I used to say high refresh gaming was overrated but like I said before using my wife's 60hz old school 30" HP display (which I used for years) is painful now after using this 5120x1440 144hz display. Even switching back to my BenQ 4k 60hz G-sync display is noticeable. That chunk is nails on the chalkboard. I've turned into THAT gamer now (hangs head in shame).

 

In order of 4090 cards now non FE:

 

MSI Gaming Trio 4090 (Non OC edition) $1599 USD

Gigabyte Windforce 4090 (Non OC edition) $1599 USD

Asus Tuf 4090 (non OC  edition) $1599 USD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

4K is nice with a big screen and 100% scaling. Only sucks on smaller screens and with scaling ovee 100%. But, I really like 1440p and that is a very good monitor you have. I think the G-Sync is a gimmick if your framerate is as fast or faster than the refreshrate above 120Hz. I doubt you would be able to tell a difference. I can't and have never been able to. I would say it boils down to deciding what you want to do and just do it because you want to. I suspect you will be happy either way. You will adjust (eyes and brain) to the new resolution and it will become the new normal in a few days. 

Thanks. I want G-sync, to be able to sell it later in the used market. Easier to sell it for a good price. I buy new tech people want in the used market to reduce the loss. And I doubt I will save much money without it. I think 1440P is perfect. I have put up my sons system with the same monitor (we both bough the same due me wanted it and got the great deal). And jup, my son just had to listening on old pa, LOOL. And I really really like it. But then, he bought the weaker 3070 and not an 4090. I struggle to find monitors above 170hz in 1440P with or without G-sync. And most of the reviews of gaming monitors is with G-sync. Very high refresh monitors is mostly 1080P. And I won't go back to this. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Although they are 1080p, I really like my curved monitors in a triple-wide array. It look me a short time to adjust to the curve, but going forward  I only plan to purchase curved monitors. Especially nice with 2 or three because they will fit in a smaller space width-wise and once you adjust it is easier on your eyes and more ergonomically pleasing. If they were flat, I would not be able to fit the triple-screen setup on my desk. It would overhang the sides too much and interfere with placement of other things, including my mid-tower case on the right side and tall cabinet on the left side. Edge-to-edge is 54 inches. If they were flat the same array would be 63 inches wide. Huge difference in the amount of space flat panels would require and they would be harder to use for 10-12 hours per day.

I hate curved screeens. I really really do. And the curved monitors with the special low but long design is awful. Have tested those in the shops. Huge nope from me. 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

For a standard 2560x1440 170hz screen, 4090 is going to run into some CPU bottlenecks from time to time but frame rates will never be a problem for quite a long time and it will grow with several generations of CPUs till equilibrium is established. Specs wise, that looks like a really nice display.

 

A 4090 will be situational overkill till with time it isn't. You will outlast your warranty before the 4090 becomes the problem.

Thanks.

 

I asked because many reviews say 4090 is a waste with 1440P. But I prefer monitors below 30" in size and 4K is probably worse to look at due my old eyes. Can't have everything in this world. 4K and easy to see all text. Even smaller details (in pict) etc will be a problem. 

 

 

Here is the different G-Sync screens Nvidia have on their page.... https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/

 

Me want only 27-29" and with G-sync and maximum high refresh at 1440P (4K). If I swap out the 1440P I have now it has to be with real G-sync or and with higher refresh rate. Same for 4K screen but minimum 144hz and  real G-sync. If I can't reach those goals I will keep what I bought. And if the other monitor options will be too expensive then I will as well keep what I bought. 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

In order of 4090 cards now non FE:

 

MSI Gaming Trio 4090 (Non OC edition) $1599 USD

Gigabyte Windforce 4090 (Non OC edition) $1599 USD

Asus Tuf 4090 (non OC  edition) $1599 USD

Why non OC editions? Due the price? I like to thinker with performance, maybe not the best options for me then. And I won't save much money here home between non OC and the OC editions.