*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Raiderman]

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

They probably got in a hurry and never scanned it when it left NewEgg. I have seen that with USPS, UPS and FedEx and sometimes it never changes until delivery when they do that. It will flip from "label created" to "delivered" on the same day. Try searching USPS (yes, not a typo) for the UPS tracking number and see what it shows. And, don't be surprised if it shows "delivered" when all they did was hand it off to USPS for final delivery. That has happened to me several times and it is usually delivered by USPS the next business day.  Sometimes the UPS Mail Innovations tracking number will work on the USPS tracking page.

  

 

 USPS "currently awaiting for package"...haha they have until tomorrow. Never been this disappointed with Newegg. Ordered on the 19th, supposedly shipped on the 21st. I have always received my orders in 3 to 4 business days, with full tracking available. This is stupid.

[Reciever]

8 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

 USPS "currently awaiting for package"...haha they have until tomorrow. Never been this disappointed with Newegg. Ordered on the 19th, supposedly shipped on the 21st. I have always received my orders in 3 to 4 business days, with full tracking available. This is stupid.

Sounds like you are getting the Amazon treatment I usually get. 

[jaybee83]

aha! after 3 days of fiddling around i finally figured out what the culprit is with regards to high RAM OC stability in windows: the cpu imc! lets see how much it can handle, i bumped it by 20 mV today and voila, finally passing stress tests at 7600 Mhz 😃 (although im already pretty much redlining it at 1.58 V now 😅) no idea if i can get 7800, let alone 8000 stable though, so lets see, step by step...

in any case, this is a relief, if it had been the mobo then that would suck, way more expensive snd difficult to replace than the cpu or ram modules haha.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

 USPS "currently awaiting for package"...haha they have until tomorrow. Never been this disappointed with Newegg. Ordered on the 19th, supposedly shipped on the 21st. I have always received my orders in 3 to 4 business days, with full tracking available. This is stupid.

That's really disappointing, but it is UPS's mickey mouse arrangement with USPS. Not NewEgg's fault per se, other than allowing it to be selected as an option for shipping. It's good that the UPS tracking number works on USPS though.

41 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

aha! after 3 days of fiddling around i finally figured out what the culprit is with regards to high RAM OC stability in windows: the cpu imc! lets see how much it can handle, i bumped it by 20 mV today and voila, finally passing stress tests at 7600 Mhz 😃 (although im already pretty much redlining it at 1.58 V now 😅) no idea if i can get 7800, let alone 8000 stable though, so lets see, step by step...

in any case, this is a relief, if it had been the mobo then that would suck, way more expensive snd difficult to replace than the cpu or ram modules haha.

Even if it is a weak CPU sample you've made tremendous progress over where you started. Yes, it is good that it is not the mobo.

 

I don't remember what channel it was on, but I saw a YouTube video the other day about the wide variance and inconsistency AMD is struggling with on silicon quality. This is not something I have seen mentioned much in AMD circles, even though it is frequently a source of discussion and complaint when the subject is Intel. Maybe they've not heard of the silicon lottery and the concept is new to them.

[Raiderman]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

aha! after 3 days of fiddling around i finally figured out what the culprit is with regards to high RAM OC stability in windows: the cpu imc! lets see how much it can handle, i bumped it by 20 mV today and voila, finally passing stress tests at 7600 Mhz 😃 (although im already pretty much redlining it at 1.58 V now 😅) no idea if i can get 7800, let alone 8000 stable though, so lets see, step by step...

in any case, this is a relief, if it had been the mobo then that would suck, way more expensive snd difficult to replace than the cpu or ram modules haha.

How much was that Asus MB? I think my MSI was around $500. I seem to have a fairly good 7950x sample, as it can be benched all cores negative 30 voltage curve. I can get near 40K on CB 23. I am also able to run my 6000mhz ram at 6400mhz @34 36 36 36, 1-1

[jaybee83]

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

How much was that Asus MB? I think my MSI was around $500. I seem to have a fairly good 7950x sample, as it can be benched all cores negative 30 voltage curve. I can get near 40K on CB 23. I am also able to run my 6000mhz ram at 6400mhz @34 36 36 36, 1-1

 

i got it instantly when it came out, 1150€ after rebate.... lulz 😛 point being, im gonna stick with it until the very last AM5 compatible cpu gen is out 😄 

dunno the overall SL on my 7950X yet, havent played around with it much. started off with the 4090, then moved on to RAM. cpu will likely be the last one im tuning. cpu and ram both bench stable or 24/7 stable? im always going for the latter since im using my machine for work, as well. impressive specs tho 🙂 my previous 6600 sticks could only do 6200-34-37-37-19 in gear 1. but that might also go back to the bad IMC haha.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

How much was that Asus MB? I think my MSI was around $500. I seem to have a fairly good 7950x sample, as it can be benched all cores negative 30 voltage curve. I can get near 40K on CB 23. I am also able to run my 6000mhz ram at 6400mhz @34 36 36 36, 1-1

 

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

i got it instantly when it came out, 1150€ after rebate.... lulz 😛 point being, im gonna stick with it until the very last AM5 compatible cpu gen is out 😄 

dunno the overall SL on my 7950X yet, havent played around with it much. started off with the 4090, then moved on to RAM. cpu will likely be the last one im tuning. cpu and ram both bench stable or 24/7 stable? im always going for the latter since im using my machine for work, as well. impressive specs tho 🙂 my previous 6600 sticks could only do 6200-34-37-37-19 in gear 1. but that might also go back to the bad IMC haha.

It could also be the motherboard. Case in point was the ASUS Z690 Apex. The first revision of it was pure garbage, second revision much better but still inferior to the MSI Z690 Unify-X and Z690 Dark. In spite of its conceptually superior 2-DIMM offering, ASUS didn't actually have a good overall memory overclocking product until the Z790 Apex. ASUS has a real talent for screwing their customers that spent the most money... *frowns at ludicrously overpriced and overhyped Strix 4090 dungheap*

[Izy]

this cpu is going places -35mv UV in ghelper

timespy could be better, if only i could turn off HT on this, also still is still on the stock 4800mhz ram, once my hynix a chips come from overseas may see improvements.


 

[Mr. Fox]

OK, so I finally decided to get a 4K screen to replace my triple 1080p monitor setup that I use for work. I got one of these from Provantage "like new" open box for $318. Grand total under $350 including tax and shipping. 4K IPS 144Hz 1ms HDR and G-Stink at that price seems kind of hard to beat. Normal price is like ~$600.

 

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27uqr-model/

 

  

14 hours ago, Papusan said:

Hard tube loop…. Trash

Did you reply to the wrong post? That comment doesn't seem like it is related to the quoted post.

[Mr. Fox]

Well, I finally sat down and took the time to redo my AIDA64 Sensor Panel for my mini-1080p monitor in portrait orientation. Should be really easy to see what is going on with the things I care about in huge fonts and taking up that entire screen.

 

 

[kojack]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK, so I finally decided to get a 4K screen to replace my triple 1080p monitor setup that I use for work. I got one of these from Provantage "like new" open box for $318. Grand total under $350 including tax and shipping. 4K IPS 144Hz 1ms HDR and G-Stink at that price seems kind of hard to beat. Normal price is like ~$600.

 

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27uqr-model/

 

  

Did you reply to the wrong post? That comment doesn't seem like it is related to the quoted post.

You going to miss the real estate you are giving up?

[jaybee83]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK, so I finally decided to get a 4K screen to replace my triple 1080p monitor setup that I use for work. I got one of these from Provantage "like new" open box for $318. Grand total under $350 including tax and shipping. 4K IPS 144Hz 1ms HDR and G-Stink at that price seems kind of hard to beat. Normal price is like ~$600.

 

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27uqr-model/

 

  

Did you reply to the wrong post? That comment doesn't seem like it is related to the quoted post.

 

kool man, welcome to the 4K club. do you see a discernible difference in pixelation / resolution? i for one think theres a world of difference between 1080p and 4K 🙂 

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, I finally sat down and took the time to redo my AIDA64 Sensor Panel for my mini-1080p monitor in portrait orientation. Should be really easy to see what is going on with the things I care about in huge fonts and taking up that entire screen.

 

 

 

nice, im still thinking back and forth whether or not i should go the mini sensor panel route for AIDA readouts... plan would be to install the screen inside the case. do you see any performance differences with that sensor panel installed? i mean, its 1080p pixels more to render for the GPU, after all 😄 

 

2 hours ago, kojack said:

You going to miss the real estate you are giving up?

 

maybe hes slowly building up to a 3x 4K setup 😛 😄 

[Papusan]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

OK, so I finally decided to get a 4K screen to replace my triple 1080p monitor setup that I use for work. I got one of these from Provantage "like new" open box for $318. Grand total under $350 including tax and shipping. 4K IPS 144Hz 1ms HDR and G-Stink at that price seems kind of hard to beat. Normal price is like ~$600.

 

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-xg27uqr-model/

 

  

Did you reply to the wrong post? That comment doesn't seem like it is related to the quoted post.

Sorry. Im on a phone and same time in very bad health. So difficult post correct. I saw the video about the difficulty with water cooling and changes.
 

Stilll…. Hard tubing is trash. Soft tubing is king 🙂
 

Edit. I also sent you an private message. 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, kojack said:

You going to miss the real estate you are giving up?

I may. Already thinking about that and almost cancelled the order last night. Technically it's not less space, but it is more compact and less organized. I plan to use 100% scaling. I hope I don't regret it. I also thought about cancelling it again this morning.

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

kool man, welcome to the 4K club. do you see a discernible difference in pixelation / resolution? i for one think theres a world of difference between 1080p and 4K 🙂 

 

nice, im still thinking back and forth whether or not i should go the mini sensor panel route for AIDA readouts... plan would be to install the screen inside the case. do you see any performance differences with that sensor panel installed? i mean, its 1080p pixels more to render for the GPU, after all 😄 

 

maybe hes slowly building up to a 3x 4K setup 😛 😄 

Thank you. My main idea here was to reclaim part of my physical desktop space without giving up any virtual desktop space. Three 24-inch screens consumes an entire desk and then some. The idea of doing it to improve on-screen picture quality was not a consideration.

 

My only past experience with 4K computer screens was always miserable because it involved laptop screens that were too small to benefit from the full resolution at 100% scaling. Reading such tiny text was always incredibly miserable. My 2560x1440 165Hz display is also 27-inch. It is the ideal resolution. Debating with myself now if I should try to squeeze it in the middle so it is flanked by dual 1080p and use the 4K on my benching rig. This would totally defeat my original intent and make it slightly worse. I use all three screens at least 40-50 hours a week for work. Although 3840x2160 is more screen space than 1920x1080*3, it is like having one big open room with everything in it instead of several smaller, but very organized rooms.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Sorry. Im on a phone and same time in very bad health. So difficult post correct. I saw the video about the difficulty with water cooling and changes.
 

Stilll…. Hard tubing is trash. Soft tubing is king 🙂
 

Edit. I also sent you an private message. 

Sorry to hear you are having difficulty in the heatwave. Not being able to breathe must be miserable and scary. Is it more difficult than breathing in the frozen Norway winter air? I will keep you in my prayers, brother.

[Papusan]

37 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I may. Already thinking about that and almost cancelled the order last night. Technically it's not less space, but it is more compact and less organized. I plan to use 100% scaling. I hope I don't regret it. I also thought about cancelling it again this morning.

Thank you. My main idea here was to reclaim part of my physical desktop space without giving up any virtual desktop space. Three 24-inch screens consumes an entire desk and then some. The idea of doing it to improve on-screen picture quality was not a consideration.

 

My only past experience with 4K computer screens was always miserable because it involved laptop screens that were too small to benefit from the full resolution at 100% scaling. Reading such tiny text was always incredibly miserable. My 2560x1440 165Hz display is also 27-inch. It is the ideal resolution. Debating with myself now if I should try to squeeze it in the middle so it is flanked by dual 1080p and use the 4K on my benching rig. This would totally defeat my original intent and make it slightly worse. I use all three screens at least 40-50 hours a week for work. Although 3840x2160 is more screen space than 1920x1080*3, it is like having one big open room with everything in it instead of several smaller, but very organized rooms.

Sorry to hear you are having difficulty in the heatwave. Not being able to breathe must be miserable and scary. Is it more difficult than breathing in the frozen Norway winter air? I will keep you in my prayers, brother.

Home l can fix temperature with an oven. Here l have nothing. Only a fan. Last year we had access to air cooling. Now only a fan 😞 35C inside is awful. And this isn’t what I’m used to. 20C is the norm home. 
 

When you can’t control this and temp even go higher im screwed. And only 35-40 % remaining lung capacity doesn’t help with this. I don’t know what to do now. They can’t fix me an portable AC. Life sometimes sucks. Exactly as jokeboks. I hate it!

[kojack]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I may. Already thinking about that and almost cancelled the order last night. Technically it's not less space, but it is more compact and less organized. I plan to use 100% scaling. I hope I don't regret it. I also thought about cancelling it again this morning.

Thank you. My main idea here was to reclaim part of my physical desktop space without giving up any virtual desktop space. Three 24-inch screens consumes an entire desk and then some. The idea of doing it to improve on-screen picture quality was not a consideration.

 

My only past experience with 4K computer screens was always miserable because it involved laptop screens that were too small to benefit from the full resolution at 100% scaling. Reading such tiny text was always incredibly miserable. My 2560x1440 165Hz display is also 27-inch. It is the ideal resolution. Debating with myself now if I should try to squeeze it in the middle so it is flanked by dual 1080p and use the 4K on my benching rig. This would totally defeat my original intent and make it slightly worse. I use all three screens at least 40-50 hours a week for work. Although 3840x2160 is more screen space than 1920x1080*3, it is like having one big open room with everything in it instead of several smaller, but very organized rooms.

Sorry to hear you are having difficulty in the heatwave. Not being able to breathe must be miserable and scary. Is it more difficult than breathing in the frozen Norway winter air? I will keep you in my prayers, brother.

You can always order a second one.  use a mount like I have.  Works awesome.  I have my entire desk with 2 24's on them.  I am going to move to 2 27" monitors asap.  Might even be the new studio monitors if I like the Mac Mini?  ewww.  ha ha.  

[cylix]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Home l can fix temperature with an oven. Here l have nothing. Only a fan. Last year we had access to air cooling. Now only a fan 😞 35C inside is awful. And this isn’t what I’m used to. 20C is the norm home. 
 

When you can’t control this and temp even go higher im screwed. And only 35-40 % remaining lung capacity doesn’t help with this. I don’t know what to do now. They can’t fix me an portable AC. Life sometimes sucks. Exactly as jokeboks. I hate it!

Oh, that Sound awful...Can't  you buy like a mobile AC unit or some kind of powerful fan? Put some cold wet towels in front of the fan that will  work better as only the fan.

 

Intel going back to the greedy ways..

https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-14th-gen-cpus-are-set-to-receive-a-price-hike/

[jaybee83]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Home l can fix temperature with an oven. Here l have nothing. Only a fan. Last year we had access to air cooling. Now only a fan 😞 35C inside is awful. And this isn’t what I’m used to. 20C is the norm home. 
 

When you can’t control this and temp even go higher im screwed. And only 35-40 % remaining lung capacity doesn’t help with this. I don’t know what to do now. They can’t fix me an portable AC. Life sometimes sucks. Exactly as jokeboks. I hate it!

 

1 hour ago, cylix said:

Oh, that Sound awful...Can't  you buy like a mobile AC unit or some kind of powerful fan? Put some cold wet towels in front of the fan that will  work better as only the fan.

 

Intel going back to the greedy ways..

https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-14th-gen-cpus-are-set-to-receive-a-price-hike/

 

huh, why so difficult to get an AC room bud? should be standard at such a holiday destination no?

 

and yeah saw the same for 14th gen. lets see if this holds true, wouldnt make any sense whatsoever with AMD being such strong competition. and those 3% more perf aint gonna make much difference in direct comparison...

still! keeping an eye out for the 14900K for my lady's machine, brother Prema can surely fiddle something together there 😋

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, cylix said:

 

Intel going back to the greedy ways..

https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-14th-gen-cpus-are-set-to-receive-a-price-hike/

 

Tom's being so optimistic for 13th gen price drops:

 

"As the new chips differ little from current 13th Gen chips — apart from that i7 e-core count increase and higher clock speeds, it'll be well worth keeping an eye out for 13th Gen bargains. "

 

But if Intel goes all Intel as always, they will just keep 13th gen priced as is (or a slight drop) and slot in the pricier 14th gen right above it. If something like this happened, expect 13th gen to start experiencing meteorically bad bins as all the decent chips get pushed to 14th gen.

 

 

[Papusan]

Thanks  all. Im close to give up. Last year I had AC here. But not now. Why so… I don’t kn

[jaybee83]

20 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Thanks  all. Im close to give up. Last year I had AC here. But not now. Why so… I don’t kn

nnnooooo dont give up on your one month vacation! no big malls around where u could get some mobile AC unit?

 

btw gaiz, happy to report that ddr5-7800 is stable! now continuing with 8000 and trying to get 8200 to boot 😁

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

nnnooooo dont give up on your one month vacation! no big malls around where u could get some mobile AC unit?

 

btw gaiz, happy to report that ddr5-7800 is stable! now continuing with 8000 and trying to get 8200 to boot 😁

Nothing for now. I should have learned from last year 😞

[KING19]

On 8/27/2023 at 1:42 AM, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

But, isn't it a double standard to celebrate when AMD produces a "fake framerate" tool when so many were about to pop a vein hating on NVIDIA for doing exactly the same thing? It guess it makes "fake frames" OK if it is not proprietary and works on any GPU. I guess that's the world we live in now. It's obvious in lots of area in our private, public and political lives. The rules only apply to the people you don't like and it's OK to make stuff up as you go and twist the rules if it is someone you don't like, LOL.

 

For the record, I wasn't one of the haters and I always thought it was kind of silly hating on NVIDIA for it. I think it's nice that now everyone can take part in celebration of fake framerates. Maybe it will do enough to eek a couple more years of our GPUs too old and weak to game at a decent framerate without it.

  

Technically, there wasn't any reason before now either.  But, I think if people can use it to avoid spending money on a GPU upgrade it's a good thing.

 

I think the title of that video is just clickbait. "Destroy NVIDIA" how? It won't make any GPU faster or slower. What it will do is change the way the graphic workload is rendered so that older and/or weaker GPUs will struggle less and produce less of a slideshow. And, it will likewise make the fastest GPUs have higher framerates as well. But, they won't be any faster.

 

That wasnt the main problem at all, The main problem was that DLSS 3/Frame Gen was only available for 40 Series GPUs meanwhile 20 and 30 Series GPUs was left out in the cold by NVIDIA especially those who waited a while to buy  overpriced 30 series GPUs because of the GPU shortage. Most people cant afford to buy the latest tech every year.

 

The video itself is clickbait, We know that AMD will never beat NVIDIA as they're always 2 or 3 steps behind but however its still a good thing that AMD made a feature that NVIDIA should of made available to their older GPUs. Frame Gen/DLSS does invite a new problem especially the latest games, Instead of going by a GPU's raw performance in the system requirements they go by having DLSS/FSR/Frame Generation turned on and it also hides the truth that games are becoming more badly optimized than ever before that you have to have those features turn on to get playable framerates. Games like Forspoken, Hogwart's Legacy, The Last of US and etc are good examples. Also its funny that games requires a crazy amount of VRAM in order to run them on 1080p and 1440p when games havent improved graphics wise in years. I know turning on RT increases VRAM usage but even with it off it still uses a lot of VRAM even on High settings.

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, kojack said:

You can always order a second one.  use a mount like I have.  Works awesome.  I have my entire desk with 2 24's on them.  I am going to move to 2 27" monitors asap.  Might even be the new studio monitors if I like the Mac Mini?  ewww.  ha ha.  

I already have a 3-monitor desk mount with three  curved AOC 1080p 144Hz IPS 24-inchers, but large enough for three 27's. But that would defeat the purpose of buying it. Which was/is to free up desk space without massively sacrificing screen real estate. Three 24-inch monitors is wider than a normal desk. It looks, feels and is very cramped in my tiny office. Will see how it goes. It shipped already early this morning.

[Raiderman]

Welp, today was the final day for my 8000mhz ram to be delivered, and guess what ....ya, you guessed it, a no show. Now I have to file a claim with Newegg for a lost package, that looks to me like it was never shipped. 🤬 Now another 5 to 7 business days for them to resolve my claim....what a joke. I could be losing sleep right now trying to hit 8000 MHz....smdh

@Papusansorry bro about the yuck you are going through. I hate the heat too. 35c here in Idaho today.

 

@Mr. FoxIt takes a degree in trigonometry to know if the human eye can distinguish between 1080p, and 4K. Viewing angle, pixel pitch, distance from the screen ....blah, blah.. I myself believe it's marketing BS. I cannot tell the difference between 1080, 1440, 4K. My eyes can however, see the difference in low refresh rate screens. 60hz and lower flickers like a florescent bulb.

https://www.techspot.com/article/1113-4k-monitor-see-difference/