*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, Papusan said:

You can also blame PCI-Sig and the engineers for this. They could have done a better job. And they didn’t have to make the power connector so damn tiny. They could have pushed nvidia to accept a slightly bigger 12+4 power connector. 50% bigger would have made a big difference paired with better and more secure design. A more heavy hook and latch with the same tiny designed connector that locks the connection would also help. You can barely hear the locking. Sometimes you don’t even hear it. 

Yup, bigger and they could have even put a thumb screw on each side like an old VGA or serial port connector. Or, even better had they done nothing whatsoever. Total waste of time, energy and resources designed 100% for the sole purpose to make money for manufacturers and take money from consumers. A solution where no problem existed. Fithy, dirty, rotten bastards. All of them.

2 hours ago, cylix said:

Yes I got the hx1500i with the atx 3.0 spec. Love it, plenty of Power and silent, also the 12hpwr cable from corsair is well build. Almost 1 year no problems  with it.

I have no issues with Corsair PSUs and both of my RM1200x SHIFT are excellent. I especially like the cables, including the 12VHPWR they provide. My only objection to 12VHPWR is the fact that it exists at all.

[Raiderman]

If I dont get a chance later, Merry Christmas to all my NBT brothers!

[Mr. Fox]

17 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

If I dont get a chance later, Merry Christmas to all my NBT brothers!

You, too brother. Enjoy mama and baby's first Christmas. May The Reason we celebrate this holiday bring you peace and joy in the New Year. Same to the rest of you guys.

[ryan]

merry holidays, hope you all have a wonderful holiday. happy wishes from way up north.

 

 

[ryan]

A770 gets 66fps average at 4k high in horizon 5 for some reason this is low. my 3060 gets 91 without dlss and 4x msaa and 101 with dlss quality no aa

 

 

 

this is at high settings

 

If im losing fps getting the A770 I dont think ill jump on it maybe a nvidia gpu with FG and DLSS is a better idea. also maybe this guy is cpu bottlenecked, there also doesn't seem to be alot of examples for this game

 

MSI Suprim Liquid X 24G GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Card PCIe 4.0 24GB - Newegg.ca

 

I stopped smoking crk, and now a 4090 seems like a bad idea, maybe if i start back up ill consider throwing money towards the flame. a gaming turdbook costs 3000 and has everything included(screen/keyboard/cpu/ram/ssd) thats with a laptop 4090, i saw someone here get 27000 in timespy. so if it costs 5000 cad for a desktop wiith a 4090/4080 and a laptop costs 3000. the laptop is 60 percent cheaper and the performance is 70 percent of a desktop 4090. the gain in performance per dollar is 10 percent overall in favor in the turdbook. why are laptops still cheaper than desktops this makes no sense. the laptop is clearly the smarter buy short term but I guess upgradability down the line is an important factor, but when gpus cost 3k who cares

 

[cylix]

That is a 9 months old video of thr a770..they improved a lot with the new drivers and the frame generation of Intel xess is better than fg3 and very competitive with DLSS

 

It's not a 4k card, but 3060 ,3070 are also not..but it's a very good card for 2k and it's keeping its pace with the 3070/4060

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

A770 gets 66fps average at 4k high in horizon 5 for some reason this is low. my 3060 gets 91 without dlss and 4x msaa and 101 with dlss quality no aa

 

 

 

this is at high settings

 

If im losing fps getting the A770 I dont think ill jump on it maybe a nvidia gpu with FG and DLSS is a better idea. also maybe this guy is cpu bottlenecked, there also doesn't seem to be alot of examples for this game

 

MSI Suprim Liquid X 24G GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Card PCIe 4.0 24GB - Newegg.ca

 

I stopped smoking crk, and now a 4090 seems like a bad idea, maybe if i start back up ill consider throwing money towards the flame. a gaming turdbook costs 3000 and has everything included(screen/keyboard/cpu/ram/ssd) thats with a laptop 4090, i saw someone here get 27000 in timespy. so if it costs 5000 cad for a desktop wiith a 4090/4080 and a laptop costs 3000. the laptop is 60 percent cheaper and the performance is 70 percent of a desktop 4090. the gain in performance per dollar is 10 percent overall in favor in the turdbook. why are laptops still cheaper than desktops this makes no sense. the laptop is clearly the smarter buy short term but I guess upgradability down the line is an important factor, but when gpus cost 3k who cares

 

I am running a bunch of benchmarks today with the A770 and you will see that is not accurate. You'll see about 135-140 FPS in Battlefield V at 1440p with Ultra settings.

42 minutes ago, cylix said:

That is a 9 months old video of thr a770..they improved a lot with the new drivers and the frame generation of Intel xess is better than fg3 and very competitive with DLSS

Brother @cylixis spot on. Every driver release the A770 and lesser Arc GPUs get faster. I will post results later today and you will see the A770 is beating Futuremark results for 2023 gaming laptops with a 4070 so you won't be losing FPS Brother @ryan. You'll be a little better with a low cost entry point and easy upgrades if you decide to spend more later on more expensive parts.

 

It is also more fun to overclock than an NVIDIA or AMD GPU because it has more voltage, power limit and core clock headroom. The gains are larger than you'll see with a red or green card. Like 350MHz increase.

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Edit: @ryanhere is a spoiler for you... A770 versus 4070 desktop...

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/104547987

 

[Papusan]

Merry Christmas to you all... Dec 24 is already popped up here in the cold North🙂

 

 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

13 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Merry Christmas to you all... Dec 24 is already popped up here in the cold North🙂

 

 

 

 

 

 

AI cover of all i want for xmas is you by freddie mercury...boy the times we live in 😄 sounds amazing! hahaha

[ryan]

freddy mercury>?

 

I think you used the wrong link here:

 

 

 

bro @Papusan benchmarks are never a good indicator of gaming performance. in horizon 5 it was getting 70 fps on high at 4k. my 3060 nets a higher framerate, in benchmarks its alot faster and im sure in some games you will see it but in  horizon 5 the main game i want to get 120/4k it just wont happen with the a770

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, ryan said:

freddy mercury>?

 

I think you used the wrong link here:

 

 

 

bro @Papusan benchmarks are never a good indicator of gaming performance. in horizon 5 it was getting 70 fps on high at 4k. my 3060 nets a higher framerate, in benchmarks its alot faster and im sure in some games you will see it but in  horizon 5 the main game i want to get 120/4k it just wont happen with the a770

 

 

I don't know if that is accurate. I owned a 3060 Ti and was happy with it, yet the A770 performs better in most things. Again, that video is 5 months old and just about every month Intel releases great drivers that improve performance in the random titles that have room for opportunity. If money is a problem, the A770 is a very doable option, but if you want a good experience in 4K with high settings you're not going to achieve that with an inexpensive GPU. You'll have to dig deep and 4080 is entry-level 4K gaming. AMD doesn't have a good 4K GPU and the only one great at 4K is 4090. If you are going to compromise on price the results will be compromised, and so with the graphics quality settings that allow reduced functionalty.

 

It is indisputable that NVIDIA GPUs produce the best results in each of the respective price/performance ranges, but they also have a steep premium associated with them. Depending on what you intend to do, the added premium might not add any value. Or, conversely, I may be unavoidable and something you just can't live without even if the price is repulsive.

 

If a person is finding a laptop 3060 GPU delivers a gaming experience that is acceptable, then the A770 should be equally or more acceptable because it is a stronger GPU than the 3060.

[Papusan]

GTX 1070 Strix

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5435199_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_1070_82371_marks?recalculate=true

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5435195_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_44898_marks?recalculate=true

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5435197_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_29996_marks?recalculate=true

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5435194_papusan_3dmark11___extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_11275_marks?recalculate=true

 

 

[ryan]

@Papusan timespy? and love from #canada merry christmas everyone

 

 

overall score is about where it should be, this is a first for me where I dont have to do anything to get my max performance. gpu is 100 points under my top score but overall not too shabby. really liking these newer(better) drivers

 

pushing cpu from 4.2ghz to the thermally constrained 11800h to 4.3ghz I get my highest cpu score yet and with the overclock 6mhz higher and memory 200 mhz higher I get bumped to my highest score in a month. these drivers kick butt

 

[Mr. Fox]

Intel ARC A770 Benchmarks - air cooled GPU with nothing special other than overclocked with max fans.

The first image for each benchmark showing my history of runs is specifically for Brother @ryan so he can get an accurate perspective of how the A770 stacks up in December 2023 with current drivers against other GPUs since he has some buying decisions to make soon. Beware of YouTube videos, especially older ones since Intel GPU drivers improve monthly, sometimes dramatically. NVIDIA and AMD drivers seldom bring major changes in performance.

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Fires Strike Extreme | https://hwbot.org/submission/5435580_ | https://www.3dmark.com/fs/31126827

Fire Strike | https://hwbot.org/submission/5435585_ | https://www.3dmark.com/fs/31126805

Wild Life Extreme | https://hwbot.org/submission/5435586_ | https://www.3dmark.com/wl/354380

Wild Life | https://hwbot.org/submission/5435587_ | https://www.3dmark.com/wl/354381

Night Raid | https://hwbot.org/submission/5435590_ | https://www.3dmark.com/nr/1022207

Sky Diver | https://hwbot.org/submission/5435591_ | https://www.3dmark.com/sd/6444891

 

[D2ultima]

Happy holidays to everyone and merry christmas to who celebrate it!

 

On 12/23/2023 at 4:08 PM, ryan said:

A770

All the intel GPUs get significantly better with driver updates all the time. Intel is ACTUALLY doing work there. Surprising, I know. However if you are the kind of person who
- Doesn't like to wait for games to be playable

- Wants everything (especially older games) to just "work" problem-free

- Want higher fps in very recent games at high settings

 

You certainly do not want an Intel GPU. They are going to take names in the market, in about 2 years, and they WILL eventually cause everyone else to crash prices on their GPUs and/or make better lower end cards (same difference to me) but until then, see it as a midranged enthusiast's card.

 

On 12/23/2023 at 4:08 PM, ryan said:

I stopped smoking crk, and now a 4090 seems like a bad idea, maybe if i start back up ill consider throwing money towards the flame. a gaming turdbook costs 3000 and has everything included(screen/keyboard/cpu/ram/ssd) thats with a laptop 4090, i saw someone here get 27000 in timespy. so if it costs 5000 cad for a desktop wiith a 4090/4080 and a laptop costs 3000. the laptop is 60 percent cheaper and the performance is 70 percent of a desktop 4090. the gain in performance per dollar is 10 percent overall in favor in the turdbook. why are laptops still cheaper than desktops this makes no sense. the laptop is clearly the smarter buy short term but I guess upgradability down the line is an important factor, but when gpus cost 3k who cares

 

I don't know where you're finding a good $3000 CAD laptop with a 4090, 32GB of 5600MHz+ RAM and a 13700HX or better with 1TB+ storage with a good SSD & open SSD slots. Because that is bloody cheap and more people than I'd like to admit should jump at it.

 

That said, the benefit of a desktop in this case is better memory, better cooling options, quieter operation, better CPU performance (I.E. the ability to actually use 5GHz+ on intel, along with the memory benefits), more storage capacity and better main screen options (though you could just ignore your laptop screen and use an external for games).

 

If you think a laptop is enough and you're willing to fiddle with it and you have a good (and I stress *GOOD*) brand option at the price point you're looking for, then it might be for you, but I can't see how the laptop is actually going to cost less than a similarly built (or even better built) desktop these days.

[Mr. Fox]

This video is 5 months old and things are even better now than they were then. But, this guy makes a lot of very good and accurate points. I took a leap of faith buying mine and I am so glad I did. It feels like one of my smartest decisions in a couple of years.

 

 

[ryan]

ok im convinced, thanks alot bros. I was hesitant to jump aboard after seeing the video I posted but had no idea drivers would improve performance so much as I have plenty of intel based laptop with igpus, the difference is pronounced.

 

a 4080 laptop is suprisingly fast but yes a A770 for like half the price for similar performance is a green light for me, the day I get my accident money in a week ill be on here 4 sure and will have a few questions, iv'e decided to throw my fear of failure out the window and just bite the bullet and try a build piece by piece. it will teach me alot more than simply buying a pre build. more upgradeability and ill have a great cpu and gpu and cheap out on the other parts with the exception of Power supply. i'll take brother papusans advice. and brother mr fox on the a770 I appreciate your swift responses. ill have something for you guys on the first week of jan give or take a few days. 

 

so far

 

1)A770

2)i7 13th gen used

3)1000w

4) 1-2tb cheapo ssd

5) 32gb 7200 ram

6)no idea never built on, will i need to by the screws seperately?

 

[Mr. Fox]

43 minutes ago, ryan said:

ok im convinced, thanks alot bros. I was hesitant to jump aboard after seeing the video I posted but had no idea drivers would improve performance so much as I have plenty of intel based laptop with igpus, the difference is pronounced.

 

a 4080 laptop is suprisingly fast but yes a A770 for like half the price for similar performance is a green light for me, the day I get my accident money in a week ill be on here 4 sure and will have a few questions, iv'e decided to throw my fear of failure out the window and just bite the bullet and try a build piece by piece. it will teach me alot more than simply buying a pre build. more upgradeability and ill have a great cpu and gpu and cheap out on the other parts with the exception of Power supply. i'll take brother papusans advice. and brother mr fox on the a770 I appreciate your swift responses. ill have something for you guys on the first week of jan give or take a few days. 

 

so far

 

1)A770

2)i7 13th gen used

3)1000w

4) 1-2tb cheapo ssd

5) 32gb 7200 ram

6)no idea never built on, will i need to by the screws seperately?

I think you will enjoy building it and appreciate it more after you are done. SFF builds can be a real pain in the butt from what I hear because there is not much wiggle room or space to spare. Don't go too small on the case and it will be easy. You should not need to buy screws separately. The case will have what you need. Generally a PSU will include screws and coolers come with all of the hardware needed for installation. You'll likely have leftover screws when the build is done.

 

Montech is a very good option for an affordable case. The Air 903 is what I would suggest. Great case without costing too much. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=montech+air+903

 

The only extra thing you might want to buy is a package of nylon zip ties. They come in handy and I usually end up cutting some off and starting over during a build. I do what seems obvious on cable management and then usually change my mind because a better idea hits me later.

 

I joined the party later and missed some drama with earlier drivers and bugs, but I have not experienced any hiccups with Arc A770. It's not my fastest GPU, and I do not expect it to be. But it is the only one I have purchased that I believe to have offered respectable value. I have yet to find anything about it that disappoints me. I suspect that sooner or later something will because nothing is perfect. The 3090 and 4090 are monster GPUs and nothing can touch them in their respective generations, but their price alone disappointed me before I ever opened the box. In both cases I felt ill when checking out online and immediately began second-guessing my intelligence while waiting for them to arrive. They are so expensive that just using them for the first few months of ownership has made me paranoid, LOL. The paranoia eventually wears off, but they are ungodly overpriced.

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To all of you, my friends... and your families...

[Clamibot]

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

 

I hope you all have a stupendous day with your families and friends! This is my personal favorite holiday of the year. It truly is full of cheer.

[Mr. Fox]

https://www.3dmark.com/pcm10/104641736

[ryan]

Over 10k. Woah bro.

 

I'm testing my current laptop, I think its around 5k. Going to run it then apply Chris tituses tweaks see if he's all talk

[D2ultima]

23 hours ago, ryan said:

ok im convinced, thanks alot bros. I was hesitant to jump aboard after seeing the video I posted but had no idea drivers would improve performance so much as I have plenty of intel based laptop with igpus, the difference is pronounced.

 

a 4080 laptop is suprisingly fast but yes a A770 for like half the price for similar performance is a green light for me, the day I get my accident money in a week ill be on here 4 sure and will have a few questions, iv'e decided to throw my fear of failure out the window and just bite the bullet and try a build piece by piece. it will teach me alot more than simply buying a pre build. more upgradeability and ill have a great cpu and gpu and cheap out on the other parts with the exception of Power supply. i'll take brother papusans advice. and brother mr fox on the a770 I appreciate your swift responses. ill have something for you guys on the first week of jan give or take a few days. 

 

so far

 

1)A770

2)i7 13th gen used

3)1000w

4) 1-2tb cheapo ssd

5) 32gb 7200 ram

6)no idea never built on, will i need to by the screws seperately?

 

Please buy yourself a good SSD and then forget about it. I do not expect the memory to die, I expect the controller to, so you want a solid controller unit. WD Black SN 850X or Samsung 980 Pro aren't very expensive for their storage amount up to 2TB these days.

[Mr. Fox]

I have had very good results from TeamGroup NVMe and SATA SSDs. They run fast, have a decent warranty and they are nicely priced. I have at least 6 of them ranging from 1TB, 2TB and 4TB. I may have one or two 512GB as well, but I do not remember now since I have moved away from using anything smaller than 1TB capacity.

 

I think they should stop manufacturing SSD drives smaller than 1TB because it is pointless e-waste. In a couple of years I will most likely think the same of 1TB or even 2TB SSDs. 512GB is now only flash drive territory and 1TB is entry level size for system volume capacity.

[ryan]

I don't like running out of space so I will likely get a 4tb spatium. Haven't heard much about them but they are cheap and fast. Teamgroup 4tb for 230cad will be going in my omen for 6tb. I think 2tb should be the minimum for a gaming laptop

[Papusan]

12 minutes ago, ryan said:

I don't like running out of space so I will likely get a 4tb spatium. Haven't heard much about them but they are cheap and fast. Teamgroup 4tb for 230cad will be going in my omen for 6tb. I think 2tb should be the minimum for a gaming laptop

 

Dont forget.... You are not limited with space in a desktop chassis. In laptops you haven't much other choices than buy the biggest M.2 NVMe you can find. Just look in an Mac-Joke. Soldered ssd nand/chips because of the very limited space in the Jokebooks chassis. Many lap-jokes come with only 2x M.2 slots. Some with only one or even only with the shorter 2240 M.2 ssd's.