electrosoft Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 27 minutes ago, tps3443 said: I’m actually thinking about down sizing my whole system. I’m moving soon, and I’m not sure if I want to drag all this with me lol. I’m considering getting out of the “extreme game” and just running normal case with a AIO on a normal CPU with stock speeds. It’s been fun. But definitely I’m not looking forward to moving my work PC 🤣 LOL....I'll believe that when I see it! With your love of performance and pushing max everything, I can't see you moving to an AIO for your main rig like.....ever. 18 minutes ago, Etern4l said: Definitely need to get some betting going around that resolution lol AIOs suck for 13900K+ at "stock speeds", you would be back on a custom loop inside a month. I'd take some of that action lol. 8 minutes ago, tps3443 said: MCSP does not impact how far a memory controller will overclock, it directly impacts how much IMC voltage is needed to achieve the same overclock. You may find a 14900K mcsp75 and it runs DDR5 8200 Memtest stable with 1.475V CPU IMC. But you could test a 14900K mcsp85 that only needs 1.300v CPU IMC voltage for the same 8200. I think higher mcsp directly leads to lower cpu IMC voltage, and also lower SA voltage too. If MCSP is establishing a baseline IMC voltage requirement, at what memory frequency/frequencies is that used for testing? If their testing caps at lets say 7200, it quickly loses its efficacy pushing higher frequencies especially 8000+. If they go in there and cap out at even lower frequencies (5600/6000), then it really would be more useless than it already has shown to be in many cases. Less burden on the IMC can correlate to less SA voltage requirements. 1 1 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Here is my Ryzen 7950x after a CB23 run 2 2 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Raiderman said: Here is my Ryzen 7950x after a CB23 run What does it score? 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, tps3443 said: What does it score? Nearing 40K. My system is ready for a coolant flush and a repaste. Really never saw temps above 90c, like in that screenshot. https://hwbot.org/submission/5193156_raiderman_cinebench___r23_multi_core_with_benchmate_ryzen_9_7950x_39605_cb 2 1 1 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 48 minutes ago, electrosoft said: LOL....I'll believe that when I see it! With your love of performance and pushing max everything, I can't see you moving to an AIO for your main rig like.....ever. Hmmm. Sure? What does it mean when you go from xx90 tier to xx80 tier cards? A move upwards?😝 Sorry bro @tps3443😍 Here's an new Zen moment from the Red side of tech. Hmmm. All to many AMD jockey's said AMD doesn't have security problems. So why the need for update ASAP?😬 AMD discloses slew of high severity security vulnerabilities for Zen chips that attack BIOS chips — updates aim to patch bugs, finally fix Zenbleed 2 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Papusan said: Hmmm. Sure? What does it mean when you go from xx90 tier to xx80 tier cards? A move upwards?😝 Sorry bro @tps3443😍 Here's an new Zen 4 moment from the Red side of tech. Hmmm. All to many AMD jockey's said AMD doesn't have security problems. So why the need for update ASAP?😬 AMD discloses slew of high severity security vulnerabilities for Zen chips that attack BIOS chips — updates aim to patch bugs, finally fix Zenbleed lol 4080 Super > 3090 so it is a move up just not as BIG of a move. 🙂 As for AMD, who ever said AMD has no security problems? That's the Apple faithful who beat their chests about Apple security and when it is compromised they cry, "OUTLIER!!!" 🤣 5 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, electrosoft said: lol 4080 Super > 3090 so it is a move up just not as BIG of a move. 🙂 As for AMD, who ever said AMD has no security problems? That's the Apple faithful who beat their chests about Apple security and when it is compromised they cry, "OUTLIER!!!" 🤣 Hmmm. Is 16 more than 24? Is less more? Maybe ask bro @ryan😁 No wonder Nvidia is stinky on vram for newest mid/low tier cards. Less is the new more, HaHa That has to be good news. The coming GTX 570 have only 1.25GB vram while my 970 have 4GB😆 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Aorus Master RTX 4080 SUPER in-Stock on Newegg if anyone interested. $1,159 Some other models for $1,049.99 are available too. https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4080-super-zt-d40820q-10p/p/N82E16814500581 https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-super-gv-n408saorus-m-16gd/p/N82E16814932669?Item=N82E16814932669&utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&cm_mmc=TEMC-Function-AutoNotify-USA-_-N82E16814932669-_-003793&utm_campaign=TEMC-AutoNotify-US-_-003793 1 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Check this out everyone. I was browsing through MSI Store, and I was looking at their pre-built desktops and I saw this. It looks like it comes with 14900K, Godlike Z790 motherboard in the photos? Is that correct? And also a Suprim Liquid-X 4090? All for $3,899. That’s not a terrible deal. And it’s really top notch parts for a pre-built PC. I guess it’s all MSI brand parts, but higher end MSI parts, which seems pretty unique and also odd. Nothing I’d buy, but I’m just appreciating the part selection here which seems really high end for a “Pre-Built” name brand PC. Definitely better than a Alienware or Dell. https://us-store.msi.com/gaming-pcs/Infinite-RS-14NUI9-630US?sort=p.price&order=DESC 3 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Papusan said: Hmmm. Sure? What does it mean when you go from xx90 tier to xx80 tier cards? A move upwards?😝 Sorry bro @tps3443😍 Here's an new Zen moment from the Red side of tech. Hmmm. All to many AMD jockey's said AMD doesn't have security problems. So why the need for update ASAP?😬 AMD discloses slew of high severity security vulnerabilities for Zen chips that attack BIOS chips — updates aim to patch bugs, finally fix Zenbleed "Security" and "vulnerability" patches have never been something that I burn any calories fretting over. The best protection is to not be stupid, but the notion that being secure is possible with computer technology is on the same level of dumb as Santa Claus and the Easter Binny. 3 hours ago, electrosoft said: lol 4080 Super > 3090 so it is a move up just not as BIG of a move. 🙂 As for AMD, who ever said AMD has no security problems? That's the Apple faithful who beat their chests about Apple security and when it is compromised they cry, "OUTLIER!!!" 🤣 Probably hmscott When crApple fanbois cry "OUTLIER!!!" the best approach is to respond "Out liar" and point towards the door. 2 1 3 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 It......sucks! 2 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Glutton for punishment update: So I purchased another 7900XTX..... ....it will be here next week. I'm sorry. 🤣 4 1 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 14 minutes ago, electrosoft said: Glutton for punishment update: So I purchased another 7900XTX..... ....it will be here next week. I'm sorry. 🤣 You know I was so tempted to buy one when I was waiting on 4080 Super stock, it felt like they just weren’t coming back in-stock. I was really wanting the 7900XTX Nitro+ which I think may be one of the best overclocking 7900XTX. But maybe I’m mistaken. I saw some others for even $890 dollars, and I was seriously questioning my decision on spending $900 vs $1200. Which model did you get? 2 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 34 minutes ago, electrosoft said: Glutton for punishment update: So I purchased another 7900XTX..... ....it will be here next week. I'm sorry. 🤣 The way Papusan should treats his good friend brother Electro😆 Why? Oh well, it's your money. I can't stop people from doing stupid things. Mostly they have to learn it the hard way. And you will. What next? This? 5 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, tps3443 said: You know I was so tempted to buy one when I was waiting on 4080 Super stock, it felt like they just weren’t coming back in-stock. I was really wanting the 7900XTX Nitro+ which I think may be one of the best overclocking 7900XTX. But maybe I’m mistaken. I saw some others for even $890 dollars, and I was seriously questioning my decision on spending $900 vs $1200. Which model did you get? Nitro+ and Asrock Taichi 7900xtx are my two favorites hands down this generation If price is no object and I'm picking completely on cooling, PCB and design but just about every 7900xtx card is good except for a few with known hotspot issues (Asrock 7900xtx Phantom, Powercolor Red Devil early batches come to mind). Reference cards can run rather toasty but they are very compact. I ended up picking up a used Powercolor Hellhound Spectral White 7900XTX from a really trusted seller over on the OCN forums (I've purchased from him numerous times now) for several reasons: The price ($740 shipped) <---most important I wanted an all white or white leaning theme for this build as it will be a mecha/Robotech type build. It is one of the smaller 7900XTX cards in length (320mm) It is one of the quieter models under load Everybody I've asked who has had one (black or white) has hit 3000mhz no problem And lastly, it is a 2x PCI-E lead card and it will be going into an ITX build with a case and SFF PSU that only has two leads. 1 minute ago, Papusan said: The way Papusan should treats his good friend brother Electro😆 Why? Oh well, it's your money. I can't stop people from doing stupid things. Mostly they have to learn it the hard way. And you will This is now my 5th AMD card (6600XT, 7900XTX, 7900XTX, 6700XT, 7900XTX) and third 7900XTX.... AMD ME 🤣 9 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, electrosoft said: This is now my 5th AMD card (6600XT, 7900XTX, 7900XTX, 6700XT, 7900XTX) and third 7900XTX.... AMD ME 🤣 Didn't know you had a Youtube channel😁 But I'm quite sure you can't trick me and @Mr. Fox into your perverse world. Azor is sure the man of the day. And yup, I gave you a thumbs up. Happy?🤣 Improved to 4th in 3DM Sky Diver with GTX970. Quite ok Physics score🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5482284_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_970_52097_marks?recalculate=true 3 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 State of World of Warcraft running on AMD cards, particularly 7000 series: AMD forums: https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/crashing-with-world-of-warcraft/m-p/647797 Blizzard forums: https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/video-driver-crash-in-world-of-warcraft-with-amd-video-cards-7900-xtx-on-directx-12/475734/262?page=2 Still a hot mess crashing left and right as always. It has been 13+ months since I first started testing 7900XTX cards in WoW, and the problems have actually gotten worse! Two things: This 7900XTX I picked up is not for WoW I played tonight for 3hrs on my 4090 and smooth as butter as always. 1 1 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 10 hours ago, Raiderman said: Here is my Ryzen 7950x after a CB23 run noice, staying below 95C on full bore 🙂 whats your cooling setup? and what cpu tweaks implemented? 4 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: State of World of Warcraft running on AMD cards, particularly 7000 series: AMD forums: https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/crashing-with-world-of-warcraft/m-p/647797 Still a hot mess crashing left and right as always. It has been 13+ months since I first started testing 7900XTX cards in WoW, and the problems have actually gotten worse! Two things: This 7900XTX I picked up is not for WoW I played tonight for 3hrs on my 4090 and smooth as butter as always. Nice. Equal rotten as my worst GPU of over +20 cards. Yup, its a EVGA. But EVGA went damn cheapo and gave it an fully locked voltage controller. No custom vbios in the world can fix this trash from EVGA. Still 4th place in 3DMark Vantage with the trash EVGA GTX 760🙂 Could be worse... A lot worse and equal the new modern crashing AMD graphics cards @Mr. Fox😆 https://hwbot.org/submission/5482422_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_760_(256bit)_51830_marks?recalculate=true 1 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 13 hours ago, electrosoft said: I'd take some of that action lol. I bet you would 🙂 Apparently, I’m so excited about this unmissable opportunity that I have stated suffering from Freudian slips and typing “notebooktalk.bet” into the browser 😉 1 5 "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 5 hours ago, electrosoft said: State of World of Warcraft running on AMD cards, particularly 7000 series: AMD forums: https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/crashing-with-world-of-warcraft/m-p/647797 Blizzard forums: https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/video-driver-crash-in-world-of-warcraft-with-amd-video-cards-7900-xtx-on-directx-12/475734/262?page=2 Still a hot mess crashing left and right as always. It has been 13+ months since I first started testing 7900XTX cards in WoW, and the problems have actually gotten worse! Two things: This 7900XTX I picked up is not for WoW I played tonight for 3hrs on my 4090 and smooth as butter as always. The guy that bought my Z690 Dark purchased a 7900XTX to use in it and he has been pulling his hair out with stuttering problems with games. Trying to help him out, came across this that might help. https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/here-is-a-solution-for-stuttering-issue-on-radeon-cards/td-p/653693 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: The guy that bought my Z690 Dark purchased a 7900XTX to use in it and he has been pulling his hair out with stuttering problems with games. Trying to help him out, came across this that might help. https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/here-is-a-solution-for-stuttering-issue-on-radeon-cards/td-p/653693 Is there conclusive evidence the stuttering has something to do with the GPU, as opposed another system hardware or software component? (did they try another GPU?) 2 "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, Etern4l said: Is there conclusive evidence the stuttering has something to do with the GPU, as opposed another system hardware or software component? (did they try another GPU?) While the precise cause is speculation, there does seem to be a direct correlation to using an AMD GPU. He installed an old 1070 Ti and the stuttering problem disapeared. He then installed his old 6700 XT and the problem returned. He used DDU to remove the AMD drivers and installed his new 7900 XTX using an older driver. It seemed like everything was resolved, but he installed the latest AMD driver a couple of days later and the stuttering returned to his 7900 XTX. So, it does seem to be GPU/AMD driver related. I also had some stuttering with the 6900 XT in some games, as well as other goofy glitches with desktop icon rendering and rendering of text in Micro$oft Office products. What I think, and again only speculation, is that AMD is following the silly path of Micro$lop and focusing way too much on power management instead of allowing the GPU to do what is best for performance at the exclusion of all other considerations. Focusing on using as little power as possible almost always results in undesirable performance behaviors. Trying to have it both ways is generally a fool's errand. Striving for dynamic clock behavior algorithms often produces undesirable results as well. 2 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said: While the precise cause is speculation, there does seem to be a direct correlation to using an AMD GPU. He installed an old 1070 Ti and the stuttering problem disapeared. He then installed his old 6700 XT and the problem returned. He used DDU to remove the AMD drivers and installed his new 7900 XTX using an older driver. It seemed like everything was resolved, but he installed the latest AMD driver a couple of days later and the stuttering returned to his 7900 XTX. So, it does seem to be GPU/AMD driver related. I also had some stuttering with the 6900 XT in some games, as well as other goofy glitches with desktop icon rendering and rendering of text in Micro$oft Office products. What I think, and again only speculation, is that AMD is following the silly path of Micro$lop and focusing way too much on power management instead of allowing the GPU to do what is best for performance at the exclusion of all other considerations. Focusing on using as little power as possible almost always results in undesirable performance behaviors. Trying to have it both ways is generally a fool's errand. Striving for dynamic clock behavior algorithms often produces undesirable results as well. Well that looks quite conclusive. Is it not possible to set max performance mode in the AMD GPU control panel? "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Set Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 hours ago, Etern4l said: I bet you would 🙂 Apparently, I’m so excited about this unmissable opportunity that I have stated suffering from Freudian slips and typing “notebooktalk.bet” into the browser 😉 I think he would be happy with a normal AIO for a couple of months while he gets his new home in order. The question is how long would he last without high-end components and custom watercooling. For my workstation, I don't use any custom watercooling anymore, and I'm thinking about selling my EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid that I was using in that workstation. I replaced it with my A770 for the time being until I make my decision. So it is possible for him to hold back but for how long. 2 1 A Change Is Gonna Come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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