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[chew]

just for the record intel can kiss mine.......

 

this is is how you get intel stable.......

 

[electrosoft]

3090ti vs 4080 super.

 

My original assessment stands. Raw power, the only real upgrade for a 3090/3090ti owner is the 4090. I suspect history will repeat itself for 4090 owners and the only real upgrade will be the 5090.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

20 hours ago, electrosoft said:

3090ti vs 4080 super.

 

My original assessment stands. Raw power, the only real upgrade for a 3090/3090ti owner is the 4090. I suspect history will repeat itself for 4090 owners and the only real upgrade will be the 5090.

 

 

4080S is essentially an 3090 Ti with the core overclocked 700-750MHz and the memory about 1000 MHz higher with 8GB less VRAM than a 3090 Ti. If you matched the 4080S clocks with the 3090 Ti the FPS would probably be about the same. The 4080S is not remarkably faster even though there is pretty huge difference in stock clocks.

[electrosoft]

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

4080S is essentially an 3090 Ti with the core overclocked 700-750MHz and the memory about 1000 MHz higher with 8GB less VRAM than a 3090 Ti. If you matched the 4080S clocks with the 3090 Ti the FPS would probably be about the same. The 4080S is not remarkably faster even though there is pretty huge difference in stock clocks.

 

True, maybe see if @tps3443 will lock his clocks to ~2200 (or what was his solid D2D OC on his KP 3090) on his 4080 Super and see how it compares to his previous 3090 results.

[tps3443]

50 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

True, maybe see if @tps3443 will lock his clocks to ~2200 (or what was his solid D2D OC on his KP 3090) on his 4080 Super and see how it compares to his previous 3090 results.

Yeah the 4080 Super is very nice. Primarily with just how efficient it is. 90% of the time my 4080 Super with the 450W bios is literally 80% of a stock RTX4090 (Most of the time) It’s pretty fast! My old 3090KP was also quick for a 3090, it was substantially faster than overclocked 3090Ti’s. I believe the biggest advantage is the 4080S feels faster in real world when using RT/FG/DLSS3. Not to mention Cyberpunk 2077. Mainly because of Frame Gen. I can play Cyberpunk with 4K, DLSS Quality, Ultra RT, Path tracing off, and average exactly 100FPS. My 3090 would be high 50‘s here. So it makes the 4080S feel and seem like a monster in comparison all thanks to Frame Gen, better RT performance, and all at a fraction of the power cost lol. And it’s just so much smoother. When I was playing CB2077 on my 3090KP I had a profile that was pulling about 580-620W range on power. And it was barely maintaining that 54-60. 
 

I actually did buy a 4090. So we’ll see if it’s able to offer me more than 20% uptick. Possibly 25%. 😬 I’m hopeful though. The 4090 seems like sometimes it can just demolish in these rare scenarios, but other times it only offers a smaller boost over the 4080 Super. I know the 4090 is strong. But when I see my benchmarks compared to a stock 4090, I’m a little hesitant. But then I think about how much I enjoyed just 18%, whereas if it is something in the realm of  20-28% that would be a very welcome improvement. 
 

Anyways, I always thought going from a 3090Ti to a 4080 Super is pretty much like a half way mark to the full on 4090 performance boost. Some people may not think that’s good enough though, and that certainly makes sense. 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Yeah the 4080 Super is very nice. Primarily with just how efficient it is. 90% of the time my 4080 Super with the 450W bios is literally 80% of a stock RTX4090 (Most of the time) It’s pretty fast! My old 3090KP was also quick for a 3090, it was substantially faster than overclocked 3090Ti’s. I believe the biggest advantage is the 4080S feels faster in real world when using RT/FG/DLSS3. Not to mention Cyberpunk 2077. Mainly because of Frame Gen. I can play Cyberpunk with 4K, DLSS Quality, Ultra RT, Path tracing off, and average exactly 100FPS. My 3090 would be high 50‘s here. So it makes the 4080S feel and seem like a monster in comparison all thanks to Frame Gen, better RT performance, and all at a fraction of the power cost lol. And it’s just so much smoother. When I was playing CB2077 on my 3090KP I had a profile that was pulling about 580-620W range on power. And it was barely maintaining that 54-60. 
 

I actually did buy a 4090. So we’ll see if it’s able to offer me more than 20% uptick. Possibly 25%. 😬 I’m hopeful though. The 4090 seems like sometimes it can just demolish in these rare scenarios, but other times it only offers a smaller boost over the 4080 Super. I know the 4090 is strong. But when I see my benchmarks compared to a stock 4090, I’m a little hesitant. But then I think about how much I enjoyed just 18%, whereas if it is something in the realm of  20-28% that would be a very welcome improvement. 
 

Anyways, I always thought going from a 3090Ti to a 4080 Super is pretty much like a half way mark to the full on 4090 performance boost. Some people may not think that’s good enough though, and that certainly makes sense. 

There are more than a few examples of games that just run better with one particular GPU versus another. It is a software problem, not a hardware problem. It doesn't really have anything to do with the GPU being more powerful or better. It's just that it plays nicer with one than it does the other. We see that from time to time with certain benchmarks, especially less popular benchmarks. The choice in CPU can also be an influential factor and some games can run better and faster with an inferior CPU.

 

Probably the best example of this is Arc GPUs running some old games that use antiquated DX APIs. Without driver optimization some have been uplayable, but it has nothing to do with the performance capabilities of the GPU.

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

There are more than a few examples of games that just run better with one particular GPU versus another. It is a software problem, not a hardware problem. It doesn't really have anything to do with the GPU being more powerful or better. It's just that it plays nicer with one than it does the other. We see that from time to time with certain benchmarks, especially less popular benchmarks. The choice in CPU can also be an influential factor and some games can run better and faster with an inferior CPU.

 

Probably the best example of this is Arc GPUs running some old games that use antiquated DX APIs. Without driver optimization some have been uplayable, but it has nothing to do with the performance capabilities of the GPU.

We’ll probably see something similar happen with RTX5000 series. I just hope it’s not as drastic though. It was pretty sad seeing an RTX4070 straight outpace these heavy OC 3090/3090Ti’s in ray tracing games with their frame gen. 
 

 

[ryan]

@tps3443 did you know the 3090 can do frame generation by dropping two dlls into said game. Alot of people are unaware of this trick but if imagine your old 3090 would get 90 vs 50

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

@tps3443 did you know the 3090 can do frame generation by dropping two dlls into said game. Alot of people are unaware of this trick but if imagine your old 3090 would get 90 vs 50

Tell us more.

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

@tps3443 did you know the 3090 can do frame generation by dropping two dlls into said game. Alot of people are unaware of this trick but if imagine your old 3090 would get 90 vs 50

I tried something like that with those DLSS+FG mods for games from Pure Dark on Reddit, but I don’t think it works on RTX3000 series. Never worked for me anyways only the upscaling would actually work. I remember trying on Starfield and the Pandora game. No luck though. Unless something has changed. My son has a 3060 12G, it’d help him out a good bit 😀

[ryan]

I tested with witcher 3. Ratchet and clank and forza..it doubles frame rates.i will tell more in a bit check gaming sub section if you want to try it

 

Yeah I tried the star field mod, no luck but for games that natively support fg all games get almost double frame rates. I couldn't run ratchet and clank at 4k medium with my 3060 with fg im in the 50s. Thing I like is how easy the mod is and once you drop two dlls it is good to go Everytime without fiddling. At first it didn't work but once it did very impressive. Cool thing is it turns your 3060 into a 4060 basically. Has to be the dx12 folder where exe is and just double click bat file to disable checks

 

heres witcher 3 at 4k all high dlss set to auto. before i was getting 10fps and with frame generation around 33fps

 

id say quality dlss 4k high settings and getting 80fps in RACRA is incredible. 3080s are around 70-90fps. so yeah the bump up is pretty good, for some reason its saying its fsr3 mod now. beofre it was just dlss fg. so im not sure if im using the right one if not it still looks good and runs great regardless of amd or nvidia version./

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

heres witcher 3 at 4k all high dlss set to auto. before i was getting 10fps and with frame generation around 33fps

 

 

id say quality dlss 4k high settings and getting 80fps in RACRA is incredible. 3080s are around 70-90fps. so yeah the bump up is pretty good, for some reason its saying its fsr3 mod now. beofre it was just dlss fg. so im not sure if im using the right one if not it still looks good and runs great regardless of amd or nvidia version./

So what is the mod that you are using for this?

[ryan]

Fg mod found at nexus. Just Google fg mod nexus. Tut is over in nbt gaming section. I can't copy paste links this second because I'm on my tablet but just read the tutorial in general section of gaming here. It's literally 3 steps