*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Talon]

2 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Very true on 12th and 13th. If you don't have a halfway decent IMC, you can be limited to as low as 3200-3333 easily on DDR4 (just ask my 12400F lol), but on DDR5 testing, it topped out right below a couple 12900k's I tested that capped out around 6600-6800.

 

I don't have any non K 14th gen so I didn't know that unleashed VCCSA. Good to know.

 

Unless they changed the rev, the Asrock Z690 RS mATX boards can bclk like a champ.

 

 

 

 

 

Wow I had no idea that board could BCLK OC! They don't advertise the hyperblck engine on that board. 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

Very true on 12th and 13th. If you don't have a halfway decent IMC, you can be limited to as low as 3200-3333 easily on DDR4 (just ask my 12400F lol), but on DDR5 testing, it topped out right below a couple 12900k's I tested that capped out around 6600-6800.

 

I don't have any non K 14th gen so I didn't know that unleashed VCCSA. Good to know.

 

Unless they changed the rev, the Asrock Z690 RS mATX boards can bclk like a champ.

 

 

 

 

I played around with that Celeron once for a few minutes on the Z690 Dark and it easily ran DDR5-6000. I didn't spend a lot of time messing with it to see how far it could go, but that required no effort at all. I just applied one of the built-in memory overclock profiles and it was totally stable.

  

1 hour ago, Talon said:

 

Wow I had no idea that board could BCLK OC! They don't advertise the hyperblck engine on that board. 

I think ASRock can sometimes be their own worst enemy in terms of marketing. Or, the lack thereof is probably more accurate. In that respect they are similar to how EVGA was. Seemed like their philosophy was "people that know our stuff is awesome will buy it and we don't care about those that do not know" LOL. The exact opposite of ASUS's "people think our stuff is awesome, even when it isn't, and we love screwing them with high prices because they think that."

[Talon]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I played around with that Celeron once for a few minutes on the Z690 Dark and it easily ran DDR5-6000. I didn't spend a lot of time messing with it to see how far it could go, but that required no effort at all. I just applied one of the built-in memory overclock profiles and it was totally stable.

  

I think ASRock can sometimes be their own worst enemy in terms of marketing. Or, the lack thereof is probably more accurate. In that respect they are similar to how EVGA was. Seemed like their philosophy was "people that know our stuff is awesome will buy it and we don't care about those that do not know" LOL. The exact opposite of ASUS's "people think our stuff is awesome, even when it isn't, and we love screwing them with high prices because they think that."

 

My only issue with Asrock boards is the lack of features in the BIOS. EVGA was the same way, but I found most of EVGAs menu to have exactly what you needed at the same time. Also they leave their BIOS unlocked and you can easily modify and unhide all menus in literally minutes using online tools. 

 

But I still think I'm going to go Asrock Taichi OC Formula if I pick up a Z890. The OCF boards are usually always great and if they can manage godlike DDR5 OC like they have with the Z790i Lightning at a reasonable price they'll have a winner. Asus is just getting too expensive for what they have. Will see on launch day or as it gets closer to launch. Maybe Asus will have some killer new feature with the Apex that I want. 

[Reciever]

So payroll screwed up and I didn't get paid, had to sell my 3090 to keep the house running. That week was rolled over and treated as OT. 

 

Now I'm eyeballing the red devil 7900 xtx. Any reason I should avoid? 

[Raiderman]

50 minutes ago, Reciever said:

So payroll screwed up and I didn't get paid, had to sell my 3090 to keep the house running. That week was rolled over and treated as OT. 

 

Now I'm eyeballing the red devil 7900 xtx. Any reason I should avoid? 

I've never been a Powercolor fan, but I've heard good things about their red devil line. 🤷‍♂️

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Reciever said:

So payroll screwed up and I didn't get paid, had to sell my 3090 to keep the house running. That week was rolled over and treated as OT. 

 

Now I'm eyeballing the red devil 7900 xtx. Any reason I should avoid? 

 

Yikes, well incoming 7900XTX.

 

I've owned and used the XFX 7900XTX, MSI 7900XTX and currently the Powercolor Hellhound (RAWR!) White 7900XTX.

 

I've found they're all about the same and in terms of coil whine in the order presented from worst to best. First two 3x8 pin, Hellhound is a 2x8 pin model.

 

Red Devil is one of the better designed PCBs along with Sapphire and top dog (again) is the Asrock Taichi.

 

With RT off, 7900XTX is a pretty beastly card in 4080/4080 Super land and depending on games can nip at the heels of the 4090. RT on and it has problems competing with even the 3080 sometimes.

 

If you're not an RT fan, it is a really good card overall. Hopefully you found a good price on it.

 

 

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Wow I had no idea that board could BCLK OC! They don't advertise the hyperblck engine on that board. 

 

My bad lol. I double checked my notes. I mixed up Asrock B660M RS with the Asrock B660M Riptide I had for a bit then gave to my niece + 12100F . My Nephew got the B660M RS + 12100F and my Daughter had the Prime B660 + 12400F before upgrading her to the Prime B650 + 7600X.

 

4 hours ago, Talon said:

 

My only issue with Asrock boards is the lack of features in the BIOS. EVGA was the same way, but I found most of EVGAs menu to have exactly what you needed at the same time. Also they leave their BIOS unlocked and you can easily modify and unhide all menus in literally minutes using online tools. 

 

But I still think I'm going to go Asrock Taichi OC Formula if I pick up a Z890. The OCF boards are usually always great and if they can manage godlike DDR5 OC like they have with the Z790i Lightning at a reasonable price they'll have a winner. Asus is just getting too expensive for what they have. Will see on launch day or as it gets closer to launch. Maybe Asus will have some killer new feature with the Apex that I want. 

 

It's quirky, but it does get you most of the functionality you will need to get the job done. Z790i Lightning is an absolute steal for its capabilities and memory OC. It also has the best VRMs for iTX boards.

[Mr. Fox]

11 hours ago, Talon said:

 

My only issue with Asrock boards is the lack of features in the BIOS. EVGA was the same way, but I found most of EVGAs menu to have exactly what you needed at the same time. Also they leave their BIOS unlocked and you can easily modify and unhide all menus in literally minutes using online tools. 

 

But I still think I'm going to go Asrock Taichi OC Formula if I pick up a Z890. The OCF boards are usually always great and if they can manage godlike DDR5 OC like they have with the Z790i Lightning at a reasonable price they'll have a winner. Asus is just getting too expensive for what they have. Will see on launch day or as it gets closer to launch. Maybe Asus will have some killer new feature with the Apex that I want. 

Well, for $112 hard to beat at that price. DDR5-6400 is where it maxes out with my old Trident Z5 7200 32GB kit. Maybe tomorrow I will see if I can eek out a bit more with my spare Trident Z5 8000 48GB kit. I doubt it since it is 4-DIMM. But, this was about my max DDR5 overclock with the 2-DIMM Unify-X so overall it's fine for a test bench. It's actually a fairly nice motherboard except for the extra memory slots bringing it down to gamerboy level. Build quality is mediocre in typical ASRock style. Things like the plastic rear I/O shroud is just cheapskate stuff. But, the VRM heatsink keeps the 17 phases cool enough.

 

The only thing that I am a bit miffed about is the "open box" included nothing except for two SATA cables and antennas for the WiFi that I don't use. The GPU support bracket (which I really wanted) and M.2 standoffs were missing and it was in a plain white box with extra space and no foam padding. No VRM fan and bracket. Luckily nothing was broken with it sliding around in the box. Weird because I am pretty sure it was brand new. Still had all of the plastic peel and nothing looked used in any way. M.2 thermal pads were the original without the film peeled off as well.

 

Now I am going to test the couple of dead CPUs sitting on my shelf and confirm they are still dead. I am using my worst 13900KS in it right now. After what I went through with the Encore RMA where they did nothing and sent it back, maybe I will get lucky and one of them is mysteriously alive again.

 

The BIOS is taking some getting used to. It's not terrible, but I agree that the BIOS is not as good as EVGA or ASUS. I think I like it better than MSI firmware though. The menu layout is more logical to me. I wish all of the manufacturers would stop using different terminology for settings and stick to a common naming convention. It is annoying when every brand calls things by different names.

 

 

The EK CR360 Dark is doing a decent job of cooling it with the IHS and Kyrosnot Extreme. Better than I expected. It is delidded with liquid metal under the IHS, but still. 

[Raiderman]

Installed the 9950X this morning, quick CB23 run, (not optimized).

I'd say that's a pretty big uplift from the 39,700 score I had with the 7950X.

Latest MSI bios.