*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Solid proof of why high speed, low latency RAM does in fact matter a lot in gaming. Even with the amount of 3D vcache these X3D CPUs have, it's still possible to exhaust that cache many times over in some games. This is exactly the reason Intel CPUs scale so well with fast memory; it helps mititgate the shortcomings of the cache on Intel's CPUs vs AMD's X3D CPUs (in regards to cache size that is).

Intel cores run at MUCH higher clock speeds stock, overclock better and the memory latency is lower, along with data transfer speeds that are much higher. Or, should we say used to. Then came the Intel Core Ultra chiplet abortion and flushed it all down the toilet. Like a marathon runner that has a decent lead in a race deciding to stab himself in the calf with an ice pick just for the hell of it. 

[electrosoft]

12 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Solid proof of why high speed, low latency RAM does in fact matter a lot in gaming. Even with the amount of 3D vcache these X3D CPUs have, it's still possible to exhaust that cache many times over in some games. This is exactly the reason Intel CPUs scale so well with fast memory; it helps mititgate the shortcomings of the cache on Intel's CPUs vs AMD's X3D CPUs (in regards to cache size that is).

 

Agreed. There is a widely held misnomer that tuning isn't really required with X3D and that is a fallacy especially when the cache is exhausted/saturated.

 

World of Warcraft has been shown to really benefit from tight timings vs bandwidth over and over when things are said and done.

 

Of course if you can have both then why not? 🙂

 

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Intel cores run at MUCH higher clock speeds stock, overclock better and the memory latency is lower, along with data transfer speeds that are much higher. Or, should we say used to. Then came the Intel Core Ultra chiplet abortion and flushed it all down the toilet. Like a marathon runner that has a decent lead in a race deciding to stab himself in the calf with an ice pick just for the hell of it. 

 

*Sigh* hopefully the chips act and the fact Intel can't sell their foundries along with the removal of Pat along with 18a in the wind will get them back on track.

 

@Talon How has the 4090 testing been going with the 9800X3D vs 14900KS vs 285k?

 

 

[tps3443]

Getting ready to test the new Xeon w3175X. This thing was brand new and sealed. Just opened it up. 
 

Shall the best Xeon win! This will be easy though, because I know my chip well by this point. 
 

[Mr. Fox]

45 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Getting ready to test the new Xeon w3175X. This thing was brand new and sealed. Just opened it up. 
 

Shall the best Xeon win! This will be easy though, because I know my chip well by this point. 
 

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For the AMD owners here... give me a shout if you need to do this. Similar to the issue of getting a new Intel ME cancer payload with a BIOS update, it doesn't go back to the old AMD SMU with a flash downgrade, but there is a way of doing it. (Got the info from Svet at MSI forum and have tested it three times with success.)

[Clamibot]

Since oddly Cinebench R15 refuses to use both the P cores and E cores on my 14900KF at the same time, I ended up doing a P core only run and an E core only run by manually setting processor affinity each time to those respective core groups.

 

The P core only run is the one in orange and the E core run is the one in brown. Looks like 8 P cores is more powerful than 16 E cores.

[Papusan]

58 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

Since oddly Cinebench R15 refuses to use both the P cores and E cores on my 14900KF at the same time, I ended up doing a P core only run and an E core only run by manually setting processor affinity each time to those respective core groups.

 

The P core only run is the one in orange and the E core run is the one in brown. Looks like 8 P cores is more powerful than 16 E cores.

 

Hmmm. Should work. Is this done with stock clocks? If not then try default clock speed.

[Clamibot]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Hmmm. Should work. Is this done with stock clocks? If not then try default clock speed.

 

I just tried that and got the same behavior. Cinebench R15 was adamant that it only ran on one set of cores. I can get it to run on either P cores or E cores, but not both types at the same time.

[electrosoft]

The king is dead! Long live the king!

 

Boxed up my Liquid 4090 to ship off to the new owner tomorrow so I snagged a Ventus 3x 4070 Super locally from best buy to hold me over for the ~58 days. The Liquid X gave me almost two years of rock solid service and I can honestly say it has been my most favorite graphics card to own even more than the Kingpin 3090. Just a beauty of a card.

 

I'm still holding on at 4k Ultra in WoW but barely. I had to begrudgingly turn off RT and there are some wicked dips into the 50s even with RT off so I suspect I'll be inching that Ultra 10 down to a consolation 8 sooner than later. 🙂

 

**Bring on the 5090!!**

 

So adorable..... 🤣

 

No coil whine. It might be the quietest gpu I've own ever. Closest would be the KPE 3090ti. That was ridiculously quiet.

 

WoW went from being rarely being pegged at 99% GPU to almost all the time 99%.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Clamibot said:

Since oddly Cinebench R15 refuses to use both the P cores and E cores on my 14900KF at the same time, I ended up doing a P core only run and an E core only run by manually setting processor affinity each time to those respective core groups.

 

The P core only run is the one in orange and the E core run is the one in brown. Looks like 8 P cores is more powerful than 16 E cores.

I have never had that issue before. Are you using one of the saved BIOS profiles or testing your own? You should be getting like 43-44K easily in CBR23 with one of saved profiles unless it is just getting too hot. Unless there is some kind of error elsewhere causing Cinebench to malfunction.

https://hwbot.org/submission/5546221

https://hwbot.org/submission/5546469

  

27 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

The king is dead! Long live the king!

 

Boxed up my Liquid 4090 to ship off to the new owner tomorrow so I snagged a Ventus 3x 4070 Super locally from best buy to hold me over for the ~58 days. The Liquid X gave me almost two years of rock solid service and I can honestly say it has been my most favorite graphics card to own even more than the Kingpin 3090. Just a beauty of a card.

 

I'm still holding on at 4k Ultra in WoW but barely. I had to begrudgingly turn off RT and there are some wicked dips into the 50s even with RT off so I suspect I'll be inching that Ultra 10 down to a consolation 8 sooner than later. 🙂

 

**Bring on the 5090!!**

 

So adorable..... 🤣

 

WoW went from being rarely being pegged at 99% GPU to almost all the time 99%.

That iTX motherboard and 4070 look SO TINY in that big Enthoo case, LOL.