*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[jaybee83]

6 hours ago, johnksss said:

Where did Jaybee get that list from?

 

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

 

there u go 😄 

 

aight gentlemen, start your "refresh engines" 😄 

 

feel free to keep posting here if youre lucky enough to snatch one! including all the deetz for pricing, shop, model, etc. 🙂 

[Mr. Fox]

19 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

there u go 😄 

 

aight gentlemen, start your "refresh engines" 😄 

 

feel free to keep posting here if youre lucky enough to snatch one! including all the deetz for pricing, shop, model, etc. 🙂 

Don't sell your 4090 for less than what you paid for it new +10%. Or, don't even sell it.

 

@electrosoft in 20/20 hindsight do you wish you had not sold your 4090?

[jaybee83]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

Don't sell your 4090 for less than what you paid for it new +10%. 

 

thats the nice thing about the 5090: it keeps our 4090s priced hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh 😄 

 

aight so Mindfactory already seems overloaded, page doesnt even react anymore lulz

 

good that ive got 10 other shops open 😛 

[Mr. Fox]

1 minute ago, jaybee83 said:

 

thats the nice thing about the 5090: it keeps our 4090s priced hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh 😄 

 

aight so Mindfactory already seems overloaded, page doesnt even react anymore lulz

 

good that ive got 10 other shops open 😛 

It's really insane. Great for those that bought one and don't want to take a loss at resale. But, really very bad for everyone else in the world. Anyone that sold a 4090 to help offset the cost of a 5090 probably would not be able to replace their 4090 without paying more if they changed their mind about 5090.

[jaybee83]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It's really insane. Great for those that bought one and don't want to take a loss at resale. But, really very bad for everyone else in the world. Anyone that sold a 4090 to help offset the cost of a 5090 probably would not be able to replace their 4090 without paying more if they changed their mind about 5090.

 

boy am i glad i held off on selling my 4090 before the 5090 launch! 😄 

[Mr. Fox]

There are going to be lots of unhappy GPU shoppers.

 

Local BB only has the least-desirable 5080 available, all others sold out and all of the 5090 show sold out. Looking at the stock at Microcenters being so low, it's probably accurate. I bet they had fewer than 5 at any store. I would not buy the FE even if I wanted a 5080/5090. Very undesirable design.

[jaybee83]

keep at it boiz

[electrosoft]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Don't sell your 4090 for less than what you paid for it new +10%. Or, don't even sell it.

 

@electrosoft in 20/20 hindsight do you wish you had not sold your 4090?

 

Not in the least. My golden rule is if I can use hardware for X amount of years and recoup the entire cost, I am more than satisfied. I very much enjoyed my ~2yrs with my Liquid 4090, but I was ready to move onto something either cheaper or next gen.

 

When I'm done with a product mentally, it has to GO! 🙂

 

There is no going back. Then the issue becomes trying to get back as close to what I bought it for as possible.

 

4090 achieved all those goals.

Now it is old tech. 🤣

 

5 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

There are going to be lots of unhappy GPU shoppers.

 

Local BB only has the least-desirable 5080 available, all others sold out and all of the 5090 show sold out. Looking at the stock at Microcenters being so low, it's probably accurate. I bet they had fewer than 5 at any store. I would not buy the FE even if I wanted a 5080.

 

"Add to Cart" unfortunately means nothing in Best Buy speak.

 

Until you actually check out and get an order number, the system will fail you over and over again.

 

You can actually have it to the point of hitting "Buy/Purchase" and it still will go, "OPPPS! Something went wrong!"

 

It is the biggest frustration with BB

 

7 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

keep at it boiz

 

Going from "coming soon" to "sold out" was like....

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

8 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Not in the least. My golden rule is if I can use hardware for X amount of years and recoup the entire cost, I am more than satisfied. I very much enjoyed my ~2yrs with my Liquid 4090, but I was ready to move onto something either cheaper or next gen.

 

When I'm done with a product mentally, it has to GO! 🙂

 

There is no going back. Then the issue becomes trying to get back as close to what I bought it for as possible.

 

4090 achieved all those goals.

Now it is old tech. 🤣

 

 

"Add to Cart" unfortunately means nothing in Best Buy speak.

 

Until you actually check out and get an order number, the system will fail you over and over again.

 

You can actually have it to the point of hitting "Buy/Purchase" and it still will go, "OPPPS! Something went wrong!"

 

It is the biggest frustration with BB

 

 

Going from "coming soon" to "sold out" was like....

 

 

 

 

dont be fooled. here they havent even sold a single 5090 yet. the pages just crashed and are just now recovering. theyre still gonna release the cards 🙂 

[electrosoft]

1 minute ago, jaybee83 said:

 

dont be fooled. here they havent even sold a single 5090 yet. the pages just crashed and are just now recovering. theyre still gonna release the cards 🙂 

 

Oh yeah, I'm still refreshing and checking.

 

Newegg is doing their bundle BS again trying to get rid of high inventory items.

 

Waiting on B&H atm.... they still haven't released anything to inventory.

 

I'll be on the lookout for Microcenter horror stories.

 

My objective today is to:

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#1. Score a FE 5080: after seeing Jufus's results and a few others showing the 5080 FE clocks like a monster and it is an ideal SFF card and cost per frame is a top 5 card giving . Now it has piqued my curiosity. The fact it uses the 5090 FE heatsink/fan and has more headroom power wise, this is going to be the sleeper hit this generation methinks. It fully puts the lid on AMD's coffin this generation and the 5090 just sits atop everything looking down with disdain at all the plebs below it including the 4090 🤣

 

NOTE: I'm glad to see both Gigabyte, Asus, PNY and MSI have 5080's at MSRP and match Nvidia's pricing.

 

#2. Score a 5090 if the model I want crosses my screen (MSI Suprin, Liquid, FE, Astral). I'm really locking onto the MSI Suprim again for the 5090 either model will do but I prefer the air cooled one this time around if given a choice. FE for a SFF / easily swappable card but I'm thinking an FE 5080 for SFF fun and potentially a 5090 for desktop. I had a nice sell off of old gear and other household items the last three months of last year that fluffed up the tech-nest-egg quite nicely.

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I can always fall back and pick up a 7900xtx for ~920 or lower brand new but looking at the results, a 5080 flat out beats it in raster and RT...well....we know..... I've tried the 7900xtx three times now (almost four. I sent back a factory sealed Taichi 7900xtx because of warranty issues / no bonus items) so I know what to expect. For let's say $700 used? I'd pick one up.

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At one point I had both an FE 5090 and 5080 in queue with BB but that went to poo.

 

Gaming wise, if a 5080 gets me where I need to get for almost half the cost of the 4090 (and half the cost or more of a 5090), nice! If I decide to take a Jensen paddle to the fanny and score a 5090, nice!

 

 

Doing this while the TG 8200 sticks are being dialed in at 2200/6400 CL30 next to me running TM5 90 min.🤣

 

I suspect @tps3443 is quietly pulling out his hair and banging up against trying to get a 5090. 🙂

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

42 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

"Add to Cart" unfortunately means nothing in Best Buy speak.

 

Until you actually check out and get an order number, the system will fail you over and over again.

 

You can actually have it to the point of hitting "Buy/Purchase" and it still will go, "OPPPS! Something went wrong!"

 

It is the biggest frustration with BB

I only grabbed the screenshot and never made an effort to add it to cart since I had no intention of purchasing it and don't want to add to anyone else's frustration that is trying to. I cannot remember the last time I purchased something at Best Buy, in-store or online. As a general rule they do not sell PC products that I am interested in purchasing, and in the rare circumstance they do it is never in stock. I do not "dislike" Best Buy, but it never seems to work out that they are an option for me for the reasons mentioned above.

[electrosoft]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I only grabbed the screenshot and never made an effort to add it to cart since I had no intention of purchasing it and don't want to add to anyone else's frustration that is trying to. I cannot remember the last time I purchased something at Best Buy, in-store or online. As a general rule they do not sell PC products that I am interested in purchasing, and in the rare circumstance they do it is never in stock.

 

A. Yeah, best buy goes like this:

 

#1. Add to Cart

#2. You're in line!

#3. Sorry, something went wrong! or "Out of Stock" determined by inventory logistics

#4. Add to Cart Button still on screen

#5. Goto #1

 

B. If you manage to make it past this phase

 

#1. Please verify order by logging in again

#2. Here is your 2FA

#3. Go to Check out

#4. Opps something went wrong!

#5. Goto #1

 

C. You actually make it to the final purchase screen

 

#1. Place your order

#2. Opps something went wrong!

#3. Goto B else "That item is currently unavailable"

 

This can happen over and over and over again.

 

This was me earlier:

 

[Papusan]

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm. El Chapuzas 5080 review sample did 500 on  the core and got 3.165MHz while Frame chasers sample did 475 on the core and +3.232MHz overclock. Hmm. Nice.

 

And I'm quite sure many samples offer ghost clocks (clock stretching). That's because the voltage is most likely too low for the showed overclock. But people think it's correct what their eyes see, so.... 

 

Lower boost clock but still beat Frame Chasers TIME SPY oc results. Anyone that can see the ghost here?

 

I'm sure Frame Chasers saw ghost clocks. Here is even lower 3.150MHz boost clocks. Or maybe he is unable to tune his own system?😁

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

I'm sure Frame Chasers saw ghost clocks. Here is 3.150 boost clocks. Or maybe he is unable to tune his own system?😁

 

 

 

It may have also been an issue with the monitoring hardware he was using showing erroneous data since it wasn't even released yet. MSI Afterburner and HWiNFO64 may not be getting accurate data or interpreting it incorrectly. Hard to know for sure. ASUS may have sent him a wonky GPU sample, too.

[Papusan]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It may have also been an issue with the monitoring hardware he was using showing erroneous data since it wasn't even released yet. MSI Afterburner and HWiNFO64 may not be getting accurate data or interpreting it incorrectly.

 

I think they all use latest beta software. His results is an outlier. And he was unable to see it.

 

Edit.

AMD RX 9070 XT is actually an RX 9080 in disguise: Average performance vs. leaked NVIDIA, better-than-expected Ray Tracing

The RX 9070 XT data keeps coming in, and although all the data that AMD had collected internally was leaked a few weeks ago, we now have a specific and key piece of data that is comparative to another competing card. And yes, the RX 9070 XT is.....

[Mr. Fox]

Just now, Papusan said:

 

I think they all use latest beta software. His results is an outlier. And he was unable to see it.

He is rarely able to see things from another perspective. While he is often correct, he tends to be myopic.

[Papusan]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

He is rarely able to see things from another perspective. While he is often correct, he tends to be myopic.

 

As you know. He think he is perfect in his own mind.

[tps3443]

16 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

A. Yeah, best buy goes like this:

 

#1. Add to Cart

#2. You're in line!

#3. Sorry, something went wrong! or "Out of Stock" determined by inventory logistics

#4. Add to Cart Button still on screen

#5. Goto #1

 

B. If you manage to make it past this phase

 

#1. Please verify order by logging in again

#2. Here is your 2FA

#3. Go to Check out

#4. Opps something went wrong!

#5. Goto #1

 

C. You actually make it to the final purchase screen

 

#1. Place your order

#2. Opps something went wrong!

#3. Goto B else "That item is currently unavailable"

 

This can happen over and over and over again.

 

This was me earlier:

 

I could not get one either. It sucks. I’ll keep trying. 

I got in the queue 3 times. And it always gave an error, or said out of stock. 
 

automatic dice

 

[electrosoft]

1 minute ago, tps3443 said:

I could not get one either. It sucks. I’ll keep trying. 

I got in the queue 3 times. And it always gave an error, or said out of stock. 
 

automatic dice

 

 

Yep, BB hell. Nevermind the fact they're the only one with FE cards in the US.

 

On a related note:

 

 Whew, managed to score an FE 5080!

 

The order I pressed to confirm earlier that said "opps! there's a problem" and it went out of stock on BB like 90 min ago? I just got an update it was processed with an order number and is now in my order history.

 

One down......

 

One to go....

 

Maybe....

 

🤣

 

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I never made it to that point with the FE 5090.

 

B&H hasn't launched their cards yet so keep an eye out on them too.

 

As I'm sure you witnessed, Newegg sold out so fast it gave me whiplash.

 

 

[jaybee83]

no luck here yet either! but pages are getting fast again, ppl are giving up. now is the time to stay at it 😄 

[Mr. Fox]

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

As you know. He think he is perfect in his own mind.

He is definitely a legend in his own mind.

 

Here is a pictorial representation of abject stupidity in terms of pricing. Ridiculous.

 

[Papusan]

All 7 cards sold out here in Norway. 7 cards divided into 5,5 million citizens. 

[jaybee83]

here so far 12 confirmed 5090s sold 😄 

 

edit: correction, were up to 14! whoa!

[electrosoft]

I can now safely return my 4070 Super if I so desire. I have till the 2nd...

 

$1012 after BB rewards almost half the cost of my 4090 for the bulk of its performance.

 

 

 

NOW the big hunt continues......

 

@jaybee83 I'm looking around to see if I can find anyone online who scored an MSI Suprim 5090 of any kind yet.

[jaybee83]

Tally is up to 31x 5090s sold. Also saw a guy who successfully ordered two MSI cards in switzerland 😄