*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Maybe the bigger question is how you can tell if he is not lying. 🤣 Or, when does he ever tell the truth about anything? He seems to enjoy using scams and gimmicks to sell overpriced NVIDIA products.

 

Here is something different to distract us from Jensen's nonsense.

 

 

I think it’s best to upgrade after all of the excitement wears off. Best time will be about 5-6 months before RTX 6090 series drops. That’s what I plan to do anyways. Nvidia is ridiculous though. Sad that they cannot manufacture a product at large scale at all. So essentially waiting 2 years for

enough of them to appear is the only way to actually buy one at a reasonable price. 
 

But even then, they’ll still be $2,000-$2,200 dollars used on overclock.net in about 2 years. Thats a reasonable discount from the typical $2,700-$3,000 right now. 

The GPU market is toast though, that’s for sure. Crazy how just a high end GPU turned in to the price of a whole gaming PC or gaming laptop. 

 

[electrosoft]

19 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I received my 4090 laptop in the mail today. This was purchased with funds intended for an RTX 5090. However, since the RTX 5090 does not actually exist, (I’m not really near any local stores to really buy one) so I just gave up with trying to buy one online, and moved on with life. With my job, I’m finding my self having to stay at my desk 7a-7p. It’s paying well. But getting promoted to an operations manager requires me to play at a level of pure beast mode/be the best mode/no excuses allowed. 😂 So, I really needed a laptop for constant monitoring and check-in’s etc. 
 

First impressions: 

 

incredible panel! 😱 .. It’s just like OLED, maybe even better sometimes since it’s 1,000 nits bright and all.. No back light bleeding anywhere, I don’t even see any glowing at all. It’s 250Hz/ 16:10 aspect ratio, and 2560x1600/ Mini LED. So it’s really beautiful! You can run the brightness on 5% and it looks perfectly normal brightness like a regular monitor lol. 
 

CPU: 14900HX, feels very fast just using the machine. With fans silent it’s idling about 55-60c while downloading a game on Steam. With fans at 100% it’s not too bad. It’s LOUD! But the pitch and tone of the noise doesn’t make it annoying at all. It’s just noisy. But not annoying. 
 

GPU: Haven’t really gotten an opportunity to really use it just yet. But I’m expecting good things. It’s a 175w 4090 Mobile. 
 

Performance: So, I’m not expecting 4090 desktop power here obviously. But, it has DLSS3, and Frame Gen, and it’s 2560x1600! If my old 3090 Kingpin had frame Gen, I’d have never sold it! These are amazing features to have. Since Nvidia and AIB’s a like just recently killed the affordable gaming market for average people like me all together, buying a 4090 laptop seemed like the only way to go. Since even a RTX 5090 laptop MSI Raider will set you back an eye watering $5,000+ after taxes. 

 

Value: It’s a $2,000 dollar laptop. So, I think it’s going to offer a great value for what you get. A whole computer capable of decent gaming performance that is portable. 

 

Overall: This is a BIG laptop being 18 inches. I’ve never owned an 18” laptop before. The screen doesn’t feel like I’m squinting or leaning forward to find things like my last 15” laptop. And the 16:10 offers a little more desktop space to get things done. 
 

 

I really like the machine.

 

 

Welcome to the big screen brigade! I'm telling ya it is painful traveling and working on a smaller screen. I did lug an 18" external USB-C powered panel with me before with the NH55 which worked great! The panel quality was sus but 18" 1080p was very nice to have vs 15.6" 1080p.

 

I come from the generation of carrying around Compaq luggables that weighed 18-20lbs easily and I loved 'em!

 

Like I said before, my favorite second laptop of all time (ironically AMD CPU powered again) was the M-ALX from Alienware pre Dell. Loved that 19" behemoth. 🙂

 

First will always be the P870 series. That was magic times from my first P870DM to my last P870TM from HID.

 

18 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Man, I will have your family in my prayers for a speedy recovery, brother. Some things like this were an annoyance when we were healthy young people and they hit us harder as we mature, even if we remain very healthy and strong. Our defenses are not as robust as they once were. 

It's a long shot, but rather than assume it is better to ask. By chance have you seen there is an updated version of MSI Afterburner? I did not know until recently because I disable the automatic checking for all OS, drivers, firmware and software updates and never check for updates manually for anything unless I encounter a problem of some sort. I just discovered a week or two ago that there was a more recent version that dropped after RTX 50-series launched.

 

4.6.6 (Beta5) Released : Feb 2025

 

Thanks brother!  I was running that version. Before, I actually installed Rivatuner externally because the newest beta was newer than the included version, but with the newest beta AB, the rivatuner included was actually newer and still no luck.

 

 

16 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Do you all think it is worth buying this extended warranty on this device? It is expiring in a few days. This was an Acer recertified device with a very short warranty. And it is expiring very soon, less than 2 weeks left. 

This extended warranty cost $207 dollars with a promotion through Acer. 

I do not typically buy extended warranties. But, with this being a costly and decent machine and all, I would love to hear input on this. Thanks everyone!

Acer Predator 18”
Mini LED 250hz
Intel 14900HX+RTX4090
32GB DDR5/ 1TB M.2

 

Absolutely get the extended warranty. The 3-yr extended warranty was actually the final selling point that pushed me to pick up @win32asmguy MSI Raider 18 as it will be my daily driver for next few years and a good warranty is a must.

 

Remember back in the day with Alienware laptops? The Dellcare warranties paid for themselves over and over especially the 5yr warranties.

 

33 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I think it’s best to upgrade after all of the excitement wears off. Best time will be about 5-6 months before RTX 6090 series drops. That’s what I plan to do anyways. Nvidia is ridiculous though. Sad that they cannot manufacture a product at large scale at all. So essentially waiting 2 years for

enough of them to appear is the only way to actually buy one at a reasonable price. 
 

But even then, they’ll still be $2,000-$2,200 dollars used on overclock.net in about 2 years. Thats a reasonable discount from the typical $2,700-$3,000 right now. 

The GPU market is toast though, that’s for sure. Crazy how just a high end GPU turned in to the price of a whole gaming PC or gaming laptop. 

 

 

Or just ride your 4090 till a xx80 class beats it and then settle into that class. Alternatively, you can try to find the sweet spot for used but the prices are just insane until it implodes.

 

I think once (hopefully) AI hits a wall and/or AMD makes a meaningful attack, the future will be a smidge brighter.

 

The fact we're waiting and lamenting for 5090's to be available for "MSRP" which already is insanely high is telling.

 

 

[tps3443]

6 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Welcome to the big screen brigade! I'm telling ya it is painful traveling and working on a smaller screen. I did lug an 18" external USB-C powered panel with me before with the NH55 which worked great! The panel quality was sus but 18" 1080p was very nice to have vs 15.6" 1080p.

 

I come from the generation of carrying around Compaq luggables that weighed 18-20lbs easily and I loved 'em!

 

Like I said before, my favorite second laptop of all time (ironically AMD CPU powered again) was the M-ALX from Alienware pre Dell. Loved that 19" behemoth. 🙂

 

First will always be the P870 series. That was magic times from my first P870DM to my last P870TM from HID.

 

 

Thanks brother!  I was running that version. Before, I actually installed Rivatuner externally because the newest beta was newer than the included version, but with the newest beta AB, the rivatuner included was actually newer and still no luck.

 

 

 

Absolutely get the extended warranty. The 3-yr extended warranty was actually the final selling point that pushed me to pick up @win32asmguy MSI Raider 18 as it will be my daily driver for next few years and a good warranty is a must.

 

Remember back in the day with Alienware laptops? The Dellcare warranties paid for themselves over and over especially the 5yr warranties.

 

 

Or just ride your 4090 till a xx80 class beats it and then settle into that class. Alternatively, you can try to find the sweet spot for used but the prices are just insane until it implodes.

 

I think once (hopefully) AI hits a wall and/or AMD makes a meaningful attack, the future will be a smidge brighter.

 

The fact we're waiting and lamenting for 5090's to be available for "MSRP" which already is insanely high is telling.

 

 

I plan to investigate my thermal paste/putty on this laptop. I know this machine has thermal putty from the factory, and Liquid Metal. So, I’m going to redo these. 
 

Under a 99% GPU load what temp does your GPU run on your laptop? Mine seems to be at a 84-86 wall playing KDC2. But man, it’s so butter smooth. Not hitching at all. But I feel like it could be better. 

[electrosoft]

3 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I plan to investigate my thermal paste/putty on this laptop. I know this machine has thermal putty from the factory, and Liquid Metal. So, I’m going to redo these. 
 

Under a 99% GPU load what temp does your GPU run on your laptop? Mine seems to be at a 84-86 wall playing KDC2. But man, it’s so butter smooth. Not hitching at all. But I feel like it could be better. 

 

I'll have to get back in there and load up my chosen benchmark spot in WoW which pushes every GPU so far to 99% I've tested including my previous 4090 consistently but I remember playing during vacation noting the MSI had much better temps than the Scar 18 I tested and that was running a 4080 but 7945HX3D vs 13980 / 14900 might not be a fair comparison since they share cooling.

 

 

[tps3443]

5 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I'll have to get back in there and load up my chosen benchmark spot in WoW which pushes every GPU so far to 99% I've tested including my previous 4090 consistently but I remember playing during vacation noting the MSI had much better temps than the Scar 18 I tested and that was running a 4080 but 7945HX3D vs 13980 / 14900 might not be a fair comparison since they share cooling.

 

 

Just checked my CPU temps with HWinfo in a game, and my Liquid Metal application is probably bad or not very good at all on this machine. I am not sure how shipping may affect this. But I set 100% fan speeds, reset HWinfo, and then started gaming, my CPU is still hitting 98c in KDC2. So I’m going to take this heatsink off today and check it out and hopefully get that fixed. I would have had no idea if I hadn’t checked my self. 
 

[electrosoft]

6 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Just checked my CPU temps with HWinfo in a game, and my Liquid Metal application is probably bad or not very good at all on this machine. I am not sure how shipping may affect this. But I set 100% fan speeds, reset HWinfo, and then started gaming, my CPU is still hitting 98c in KDC2. So I’m going to take this heatsink off today and check it out and hopefully get that fixed. I would have had no idea if I hadn’t checked my self. 
 

 

Remember, this is laptop cooling and RPL. Ever since 12th gen, these beasts routinely spike to 95+ if not 100+ and that is "normal."

 

I'm not saying the LM application / cooling overall couldn't use some loving, but you will need to not only do that but also find a way to UV that 14900HX to get it under control. Also, silicon quality comes into play.

 

On both my Scar 18's with 13980HX's, the modest BIOS 0.080 UV was absolutely mandatory and more would have helped if able.

 

You will need to research how to enable (if able) Throttlestop for that Acer to get it under control after having exhausted every option opening it up and tuning it up physically hardware wise. That is your first step because I can guarantee that 14900HX is sucking down way more than it needs.

 

On this MSI, the CPU never even approaches thermal throttling nor the GPU so that's not even an issue and I haven't even re-tuned everything BIOS wise after the latest BIOS upgrade which means things can only go up. This newest BIOS update really makes it viable to run right out of the box as is. I am unsure what issues/problems @win32asmguy had to address via the BIOS before but having used it complete stock/optimized defaults with this newest BIOS update the last few weeks with a clean install on the road, I've had zero issues, zero overheating and it was just smooth sailing (minus the covid of course lol).

 

 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I think it’s best to upgrade after all of the excitement wears off. Best time will be about 5-6 months before RTX 6090 series drops. That’s what I plan to do anyways.

 

Hmmm. If you want/need one of the 5000 series card and live in US you have to buy today. Not next week, next month or next year. 5000 series cards is cheap now if you can find some near MSRP. Or just ride out what you already have. Worse for those that sold their 4000 series card for cheap before 5000 series launch.

 

And just look at 4000 series card prices. They are sky high. Expect the same for 5090 when the 6000 series is out. And nvidia don't mind that the Chinese upgrade their cards. They probably do a great business help selling overpriced vram chips.

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with upgraded 96GB VRAM teased: could release soon for AI workloads

Nvidia RTX 5070 Founders Edition won't be available on launch day, coming 'later in March'

Yet another rehash from Nvidia.

 

Edit. 

It might be hard to imagine even worse GPU prices but the CEOs of Best Buy and Target both predict tariffs will push consumer prices up and fast

 

 

Don't be surprised if you see AMD also screw up .... Remember this is the norm.

VRAM temperature issues with AMD RX 9000?

 

In short, it remains to be seen what causes this problem. As our colleague reminds us, memory chips can withstand the following maximum temperatures:

 

• Micron: 105°C
• SK Hynix: 105°C
• Samsung: 95°C

 

[win32asmguy]

4 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Just checked my CPU temps with HWinfo in a game, and my Liquid Metal application is probably bad or not very good at all on this machine. I am not sure how shipping may affect this. But I set 100% fan speeds, reset HWinfo, and then started gaming, my CPU is still hitting 98c in KDC2. So I’m going to take this heatsink off today and check it out and hopefully get that fixed. I would have had no idea if I hadn’t checked my self. 

 

I would not be surprise if the LM application had issues. High end machines are not treated better when it comes to assembly at a factory. No vendor should be using LM from the factory anyways as it requires far more care than a mass produced process can account for. Instead they should just use ptm7958sp which while being less performant will always be consistent unless you get a defective heatsink.

 

1 minute ago, electrosoft said:

On this MSI, the CPU never even approaches thermal throttling nor the GPU so that's not even an issue and I haven't even re-tuned everything BIOS wise after the latest BIOS upgrade which means things can only go up. This newest BIOS update really makes it viable to run right out of the box as is. I am unsure what issues/problems @win32asmguy had to address via the BIOS before but having used it complete stock/optimized defaults with this newest BIOS update the last few weeks with a clean install on the road, I've had zero issues, zero overheating and it was just smooth sailing (minus the covid of course lol).

 

I am glad it has been working very well for you! I always buy and sell laptops so it just happened to be its time. I think most of the issues I had with it is due to trying to use W10 instead of W11. Maybe the new bios update finally bumped the AgesaPI version from 1.0.0.3. I also kind of felt like a 100W PPT limit on the 7945HX3D was unfair while there are 16 inch Lenovo, Asus and Dell laptops with 7945HX at 140W. The RGB effects topped it off as I cannot stand a "boot default" of anything other than a static color. In past MSI Steelseries RGB controllers they had onboard memory but that no longer seems the case.

 

Oh, and it looks like MSI bumped the Raider 18 with 9955HX3D and 5090m up to $5099 so it further makes last years model a better value!

[Mr. Fox]

@electrosoft is right on the Dell/Alienware extended warranty paying for itself over and over again. It's not likely that you will get the same level of service with another brand. As many things as they do half-assed or poorly, their warranty service is probably still the best. Unfortunate that their products are not the best, but at least you don't have to worry about getting jerked around as much. For every 5 year extended warranty I have owned (from Dell/Alienware) I had parts replaced for free numerous times and complete system exchanges (usually upgrades) multiple times. YMMV when it comes to dealing with scummy companies like ASUS, Acer, Gigabyte and MSI. Getting prompt and good quality service it not likely, but having your out-of-pocket costs covered is still wise.

 

I used to never buy extended warranties, but anything that is expensive to replace with electronics that you plan to keep longer than the standard warranty is frequently going to pay for itself. Even household appliances. We have purchased expensive Maytag and Kenmore front-loading washers and driers for many years and always purchase the longest extended warranty. Ever time it has paid for itself. The Maytag Neptune washer we owned for like 10 years had the electronics motherboard replaced like 4 or 5 times and the cost of the warranty for 5 years was less than paying out of pocket for it one time. The Neptune drier never needed to use the warranty. We also purchase a home warranty each year and that pays for itself almost every year with a failure or repair of HVAC, kitchen stove, water heater or something else. If you get the better packages they cover normal wear and tear, even for things like your garage door breaking or the garage door opener failing, water heater failing, etc. They cover the parts and labor (or replacement) minus a small deductible, just like an insurance policy.

 

So many things made today are "disposable" trash products with no parts available. We have often had easily repairable products replaced with new only because the parts are not sold or they are discontinued within a year or two and no longer serviced. The manufacturers only want to sell new products. They do not want to sell any parts to repair what they previously sold. Most people don't buy the extended warranty. That sucks, but the extended warranty allows you to take advantage of their dishonest approach to business. That's the world we live in now.

 

As far as GPUs go, I am starting to feel like I am even more done caring their screwed up messes than I am with motherboards and CPUs. They are so grossly overvalued that what they have to offer in terms of features and performance no longer matters because the price is so out of scope with the value that it is foolish to pay for it. I am at the point that downgraded seems like the smart thing to do even though it goes against my natural inclination. Gaming and benching are fun things to do, but I would rather just turn down the quality settings and spend a more sane and reasonable amount for something merely adequate than to get screwed over paying out the nose to own the best because the price doesn't scale with value and performance level. If the price and performance do not scale at a similar percentage, or slightly higher on the performance side than the price the product instantly becomes a foolish purchase. If I am going to be dumb enough to spend 30-50% more for the flagship GPU it needs to deliver (at minimum) 30-50% more performance proportionally, in areas that actually matter, than the next best model or it's just a scam and a product that is not worth buying. Paying extra just for the satisfaction of claiming that you paid extra to own the best is simply not a good enough reason to buy it, and not a very intelligent way of doing things.

[electrosoft]

Retested and still popping positive, but feeling well enough to move around so......

 

Spent last night slowly swapping over to the 9800X3D. Once I had the case broke down I realized that LF II 420 AIO has been mounted and uncleaned since 2021 🤢

 

Broke the entire case down, complete cleaning. Soaked the rad ( crazy but it had a complete wall of crud and it was still performing beautifully), cleaned the fans nice and sparkly new.

 

Redid the rear wiring so I could actually put the back panel back on.

 

Aesthetically, everything really matches nicely with each other

 

I also spent awhile taking measurements and putting the 420 and a 360 rad I had in various positions to start laying the groundwork for the loop that is on deck to see if I want to stick with this monster case or maybe look for a different style. I want to go with a 420 in front and a 360 on the bottom and maybe avoid the top and run the case open framed as is but a top rad might  for shorter and cleaner runs from the CPU so we'll see. The bottom has the room for a super thick 360 while still having room for a floor mount pump/res (sitting in box brand new) or space off the back fan mounting area.

 

I'm still looking all over the place for the missing I/O slats.....

 

 

 

 

I had already tested/ tuned everything before I left for vacation. Here are my final memory tuning 2200/6400 on 1003 (1004 is available, but unless I find a reason to upgrade, I'm good). I tested four sets of sticks:

 

TG 8200 2x24GB

G.skill 2x24GB 6400

Crucial 6400 2x16GB

G.Skill 2x32GB (aka "le grand échec") 🤣

 

 

TG sticks were vastly superior to all of them followed by a distant second G.Skill 2x24GB (decent little bit of tuning in these) an even more distant 3rd Crucial 6400 (these sticks had absolutely nothing to give) and lastly those defective G.skill 2x32GB sticks.

 

 

 

The wife, even in her weakened state, is balking at the tiny Z790i Lightning motherboard. She likes the aesthetics of the Asus D4 Z690 so I'm unsure if I'm going to do a major upgrade to her system. I might just end up selling off that MB and CPU (14900KS SP109) but we'll see.

 

[Mr. Fox]

14 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Retested and still popping positive, but feeling well enough to move around so......

Awesome. Happy to hear you are feeling better. I hope the wife having the energy to balk is a sign she is feeling better, too.

14 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Spent last night slowly swapping over to the 9800X3D. Once I had the case broke down I realized that LF II 420 AIO has been mounted and uncleaned since 2021 🤢

 

Broke the entire case down, complete cleaning. Soaked the rad ( crazy but it had a complete wall of crud and it was still performing beautifully), cleaned the fans nice and sparkly new.

 

Redid the rear wiring so I could actually put the back panel back on.

 

Aesthetically, everything really matches nicely with each other

 

I also spent awhile taking measurements and putting the 420 and a 360 rad I had in various positions to start laying the groundwork for the loop that is on deck to see if I want to stick with this monster case or maybe look for a different style. I want to go with a 420 in front and a 360 on the bottom and maybe avoid the top and run the case open framed as is but a top rad might  for shorter and cleaner runs from the CPU so we'll see. The bottom has the room for a super thick 360 while still having room for a floor mount pump/res (sitting in box brand new) or space off the back fan mounting area.

 

I'm still looking all over the place for the missing I/O slats.....

 

 

 

Looks really good, bro.

 

If you are thinking about another case, the be quiet! Light Base 900 LX has caught my attention. I love that it offers more than inversion. The horizontal motherboard option is always the best when it is available. I came close to buying one on an impulse and decided not to. But, if I needed a case I probably would just for the horizontal orientation option. Jay's video shows it in the horizontal orientation I would choose. Most of the other videos do not, but it is Tom Logan's favorite case.
 

As usual... black looks best to me.

 

[tps3443]

Feels like the old days!! Packed in a bunch of thermal putty, added some fresh Noctua NH2 on the GPU core, and redid the Liquid Metal on the 14900HX, polished with Flitz, re-applied on heatsink and die.. MUCH BETTER! I had re-assembled everything and these little tape flaps had covered the heatsink so essentially no air could Pass through the heatsink fins at all. The fans were going full blast and barely any air came out of the back or sides of the laptop. I learned my mistake after taking it apart again. 
 

 

My RTX 4090 mobile was throttling like crazy before even with Turbo fans on hitting 86c SUB 2,000Mhz. Now it runs 69-71c 2,400Mhz!!! 😄

 

The CPU dropped a good bit as well. So this is really good. It seems to be averaging 71-85c in games on all CPU cores. CPU Package before was 107c, now it’s down to 98c package max. But it’s sending way more BOOST. So it has just taken the new temp head room, and filled it with higher average CPU clocks and higher average CPU voltage, and higher CPU wattage 🥴. But it’s okay. It is running so much better. The CPU and GPU temp reduction is very substantial. 
 

[electrosoft]

33 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Feels like the old days!! Packed in a bunch of thermal putty, added some fresh Noctua NH2 on the GPU core, and redid the Liquid Metal on the 14900HX, polished with Flitz, re-applied on heatsink and die.. MUCH BETTER! I had re-assembled everything and these little tape flaps had covered the heatsink so essentially no air could Pass through the heatsink fins at all. The fans were going full blast and barely any air came out of the back or sides of the laptop. I learned my mistake after taking it apart again. 
 

 

My RTX 4090 mobile was throttling like crazy before even with Turbo fans on hitting 86c SUB 2,000Mhz. Now it runs 69-71c 2,400Mhz!!! 😄

 

The CPU dropped a good bit as well. So this is really good. It seems to be averaging 71-85c in games on all CPU cores. CPU Package before was 107c, now it’s down to 98c package max. But it’s sending way more BOOST. So it has just taken the new temp head room, and filled it with higher average CPU clocks and higher average CPU voltage, and higher CPU wattage 🥴. But it’s okay. It is running so much better. The CPU and GPU temp reduction is very substantial. 
 

 

Nice!

 

And yep, that's exactly how 12th on up will respond. They boost till throttle as is so that better cooling= more performance.

 

If you can get TS / XTU running somehow, you can dial in an UV and get even more performance out of it.

 

Did you get some before screen shots/ data to throw up to compare directly with after?

 

 

[tps3443]

10 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Nice!

 

And yep, that's exactly how 12th on up will respond. They boost till throttle as is so that better cooling= more performance.

 

If you can get TS / XTU running somehow, you can dial in an UV and get even more performance out of it.

 

Did you get some before screen shots/ data to throw up to compare directly with after?

 

 

No, I didn’t gather any data. I just watched the CPU clocks and CPU temps, CPU power. And also GPU temps, GPU boost, GPU power etc. It’s a day and night difference that’s for sure. 
 

I’m running auto fan profile, and gaming at max performance mode right now, and it’s pretty quiet. You can hear it, but it’s not super loud like before. Low fan RPM, and just boiling hot air coming out of the vents. So, the re-paste worked very well.
 

It’s a VERY nice experience when gaming. I’ll look in to undervolting next. 

[Raiderman]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

 

I come from the generation of carrying around Compaq luggables that weighed 18-20lbs easily and I loved 'em!

 

 

 

 

I come from the generation of lugging a viewsonic 19" CRT to Lan parties that weighed in excess of 40lbs, full tower with 4 HDD's striped etc. Oh what fun it was though!

[electrosoft]

16 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

I come from the generation of lugging a viewsonic 19" CRT to Lan parties that weighed in excess of 40lbs, full tower with 4 HDD's striped etc. Oh what fun it was though!

 

lol, that's my generation too!

 

I used to attend any and all Quake based cons and lan meet ups back in the day and had a Sony 21" and a monster tower fully loaded!

 

I miss those days too. So much fun. I couldn't wait for each year's DCcon where we Quake'd for 3-4 days in a row culminating in a 1v1 tourney.....

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

I come from the generation of lugging a viewsonic 19" CRT to Lan parties that weighed in excess of 40lbs, full tower with 4 HDD's striped etc. Oh what fun it was though!

 

49 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

lol, that's my generation too!

 

I used to attend any and all Quake based cons and lan meet ups back in the day and had a Sony 21" and a monster tower fully loaded!

 

I miss those days too. So much fun. I couldn't wait for each year's DCcon where we Quake'd for 3-4 days in a row culminating in a 1v1 tourney.....

Bigger laptops and bigger desktops are always the best choice.

 

For many years this was the only computer case I would use. I still like them a lot. And, they were extremely heavy steel. Built like a Snap-On mechanic's toolbox that needed to be empty or use a forklift to move it with tools in all of the drawers. You could beat on it with a hammer and barely hurt it.

 

https://www.newegg.com/black-chieftec-dragon-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811160027

[Papusan]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

For many years this was the only computer case I would use. I still like them a lot. And, they were extremely heavy steel. Built like a Snap-On mechanic's toolbox that needed to be empty or use a forklift to move it with tools in all of the drawers. You could beat on it with a hammer and barely hurt it.

 

https://www.newegg.com/black-chieftec-dragon-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811160027

 

Hmm. I also had this one before I swapped over to Lian Li and Asetek phase change cooler for well over 20 years ago. Damn I'm getting old😁 

 

That chassis was the high end around 2001-2002. And nice black.

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Nice!

 

And yep, that's exactly how 12th on up will respond. They boost till throttle as is so that better cooling= more performance.

 

If you can get TS / XTU running somehow, you can dial in an UV and get even more performance out of it.

 

Did you get some before screen shots/ data to throw up to compare directly with after?

 

 

XTU is locked up pretty good, I do not think I can under volt this thing at all. That is kind of unfortunate. 

[Mr. Fox]

24 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Hmm. I also had this one before I swapped over to Lian Li and Asetek phase change cooler for well over 20 years ago. Damn I'm getting old😁 

 

That chassis was the high end around 2001-2002. And nice black.

I would have guessed that. We are close to the same age and think much the same. And, we both remember what awesome actually meant. Now anything that doesn't suck really bad qualifies as being awesome.

14 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

XTU is locked up pretty good, I do not think I can under volt this thing at all. That is kind of unfortunate. 

Welcome to modern turdbook hell. You paid for it, but they still own it and decide everything for you. So, in that way they own you, too.

[Papusan]

28 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

XTU is locked up pretty good, I do not think I can under volt this thing at all. That is kind of unfortunate. 

 

Tried with Throttlestop? Happy I don't have to deal  with this anymore.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/

 

26 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I would have guessed that. We are close to the same age and think much the same. And, we both remember what awesome actually meant. Now anything that doesn't suck really bad qualifies as being awesome.

 

I found the pict of the system 🙂 Sorry for the bad pict quality. I still use the trashy cheap Android phone I bought for the summer vaccation last year.

 

 

[tps3443]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I would have guessed that. We are close to the same age and think much the same. And, we both remember what awesome actually meant. Now anything that doesn't suck really bad qualifies as being awesome.

Welcome to modern turdbook hell. You paid for it, but they still own it and decide everything for you. So, in that way they own you, too.

 

19 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Tried with Throttlestop? Happy I don't have to deal  with this anymore.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/

Yeah I cannot undervolt at all. I am at the mercy of the Auto voltage. 

[Papusan]

3 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

 

Yeah I cannot undervolt at all. I am at the mercy of the Auto voltage. 

 

Only one thing to do....😁

 

[tps3443]

17 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Only one thing to do....😁

 

Oh, I don't really care. I am kind of done with overclocking anyways. I am just going to use it for work. Everything sucks nowadays. Nothing much we can do. 

[Papusan]

18 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Oh, I don't really care. I am kind of done with overclocking anyways. I am just going to use it for work. Everything sucks nowadays. Nothing much we can do. 

 

Yep, you'll need that extended warranty😎 

 

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