*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

18 hours ago, johnksss said:

Furmark must be unlocked or something for FE as mine will under no circumstances go higher that 625W@4K and 950W@1080P

 

OCCT software should be able to max out the power from the GPU. Higher voltage the better😁

 

 

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Only for the very few that belong to  the elite. Sub 5. You others ain't worth it....

 

Only for the very few chosen ones... 5090D (HOF) is banned from sale due the US chips ban, yet this is the GPU they promote the brands products. Even Nvidia should be happy. Almost as free advertising for nvidia and the AIB partner. Just give them a couple of top binned parts, special XOC firmware and XOC tool kit and there you go. 

 

No, you can’t do this at home. Not because it’s not recommended or we don’t believe in your overclocking skills. It’s because achieving similar results requires NVIDIA’s support through a special XOC (Extreme OC) BIOS, which is only provided to select overclockers. It would also require a very specic graphics card and exotic cooling.

 

You only need to make 5 cards with all the bells and whistles. Yep, only for the very few chosen ones. 

 

Overclockers push RTX 5090D with dual 16-pin connectors and XOC BIOS to 3650 MHz

 

[tps3443]

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

OCCT software should be able to max out the power from the GPU. Higher voltage the better😁

 

 

 

Only for the very few chosen ones... 5090D (HOF) is banned from sale due the US chips ban, yet this is the GPU they promote the brands products. Even Nvidia should be happy. Almost as free advertising for nvidia and the AIB partner. Just give them a couple of top binned parts, special XOC firmware and XOC tool kit and there you go. 

 

No, you can’t do this at home. Not because it’s not recommended or we don’t believe in your overclocking skills. It’s because achieving similar results requires NVIDIA’s support through a special XOC (Extreme OC) BIOS, which is only provided to select overclockers. It would also require a very specic graphics card and exotic cooling.

 

You only need to make 5 cards with all the bells and whistles. Yep, only for the very few chosen ones. 

 

Overclockers push RTX 5090D with dual 16-pin connectors and XOC BIOS to 3650 MHz

 

You know, I think Nvidia put a hit out on poor ole KEFI, he hasn’t been seen since breaking in to NVflasher and allowing all 4090FE’s to be flashed for 1.100v 🤣 So either he’s locked in a room with a bag on his head, or he’s buried somewhere. 

 

Also, he killed that poor 4090 with 1,500 watts 🤣. I think the 5090 might be just a little stronger to such high power though, I’ve looped mine in stability test at 900w with no issues at all.
 

Also, I ordered a wall meter, so I’ll be able to test the power consumption TODAY. But I feel pretty confident my power draw results are close. But we’ll see today. It’s throwing “pwr limit” at 570 watts which is about 1,140 watts inside of Furmark 4K at 3,255Mhz. If that’s actually 1400 watts that is terrifying because it means my PSU might just have a very short life. 

[Mr. Fox]

38 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

If that’s actually 1400 watts that is terrifying because it means my PSU might just have a very short life. 

It might be terrifying when your wife gets the electric bill if you are doing a lot of that. 

[electrosoft]

47 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

You know, I think Nvidia put a hit out on poor ole KEFI, he hasn’t been seen since breaking in to NVflasher and allowing all 4090FE’s to be flashed for 1.100v 🤣 So either he’s locked in a room with a bag on his head, or he’s buried somewhere. 

 

Also, he killed that poor 4090 with 1,500 watts 🤣. I think the 5090 might be just a little stronger to such high power though, I’ve looped mine in stability test at 900w with no issues at all.
 

Also, I ordered a wall meter, so I’ll be able to test the power consumption TODAY. But I feel pretty confident my power draw results are close. But we’ll see today. It’s throwing “pwr limit” at 570 watts which is about 1,140 watts inside of Furmark 4K at 3,255Mhz. If that’s actually 1400 watts that is terrifying because it means my PSU might just have a very short life. 

 

We're still only 6 months in to the 5090 cycle so hopefully some tools and flashing love will make its way to the 5090s including the FE for some XOC love in.

 

I'm not doubting your calculations. It just seems to be a staple item in just about ever OC'ers box of tools for manual/physical readout vs software sensor readings. Another tool in the arsenal and dirt cheap.

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

We're still only 6 months in to the 5090 cycle so hopefully some tools and flashing love will make its way to the 5090s including the FE for some XOC love in.

 

I'm not doubting your calculations. It just seems to be a staple item in just about ever OC'ers box of tools for manual/physical readout vs software sensor readings. Another tool in the arsenal and dirt cheap.

Even if the calculations are spot-on based on 2 x GPU driver reported power draw, it is useful to know how much total power your machine is pulling from the wall. It is usually surprising to see how all of the components, including fans, pumps, drives, RGB, etc. pile up into the total system from-grid power utilization. You can also spot (by just looking at the meter) when something is off if your idle and low use power consumption from the wall is suddenly higher than normal, which is helpful. 

[jaybee83]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

You know, I think Nvidia put a hit out on poor ole KEFI, he hasn’t been seen since breaking in to NVflasher and allowing all 4090FE’s to be flashed for 1.100v 🤣 So either he’s locked in a room with a bag on his head, or he’s buried somewhere. 

 

Also, he killed that poor 4090 with 1,500 watts 🤣. I think the 5090 might be just a little stronger to such high power though, I’ve looped mine in stability test at 900w with no issues at all.
 

Also, I ordered a wall meter, so I’ll be able to test the power consumption TODAY. But I feel pretty confident my power draw results are close. But we’ll see today. It’s throwing “pwr limit” at 570 watts which is about 1,140 watts inside of Furmark 4K at 3,255Mhz. If that’s actually 1400 watts that is terrifying because it means my PSU might just have a very short life. 

 

ooor they just hired him 😛 😄 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

You know, I think Nvidia put a hit out on poor ole KEFI, he hasn’t been seen since breaking in to NVflasher and allowing all 4090FE’s to be flashed for 1.100v 🤣 Also, he killed that poor 4090 with 1,500 watts 🤣. I think the 5090 might be just a little stronger to such high power though, I’ve looped mine in stability test at 900w with no issues at all.
 

Also, I ordered a wall meter, so I’ll be able to test the power consumption TODAY. But I feel pretty confident my power draw results are close. But we’ll see today. It’s throwing “pwr limit” at 570 watts which is about 1,140 watts inside of Furmark 4K at 3,255Mhz. If that’s actually 1400 watts that is terrifying because it means my PSU might just have a very short life. 

 

Remember the 5090 is a lot bigger. Easier to cool. 

 

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

We're still only 6 months in to the 5090 cycle so hopefully some tools and flashing love will make its way to the 5090s including the FE for some XOC love in.

 

I'm not doubting your calculations. It just seems to be a staple item in just about ever OC'ers box of tools for manual/physical readout vs software sensor readings. Another tool in the arsenal and dirt cheap.

 

 

With China ban on 5090D performance then expect that Nvidia won't come up with an 6090 with the first. We may have to wait at least 2.5 years before new generation graphics cards pop up. Just milk with what you have. And if AMD come up with a flagship card then just release a big fat boy with dual 12v-2*6 and 700-800w power target.

[electrosoft]

8 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

With China ban on 5090D performance then expect that Nvidia won't come up with an 6090 with the first. We may have to wait at least 2.5 years before new generation graphics cards pop up. Just milk with what you have. And if AMD come up with a flagship card then just release a big fat boy with dual 12v-2*6 and 700-800w power target.

 

Don't even know if it matters much with AMD based on Steam's new survey showing the dominant selling card is easily the 5070 with the 5080 and 5090 far distant but still making the chart and the 9070/xt didn't even make enough of a dent to get its own entry on the chart classified as "other" atm.... /facepalm

 

 

Nvidia  continues to rule the roost top to bottom but they still continue to make a fantastic product so it is hard to get people to jump to AMD. I completely understand.

 

AMD's biggest folly was not making a reference "control" card and not sticking to MSRP pricing. I said this before, but if pricing is close between a 9070xt and a 5070ti, I'm picking the 5070ti as would most unless you're sick of Nvidia and/or already a AMD supporter.

 

But clearly AMD did enough damage to get Nvidia on track faster to release the Super variants so there's that.

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

@johnksss I checked and same test shows 1,611 watts at the wall running furmark 4K on my 3.3Ghz 5090FE. My PSU is only a Lian Li Gold 1200 watt unit. So I guess it’s just busting ass really hard. 

 

Systems idles at 527 watts. 
 

 

[electrosoft]

21 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

@johnksss I checked and same test shows 1,611 watts at the wall running furmark 4K on my 3.3Ghz 5090FE. My PSU is only a Lian Li Gold 1200 watt unit. So I guess it’s just busting ass really hard. 

 

Systems idles at 527 watts. 
 

 

 

Shout out to Lian-Li! 😂

[Meaker]

On 7/4/2025 at 11:05 AM, Mr. Fox said:

Happy July 4th. Passage of the Big, Beautiful Bill will make this the best one I can remember and definitely reason for celebration of American Independence.

We will see, whatever your views the proof will be in the eating on that one.

 

23 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Do your clocks/voltage drop in Furmark 4K? That is interesting.

There is some execution detection going on and self limiting going on with certain instruction inputs.

[Meaker]

48 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Don't even know if it matters much with AMD based on Steam's new survey showing the dominant selling card is easily the 5070 with the 5080 and 5090 far distant but still making the chart and the 9070/xt didn't even make enough of a dent to get its own entry on the chart classified as "other" atm.... /facepalm

 

 

Nvidia  continues to rule the roost top to bottom but they still continue to make a fantastic product so it is hard to get people to jump to AMD. I completely understand.

 

AMD's biggest folly was not making a reference "control" card and not sticking to MSRP pricing. I said this before, but if pricing is close between a 9070xt and a 5070ti, I'm picking the 5070ti as would most unless you're sick of Nvidia and/or already a AMD supporter.

 

But clearly AMD did enough damage to get Nvidia on track faster to release the Super variants so there's that.

 

 

 

 

It's hard to really lay anything down on a fully sold out market. AMD ran through their stock as did Nvidia.

I got mine at MSRP and have found the drivers much better for my use case.

[Papusan]

53 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

@johnksss I checked and same test shows 1,611 watts at the wall running furmark 4K on my 3.3Ghz 5090FE. My PSU is only a Lian Li Gold 1200 watt unit. So I guess it’s just busting ass really hard. 

 

Systems idles at 527 watts. 
 

 

 

You have still some headroom🙂 LianLi offer OCP ar 122%. With 1611W from the wall and efficiency at 90% the power draw is around 1450W. 1450/1200 = 120% so within the OCP triggering points.

 

The 12V rail’s OCP triggering points are conservatively set, but this is not the case for the minor rails, where the corresponding OCP triggering points are set pretty high.

The Over Power Protection is set below 130% at normal temperatures and notably lower at high temperatures. 

 

https://hwbusters.com/psus/lian-li-eg1200g-atx-v3-1-psu-review/8/

 

30 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Shout out to Lian-Li! 😂

 

You mean a possible RMA request?😀 You normally do that after  the big bang. Not before, LOL

[Mr. Fox]

55 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Don't even know if it matters much with AMD based on Steam's new survey showing the dominant selling card is easily the 5070 with the 5080 and 5090 far distant but still making the chart and the 9070/xt didn't even make enough of a dent to get its own entry on the chart classified as "other" atm.... /facepalm

 

 

Nvidia  continues to rule the roost top to bottom but they still continue to make a fantastic product so it is hard to get people to jump to AMD. I completely understand.

 

AMD's biggest folly was not making a reference "control" card and not sticking to MSRP pricing. I said this before, but if pricing is close between a 9070xt and a 5070ti, I'm picking the 5070ti as would most unless you're sick of Nvidia and/or already a AMD supporter.

 

But clearly AMD did enough damage to get Nvidia on track faster to release the Super variants so there's that.

6 minutes ago, Meaker said:

It's hard to really lay anything down on a fully sold out market. AMD ran through their stock as did Nvidia.

I got mine at MSRP and have found the drivers much better for my use case.

That survey is only accurate to the extent it counts only those that respond to the survey when installing Steam for the first time and when it randomly appears. It does not reflect an accurate percentage of all Steam users because Steam is respectful and does not harvest that information without user permission. I always decline to participate when I am prompted. In other words, it is an accurate reflection of survey respondents, not all Steam users.

5 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

You have still some headroom🙂 LianLi offer OCP ar 122%. With 1611W and efficiency at 90% the power draw is around 1450W. 1450/1200 = 120% so within the OCP triggering points.

 

The 12V rail’s OCP triggering points are conservatively set, but this is not the case for the minor rails, where the corresponding OCP triggering points are set pretty high. 

 

https://hwbusters.com/psus/lian-li-eg1200g-atx-v3-1-psu-review/8/

In addition to the available PSU headroom, when @tps3443 is finished with the torturing of his GPU for entertainment purposes the normal use scenario will not be anywhere near what Furmark is doing to it.

[tps3443]

31 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Shout out to Lian-Li! 😂

I know right? SOLID PSU. 

 

19 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

You have still some headroom🙂 LianLi offer OCP ar 122%. With 1611W and efficiency at 90% the power draw is around 1450W. 1450/1200 = 120% so within the OCP triggering points.

 

The 12V rail’s OCP triggering points are conservatively set, but this is not the case for the minor rails, where the corresponding OCP triggering points are set pretty high. 

 

https://hwbusters.com/psus/lian-li-eg1200g-atx-v3-1-psu-review/8/

That what I want to hear. That’s great! I’m just gonna let it do its thing. Furmark 4K Burner is very unrealistic anyways. 

 

10 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That survey is only accurate to the extent it counts only those that respond to the survey when installing Steam for the first time and when it randomly appears. It does not reflect an accurate percentage of all Steam users because Steam is respectful and does not harvest that information without user permission. I always decline to participate when I am prompted. In other words, it is an accurate reflection of survey respondents, not all Steam users.

In addition to the available PSU headroom, when @tps3443 is finished with the torturing of his GPU for entertainment purposes the normal use scenario will not be anywhere near what Furmark is doing to it.

This only started to confirm if shunt was working properly. Update: Shunt working as intended. 

[Mr. Fox]

4 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

This only started to confirm if shunt was working properly. Update: Shunt working as intended. 

But now you know the whole story and have a better idea what is happening with power consumption. Even when it doesn't matter and you don't object to what you find out, you're better off knowing than having no idea. And, now you can explain to your wife why the sudden spike in the monthly power bill. 

 

You can also use those meters on other appliances around the house to see how much juice they are leeching.

[Meaker]

54 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

@johnksss I checked and same test shows 1,611 watts at the wall running furmark 4K on my 3.3Ghz 5090FE. My PSU is only a Lian Li Gold 1200 watt unit. So I guess it’s just busting ass really hard. 

 

Systems idles at 527 watts. 
 

 

Normally with shunt modding my concern is the VRMs but in this case it's the connector 😄

[Papusan]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

In addition to the available PSU headroom, when @tps3443 is finished with the torturing of his GPU for entertainment purposes the normal use scenario will not be anywhere near what Furmark is doing to it.

 

If he blow the PSU and it takes the GPU he could buy the new E-waste from Nvidia as replacement for time being😀 Only $250 if he don't go stupid and pay close to $300 for the top sku from Asus.

 

[Mr. Fox]

11 minutes ago, Meaker said:

Normally with shunt modding my concern is the VRMs but in this case it's the connector 😄

 

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

If he blow the PSU and it takes the GPU he could buy the new E-waste from Nvidia as replacement😀 Only $250 if he don't go stupid and pay close to $300 for the top sku from Asus.

 

@Meaker hit the nail on the head. The connector, not the PSU, is what needs to be carefully monitored. It is more likely to fail than the PSU.

 

Only fanboys pay more for ROG-branded PSUs and peripherals. The branding does nothing beneficial for anyone except for ASUS. They benefit by scalping their fanboys.

 

Edit: 5050 = 50/50 aka "half-a$$ed"

Edited July 7 by Mr. Fox
5050 comment

[tps3443]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

But now you know the whole story and have a better idea what is happening with power consumption. Even when it doesn't matter and you don't object to what you find out, you're better off knowing than having no idea. And, now you can explain to your wife why the sudden spike in the monthly power bill. 

 

You can also use those meters on other appliances around the house to see how much juice they are leeching.

Our worst power users are central A/C, and now the dehumidifier under the home. We had loads of condensation underneath the house in crawl space from the A/C. So we had to get a dehumidifier hooked up. Fortunately it keeps the home cooler as well. 
 

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

If he blow the PSU and it takes the GPU he could buy the new E-waste from Nvidia as replacement😀 Only $250 if he don't go stupid and pay close to $300 for the top sku from Asus.

 

What’s funny is, this means technically I managed to overclock my RTX 5090, and I squeezed more than a whole RTX 5050 out of it. 
 

RTX 5050 Steel Nomad FPS=22-23
STOCK 5090FE Steel Nomad FPS= 142 

XOC 5090FE Steel Nomad FPS= 173

[Meaker]

8 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Our worst power users are central A/C, and now the dehumidifier under the home. We had loads of condensation underneath the house in crawl space from the A/C. So we had to get a dehumidifier hooked up. Fortunately it keeps the home cooler as well. 
 

What’s funny is, this means technically I managed to overclock my RTX 5090, and I squeezed more than a whole RTX 5050 out of it. 
 

RTX 5050 Steel Nomad FPS=22-23
STOCK 5090FE Steel Nomad FPS= 142 

XOC 5090FE Steel Nomad FPS= 173

Yeah but that's like saying I tuned my 5L V8 engine and got more than a whole 1.0L 3 cylinder eco boost out of it.

 

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

@Meaker hit the nail on the head. The connector, not the PSU, is what needs to be carefully monitored. It is more likely to fail than the PSU.

 

Only fanboys pay more for ROG-branded PSUs and peripherals. The branding does nothing beneficial for anyone except for ASUS. They benefit by scalping their fanboys.

 

Edit: 5050 = 50/50 aka "half-a$$ed"

Having the per pin monitoring on it is nice, that's a real value add feature. Better would be current balancing etc but Nvidia would have a fit with anyone "playing" that much with it.

[Papusan]

 

Intel   will offer an huge upgradefor Arrow lake refresh. Finally you can get the Microsoft Copilot+ certification. Isn't that great? 

 

On top you get an Skylake similar performance boost for the processing power. Maybe 100 or even 200Mhz bump in clock speed. Exactly as in the good old days with Intel and Skylake ++++++.

 

Intel Arrow Lake Refresh CPUs will offer increased frequencies and a new AI NPU.

[Meaker]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Intel   will offer an huge upgradefor Arrow lake refresh. Finally you can get the Microsoft Copilot+ certification. Isn't that great? 

 

On top you get an Skylake similar performance boost for the processing power. Maybe 100 or even 200MH bump in performance bo0st. Exactly as in the good old days with Intel and Skylake ++++++.

 

Intel Arrow Lake Refresh CPUs will offer increased frequencies and a new AI NPU.

 

Does this version come with bonus rust though?

[Papusan]

9 minutes ago, Meaker said:

 

Does this version come with bonus rust though?

 

Do they need that when they will offer Microsoft Copilot+ certification for desktops?😅

 

Thus meeting the minimum requirement of 40 TOPS to have the PC Copilot + certification. This will be an advantage, at the marketing level, compared to AMD solutions. 

 

Maybe it's time for Fox to leave AMD now and start enjoy Copilot+? Yup, Fox is not a gamer, so maybe Copilot+ will become his new hobby.

[Meaker]

6 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Do they need that when they will offer Microsoft Copilot+ certification for desktops?😅

 

Thus meeting the minimum requirement of 40 TOPS to have the PC Copilot + certification. This will be an advantage, at the marketing level, compared to AMD solutions. 

 

Maybe it's time for Fox to leave AMD now and start enjoy Copilot+? 

Is it actually accelerated on the NPU yet?