Official Clevo X170KM-G Thread

[crossshot]

After some time in idle (and silent mode) it shutdown without any reason. No error in event viewer - only a uncontrolled shutdown is noticed.

And i also have a lot whea logger failures in the event viewer.

[ViktorV]

4 minutes ago, crossshot said:

After some time in idle (and silent mode) it shutdown without any reason. No error in event viewer - only a uncontrolled shutdown is noticed.

And i also have a lot whea logger failures in the event viewer.

After turning off the laptop starts from the power button?Or do you have to remove the battery?

[crossshot]

It's complete off. I can start it normal with the power button. 

[solidus1983]

For them that have sound crackling, go in to Sounds -> Playback -> Double Click Speakers -> Select Levels -> Turn PC Beep to 0% and Mute.

 

This will fix the issue for you.

[ViktorV]

13 minutes ago, solidus1983 said:

For them that have sound crackling, go in to Sounds -> Playback -> Double Click Speakers -> Select Levels -> Turn PC Beep to 0% and Mute.

 

This will fix the issue for you.

🤣👍Dramatically and simply!!!! Also check if you have Realtek Audio Console installed, open it and go to the Power Management tab and turn off Power Management, this also causes clicks in the speakers.

[ViktorV]

20 hours ago, crossshot said:

It's complete off. I can start it normal with the power button. 

It looks like a power management problem. Previously, I encountered a problem with some x170kmg owners associated with an unexpected shutdown under load, this led to a further inability to start the laptop from the power button, it helped to remove the battery and reinsert it, after which the laptop started normally from the power button, but only until the next unforeseen shutdown under load. And what is noteworthy, most often this problem manifested itself in the performance mode set in the Clevo Control Center, later, by experience, it was possible to find out the cause of these failures, there was a conflict in power management of the cooling fans, removing the Clevo Fan Control program from the Control Center solved this problem. Later, the corrected Control Center 3.75x appeared, which seems to have solved this problem. Perhaps you have something similar, but the opposite happens in low performance mode, somewhere the power management fails and the laptop turns off.Perhaps you have something similar, but the opposite happens in low performance mode, somewhere the power management fails and the laptop turns off.

[ViktorV]

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/otRpfuGMtOe9Tw CCC 3.75X Fixed Clevo Control Center from Dream Machines. Try with this Control Center. First, remove the Control Center, then restart the PC, and delete the remnants from the x86 folder, only then install a new one. This is true for those who have Windows 11 installed, those who have Windows 10 installed will only help by removing Clevo Fan Control from the Control Center

[crossshot]

@ViktorVThanks for your help. I think, its really a quiet mode issue. At the moment i use CCC 3.98 and power mode only in entertainment. Current uptime is ~100 hours.

I use the quiet mode very often with Win11 because of high idle cpu usage and blowing fans. It explains the high number of crashs with Win11.

At the moment i'm very happy. No crashs - also no more crashs in games. Very cool after a long horror story.

[solidus1983]

Right after some testing, I have found that using Power Saving mode or Performance mode on Clevo Control Center will stop the crackling audio as well.

 

This is on 3.75 (modded) as well as any other version.

[Spektre]

So, I need a new laptop to replace my aging  P775, but the X170 is just too much for me to carry with its 2 power supplies.  I am disabled and it will spend most of its time as my "desktop" in bed as I can't get up much anymore.

 

My main problem with laptops is sound.  They mostly sound like crap.  I'm not interested in adding a Bluetooth speaker or some such as that makes it cumbersome to move again.

 

Any suggestions for a good sounding Windows based 17" laptop?

[ViktorV]

1 hour ago, Spektre said:

So, I need a new laptop to replace my aging  P775, but the X170 is just too much for me to carry with its 2 power supplies.  I am disabled and it will spend most of its time as my "desktop" in bed as I can't get up much anymore.

 

My main problem with laptops is sound.  They mostly sound like crap.  I'm not interested in adding a Bluetooth speaker or some such as that makes it cumbersome to move again.

 

Any suggestions for a good sounding Windows based 17" laptop?

Are you interested in modular laptops with desktop processors or are you also considering BGA laptops?

[Spektre]

9 hours ago, ViktorV said:

Are you interested in modular laptops with desktop processors or are you also considering BGA laptops?

At this point, since the Clevo line seems to have dead-ended in that area, BGA is fine.

[ViktorV]

1 hour ago, Spektre said:

At this point, since the Clevo line seems to have dead-ended in that area, BGA is fine.

There is a good model from Clevo pd71pnt1-g with 12900h and rtx3070ti/3080ti, aka xmg pro 17. Or take a closer look at laptops from TongFang, sold under the XMG Neo 17 2021/2022/Mechrevo/Machenike brands and others.

[1610ftw]

15 hours ago, Spektre said:

At this point, since the Clevo line seems to have dead-ended in that area, BGA is fine.

 

If you want good speakers that may be difficult.

I am not aware of any particular windows laptops of the last generation that have good sound to be honest but I can tell you that the MSI GT77 is seriously lacking bass so I cannot recommend it for the sound (but many other things).

 

As Viktor has pointed out there are interesting TongFang and Clevo models but not sure about their sound quality.

 

As you seem to be looking for something in the longer run you may wait until next year - as you will be in bed with your laptop the upcoming 18" models may be nice because of the 15% bigger screen size and they will probably be weighing a bit less than the X170 and you will be able to combine them with a relatively lightweight power supply when on the go.

[Spektre]

8 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

 

If you want good speakers that may be difficult.

I am not aware of any particular windows laptops of the last generation that have good sound to be honest but I can tell you that the MSI GT77 is seriously lacking bass so I cannot recommend it for the sound (but many other things).

 

As Viktor has pointed out there are interesting TongFang and Clevo models but not sure about their sound quality.

 

As you seem to be looking for something in the longer run you may wait until next year - as you will be in bed with your laptop the upcoming 18" models may be nice because of the 15% bigger screen size and they will probably be weighing a bit less than the X170 and you will be able to combine them with a relatively lightweight power supply when on the go.

 

Sounds interesting.   What 18" models are coming out?  Top contender right now is the Asus Strix Scar 17.  It had good sound.

[1610ftw]

3 hours ago, Spektre said:

 

Sounds interesting.   What 18" models are coming out?  

 

At the moment there is only a hint to a Razer 18:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Next-gen-Razer-Blade-18-specs-leak-out-along-with-impressive-Geekbench-scores-for-Intel-s-i9-13900HX-mobile-CPU.667619.0.html

 

Pretty sure there will be others and first models may be released in February.

As next generation CPUs will be a lot more efficient for both AMD and Intel you will probably be able to get the same performance as this year with significantly less fan noise.

 

 

3 hours ago, Spektre said:

 Top contender right now is the Asus Strix Scar 17.  It had good sound.

Apparently it does not get very loud and has a lot less output than the X170 but subjectively sounds pretty good at its reduced volume. Please note that it does not have a webcam in case that is important for you.

 

 

[ViktorV]

13 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

 

As Viktor has pointed out there are interesting TongFang and Clevo models but not sure about their sound quality.

On the Clevo pd71pnt1-g laptop, the sound is excellent with Atlas and Sound Blaster X 360 support. On the TongFang 2021 laptops, the sound is THX technology, and on the 2022 models, the sound is with Nahimic 4.0 support. So with the sound on these laptops, everything is just fine.

[ViktorV]

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

At the moment there is only a hint to a Razer 18:

It is better to take any other brand, but only laptops not from this company. The most terrible laptops in terms of quality and cooling are made by this brand.

[1610ftw]

1 hour ago, ViktorV said:

It is better to take any other brand, but only laptops not from this company. The most terrible laptops in terms of quality and cooling are made by this brand.

 

I have no experience with them but they are thin and light and overpriced so an automatic pass for me.

 

[crossshot]

New CCC 3.99 available

 

https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-id-xul17e21/

[rcghalohell]

what are ways to help keep this machine cool? my 11700k hit 100 degrees and shut down the computer til it cooled down and with max speed fan at the desktop its only down to 60 degrees. 3080 gpu is 48

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, rcghalohell said:

what are ways to help keep this machine cool? my 11700k hit 100 degrees and shut down the computer til it cooled down and with max speed fan at the desktop its only down to 60 degrees. 3080 gpu is 48

 

1. Double check your thermal application and pairing

2. Hand pick a good silicon quality chip that runs naturally lower/cooler

3. Undervolt.

 

 

[rcghalohell]

something may be wrong with the fan too when in automatic, it overheats when on the desktop at idle like it isnt kicking on at high heat and i have it in entertainment mode this time instead of performance. laptop isnt even a year old yet, parts shouldnt be bad

[solidus1983]

Check them pads, one might have doubled over. Clean the fans out as well as the fin array. Apply new thermal paste. I am running an i7 11700k and although I do see 95c on autofan it's when I am fully loading the system. Also try to drop the 251w TDP to something like 190w that will also drop the temps a tad too.

[rcghalohell]

On 12/1/2022 at 8:00 PM, solidus1983 said:

Check them pads, one might have doubled over. Clean the fans out as well as the fin array. Apply new thermal paste. I am running an i7 11700k and although I do see 95c on autofan it's when I am fully loading the system. Also try to drop the 251w TDP to something like 190w that will also drop the temps a tad too.

how do i undervolt on this?