AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity

[Etern4l]

On 3/11/2024 at 9:01 AM, serpro69 said:

 

Well, nvidia for one is definitely being valued like there's no tomorrow. Won't be surprised to see it take on M$ by year's end.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-cusp-overtaking-apple-second-most-valuable-company-2024-03-08/

 

There is certainly a FOMO aspect to that. BTW If there is no tomorrow than the value of NVidia stock should be close to $0. I don't think any adverse scenarios are factored into the pricing.

 

On 3/14/2024 at 10:42 AM, Eban said:

I just came across this youtube, how to run your own private chatgpt like LLM on a home pc. Feed it all your own data.

I havent even finished watching the video yet but had to share this..........still collating

 

 

This is not particularly new, but does dismantle the "AI safety guarantee" supposedly provided by containment of advanced AI models in big datacentres which can be powered off or nuked. 

 

BTW While we have seen Geoffrey's Hinton's talks here before, they are so good I would like to share another: a short lecture where he develops and delivers the fairly natural premises behind his AI safety concerns:

 

 

Worth watching the whole thing, it's not overly technical, but fastforwarded to the punch line for those time-constrained. 

[serpro69]

9 hours ago, Etern4l said:

There is certainly a FOMO aspect to that. BTW If there is no tomorrow than the value of NVidia stock should be close to $0. I don't think any adverse scenarios are factored into the pricing.

Yeah, the FOMO part is more or less what I meant ;)

"To do something like there's no tomorrow" is a phrase AFAIK , didn't mean it literally :)
(UPD: yep, it is a phrase - https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/like+there's+no+tomorrow . Glad I didn't make that one up in my head  )

[Eban]

14 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 

This is not particularly new, but does dismantle the "AI safety guarantee" supposedly provided by containment of advanced AI models in big datacentres which can be powered off or nuked. 

 

 

 

It's not new? oh...that I didn't know 

[ryan]

I think after using hal in the 90s and seeing its progression this new generative ai is impressive, as for dangerous. Anything can be dangerous in the wrong hands, the real question is, is the polarity of AI leaning towards help or hurt, I think NSFW Ai can be modified for evil intents but major companies like microsoft and nvidia have given it a positive spin. The real censoring should be treating NSFW like a suitcase A bomb

 

no one here but if someone in the future visits this forum, perhaps aliens visiting earth chat gpt 4 passed the turing test

 

Can AI Be More Human than Us? - GPT-4 Passes Turing Test (msn.com)

[Etern4l]

On 3/18/2024 at 12:18 AM, serpro69 said:

Yeah, the FOMO part is more or less what I meant ;)

"To do something like there's no tomorrow" is a phrase AFAIK , didn't mean it literally :)

 

Of course, although the phrase also makes a lot of literal sense when applied in reference to hedonistic behaviour. I don't know too many people that would say that the last thing they want to do before the world ends is buy some NVidia stock lol

 

On 3/18/2024 at 5:22 AM, Eban said:

 

It's not new? oh...that I didn't know 

 

Well, this is going more mainstream now.

 

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BTW I'm not sure any current LLM chatbot could pass an informed Turing test by an interviewer who is aware of LLM's shortcomings.

 

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Meanwhile, uninformed government bureaucrats buckle under the FOMO pressure and embed the technology into the infrastructure:

 

NYC's Government Chatbot Is Lying About City Laws and Regulations

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More good news from our "friends" at M$ and ClosedAI:

 

Microsoft, OpenAI Plan $100 Billlion 'Stargate' AI Supercomputer

I mean this is getting completely out of hand now. Remember any time you use the current data-harvesting M$ software and services, or otherwise give them any money: you are funding that.

 

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Compared to the above, this next piece of minor significance and par for the course (in part because the technology is out there already):

 

OpenAI Reveals AI Tool To Recreate Human Voices

So, Closed are "responsibly" releasing a tool which can clone human voice. What could go wrong? This stuff should be criminalised ASAP. Why isn't it, America?

 

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I saved this real gem for last:

Larry Summers, Now an OpenAI Board Member, Thinks AI Could Replace 'Almost All' Forms of Labor

 

So, Closed are getting bolder fast: previously they would publish those reports cautiously claiming about 20% or so of the jobs would be affected, but now they hired Larry Summers (a famous and outspoken economist) to sit pretty on the board and essentially profess the end of capitalism and human civilisation - clearly an excellent business opportunity in the era of AI-pumped disaster capitalism. 

 

Stay strong and keep thinking about the future guys, while we still can do something about it.

 

Actually another batch - I don't do these very often so hopefully this will be excused. Here is an update from a company which is building a humanoid robot in partnership with Closed, reportedly using some version of GPT under the hood, probably 5:

 

 

The voice is pretty uncanny, especially the human-like pauses. The robot is a bit slow, but clearly it's just a prototype. It also doesn't need breaks, doesn't waste time talking to co-workers, won't join a union etc.

 

Meanwhile, Sam A. is hoping to put some more creatives and film industry professionals out of work ASAP:

 

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/03/openai-shows-off-sora-ai-video-generator-to-hollywood-execs/

 

That's a follow up to the earlier story of some film industry projects already being cancelled:

 

Tyler Perry halts $800m studio expansion after being shocked by AI

 

[Etern4l]

Bad Apple news today:

 

Apple wouldn’t let Jon Stewart interview FTC Chair Lina Khan, TV host claims

 

What does this have to do with AI? Well, turns out Jon Stewart decided to join the chorus of high profile humans speaking out about the risks and consequences of AI... and Apple didn't like that, since they are reportedly planning to jump on the LLM bandwagon. 

 

 

In other news:

 

UK and US Sign Landmark Agreement On AI Safety 

Have not had a chance to scrutinise, but expecting max big tech sponsored BS along the lines of the below quotation:

 

UK tech minister Michelle Donelan said it is "the defining technology challenge of our generation." "We have always been clear that ensuring the safe development of AI is a shared global issue," she said. "Only by working together can we address the technology's risks head on and harness its enormous potential to help us all live easier and healthier lives."

 

Lastly, the artists are fighting on:

 

Billie Eilish, Pearl Jam, 200 artists say AI poses existential threat to their livelihoods

 

 

 

[serpro69]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/17/24159095/openai-jan-leike-superalignment-sam-altman-ai-safety

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/20/world-is-ill-prepared-for-breakthroughs-in-ai-say-experts

 

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“Companies are shifting their focus to developing generalist AI systems that can autonomously act and pursue goals. Increases in capabilities and autonomy may soon massively amplify AI’s impact, with risks that include large-scale social harms, malicious uses, and an irreversible loss of human control over autonomous AI systems,” the experts said, adding that unchecked AI advancement could lead to the “marginalisation or extinction of humanity”.

 

[serpro69]

More people leaving OpenAI due to safety concerns - https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/22/24162869/another-openai-departure-signals-safety-concerns

[serpro69]

Big tech has distracted world from existential risk of AI, says top scientist

[6730b]

https://www.androidauthority.com/shut-down-google-ai-overview-3446038/

[serpro69]

Found this project on github that tracks some misuses of AI - https://github.com/daviddao/awful-ai 

Some sh*t there looks pretty darn awful, like Israel's usage of AI for selecting bombing targets in Gaza...  WTF

[Mr. Fox]

 

[Mr. Fox]

 

[Mr. Fox]

So, now the DNC is using AI (among other equally deceptive tactics) to make things appear differently than they actually are. The Deep State is frightening enough without the AI-driven fabrication. This is something every American voter needs to be aware of regardless of what side they are on. If you don't like this guy, set aside the bias for a bit and pay attention to the information. AI definitely has the potential to destroy us all. Newer is always better, right @Papusan and @Raiderman?

 

They're even paying thousands of dollars to young people to post propaganda on YouTube, TikTok and Twitch. Listen to some of these young influencers talking about being bought by DNC PACs. Most of them are very upset by the effort to "buy them" (who wouldn't be).

[raptorddd]

On 8/10/2024 at 9:56 AM, Mr. Fox said:

So, now the DNC is using AI (among other equally deceptive tactics) to make things appear differently than they actually are. The Deep State is frightening enough without the AI-driven fabrication. This is something every American voter needs to be aware of regardless of what side they are on. If you don't like this guy, set aside the bias for a bit and pay attention to the information. AI definitely has the potential to destroy us all. Newer is always better, right @Papusan and @Raiderman?

 

They're even paying thousands of dollars to young people to post propaganda on YouTube, TikTok and Twitch. Listen to some of these young influencers talking about being bought by DNC PACs. Most of them are very upset by the effort to "buy them" (who wouldn't be).

the same thing happens in mexico. some media and influencers only talk bad about one party adn praise the other.

samething lies lies  and hypocrisy is  their ways. 

thankl god we have social media and people like this guys on this 2 videos that shows all the lies and dirty tricks they are trying to win. i dont think kamala will win tough.

[Etern4l]

On 5/23/2024 at 5:04 PM, serpro69 said:

More people leaving OpenAI due to safety concerns - https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/22/24162869/another-openai-departure-signals-safety-concerns

 

Yes, co-founder John Schulman left recently to focus on "alignment". People sitting on a gold mine departing to try and find a way out of the mess (which clearly seems impossible at Open/MicrosoftAI, gives us a strong indication of how grave the danger really is.

 

On 6/13/2024 at 4:43 PM, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

An excellent video. People might be duped into thinking that Neural Processors are there to run a "personal AI" for them, whereas they are really there to shift some off the processing onto unsuspecting customers' machines, to reduce the load on the servers and vastly increase the amount of data that can be collected. Is Win 11 basically unusable now, or is it possible to effectively disable all the cancerware?

 

The second video is spot on as well, thanks.

 

On 8/10/2024 at 5:56 PM, Mr. Fox said:

So, now the DNC is using AI (among other equally deceptive tactics) to make things appear differently than they actually are. 

They're even paying thousands of dollars to young people to post propaganda on YouTube, TikTok and Twitch. Listen to some of these young influencers talking about being bought by DNC PACs. Most of them are very upset by the effort to "buy them" (who wouldn't be)

 

Well, the reality is these new technologies are being used by whoever can lay their hands on them. Remember that DTs original presidential election was boosted by the marketing / influencing technology developed by Thiel's company and its UK subsidiary Cambridge Analytica. Very robust regulation is required here, but fair to assume this is hardly forthcoming. 

 

Meanwhile, some good news:

Linux Market Share Hits Record High 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

35 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

Meanwhile, some good news:

Linux Market Share Hits Record High 

That is wonderful news, and it only makes sense. I mean, anything put out by crApple is just a dumbed down de-evolved proprietary and defective version of Linux for Dummies and an unacceptable alternative to Windows, and anything put out by Micro$lop is just a screwed up mess loaded with bloat and data collection filth. And, like crApple's trash, a product dumbed down for dumb-dumbs.

[Etern4l]

27 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That is wonderful news, and it only makes sense. I mean, anything put out by crApple is just a dumbed down de-evolved proprietary and defective version of Linux for Dummies and an unacceptable alternative to Windows, and anything put out by Micro$lop is just a screwed up mess loaded with bloat and data collection filth. And, like crApple's trash, a product dumbed down for dumb-dumbs.

 

Yes, Apple disappointed me greatly by teaming up with OpenAI on its "Apple Intelligence"...

[serpro69]

Quite an interesting read: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/24/yuval-noah-harari-ai-book-extract-nexus 
 

  

On 8/24/2024 at 8:05 PM, Etern4l said:

Yes, Apple disappointed me greatly by teaming up with OpenAI on its "Apple Intelligence"...

 

I was waiting for Asahi Linux to mature a bit more before I would seriously consider getting a Macbook for work, but after this... I'm pretty sure I'll pass just out of principle, if nothing else. Anyone willing to partner with OpenAI... thanks, but no thanks.