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On 2/8/2022 at 12:11 PM, solidus1983 said:

I myself am a Pre-Spreader type of guy but some times use the line method on Rectangle Dies and Blob + X on Squared Dies.

Since all these Great suggestions I have also done I need to add 1 more, Don't be afraid to pull it apart after you did the spread and see how it covered the die and if it looks good do it again exactly the same way, I discovered this from my own mistakes

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1 hour ago, aldarxt said:

Since all these Great suggestions I have also done I need to add 1 more, Don't be afraid to pull it apart after you did the spread and see how it covered the die and if it looks good do it again exactly the same way, I discovered this from my own mistakes

 

There is a reason why i need a tanker full of Thermal paste, for this very thing. Its what i do all the time no matter which method i use the first paste job is a test application the second one is the real deal.

 

But totally agree with you on this one.

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On 2/9/2022 at 1:37 AM, runix18 said:

 

Hi runix18,

Just an FYI:   www.tinyurl.com is your friend! 

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Whenever you end up with a huge link like that, just copy and paste it to tinyurl.com, then click on the green "Make Tinyurl!" button underneath, and tinyurl will do the rest (then copy and paste the shortened URL to wherever you please).

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I've had the best luck with Noctua NT-H2 thermal paste.  It does almost as well as Grizzly Kryonaut. In the case of large, square CPU heat spreaders, just a clean 3mm blob right smack in the middle will do, then lock the heatsink down on top if it.  If it's a thin, rectangular die (such as laptop CPUs), a thin line right down the middle of the long side of the die rectangle suffices. I don't agonize over it. Also, I religiously avoid any liquid metal pastes or fancy "diamond" pastes.

Just my $.02

- Trev

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EC360 Diamond i use it with an GT76 Titan DT 9SG

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As some probably know I did a new big test early January for most of my thermal pastes on my Dell 7506. You can see my collection (60+ thermal pastes) in the photo from below. This is a copy and paste from my test which I originally posted on notebookreview forum.

 


This is the average degrees of 4 cores+ambient temperature correction (between 0.0-1.0 degrees).

 

  1.     Thermalright TFX-----------------------------83.65 (83/83/83/84 ambient 24.6)
  2.     Coolermaster CryoFuze-------------------83.85 (83/83/84/83 ambient 24.4)
  3.     FuzeIce Plus----------------------------------84.10 (83/83/84/84 ambient 24.4)
  4.     Deepcool G40-------------------------------84.30 (83/83/84/84 ambient 24.2)
  5.     SYY-157---------------------------------------84.45 (83/84/84/84 ambient 24.3)
  6.     Akasa T5 ProGrade Plus------------------84.65 (85/83/84/83 ambient 24.1)
  7.     Alpenföhn Permafrost 2--------------------84.90 (85/84/85/84 ambient 24.6)
  8.     Coolermaster MasterGel Maker------------85.00 (85/84/85/84 ambient 24.5)
  9.     Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut------------------85.25 (85/84/85/85 ambient 24.5)
  10.     Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme--------85.45 (85/84/86/84 ambient 24.3)
  11.     Deepcool Z10---------------------------------85.50 (85/84/84/85 ambient 24.0)
  12.     Deepcool EX750-----------------------------85.55 (85/84/85/85 ambient 24.2)
  13.     Noctua NT-H2--------------------------------85.65 (86/84/86/85 ambient 24.6)
  14.     Phanteks PH-NDC--------------------------85.65 (85/84/86/86 ambient 24.6)
  15.     Thermalright TF7---------------------------85.95 (85/86/85/85 ambient 24.3)
  16.     Thermalright TF8---------------------------86.15 (86/86/86/85 ambient 24.6)
  17.     IC Diamond 24-----------------------------86.35 (86/86/86/85 ambient 24.4)
  18.     Cryorig CP5---------------------------------86.60 (86/86/86/86 ambient 24.4)
  19.     Maxtor CTG8--------------------------------86.85 (87/86/87/85 ambient 24.4)
  20.     G-MOTIONS GM-850----------------------86.95 (86/86/86/87 ambient 24.3)
  21.     Genesis Silicon 851-----------------------87.50 (87/87/87/87 ambient 24.5)
  22.     Prolimatech PK-3 Nano------------------87.65 (88/87/87/87 ambient 24.6)
  23.     KRYO 33--------------------------------------87.70 (87/87/87/87 ambient 24.3)
  24.     Be Quiet DC1-------------------------------88.10 (87/87/88/88 ambient 24.4)
  25.     Zalman-STC8------------------------------88.10 (88/87/88/87 ambient 24.4)
  26.     IONZ IZP14---------------------------------88.15 (87/87/88/87 ambient 24.1)
  27.     Akasa 5026---------------------------------88.30 (88/88/88/88 ambient 24.7)
  28.     Gelid GC-Extreme blue-----------------88.35 (88/88/89/88 ambient 24.9)
  29.     MARS Gaming MT1----------------------88.40 (88/88/88/88 ambient 24.6)
  30.     Akasa 5022--------------------------------88.50 (89/88/88/87 ambient 24.5)
  31.     Shin-Etsu G751--------------------------89.20 (89/88/89/88 ambient 24.3)
  32.     Arctic MX-4---------------------------------89.25 (89/88/90/90 ambient 25.0)
  33.     Gelid GC-PRO---------------------------89.35 (89/88/90/88 ambient 24.4)
  34.     JunPus JP-DX1-------------------------90.00 (89/89/89/91 ambient 24.5)
  35.     Phobya NanoGrease Extreme-------90.25 (90/89/90/90 ambient 24.5)
  36.     Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut-----------91.10 (92/89/92/91 ambient 24.9)
  37.     Arctic MX-5---------------------------------91.20 (92/90/91/91 ambient 24.8)
  38.     Gelid GC-Extreme yellow---------------91.35 (92/90/92/91 ambient 24.9)
  39.     EVGA Frostbite 2--------------------------91.45 (92/89/92/90 ambient 24.3)
  40.     OSGEAR TC128-2-------------------------91.85 (92/90/91/92 ambient 24.4)
  41.     Halnziye HY-A9------------------------------91.95 (93/90/91/91 ambient 24.3)
  42.     Akasa Essential T5-----------------------92.25 (92/92/91/92 ambient 24.5)
  43.     Antec Formula X--------------------------92.80 (93/92/92/91 ambient 24.2)
  44.     Shin-Etsu X23-7783D--------------------93.15 (94/92/92/91 ambient 24.1)
  45.     Foshan GD900----------------------------93.75 (94/94/92/93 ambient 24.3)
  46.     Zalman-STC9-----------------------------94.40 (94/94/94/94 ambient 24.6)
  47.     Halnziye HY883----------------------------97.25 (99/95/99/96 ambient 25.0)
  48.     Halnziye HY810------------------------------99.75 (100/98/100/99 ambient 24.5)

 

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I'm using Cryofuze for now and will see how it performs in the longer run. We know that TFX has superb temps initially but we also do know that there are quite a few reports about degrading performance in laptops.

 

I hope Cryofuze does better in the longer run. Another paste I liked was the Alpenföhn Permafrost 2, it is really nice to spread. It's not thick but still great performance, the first 6 are a lot thicker. Could be also a good choice for desktop CPUs.

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The manufacturer of SYY-157 Nuomi Chemical (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd. released two new pastes:

 

- BSFF BS-139

- JLJ TP-133

 

BSFF paste is available on amazon.co.uk. The thermal conductivity rating is lower but this isn't necessarily a meaningful metric. Viscosity on all three are 200.000cps.

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2 hours ago, seanwee said:

10 months tfx no issues so far

Where can I buy Thermalright TFX in Europe EU?

Seem to be impossible to get my hands on it, buying it from US is not an option...that add up to $100 easily with import charges and VAT

Only one I found is this vendor but I probably gonna be charged import charges
https://www.kingfishercomputers.co.uk/shop/one-enjoy-thermalright-tfx-thermal-compound-paste-14-3-w-mk-carbon-based-high-performance-heatsink-paste-cpu-for-all-coolers-interface-material-2-g-with-tool/

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3 hours ago, Rofa1234 said:

You can buy it from Amazon (One enjoy store), it's available there.

thanks....oh pressing the buy now button in my link sent me to amazon.
I figured it would be free shipping as stated on their website if assumed it would be purchased through their own website.

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On 2/9/2022 at 6:37 AM, runix18 said:

 

On 2/12/2022 at 1:57 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I think you're the winner of the longest URL award this month. 

 

On 2/25/2022 at 9:44 AM, Trevayne10 said:

 

Hi runix18,

Just an FYI:   www.tinyurl.com is your friend! 

That ginormous link you posted above reduces to https://tinyurl.com/yabb6arr

Whenever you end up with a huge link like that, just copy and paste it to tinyurl.com, then click on the green "Make Tinyurl!" button underneath, and tinyurl will do the rest (then copy and paste the shortened URL to wherever you please).

- Trev

 

On 2/27/2022 at 11:42 PM, Papusan said:

Why not just use the hyperlink feature in the forum software? Call it whatever you want, click on the feature and insert it in your post. All while you writing the reply. 

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Oh my.. people please! You do realise that you can simply delete all that tracking and metadata crap after the "?" from URLs right??

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/283772575617 😉

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1 hour ago, Ishatix said:

 

 

 

 

Oh my.. people please! You do realise that you can simply delete all that tracking and metadata crap after the "?" from URLs right??

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/283772575617 😉

 

Actually...I didnt realise that :classic_blink:

 

But thank you!....I do now :classic_biggrin:

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The thing is that before I posted the link the seller had more than 10 in stock, now ... out of stock. I am glad that my idea helped some people.😁

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Just wondering. Has anybody actually purchased PTM thermal compound from China?

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20220315022826&origin=y&SearchText=PTM7950SP

 

I wanted to give it a try but.... (Dont be shocked here).... I have heard a nasty rumour that SOME Chinese vendors sell counterfeit products!:classic_ohmy:

I know right. So i wanted to try this but dont want to buy a repackaged IC diamond or something.

Anyone?

 

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On 3/2/2022 at 11:44 AM, Rofa1234 said:

Il produttore di SYY-157 Nuomi Chemical (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd. ha rilasciato due nuove paste:

 

- BSFF BS-139

- JLJ TP-133

 

La pasta BSFF è disponibile su amazon.co.uk. La valutazione della conducibilità termica è inferiore ma questa non è necessariamente una metrica significativa. La viscosità su tutti e tre è di 200.000 cps.

 

 

From the reviews these two thermal compounds seem excellent to me, I have to get my hands on them immediately to compare them with other compounds.

 

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I may be wrong, but my understanding is that IC Diamond doesn't degrade over time as badly as other thermal pastes. If you have a laptop that it's difficult to tear down and replace the thermal paste, I usually recommend IC Diamond. Put it once and forget. The next best thing is liquid metal, but I don't recommend that to the uninitiated.

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yeah im an ol OG nbr member... and as I understand it back in the day IC diamond was the best and still is..however trolls are saying it scratches the die and the performance is mediocre? weirdos.....the diamonds are nano particles and don't scratch the die

 

I used it on an old asus gaming laptop with overvolting I was seeing gpu temps exceed 100c with ic diamond they peaked around 80c...

 

argue this?

 

I applied it many times on many laptops and it never scratched my die? it kinda angers me with all the false info out there

 

on a tangent, the new switch state pads seem like they are tops. they are solid below 50c and liquid after

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3 hours ago, ryan said:

yeah im an ol OG nbr member... and as I understand it back in the day IC diamond was the best and still is..however trolls are saying it scratches the die and the performance is mediocre? weirdos.....the diamonds are nano particles and don't scratch the die

 

I used it on an old asus gaming laptop with overvolting I was seeing gpu temps exceed 100c with ic diamond they peaked around 80c...

 

argue this?

 

I applied it many times on many laptops and it never scratched my die? it kinda angers me with all the false info out there

 

on a tangent, the new switch state pads seem like they are tops. they are solid below 50c and liquid after

Yeah I was just having a dig :classic_biggrin:

Ive used IC diamond before and have no problem with it. Currently using LM on my laptops.

Havent seen these new pads, but I have recently bought an IC Graphite Thermal Pad. Wasnt great for me. Currently using it in my Rugged 7202 tablet, but I will switch it out at some point....possibly for IC diamond paste if I cant get PTM goop.

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On 3/17/2022 at 10:41 PM, Eban said:

Yeah I was just having a dig :classic_biggrin:

Ive used IC diamond before and have no problem with it. Currently using LM on my laptops.

Havent seen these new pads, but I have recently bought an IC Graphite Thermal Pad. Wasnt great for me. Currently using it in my Rugged 7202 tablet, but I will switch it out at some point....possibly for IC diamond paste if I cant get PTM goop.

Got a bit interested but why does their sefety data sheet list a 3M TCG-2035 thermal conductive grease?
Oh. So it is a repacked 3M product
SUPERIOR THERMAL PERFORMANCE- Engineered and made by 3M corporation to meet OEM specifications for the best combination of maximum performance and durability and is repackaged by Innovation Cooling. C of C available on request.

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00xM8t9lxtGOv70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS--
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005035139/

All I know is that anything 3M good, can't fail 3M on anything I buy from them

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On 3/17/2022 at 11:49 PM, Blacky said:

I may be wrong, but my understanding is that IC Diamond doesn't degrade over time as badly as other thermal pastes. If you have a laptop that it's difficult to tear down and replace the thermal paste, I usually recommend IC Diamond. Put it once and forget. The next best thing is liquid metal, but I don't recommend that to the uninitiated.

 

On 3/18/2022 at 2:10 AM, ryan said:

yeah im an ol OG nbr member... and as I understand it back in the day IC diamond was the best and still is..however trolls are saying it scratches the die and the performance is mediocre? weirdos.....the diamonds are nano particles and don't scratch the die

 

I used it on an old asus gaming laptop with overvolting I was seeing gpu temps exceed 100c with ic diamond they peaked around 80c...

 

argue this?

 

I applied it many times on many laptops and it never scratched my die? it kinda angers me with all the false info out there

 

on a tangent, the new switch state pads seem like they are tops. they are solid below 50c and liquid after

I don't know anything about scratching the die but thermals wise IC diamond does lose out to newer pastes like TFX by quite a large margin in my testing. 5C worse to be specific.

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