Precision M4600 Owners Thread

[Reciever]

23 minutes ago, raptorddd said:

did you also overclocked RAM.? 

for vbios you need programmer ch34a1 or how do you do that.?

system RAM? never had any luck with running anything other than 1600Mhz even with 1866 or 2133Mhz kits. DDR3 overclocking was fairly uncommon in laptops during this era.

 

The BIOS for the m4600/m6600 wasnt very good according to @valuxin when he was looking through years ago.

[raptorddd]

should i disable this on BIOS.?

using windows 10 22H2.

[raptorddd]

On 10/18/2022 at 10:51 AM, Reciever said:

system RAM? never had any luck with running anything other than 1600Mhz even with 1866 or 2133Mhz kits. DDR3 overclocking was fairly uncommon in laptops during this era.

 

The BIOS for the m4600/m6600 wasnt very good according to @valuxin when he was looking through years ago.

yes system ram.  dont knoe who it was on gpu update thread.

m4600 max is 1600mhz. but was wondering if timings could be modded. as my old 8GB 1333mhz was faster.

[Reciever]

13 minutes ago, raptorddd said:

yes system ram.  dont knoe who it was on gpu update thread.

m4600 max is 1600mhz. but was wondering if timings could be modded. as my old 8GB 1333mhz was faster.

You would have to modify the spd of the ram itself for the system to read from, but I never attempted it myself. 

[Aaron44126]

19 minutes ago, raptorddd said:

should i disable this on BIOS.?

using windows 10 22H2.

 

Optimus leverages the Intel GPU when the NVIDIA GPU is not needed, to save you power.  If you don't care about battery life, you can disable it.

 

(Do not worry about the Windows 7 only text.  That's there because Windows 7 was the newest OS when this system launched, and Optimus doesn't work with Windows XP, which was also supported on this system.  It works with later OS's.)

[Reciever]

Just bear in mind that Enduro, AMD's equivalent is not supported. 

 

So if you end up going the M5100 route at some point, you will want to have that disabled as part of the installation process.

[Silentninja727]

On 10/19/2022 at 3:17 PM, raptorddd said:

yes system ram.  dont knoe who it was on gpu update thread.

m4600 max is 1600mhz. but was wondering if timings could be modded. as my old 8GB 1333mhz was faster.

 

What manufacturer ram sticks do you use for your laptop? 

 

 

 

[raptorddd]

On 10/21/2022 at 7:24 PM, Silentninja727 said:

 

What manufacturer ram sticks do you use for your laptop? 

 

 

 

i had 8gb kingston 1333mhz. 

but now 32gb 1600 mixed 2 samsung 1 hynyz the other i cant remember

bought 32gb from admin receiver. he has a thread in the want to sell section.

[Silentninja727]

To make 1600mhz ram speed with 4 ram sticks. 

2 Samsung Ram Sticks for Memory Module A and Memory Module C

2 Hyinx Ram Sticks for Memory Module B and Memory Module D 

 

[Silentninja727]

[raptorddd]

1 hour ago, Silentninja727 said:

To make 1600mhz ram speed with 4 ram sticks. 

2 Samsung Ram Sticks for Memory Module A and Memory Module C

2 Hyinx Ram Sticks for Memory Module B and Memory Module D 

 

i have  0 knowledge i just stick them there, so you are suggesting to place 

 

2 Samsung Ram Sticks for Memory Module A and Memory Module C

2 Hyinx Ram Sticks for Memory Module B and Memory Module D 

ill open my laptop on saturday and ill take some pictures of my ram. and some ugly holes i did for ventilation.

[Silentninja727]

2 hours ago, raptorddd said:

i have  0 knowledge i just stick them there, so you are suggesting to place 

 

2 Samsung Ram Sticks for Memory Module A and Memory Module C

2 Hyinx Ram Sticks for Memory Module B and Memory Module D 

ill open my laptop on saturday and ill take some pictures of my ram. and some ugly holes i did for ventilation.

Yes

[raptorddd]

@Silentninja727

call me paranoid..... but trying to keep it as cool as possible. LOL

yes i get bored have nothing to do.

 

 

 

 

[raptorddd]

ram installed

 

2X

 

1X

1X

 

[raptorddd]

this is the old ram i had.. 8gb 4x2 GB

i dont know but it seemed faster than the 32GB i have now. 

 

only difference is PC3 and 32GB is PC3L

@Reciever

 

like start up of laptop it didnt show loading circle dots. shut down also faster.

but with 32GB i find games run smoother.

 

do you think covering aperture of fan. this will this push more air put cooling it better .? 

what is the purpose ot that aperture. suck cool air.? but i think it pushes hot air and then fan sucks same air in.?

 

 

 

 

[Aaron44126]

The fans pull air from the bottom and push it out the back. You can improve it somewhat by enlarging the holes in the bottom vent.

https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-m4800-cpu-upgrade-tdp-concerns.826646/page-5.html

[Reciever]

6 minutes ago, raptorddd said:

this is the old ram i had.. 8gb 4x2 GB

i dont know but it seemed faster than the 32GB i have now. 

 

only difference is PC3 and 32GB is PC3L

@Reciever

 

like start up of laptop it didnt show loading circle dots. shut down also faster.

but with 32GB i find games run smoother.

 

do you think covering aperture of fan. this will this push more air put cooling it better .? 

what is the purpose ot that aperture. suck cool air.? but i think it pushes hot air and then fan sucks same air in.?

 

 

 

 

That RAM is just probably older, as its 10600 which means 1333.

 

You now have faster ram and 4x as much quantity

[raptorddd]

19 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

The fans pull air from the bottom and push it out the back. You can improve it somewhat by enlarging the holes in the bottom vent.

https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-m4800-cpu-upgrade-tdp-concerns.826646/page-5.html

 

this is exactly what i did. i only had a drill. was kind of heavy. it took hours. BUT

since it was heavy i end it up hitting the vent. final work.. not good it would not sit flat on a table so i just remove the grill amd did a square cut out.

 

the last pic on the fan.. the aperture that it has at the end of the fan casing.

i guess its to pull cool air. but seems like it pushes hot air. if i cover it. would more air go thru the heatsink fins.?

[raptorddd]

19 hours ago, Reciever said:

That RAM is just probably older, as its 10600 which means 1333.

 

You now have faster ram and 4x as much quantity

i find the old kingstone  4x2GB 1333mhzi faster at boot and shut down.

when cold boot showed windows logo for few seconds no loading circle. and at shut down took 3 seconds.

 

1600mhz 32gb. takes longer to boot shows loading circle at windows start up. shut down takes more time like 6 seconds.

but in games they run smooother. 

only difference i see is pc3  1.5v old kingstone and 32GB is pc3L wich voltage is 1.35v

ihave 0 knowledge could be that the higher voltage makes it faster.

[Reciever]

1 minute ago, raptorddd said:

i find the old kingstone  4x2GB 1333mhzi faster at boot and shut down.

when cold boot showed windows logo for few seconds no loading circle. and at shut down took 3 seconds.

 

1600mhz 32gb. takes longer to boot shows loading circle at windows start up. shut down takes more time like 6 seconds.

but in games they run smooother. 

only difference i see is pc3  1.5v old kingstone and 32GB is pc3L wich voltage is 1.35v

ihave 0 knowledge could be that the higher voltage makes it faster.

That was just the older standard, DDRL3 moved to 1.35v I believe with Haswell but prier generations were also compatible.

 

Could also try forcing no page file and see how your RAM behaves differently in Windows and gaming

[raptorddd]

On 10/31/2022 at 12:16 PM, Reciever said:

That was just the older standard, DDRL3 moved to 1.35v I believe with Haswell but prier generations were also compatible.

 

Could also try forcing no page file and see how your RAM behaves differently in Windows and gaming

you mean this.???

 

but disable also stops  system restore.?

[Reciever]

6 hours ago, raptorddd said:

you mean this.???

 

but disable also stops  system restore.?

I am unsure if the two are linked, would be surprised if they are.

[Silentninja727]

On 10/30/2022 at 6:36 PM, raptorddd said:

@Silentninja727

call me paranoid..... but trying to keep it as cool as possible. LOL

yes i get bored have nothing to do.

 

 

 

 

It looks interesting, definitely it will help decrease the heat from the bottom. 

[raptorddd]

1 hour ago, Silentninja727 said:

It looks interesting, definitely it will help decrease the heat from the bottom. 

my idea was to make bigger holes. but drill was too heavy and time consuming. so at times i would hit with drill the grill and as it got weaker it got bent. it would not sit flat anymore so i cut out .

[Reciever]

The one modification that I wanted to try was removing 2x SODMM slots under the keyboard, this would permit for a MXM 3.0b card in a 15.6" frame. 

 

At the time I simply ripped them out, traces and all which naturally didnt work. would've been better if I attempted to desolder, not sure what possessed me to go that route lol.