What web browser are you using, and why?

[serpro69]

2 hours ago, cucubits said:

I do have a problem with no apparent solution... whatever I do, I end up having way to many open tabs which I don't use and don't want to close either. At one point I was over 100

 

There are some extensions that let you save current sessions. But then, I personally end up with a ton of saved sessions which I rarely look at again  Not really a solution, more of a "hiding the pain of closing all tabs" 

[Papusan]

On 10/26/2022 at 9:48 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Good enough for me.  I'd much prefer to stick with a predictable product over one that is constantly changing, sometimes in ways that I do not appreciate. I can always change to another product if and when I have identified a need or an opportunity to use something better. Until then, don't mess with it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Maybe this will force Google to change their mind? 

 

Mozilla Firefox may continue support Windows 7 and 8.1 for longer

Mozilla may extend Firefox on Windows 7 and 8.1 support. The company has scheduled its end of support for January 2023, but now considering shifting the EOS date.

[Sandy Bridge]

Seeing some colleagues' tab collections at my new job has made me realize that my too many tabs problem is not nearly as bad as it could be.  One colleague racks up enough tabs to get lost in in Safari, and Chrome, and Firefox, all at the same time, and is always switching between browsers trying to find which sea of tabs contains the one he wants to show someone... half the time that results in giving up and just opening a new tab to find it, making the problem worse.  I've become halfway decent at cleaning up my tabs about once a day.

 

One thing I want to train myself to remember to use is Vivaldi's recent stacked tab feature.  You can stack tabs, and when you do you get a second tab row below the first one.  You can do this for multiple tabs, too.  So if I have a bunch of tabs on foxes, and a bunch of tabs on gophers, I can group them, and consolidate them into two top-level tabs, while still having plain-old regular tabs for my usual browsing of EFGXT and whatever all else I might have open.  It allows you to have 100 tabs while still being able to find what you're looking for.

 

I've also used Vivaldi's sessions feature, with mixed success.  I find it to be most useful when I'm researching a vacation plan or a purchase and it gets to be too late to wrap it up in one evening.  Save a session, look at it again the next day or next week, don't have it in my tabs forever.  I wish it synced across devices though, it's one of the few things that doesn't, but it's arguably the one I'd like to sync most as it would be really nice to be able to create a session at home and finish it at the coffee shop the next day.  I have manually synced collections by copying files via a flash drive, but it's a very '90s solution, and I always have to look up where to copy them from/to on the file system.

 

Still using Vivaldi as my main browser, both at home and work, with Firefox as secondary at both.  Firefox does win a point for being much faster to start up, especially after a boot.  Not usually a big deal but if I just need to look up one thing before I leave, I'll tend to favor Firefox.

[Etern4l]

2 hours ago, Sandy Bridge said:

Seeing some colleagues' tab collections at my new job has made me realize that my too many tabs problem is not nearly as bad as it could be.  One colleague racks up enough tabs to get lost in in Safari, and Chrome, and Firefox, all at the same time, and is always switching between browsers trying to find which sea of tabs contains the one he wants to show someone... half the time that results in giving up and just opening a new tab to find it, making the problem worse.  I've become halfway decent at cleaning up my tabs about once a day.

 

One thing I want to train myself to remember to use is Vivaldi's recent stacked tab feature.  You can stack tabs, and when you do you get a second tab row below the first one.  You can do this for multiple tabs, too.  So if I have a bunch of tabs on foxes, and a bunch of tabs on gophers, I can group them, and consolidate them into two top-level tabs, while still having plain-old regular tabs for my usual browsing of EFGXT and whatever all else I might have open.  It allows you to have 100 tabs while still being able to find what you're looking for.

 

I've also used Vivaldi's sessions feature, with mixed success.  I find it to be most useful when I'm researching a vacation plan or a purchase and it gets to be too late to wrap it up in one evening.  Save a session, look at it again the next day or next week, don't have it in my tabs forever.  I wish it synced across devices though, it's one of the few things that doesn't, but it's arguably the one I'd like to sync most as it would be really nice to be able to create a session at home and finish it at the coffee shop the next day.  I have manually synced collections by copying files via a flash drive, but it's a very '90s solution, and I always have to look up where to copy them from/to on the file system.

 

Still using Vivaldi as my main browser, both at home and work, with Firefox as secondary at both.  Firefox does win a point for being much faster to start up, especially after a boot.  Not usually a big deal but if I just need to look up one thing before I leave, I'll tend to favor Firefox.

 

Have you had a chance to compare Vivaldi with Brave?  

[RS4]

Chrome/Brave users can try the Session Buddy extension:

 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/edacconmaakjimmfgnblocblbcdcpbko

[Sandy Bridge]

On 11/10/2022 at 3:02 AM, Etern4l said:

 

Have you had a chance to compare Vivaldi with Brave?  

Well, I've had the chance, but not the motivation.  Brave's crypto integrations are a big turn-off for me, the ad system is not preferable to just running uBlock Origin in any old browser, and its other main pitch seems to be on the privacy front, where I have no problems with Vivaldi or Firefox.

 

Vivaldi's appeal to me is in its power user features and customizability (being the spiritual successor to Opera).  Firefox is just generally all around pretty good and for some sites the Gecko engine is preferable to the Blink engine, especially ones with heavy CSS animations.

[Papusan]

Microsoft Edge gained less than 2% market share in 2022

neowin.com · Jan 2, 2023 28

Statcounter's monthly report is out, bringing new data about desktop browsers and operating systems. According to the latest findings, Edge did not gain much audience in December 2022.

 

Why isn't Google Chrome losing market share? ghacks.net

Google's Chrome web browser is the dominating web browser on desktop and on mobile. Statcounter, one of the leading third-party trackers of usage, lists the worldwide market share of Chrome by 66.14% on desktop and 64.31% on mobile in December 2022.

[raptorddd]

am using edge. wich browser would be ok. one that uses less resources.

and how do remove edge.?

[epguy3]

On 11/4/2022 at 6:31 PM, Papusan said:

Maybe this will force Google to change their mind? 

 

Mozilla Firefox may continue support Windows 7 and 8.1 for longer

Mozilla may extend Firefox on Windows 7 and 8.1 support. The company has scheduled its end of support for January 2023, but now considering shifting the EOS date.

 

 

Mozilla recently just did extend/continue Windows 7 & 8.1 support for Firefox until late 2024

 

Firefox gives Windows 7 and 8 users more than one extra year of support

 

Firefox will support Windows 7 and 8.1 until 2024 via the ESR channel

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

Mole and Tor launch privacy-focused browser

• Software
• today 18:49

Mullvad Browser is a new browser that takes the privacy features of Tor Browser but scales away the slow Tor network.

 

The Tor Project has teamed up with the Swedish VPN service Mullvad and is launching a new browser . The developers at the Tor Project are behind the privacy-focused browser for the Tor network, Tor Browser, but for many users it's not a viable alternative to regular browsers because everything is much slower. At the same time, Tor Browser has many smart privacy protection features that are not related to the Tor network, and that's where the new browser comes into play.

[Ishayin]

If anyone is interested in trying something a bit different I would recommend having a look at Min:
https://minbrowser.org/
https://github.com/minbrowser/min

 

I wouldn't use it as my main browser, but it is really nice for certain jobs where you want a more minimal UI. I recently was looking up some data hosted in some massive data arrays by the WHO, and Min was the only browser that could manage to scroll through the tables perfectly smoothly :)

[Aaron44126]

Windows 7/8/8.1

Mozilla has detailed plans for end of support.  Firefox 115, releasing in July, will be the last version supported.  Firefox 116 (August) will not support Windows 7/8/8.1.  Firefox 115 will have an ESR version that will continue to get updates through September 2024, so Windows 7/8/8.1 users may use that to stretch out support.

[6730b]

Faithfull to Firefox after all these years, it's pricacy settings, the available addons, it's general behavior\speed\layout etc.

Vivaldi as secondary (non-noscript) browser, enjoying it's endless configurations possibilities.

[ryan]

Checked out opera gx. Really well done, interface is slick and performance is fast. Very very nice 

[Papusan]

Brave's search engine is now completely independent from Google and Bing

• Software
• today 09:12

Privacy-focused browser Brave reduces dependence on Google and Microsoft with new internal search engine for text, image and video.

[Papusan]

Imagine if Microsoft have done the same stupid with Windows as Google Chrome head to bro @Mr. Fox Weekly updates.... Retarded!!!! Whats next? Daily updates?

 

Google Chrome is now releasing security updates weekly

This change narrows time between security patches, in order to reduce the ability to exploit vulnerabilities.

[Aaron44126]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Imagine if Microsoft have done the same stupid with Windows as Google Chrome head to bro @Mr. Fox Weekly updates.... Retarded!!!! Whats next? Daily updates?

 

Eh?  Being based on Chromium, I fully expect Microsoft to move to the same release schedule as Google in short order, as well as other browsers that run off of Chromium (Opera, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.).  They won't want to be seen as "behind" on security.

 

...At least updates are handled in a mostly transparent fashion and most users won't notice (other than the occasional prompt to restart your browser, if you don't already shut your machine down daily).  The weekly updates are only bugfixes.  "Major" updates will continue at the four-week cadence.

[Mr. Fox]

Wow. Just. Wow. I had not heard about this until just now. This is totally Satanic crap. I don't want to stop using Chrome, but this makes me want to see very, very horrible bad things happen to the bastards at Google. This wicked Nazi dictator behavior is inexcusable and it is deserving of death for the company.

 

 

[Bullit]

The vote should allow for various browsers not only 1.

[6730b]

A little offtopic, anyone has tested the duck ?
https://duckduckgo.com/windows

Am using their android version, fast and no clutter.

[6730b]

"Chrome's invasive new ad platform, ridiculously branded the "Privacy Sandbox"

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/09/googles-widely-opposed-ad-platform-the-privacy-sandbox-launches-in-chrome/

[serpro69]

Anyone concerned about privacy in browsers, there's a nice overview here https://privacytests.org/ 

Was considering trying out Vivaldi - looks interesting enough, but privacy-related it seems to be behind on so many things compared to Brave and Firefox that I'll probably stick to what I use today.

[saturnotaku]

5 hours ago, serpro69 said:

Anyone concerned about privacy in browsers, there's a nice overview here https://privacytests.org/ 

Was considering trying out Vivaldi - looks interesting enough, but privacy-related it seems to be behind on so many things compared to Brave and Firefox that I'll probably stick to what I use today.

 

Librewolf looks interesting, though Edge + AdGuard has worked really well for me for years now.

[serpro69]

15 hours ago, saturnotaku said:

Librewolf looks interesting

 

Yeah, I also noticed that one and was doing some reading about it yesterday. Not sure if it can qualify as a main-driver for me, but definitely worth taking a closer look at. 

[Papusan]

It seems Google/Alphabet finally have learned the average Joe that there is good solutions to reduce ads on the internet (use adblockers). Google's hard work to get rid of ad-blockers on YouTube will clearly backfire on them. Stupid is the new norm @Mr. Fox++++ 

 

 

And I hope EU look into this....