K4sum1 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 https://files.catbox.moe/1vsfgo.mp4 Â Video is shaky because I've rerecorded this a few times, so my arm was getting tired. I think it's a VRAM issue since it crashes to a screen that has a color, however I think it's fully dead as this is after modding the BIOS to have a lower core clock, and a 1000MHz lower memory clock. Windows 10 is the only one that sometimes boots in normal mode, 8.1/10 are the only ones that sometimes boots into safe mode. Safe mode doesn't crash if I can get it to boot, but the artifacts are still there. Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 hours ago, K4sum1 said: https://files.catbox.moe/1vsfgo.mp4  Video is shaky because I've rerecorded this a few times, so my arm was getting tired. I think it's a VRAM issue since it crashes to a screen that has a color, however I think it's fully dead as this is after modding the BIOS to have a lower core clock, and a 1000MHz lower memory clock. Windows 10 is the only one that sometimes boots in normal mode, 8.1/10 are the only ones that sometimes boots into safe mode. Safe mode doesn't crash if I can get it to boot, but the artifacts are still there. If the 980m manages to pass the MATS test, there is a more in depth test called MODS. There are tutorials online that I don't have time to find right now, but are really helpful as MODS is very confusing to use. Watch this video and see if it truly is a VRAM issue. If you don't mind, send the log from MATS after you run the test and we can go from there. Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS  Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Tenoroon said: If the 980m manages to pass the MATS test, there is a more in depth test called MODS. There are tutorials online that I don't have time to find right now, but are really helpful as MODS is very confusing to use. Watch this video and see if it truly is a VRAM issue. If you don't mind, send the log from MATS after you run the test and we can go from there. Well, I decided to put the old FirePro M4000 it came with back in. I'm not sure what is wrong, but it's not something that can be easily fixed. 1 Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, K4sum1 said: Well, I decided to put the old FirePro M4000 it came with back in. I'm not sure what is wrong, but it's not something that can be easily fixed. Well there's many things that could be wrong, but the most likely suspect would probably be 1 or many VRAM chips. If there are many dead/dying VRAM chips, then the source problem could be either a dead memory controller on the core, or the power rail for the VRAM is dying/dead. If it is just 1 VRAM chip that is giving you problems, then the fix is most likely going to be replacing the memory chip, but could also be replacing a dead resistor that is near the "failing" memory chip. Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS  Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 It’s a sign to upgrade into at least the 20 series. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 So, I tried the thing, but it only gets this far. Usually it reboots instantly after showing this, but sometimes it hangs. Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 hours ago, K4sum1 said: So, I tried the thing, but it only gets this far. Usually it reboots instantly after showing this, but sometimes it hangs. That seems to be MODS, I am assuming you have tried MATS first. MODS is really confusing to use. I've never needed to use it, but I would assume there are guides out there of how to use it. I am in a discord server for a guy named Tech Cemetery who fixes GPUs. His server might have a guide of how to use MODS, I'll dig through there and see if I can find anything. Its a patreon only server though, and I'm only in because I was in before he switched it, so I can't type in any of the channels. My assistance may be limited. Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS  Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tenoroon said: That seems to be MODS, I am assuming you have tried MATS first. MODS is really confusing to use. I've never needed to use it, but I would assume there are guides out there of how to use it. I am in a discord server for a guy named Tech Cemetery who fixes GPUs. His server might have a guide of how to use MODS, I'll dig through there and see if I can find anything. Its a patreon only server though, and I'm only in because I was in before he switched it, so I can't type in any of the channels. My assistance may be limited. Oh, I was on mobile, and I didn't want to use my speaker to watch the vid, so I just tried what seemed obvious, which was Rufus and the image. Tomorrow I can try MATS. Â (I made the USB with the laptop, without any internet because I don't have drivers on it.) Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 I forgot. Guess I'll do it tomorrow, if I don't forget again. Â Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/23/2022 at 11:16 PM, Tenoroon said: That seems to be MODS, I am assuming you have tried MATS first. MODS is really confusing to use. I've never needed to use it, but I would assume there are guides out there of how to use it. I am in a discord server for a guy named Tech Cemetery who fixes GPUs. His server might have a guide of how to use MODS, I'll dig through there and see if I can find anything. Its a patreon only server though, and I'm only in because I was in before he switched it, so I can't type in any of the channels. My assistance may be limited. Unless I missed something, this should be MODS. Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, K4sum1 said: Unless I missed something, this should be MODS. Yeah, MODS is difficult to use. MATS is a bit easier, but can't diagnose all issues. Use MATS first and then try MODS if MATS does not yield any results. Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS  Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, Tenoroon said: Yeah, MODS is difficult to use. MATS is a bit easier, but can't diagnose all issues. Use MATS first and then try MODS if MATS does not yield any results. All these names confused me, I meant MATS. 1 Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 man don't bother fixing the petty 1650 is faster and laptops with it can be had for less than 400 usd ZEUS-COMING SOON       Omen 16 2021       Zenbook 14 oled       Vivobook 15x oled  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 I like my big laptops, and not being able to swap stuffs cringe. Â 2 Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 yeah I actually agree. I miss the old MXM days. I remember ording a 6990m laptop and the next year a 7970m came out and all I had to pay was 500 for it for double the performance...but to be positive if you sell your old laptop and use that money for the upgrade you might be able to bounce higher with like 500 outta pocket. thoughts? ZEUS-COMING SOON       Omen 16 2021       Zenbook 14 oled       Vivobook 15x oled  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarG Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 3:55 PM, K4sum1 said: https://files.catbox.moe/1vsfgo.mp4 Â Video is shaky because I've rerecorded this a few times, so my arm was getting tired. I think it's a VRAM issue since it crashes to a screen that has a color, however I think it's fully dead as this is after modding the BIOS to have a lower core clock, and a 1000MHz lower memory clock. Windows 10 is the only one that sometimes boots in normal mode, 8.1/10 are the only ones that sometimes boots into safe mode. Safe mode doesn't crash if I can get it to boot, but the artifacts are still there. Do you have multimeter ? I can help you. I know how you're feeling. I would never exchange mine 8570w for anything. I live from repairing notebooks, and let me tell you, our notebooks are far from being unusable or being worse than newer ones. Maybe in some special scenarios they may be slower.. otherwise as for normal users, they are beasts indeed. I used mine with Clevo GTX 980m, now I use Quadro P5200. I don't know where you from, but I though about selling it on this forum. Cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Mashcar said: Do you have multimeter ? I can help you. I know how you're feeling. I would never exchange mine 8570w for anything. I live from repairing notebooks, and let me tell you, our notebooks are far from being unusable or being worse than newer ones. Maybe in some special scenarios they may be slower.. otherwise as for normal users, they are beasts indeed. I used mine with Clevo GTX 980m, now I use Quadro P5200. I don't know where you from, but I though about selling it on this forum. Cheers! tech bros helping one another, i like that 🙂 although might be a bit late for the OP? its been a while.... Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black  My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Mashcar said: Do you have multimeter ? I can help you. I know how you're feeling. I would never exchange mine 8570w for anything. I live from repairing notebooks, and let me tell you, our notebooks are far from being unusable or being worse than newer ones. Maybe in some special scenarios they may be slower.. otherwise as for normal users, they are beasts indeed. I used mine with Clevo GTX 980m, now I use Quadro P5200. I don't know where you from, but I though about selling it on this forum. Cheers! I have a multimeter, but the probes are kinda big, not sure if I could do anything really fine with it. Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarG Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 hours ago, K4sum1 said: I have a multimeter, but the probes are kinda big, not sure if I could do anything really fine with it. It is not really a problem, those inductors we need to check are also very big You have to check with ohm measurement every coil on mxm board, one probe to coil and second to ground (for ex. mounting place for screws). Write those as numbered  And by the way, can you show me what heatsink are you using ? I'm asking because your HP shipped with AMD card and there are 2 different ones for this laptop.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 So I was a bit busy, but I've finally gotten around to it. I probed both sides and found the same numbers. Not sure what measurement unit it is as my multimeter doesn't say. Â I bought the K4000 heatsink since it was cheap and I heard it was the same as the K5000 heatsink. I can take a pic if necessary, but this is the one. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bPIAAOSw7I5a8pO9/s-l9999.jpg Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarG Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 hours ago, K4sum1 said: So I was a bit busy, but I've finally gotten around to it. I probed both sides and found the same numbers. Not sure what measurement unit it is as my multimeter doesn't say. Â I bought the K4000 heatsink since it was cheap and I heard it was the same as the K5000 heatsink. I can take a pic if necessary, but this is the one. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bPIAAOSw7I5a8pO9/s-l9999.jpg Values are in good range for this card, mine have similiar ones, so that shouldn't be power problem. But I will check inductor number 4 to be 100% sure, because this one is for GDDR power I think.. 24 ohms may be too small value for it. Give me few days I will check. Yes, you have correct heatsink for mxm 3.0b cards, original one for ATI M4000 is singlepiped mxm 3.0a. There are only two version for GPU and for CPU. Single heatpipe for dual cores and dual heatpipe for quadcores. Did you used some thermal pad for VRM and memory chips ? Also, if you could attach some HQ pictures of your GTX from both sides. Lastly, check how it behaves on VGA output or displayport only ! If screen will get frozen, click Caps Lock / Numlock and check if diode turn on/off. Cheers! Â EDIT. Check your vbios version with GPU-Z and driver version also please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 Here's images of my card I used thermal pads on my card, I'll attach the image guide I used too. I don't have it installed, and not sure when I could be bothered to reinstall the card, install 10, install drivers, and see what a second monitor does. Â Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarG Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Sorry for long time no writing. Those artifacts can be problem with video ram or main chip on that mxm board. You could check which one is problem by using hot air station or something similar. With hot air station you it directly above every video ram chip, one at time, check in system if there are still artifact, and go to next one until you find which one. 400 degrees celsius and 8 to 10 seconds is suffice. If GPU core is not problem then there is chance to repair this card : ) replacing one or two video ram is worth it. Replacing main core is totally not worth. Cheers  EDIT. By checking video on VGA output or DP output you can be 70% more sure what's problem. In case of artifacts on every output, there is a big chance of vRAM problem. If this problem exist mostly on internal LCD - then main chip is 99% faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4sum1 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 How do I get external output without a driver? Precision M4800 - i7 4810MQ, 32GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro M2200 Thinkpad T430 - i7 3630QM, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 4000, 1080p display mod Main PC - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB RAM, RTX 2080 Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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