ryan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Since i'm looking for a gaming laptop under 1800 I'd like to add I currently have a omen 16 with the 3060 and its a great laptop however im looking for more performance, I'm pretty sure I can sell it for 1800 cad hence the title. I'm looking for a 3080 laptop on a sale or a 3070 full fat model with good specs and trust the opinions of you Ol NBRs. I'm down for any size, but prefer somewhat thinner, as long as its not as @papusan would say or @Mr. Fox castrated. open too all suggestions or Should I just keep the omen 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It is unfortunate, but I don't think you can actually buy an excellent laptop anymore that has "no restrictions" because 100% of them have at least a couple of glaring defects relating to performance restrictions and/or thermal management. Since you already have it, I'd say just keep the Omen and make the best of it. Even if it wasn't necessarily the best choice, the reality is that nothing available will be remarkably superior to the Omen. Nobody builds/sells anything remarkable in laptops. Build a desktop instead. 1 1 Wraith // EVGA Z690 Dark K|NGP|N | 13900K | EVGA 3090 K|NGP|N | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 1600 P2 | HC-500A Chiller | MO-RA3 360 Banshee // ASUS Strix Z690-E | 13900KF | EVGA 3060 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 850 B5 | XT45 1080 Nova Custom Loop Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertzian56 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 LOL dude just LOL. Maybe just go desktop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 oh cmon I dont have that many laptops in and out. I was just thinking there must be a laptop around 1800 with a 3080...im in it this time for the long run although i wish i bought a 2060 laptop 2 years ago....would have been the best bang for the buck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertzian56 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Ok from my recollection it was a 1060 laptop, then a 1650 and now a 3060, it's not that much I guess but sounds like a hassle to go find the best specs for the best bang. I guess if you enjoy that go for it. My point was that you can get ultimate performance with a desktop, done for a few years and you could just upgrade the gpu in that case rather than the whole system. Want more system ram, skys the limit now in desktops, more vram just get another gpu, a LOT less fan noise while playing, want to go to 4k just buy another screen etc What's your objective here too? Is the 3060 not giving you something you really want? Is it FPS, resolution, high enough settings, lack of possible system RAM, lack of gpu vram? I mean for me I don't need 2k/4k or highest settings in my games, I still think 1k high settings around 60fps is totally fine, especially on a small 15.6 screen. I can use DSR to upscale to near 2k but obviously it's just a form of AA on my 1080 screen, but I could output it to a 2k screen, no plans on buying a 2k+ screen though. I accept ever lower settings in new games for a few years no big deal. Elden Ring looks absolutely amazing to me at 1k/~60 mix of settings with some stutter in places but mostly very smooth fast panning etc There are a million games that my 2060m can kill, maybe 1-2 per year that are AAA ones I want to play that I have to turn it down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING19 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, ryan said: oh cmon I dont have that many laptops in and out. I was just thinking there must be a laptop around 1800 with a 3080...im in it this time for the long run although i wish i bought a 2060 laptop 2 years ago....would have been the best bang for the buck You're not going to find a RTX 3080 laptop at that price range. Correct me if i am wrong but isnt 1800 cad is around $1400 USD? if so then thats the average price of a RTX 3060 laptop which your OMEN is. I dont know what type of performance you are looking for but you should keep your OMEN because an RTX 3060 can handle every game out there currently plus you're going to be paying a lot more for an RTX 3080 laptop. Another thing if you go thinner you're gonna get a lower wattage version of a GPU that'll have less performance than the full wattage version. 1 Current Laptop: Lenovo Legion 5: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 2.8Ghz (Boost: 4.2Ghz), 6GB Nvidia Geforce GTX 1660Ti GDDR6 Memory, 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz IPS display, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 memory, 512GB M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD, 1 TB Teamgroup MP34 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD, Windows 10 Home 21H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 There is always diminishing returns as you run up the mountain. You would likely need to sell your current machine and then keep an eye out for a used listing. That or buy into the x170 and build it up over time. I have been liking what Lenovo has been putting out the past few years and it may be closer to what you might be looking for in terms of form factor. It would also help if you use the template so that people can properly look at the outlets you may or likely to consider buying from and pitch a proper deal. 1 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 heres my laptop https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16834273329?Description=omen 16&cm_re=omen_16-_-34-273-329-_-Product maybe its about as good as it gets for a 3060 laptop.....but i cant imagine having a 3080...perhaps in a few years i should just go the egpu route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamibot Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 The 3060 is the best bang for buck GPU on the laptop side of things this GPU generation. The laptop 3080 performs about as good as the desktop 3060 TI does, so I'd suggest keeping your HP Omen and waiting for the next generation of laptops if you want a performance upgrade for a reasonable price. If you absolutely need the performance now, there isn't any 3080 laptop that is reasonably priced. You'll have to shell out at least an extra $1000 to get one, and it'll be about a 35% increase in performance over a 3060. If you're ok with a portable SFF desktop, you can try going that route, which is what I would recommend with the current state of things with the laptop market. The 3060 TI seems to be the best bang for buck GPU on the desktop side this gen. 1 1 AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 It is difficult to find value in any kind of new tech. Everything is priced for more than it's worth on both mobile and desktop, and a lot of the expensive cutting edge stuff has compromises. If what you have is getting the job done, the best plan is to do nothing at all and keep using what you already have. You can expect that new stuff is going to include everything you hate about what you already have, plus some new crap you're going to dislike that wasn't invented yet the last time money burned a hole in your pocket 3 1 Wraith // EVGA Z690 Dark K|NGP|N | 13900K | EVGA 3090 K|NGP|N | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 1600 P2 | HC-500A Chiller | MO-RA3 360 Banshee // ASUS Strix Z690-E | 13900KF | EVGA 3060 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 850 B5 | XT45 1080 Nova Custom Loop Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I'm a firm believer in don't upgrade till you see a need. If your Omen is handling it close to your expectations save your coin and wait for newer models and/or for your laptop to suddenly stop performing to contemplate upgrades/changes. Only reason I upgraded from my P870TMw/ 1060 to an X170SM-G w/ 2080 Super was because WoW Shadowlands suddenly reduced my normally 60-80fps @ Ultra 10 to 20-30fps at level 7 in some areas. A need presented itself and I was left with upgrading the GPU or selling it (parted it out) and replacing the entire thing. Now I'm running around at 144fps just about everywhere. If you are unhappy with the gaming performance your only options are 3070(ti) / 3080(ti). Check out some reviews and see the performance delta between your results and what they are seeing to give you some idea of a baseline and go from there. Your laptop does have a TB4 port so you could contemplate an external GPU when home. 2 1 Electrosoft Prime: 12900k | Asus Z690 Strix D4 | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420mm AIO | G.Skill 4133 2x16GB B-Die G1 | Samsung 980 1TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | LG 49" 144hz IPS Heath: i3-12100f | Asrock B660M Pro RS | Intel A770 LE | 32GB Klex 3600mhz | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | HP ZR30w 30" 2560x1600 IPS MelMel: i5-12500 | Asus Prime B660 | Asrock Intel A380 | 16GB G.Skill 3600mhz | 512GB M.2 | Gamdias | Dell 25" 240hz 1080p ZtecPC X170SM-G Prema | SL 10900k | Nvidia RTX 2080 Super (Currently DOA) | Corsair 3800 @ 3200 14-14-14 | 17.3" 1080p 144hz Boxx X170KM-G | 11900k | Nvidia RTX 3070 | Corsair 3200 64GB (2x32GB) | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB | 17.3" 1080p 144hz MSI GL66 Pulse | i7-12700h | RTX 3070 | 512GB | 16GB | 15.6" 144hz 1080 IPS ** Acer Nitro 5 | i5-10300H | RTX 3050 | 16GB | 256GB | 15.6" 144hz 1080p IPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 yeah I decided to hang on to it and go the egpu route in a few years...not a heavy gamer so i should be set for a while 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 These new laptops are starting to look like smart phones I bought this GOBOXX SLM G2721 2 mos ago for $800 bucks on ebay and I aint buying another new until I can get a robot dog that can jump up on my bench and turn into a laptop 1 1 1 1 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-16GB DDR3-Quadro P4000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 16GB DDR3-1866 Quadro P4000 Precision m6700 i7-3840QM - 16.0GB DDR3 - GTX 970M Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 32GB DDR3-1600 GTX 680M 120hz 3D Precision m4700 i7-3610QM-8.00GB DDR3 @ 1600MHz-K2000M GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4(Gave to my Wife) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 3/31/2022 at 2:43 PM, ryan said: yeah I decided to hang on to it and go the egpu route in a few years...not a heavy gamer so i should be set for a while Smart move, by a smart guy. On 4/1/2022 at 7:32 PM, aldarxt said: These new laptops are starting to look like smart phones I bought this GOBOXX SLM G2721 2 mos ago for $800 bucks on ebay and I aint buying another new until I can get a robot dog that can jump up on my bench and turn into a laptop Many of them are little more than a glorified smartphone. Hardware is being toned down and the OS dumbed down. That said, they are not as unpleasant and cumbersome. 2 Wraith // EVGA Z690 Dark K|NGP|N | 13900K | EVGA 3090 K|NGP|N | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 1600 P2 | HC-500A Chiller | MO-RA3 360 Banshee // ASUS Strix Z690-E | 13900KF | EVGA 3060 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA 850 B5 | XT45 1080 Nova Custom Loop Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 10:32 PM, aldarxt said: These new laptops are starting to look like smart phones I bought this GOBOXX SLM G2721 2 mos ago for $800 bucks on ebay and I aint buying another new until I can get a robot dog that can jump up on my bench and turn into a laptop OK just found this for $100,000 1 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-16GB DDR3-Quadro P4000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 16GB DDR3-1866 Quadro P4000 Precision m6700 i7-3840QM - 16.0GB DDR3 - GTX 970M Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 32GB DDR3-1600 GTX 680M 120hz 3D Precision m4700 i7-3610QM-8.00GB DDR3 @ 1600MHz-K2000M GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4(Gave to my Wife) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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