P106m with Dell Precision M6600

[Nowan]

Hello everyone

 

wanted to share some science stuff on m6600 with a delided p106m. with optimus enable by using m4000m cause p106m does not have output with or without edp screen as i installed it on my m6700 and had upgraded the screen to edp screen before my p4000 was delivered and m6600 had FirePro m6100. I used gigabytes drivers that have hardware id for it but they are outdated. I did some benchmark of 3dmark vantage with high setting 1080p idk if it has v sync option but no v sync was used and used the latest 3dmark basic edition with 1080p. may not be accurate benchmark as basic edition restrict you from changing the settings. perhap it maybe beated the gtx 680m or performs worse. I try to do some dx12 benchmark but ended with errors perhaps the driver are old or some stuff are missing cause the drivers are made for mining gpus. i didnt used the lastest geforce driver cause i forgot to snap shot the hardware id on the first try as this is the second try. what i mean by that is there is a issue with nvidia optimus a bios or gpu issue but is disable but can still used until u turn off, put to sleep, and restart the laptop will switch to p106m as display instead of hd 3000. perhaps the tesla m6 work with no optimus issues? but may not be worth? using optimus could hurt performance i heard by bottlenecking the bandwidth as data goes forward and backward to hd 3000 to display it.

[jaybee83]

first time ive seen someone delid a laptop gpu 😄 how did u go about it?

[Nowan]

i used picture reference from powertech to know where the small capacitors on chip without nicking them with the box cutter blade. then i wiggle the cover off carefully thinking i might rip some die pieces like deliding modern intel CPUs. i think they thermal glue on those CPUs. my was dry thermal paste.

 

[sliderfra]

you need to install modded nvidia drivers to get the p106m to work (2 inf files need modification).

Mine is shown as Geforce 1060 GTX on device manager.

I'd be curious to see the card work on your m6600, as it's commonly known that dell m6600 has crippled bios and cannot accept newer cards than Fermi

[Nowan]

Should have made the mod driver but instead used that one for a quick test 😅 because it was getting late at night. I’ll try it again with those drivers.

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[Nowan]

On 9/11/2022 at 12:09 AM, sliderfra said:

you need to install modded nvidia drivers to get the p106m to work (2 inf files need modification).

Mine is shown as Geforce 1060 GTX on device manager.

I'd be curious to see the card work on your m6600, as it's commonly known that dell m6600 has crippled bios and cannot accept newer cards than Fermi

What’s the other file that needs to be edited?

[TruenoG7]

I would like you to try the Tesla M6 even if you don't believe it, if it would be worth using it in optimus mode, the performance loss is minimal, no more than 10% and it depends a lot on the game

[sliderfra]

On 8/8/2022 at 9:51 PM, Nowan said:

Hello everyone

 

wanted to share some science stuff on m6600 with a delided p106m. with optimus enable by using m4000m cause p106m does not have output with or without edp screen as i installed it on my m6700 and had upgraded the screen to edp screen before my p4000 was delivered and m6600 had FirePro m6100. I used gigabytes drivers that have hardware id for it but they are outdated. I did some benchmark of 3dmark vantage with high setting 1080p idk if it has v sync option but no v sync was used and used the latest 3dmark basic edition with 1080p. may not be accurate benchmark as basic edition restrict you from changing the settings. perhap it maybe beated the gtx 680m or performs worse. I try to do some dx12 benchmark but ended with errors perhaps the driver are old or some stuff are missing cause the drivers are made for mining gpus. i didnt used the lastest geforce driver cause i forgot to snap shot the hardware id on the first try as this is the second try. what i mean by that is there is a issue with nvidia optimus a bios or gpu issue but is disable but can still used until u turn off, put to sleep, and restart the laptop will switch to p106m as display instead of hd 3000. perhaps the tesla m6 work with no optimus issues? but may not be worth? using optimus could hurt performance i heard by bottlenecking the bandwidth as data goes forward and backward to hd 3000 to display it.

 

Hi,

Strange you have bad results with p106m.
I tested the card on MSI GT60 / 70, on Alienware 17 & m17x R4 (needs unlocked bios to be in SG mode), DELL M6700 (needs OPTIMUS on) and HP ZBook (needs OPTIMUS on) and it works flawlessly. I have around 2500pts on time spy.

Only caveat is that the frequency is very low (1290Mhz) and there's no BOOST on this one. Second problem is BIOS structure is different to Geforce 1060 GTX so all registers are different... It's a shame because the card runs super cool (60° on full load on MSI GT60, even less on Alienware).

Be aware that on Dell Precision & Zbook you loose all external output except VGA (as HDMI/DP are linked to PCIe mxm directly). On MSI GT & Alienware, outputs are OK though.

[Nowan]

Yeah the only gpu that work without swap back and forth with m4000m to re enable Optimus is quadro p4000 but couldn’t use it Optimus option unless…hardware I’d or something about the lastest driver vs the outdated Gigabyte drivers I used on the p106m with working Optimus? Cause there are 2 I’d of 1bb7 . Even tho I used power tech driver signed option. Wonder if anyone have suggestions way to get it to work . I try to reflash the hp m4000m and hp se 3000m i gotten with the adapter I used to reflash the p4000 on the same pc I used is a second gen cpu, and I tried the Pentium 4 build pc  but it didn’t recognize like it’s not the device manager. Not even nvflash can’t find it. I think it require Intel third gen level bios pc cause it recognize on my m6700 on device  manager when I didn’t had the p4000. But haven’t did it yet. 

[Nowan]

On 12/19/2022 at 9:46 AM, TruenoG7 said:

I would like you to try the Tesla M6 even if you don't believe it, if it would be worth using it in optimus mode, the performance loss is minimal, no more than 10% and it depends a lot on the game

I gotten my hands on Tesla M6 and it resulted that optimus didn't function even with the trick i did on p106m. with the trick: it did display with intel gpu on the screen but the gpu wasn't on device manager, when I restart to see how it behaves. it turn on with no display but able booted windows. does Tesla M6 require some type vbios to work i hear for optimus to work ?

[Zeht]

15 hours ago, Nowan said:

I gotten my hands on Tesla M6 and it resulted that optimus didn't function even with the trick i did on p106m. with the trick: it did display with intel gpu on the screen but the gpu wasn't on device manager, when I restart to see how it behaves. it turn on with no display but able booted windows. does Tesla M6 require some type vbios to work i hear for optimus to work ?

Check out this video, its in spanish but should be pretty straightforward

[Nowan]

On 4/18/2024 at 5:32 AM, Zeht said:

Check out this video, its in spanish but should be pretty straightforward

nope didnt work. i flash the vbios in the linked video still optimus is disable/didnt worked. 😕

[Zeht]

16 hours ago, Nowan said:

nope didnt work. i flash the vbios in the linked video still optimus is disable/didnt worked. 😕

Dumb question but is optimus/switchable graphics enabled in bios?, if it already is then unfortunately I got no clue

[Nowan]

3 hours ago, Zeht said:

Dumb question but is optimus/switchable graphics enabled in bios?, if it already is then unfortunately I got no clue

when i put like m4000m or p4000 it is enable by default and u have option in the vbios. but for p106m and m6 when changing to those gpu, optimus is enable but the option is not available on vbios, after u turn off it switch to gpu display even tho those gpu dont have display. it will boot to windows but with no display.