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I wonder why there's no section for Apple under 'Notebook Manufacturers' sub-forum?

 

Although I can definitely understand why MacBook wouldn't generally be popular with the majority on these forums. Don't get me wrong, I dislike Apple products as much as the next guy, whether they're phones or notebooks, even the OS itself bothers me a lot (which is one of the main reasons I almost never consider macbooks). But with Apple's new M1(2) chips, looking at what other manufacturers have to offer this year, and if I don't care about gaming, I think macbooks could be an alternative for a work-oriented laptop.

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There was an Apple subforum, but it had zero posts after almost six months, so it got deleted...

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Oh, I see. Tried to search a bit before making this post, since it was strange that there hasn't been a forum before, but didn't find anything useful.

Can't say I'm very surprised Apple isn't popular here :classic_laugh:
I suppose https://notebooktalk.net/forum/71-other-manufacturers/ could also be used for this purpose if anyone has to share anything about Apple.

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3 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

There was an Apple subforum, but it had zero posts after almost six months, so it got deleted...

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TBH I have warmed up to Apple a lot over the past several years.

  • I use an iPhone X (that's a 2017 phone and it's getting iOS 16 this month — I love how they support the phones with OS updates way longer than you see on the Android side).
  • My kids have iPads (best "tablet" by far, the Android tablet ecosystem seems to have sort of died...).
  • I use Apple Watch and I love it... granted you have to have an iPhone to use it, but .  I have an old Series 3, but I will be picking up a Series 8 when it launches in the next month or so; the body temperature sensor system is a pretty cool improvement, and while Android Wear platform is slowly coming along, it seems like Apple Watch has a definite leg up on anything else on the market in terms of breadth of capabilities.
  • I use Apple TV as my streaming box (supports all streaming services & a very wide array of TV/audio technologies, no ads like are starting to pop into Amazon Fire Stick & Google TV platforms, no content distribution issues like Roku periodically runs into, ...).

I see macOS as a potential way to get off of Windows without dealing with the hassle of limited app compatibility on Linux.  (I have some core apps like Quicken and OneNote with no viable replacement on Linux and no good way to get the Windows version working either, without resorting to a full Windows VM...  But they have fully supported macOS versions.)  Apple's M1 and M2 platforms are really pushing the envelope in terms of computing potential and energy efficiency.  In the end, though, I can't get behind Apple's laptop hardware.  No removable battery or storage (let alone memory or GPU).  The addition of the "notch" with the camera irks me (even though it does add some screen space for the top menu bar).  Heck, even no numeric keypad on the 16" system when there is definitely space for it drives me crazy.  There's also the fact that the situation for running Windows games is actually better on Linux than it is on macOS (mostly thanks to Steam Proton) and I don't really trust Apple not to break compatibility with old unupdated apps basically whenever they feel like it.  So, I continue to be stuck on Windows.

 

My two cents.  End of rant.

 

Anyway, if you want to talk about MacBooks there are certainly plenty of forums dedicated just to Apple stuff.  If Apple chatter started showing up in the "Other manufacturers" section here, I'm sure @Reciever would revisit having a subforum for it.

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    • 8× P cores ("Golden Cove"): 2.3 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading
    • 8× E cores ("Gracemont"): 1.7 GHz base, 3.6 GHz turbo
  • 128GB DDR5-3600 (CAMM)
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB (DGFF)
  • Storage:
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    • 24TB additional storage: 3× Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8TB, PCIe4 (Intel RST, RAID 0)
  • Windows 10 (Enterprise LTSC 2021)
  • 17.3" 3940×2160 display
  • Intel Wi-Fi AX211 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth)
  • 93Wh battery
  • IR webcam
  • Fingerprint reader

 

Dell Precision 7560 (work)

  • Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake")
    • 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove")
  • 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC
  • NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB
  • Storage:
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    • 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4)
  • Windows 10 (Enterprise LTSC 2021)
  • 15.6" 3940×2160 display
  • Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth)
  • 95Wh battery
  • IR webcam
  • Fingerprint reader

 

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4 hours ago, serpro69 said:

I wonder why there's no section for Apple under 'Notebook Manufacturers' sub-forum?

 

Although I can definitely understand why MacBook wouldn't generally be popular with the majority on these forums. Don't get me wrong, I dislike Apple products as much as the next guy, whether they're phones or notebooks, even the OS itself bothers me a lot (which is one of the main reasons I almost never consider macbooks). But with Apple's new M1(2) chips, looking at what other manufacturers have to offer this year, and if I don't care about gaming, I think macbooks could be an alternative for a work-oriented laptop.

 

As Aaron44126 had cited (to which I happy to see the notification for such action works, minor victory there) we had a sub-forum for Apple and a few others but we had 0 activity in those sub-forums and so we had removed their slots. 

 

That doesnt mean that said content isnt welcomed, but as a fledgling forum with 0 advertising to speak of, we cant have completely dead sub-forums either. If an Apple thread has semi-regular participation we can definitely entertain creating a sub-forum for Apple.

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22 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

TBH I have warmed up to Apple a lot over the past several years.

  • I use an iPhone X (that's a 2017 phone and it's getting iOS 16 this month — I love how they support the phones with OS updates way longer than you see on the Android side).
  • My kids have iPads (best "tablet" by far, the Android tablet ecosystem seems to have sort of died...).
  • I use Apple Watch and I love it... granted you have to have an iPhone to use it, but .  I have an old Series 3, but I will be picking up a Series 8 when it launches in the next month or so; the body temperature sensor system is a pretty cool improvement, and while Android Wear platform is slowly coming along, it seems like Apple Watch has a definite leg up on anything else on the market in terms of breadth of capabilities.
  • I use Apple TV as my streaming box (supports all streaming services & a very wide array of TV/audio technologies, no ads like are starting to pop into Amazon Fire Stick & Google TV platforms, no content distribution issues like Roku periodically runs into, ...).

I see macOS as a potential way to get off of Windows without dealing with the hassle of limited app compatibility on Linux.  (I have some core apps like Quicken and OneNote with no viable replacement on Linux and no good way to get the Windows version working either, without resorting to a full Windows VM...  But they have fully supported macOS versions.)  Apple's M1 and M2 platforms are really pushing the envelope in terms of computing potential and energy efficiency.  In the end, though, I can't get behind Apple's laptop hardware.  No removable battery or storage (let alone memory or GPU).  The addition of the "notch" with the camera irks me (even though it does add some screen space for the top menu bar).  Heck, even no numeric keypad on the 16" system when there is definitely space for it drives me crazy.  There's also the fact that the situation for running Windows games is actually better on Linux than it is on macOS (mostly thanks to Steam Proton) and I don't really trust Apple not to break compatibility with old unupdated apps basically whenever they feel like it.  So, I continue to be stuck on Windows.

 

My two cents.  End of rant.

 

Anyway, if you want to talk about MacBooks there are certainly plenty of forums dedicated just to Apple stuff.  If Apple chatter started showing up in the "Other manufacturers" section here, I'm sure @Reciever would revisit having a subforum for it.

 

fair enough, u gotta give Apple the convenience and "no fuss just go" of their walled garden ecosystem!

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I just wonder if now we'd have posts there. We do have more members now than before. 

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39 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

I just wonder if now we'd have posts there. We do have more members now than before. 

The only thread made regarding Apple at this point in the forum is right here, that I am aware of. 

 

This isn't preventing anyone from making apple threads, they are always welcome. Just like the gigabyte laptops :) 

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7 hours ago, Reciever said:

The only thread made regarding Apple at this point in the forum is right here, that I am aware of. 

 

This isn't preventing anyone from making apple threads, they are always welcome. Just like the gigabyte laptops 🙂

 

haha i think thats a pretty good indicator for demand 😄 

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