HP ZBook Fury G9/G10/G11 (16") General Thread

[Easa]

On 7/28/2024 at 3:49 PM, win32asmguy said:

 

I have a P16 G2 configured with 13950HX and 4090 mobile. It is pretty quiet running in the default balanced mode under load where the fans max out at 45dB and more importantly have no high pitched whine to them or fan duty pulsing. It can also benefit from replacing the paste on the CPU and GPU with PTM7950.

 

I will also note that with the P16 G2 if you want a heatsink with a CPU side vapor chamber you have to choose atleast an Ada3500 GPU.

 

How did you configure the P16 with RTX 4090? It is not even mentioned in the PSREF, and I have no such option here 😞 What was the cost difference vs. the ADA 5000? 

[win32asmguy]

3 hours ago, Easa said:

How did you configure the P16 with RTX 4090? It is not even mentioned in the PSREF, and I have no such option here 😞 What was the cost difference vs. the ADA 5000? 

 

It was a refurbished model from Lenovo Outlet:

 

https://www.lenovo.com/us/outletus/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16-gen-2-16-inch-intel/21fbx03500

 

It was not actively marketed as an option available as I think Lenovo (or Nvidia) wanted to steer purchasers to the Legion series. Same situation as the Precision 7680/7780. If you contact a sales rep they could probably setup a CTO quote with it. Pricing is likely around what they charge for the Ada4000 option.

[azulazul]

Thank you as well Easa. The "bigger chassis = bigger fans" is not something I had considered. After having gone through the TP fan control rabbit hole & ordering the P1G6, G7s again, I found that neither has a "quiet" fan level. I can switch both' fans off, but both are at their lowest, active level near 2400 +-100rpm which is audible + some high pitched noise in the G7. I have ordered a P16v Gen 1 as my last laptop to try & I will keep the most silent of the 3.

[fp23]

Hey Easa,

 

Thanks for this thorough review!

 

Sadly, as expected, the new Fury G11 chassis design (fans/venting) is the real culprit here. I can't understand why they keep making these mistakes, especially on a workstation that, by design, needs to have a proper cooling system.

 

It's a no-go for me, too, just because of this bad design.

 

On the other hand, as you mentioned, the P16 G2 has a good design but lacks a proper ethernet port (more acceptable to me than constantly buzzing fans).

[azulazul]

For anyone's interest. The P16v Gen 1 AMD is indeed a lot more silent & silent enough vs. the P1 G6/7. Thank you very much @win32asmguyfor recommending it. It is also roughly the size of the P1s, so overall a great replacement. The fans still spin at around 2300, but the fan itself is a lot less noisy. The fans also have a slightly different rib structure. While I still hear it, it is the closest to silent among the almost-always-on-fans I have tried & good enough. TP fan control does not appear to work any more though, which is a pity, as it doesn't recognize the fans.

[AlexT]

Hi guys! I have a question about HP Zbook Fury 16 G9,

 

The service manual indicates that 2 types of heatsinks are used: for powerful video cards and for weak video cards. They have different designs: an evaporation chamber and heat pipes.

 

For use on computer models equipped with an NVIDIA high-range graphics card N19230-001
For use on computer models equipped with an NVIDIA mid-range graphics card N19231-001

 

Which video cards are classified as "NVIDIA high-range graphics"? 

 

Do laptops with RTX 3000/ RTX 2000 video cards have good heatsinks ( high-range graphics card N19230-001) or are they still weak?

[fp23]

Hi,

 

The new version of the Zbook Fury 16 (HP ZBook Fury G1i) seems to be interesting: https://www.hp.com/us-en/workstations/zbook-fury.html

 

At least, they listened to feedback and redesigned their case to be more heat-efficient.

[Easa]

• Keyboard still needs complete disassembly of the device, but at least its not fixed to the palmrest, there are screws.
• Hinge / exhaust design looks a bit better, still far from ideal, but better. 
• Keyboard still weird with arrow keys cramped together
• Power button still part of the keyboard
• Chassis design and fittment looks to be the same as G10/G11, my previous evaluation might apply here as well
• Who the hell, in his sane mind, designs a workstation class 16/18" powerhouse, with one, and i repeat, ONE USB-A port? Its not lightweight, nor thin, there should be 3+3 A/C ports at the bare minimum. 

This, and the fact how i felt about the G10/G11 when I had the opportunity to try it for two weeks, hard pass. Awaiting P16 Gen3. 

[Alyosha2001]

  As a long time HP Elitebook 8560/Zbook user, seems like the new trend is P16 gen 3:

https://thinkstation-specs.com/thinkpad/p16-gen-3/

  As it seems to have 3 m.2 slots now and full sized 2.5Gbit pot...

  HP just keeps on putting blocks and barriers like fan control, UV, keyboard replace, only HP screens!!!, whitelists, and adding AI cooling, just being an adversary instead of a partner.

  I bought my first 8560w piece by piece and assembled and was AMAZED by it, with it's peak being the Zbook 15 G3, used in space station, the best laptop ever made!!! Dead silent in full load with UV and Fan Control, excellent sound, keyboard, trackpad, chasis, 3D Drive Guard (tested! :))) ), everything was unparalelled, it can be used in every single domain a PC can be used, with all the ports needed and even more. I exchange my keyboard about every 2 year, due to work and it's a breeze. I can do video editing and 3D navigation in video production softwares just by using the 6 button touchpad with very high speed. It even runs Houdini like a champ with 3 SSD-s and 64 RAM, does not know what bluescreen is, crashes are just to remind to change the outfit as a season has passed (from a 9 year old computer, shame on you, the rest!)!

  Then they started the downhill, probably just like M$ after W8.1, might said something like "we beat ourselves, now let's just crappify it!" - so barrier after barrier, bad decision one after another. When I bought the G6 it could do undervolt and fan control, but after bios update not only they stopped, but couldn even go back. They made sure of that. Spent 2 years trying to find a full dump of 01.02.02 until gave up on it and sent it away. With the G8 Fury, what to say... I picked it in favor of G9 just because of the still easy removable keyboard, but when they named Fury they probably meant for the noise and the fury of the user being blocked to fully utilise his asset.

 So, yeah, after more that 10 years of being an HP fanboy, as they don't seem to be be on the right track anymore and don't seem to want that, I think it's time to say "P16! This whole thread was just a loong waiting for something that did not come"