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Yeh I think the issue is the configurator all of units have the quick access bottom door On the Uk configurator it is listed as Dell Pro Max 18 Plus Quick Access Bottom Door

Not exactly true. The basic frame and chassis was the same since 2021, in 2022-23 only the Pro versions with the RTX3050 had some elementary dual cooling with the fans next to each other. But the 2024 Meteor Lake Pros changed the case completely, the dual cooling is more efficient, bigger heat pipes, fans wide apart and the dual fans were also applied to the non dGPU models. Also they had already bigger speakers and the 2025 models have twice the amount of speakers. The lower screen bezel is bigger and there is a bigger gap between the keyboard and the screen, improving even more the airflow. But the laptop is a bit deeper also and the screen stays higher, so it does not stay aligned anymore with the LG View portable monitor (this is a bummer for me). They also dropped the mini SD card reader. So basically, except the Aerominum and the new processors, all changes are just incremental. And as RS4 already wrote, probably they are killing the non Pro 16-17 versions, which was about time because their one fan thermal throttling was only causing dissatisfied customers. Prices probably will be absurdly high, but if you wait, the Grams depreciation is always quite steep. The AI bubble will soon bust, Crucial/Micron will regret abandoning retail customers, and IT companies will beg consumers to buy.

I just saw this thread which is recently active. It looks like you're better off with the comparable Precision:

Thanks - that is a big surprise to find all of these for download on the bottom of the revision history page! I had a look at the release notes and it may be possible that I do not need to go back that far but we shall see. In any case it is great news to be able to have that option and I will download the files for posible later use.

Hi I am looking for keyboard controller for clevo x170 but seller which I found need photo of other side of that board to check something - if anyone have this board please attach the photo of the other side

Hi @strijrator Were you able to control the laptop’s fans with this fan control software?: https://github.com/djsubtronic/ClevoFanControl Yes I have use it, it works relatively fine. Had to apply and test it a couple of time to see it was working at the set curves. Also, I have found the app in the microsoft store that comes with the control center to control the laptop’s rgb, but I don’t know if it works without the control. I didnt know AppStore had a Control Center for RGB. Then I should try and test it. Thank you for the Information.

Definitely interested but at this stage it would prove difficult to set up logistically to avoid dumping the heat back in my room. One of the family members may be moving out and getting their own place next year, if we keep this place I can put basically all the heat generation and removal in that room and run some longer hoses and pumps. If we get a different place then I'll just look to getting a bigger bedroom. It would also give me some time to go through what I have for GPU's and start a passive search for more waterblocks to replace the stock heatsinks I have as I already know Im going to stay on water. The 7900 Xtx is purring at 3.1Ghz for now, I think I'll need to use the evc2se for 3.2Ghz. It's crashing at 3150 but I'm hoping that's just due to sudden spiking outside the power limit. Hopefully I can push 3500 for synthetic benching.

I did it but nothing has changed. It is really weird because even if I change resulution of the game for the lower one from full HD fps stays the same. It looks like the system can't go further with fps no matter what. I thought maybe I could change CPU for example i9-11900k. Now I have i9-10900k but in cinebench R20 it gets normal results around 5899 points on 4,6Ghz. Maybe i should compare results with someone else with the same laptop in specific game. Maybe this problem can be seen only in games. Maybe the power zone is not working properly, or maybe the system is simply old and cannot handle the same titles.

Hi @Teo Thanks for the info the Overclock settings and Fans control are mess up Were you able to control the laptop’s fans with this fan control software?: https://github.com/djsubtronic/ClevoFanControl Also, I have found the app in the microsoft store that comes with the control center to control the laptop’s rgb, but I don’t know if it works without the control center: https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nhg85rqczn0?hl=en-US&gl=US

Hi @strijrator Man I wish I knew another software to control the RGB on the laptop, ”control center” does not work well so I tried many other Clevo vendors software and yeah, the Overclock settings and Fans control are mess up, rgbopen does not work well for me so I kind of gave up, left my laptop without it. I am thinking to search again, see some other forums if anyone has manage to get a fix. I don’t know if is because this is Origin laptop mixed with XMG bios then the software cannot find the right device ID. Something does not match or their software is terrible? If I find anything I will post.

Hey @Teo Are you using the control center to control your laptop rgb? I do not have the control center installed so I cannot control my rgb through the rgb app that comes with the control center. I have tried using openrgb, but it was only able to control a few lights on the back of the laptop. I’m not totally sure how to set up openrgb, but I don’t think it will work anyway. Have you tried openrgb or other software to control the laptop rgb? Thanks in advance for your reply

It is sad to see that the wild variance in silicon quality isn't any better than it has been. The range allowed for sloppy crap from Intel, AMD and NVIDIA is really inexcusable. You no longer get what you pay for. You either get lucky or you get screwed. Nice response from Tony (Northwest Repair) to Jay's video. Jay's Video: Tony's Response:

Initial test with Asus Z890 AYW and "new" open box 265k: Installed newest BIOS (one on board was from May 2025) Booted to G4 9200 no problem Has no problems doing 8667 G4 Testing the new open box 265k and unlike the old one, it booted right up at stock settings at 8667 G2 unlike the first open box 265k that wouldn't boot past 8200 auto and even pushing voltages up to ~1.45v couldn't do more than 8400. For 8400 to pass, the old 265k required 1.41/1.40. It flat out wouldn't post at 8600 no matter what you threw at it. New Open Box 265k passed G2 8667 on auto settings no problem: So far just testing on the Z890 AYW, new 265k will boot up to 8800 G2 on auto but no post at 8933 so I will give it some juice later but I'm moving the new 265k over to the Strix next as the Z890 AYW for $95 has more than met my expectations so far. For 99% of users, that first 265k will be absolutely fine and run their 6000-8200 memory just fine. But for my criteria it is a dud.

I haven't seen a A02 version of the board yet. I've only ever seen A01. But I assume that board was returned because of that fact. I had a board from Amazon that was terrible. The Nitro Path Asus is using has made 4x boards viable now. I wish they would have done some magic like that for the 2x boards. $300 for a Z80 AYW and 265K, absolutely insane.

No problem. If the rumors is to follow then Nvidia will take the responsibility and help the gamers... So no need for next gen Intel iGPU If you can swallow the 8GB vram limit. NVIDIA reportedly shifts RTX 50 supply toward RTX 5060 and 5060 Ti 8GB in 2026

Okay I bought the eDP 3D cable and a Samsung LTN173HT02 3D 120Hz eDP screen. I paid like 250€ in total and yes I bought the custom heatsink. There are greater chances that the RTX 4080 will work in eDP with the backlight mod because I'll use pure-eDP screen without any "RGB PANEL/Interposer" on the way. RTX 4080 displayed and worked on Clevo P570WM3 (120hz 30 pins display) and Dell Precision 7720 (60Hz 30 pins display) and of course, the Clevo P775TM (1440p 120Hz 40 pins display). All are pure-eDP.

From what I'm seeing, I don't want Windows 11 and would like to keep running Win 10 despite the lack of future updates. I just hope they don't try to sneak some automatic upgrade to Win 11 by default.

Funny but sad story.... I haven't done any CPU swaps all week so last night with the open box Asus Z890 AYW and new open box 265k, I first tore down the Apex and put it away (I am OCD and completely tear down and clean up and box up a current MB before using another) and after moving over the SSD, RAM and CPU cooler mounting I looked around for my big jar of thermal pastes. We're talking giant sized KPx, Gelid Extreme, new tube of Cryofuse still sealed, Duronaut, Conductonaut and more. Can't find it anywhere. Tear the place apart from front to back looking EVERYWHERE and all I keep thinking is, "I know I left it around the work table." I even went outside and dug around in the trash that went out thinking maybe I or the wife threw it out accidentally. Resigned myself to using a brand new syringe of Frozen 2 from EVGA from 5-6 years ago I found on the shelf except it is hard as a rock and unusable so out it goes. Ended up having to use the ID-Cooling syringe from the included air cooler. Asked my wife about it a bit ago. She had no idea. Finally, I reach up in the cabinet and pull down an identical jar (it was a walnut jar) and text it to her saying this is what it looked like and after about 30 min she texted to let me know I had left it on the front bench/nook where I sometimes work and she thought it was trash and tossed it out last week....🤣 Doing research, it seems the new MX-7 is a real contender so I ordered a couple of syringes of that to start rebuilding my collection. I never even got a chance to test the cryofuze as it was still brand new and sealed for future use in the jar. --------------------------- True. I remember us hoping blocking your Elite would tame the HS temps, but if you look at numerous reviews, the HS temps and variance within so many models is all over the place but always trends high. Still wish Nvidia did not remove HS monitoring with the 5000 series.... The market for hand helds and iGPU only laptops for size, weight and battery life is becoming the dominant factor in mobile computing. Which is fine.... But on desktop? I don't give a crap about any of that.

Going to try 10 ltsc iot 2021, with "grey" keys, on 2 laptops. Will report how it goes.

Thanks for answer.How hot did your 8850h work without undervolt and other operations?I mean who's cooling is better,Zbook or Precision (comparable models) ?

My guess is: Precision3000tower->ProMaxT2->Pro Precision 9 T2 Precision5000tower->Not updated last year in ProMax->Pro Precision 9 T4 Precision7/9000tower->Not updated last year in ProMax->Pro Precision 9 T6

According to the Korean website FAQ: LG has divided the PRO and normal Gram lineup based on screen sizes: 14 and 15 inch is Gram and 16, 17 is Gram Pro. I have posted the exact wording on post no.4 of this thread. Let us see if they stick with that or later launch the cheaper older body in 16 and 17 inchers to increase sales.

Yup. You may only need iGPU for gaming (sarcasm). You even get MFG from Intel iGPU. And yep, you get an (NPU) cpu in the package. Intel "Nova Lake" Xe3P iGPUs Could be 25% More Powerful Than Xe3 Models

its much simpler to answer this question from the other direction, when was the last time Microsoft did something right? the answer to that is simple, since XP. everything since has been an ongoing lame attempt after another in converting PC's as in personal computers into public money grabbing kiosks.