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Good to know, thanks. I'll look for a 580M then. Anything will be better than a 460M lol

HD 7970M + RTX 3000 in heaven benchmark 4.0: 128FPS average at 1080p Ultra. No weird power limits. GTX 485M/680M + P5200 = 89FPS average Despite the P5200 being 10% faster than the RTX 3000... For example, HD 4600 + RTX 3000 = 142FPS average. I got the blue PCB V1.2 card but... It doesn't display anything... It's vbios 015.018 with 2MFR VRAM chips. I flashed a random 015.019 that didn't work for my MSI green card. The blue one displayed something but then artifacted and never displayed from that vbios version....

680m is the latest/fastest card that works with 3D on R4. 580m for R3. Installing newer cards breaks 3D due to some licensing thing

Never got the R4's to work with 3D. I'll figure it out at some point. Windows 10 seemed to be more promising than Windows 11, but the R3 is running in 3D currently on Windows 11 so I'll just leave it at that for now. I'll throw an 880M in it and see what it can do.

From i discovered, my motherboard uses LVDS interface from an eDP to LVDS onboard converter, the 3k edition dont have this converter and outputs directly an eDP signal, but both motherboards uses the same LVDS connector, only the signal interface changes. Now i am trying to get a schematic of the REV 3 of the motherboard

They've priced things beyond reason, to the point that even an idiot that has money to burn and is typically frivolous and lacks discretion with their wallet is starting to pause and recognize that things are simply not worth the asking price. What will likely happen next is that manufacturers will begin to complain about sales being off, b*tch because nobody is buying, whine and moan about low sales and revenue being down. But they won't be smart enough to figure out that nobody is buying because the prices are beyond stupid, not because they don't want the products but because they are not stupid enough to pay what they are asking.

Asus is raising prices across many of their laptops too. We had 9070xt's at $599.99 and even as low as $569.99 last August/Sept. Microcenter had the Challenger at that price point and the reaper back down to $599.99 but, well,......like the 5090 that pricing is long gone now. Some of these GPUs are hitting a hard reality with these price increases with every card being in stock everywhere. Just like DDR5, you can yell and scream about shortages, but customers are only going to pay so much. Problem is MSI is only offering the 800w and 1000w variants of their vBIOS and locking down the 2500w version for availability, so the best way to get the most out of your card is to run the 1000w and shunt mod. Imagine paying ~$5400 after tax for a 5090 that still requires a shunt mod to get it running fully open and unfettered?

Payback time because Windows is so sucky... Nothing with modern Windows is good. Expect gamers will follow same paths. And the sad part... US biggest state (the sunstate) won't be alloweed to use other os than Windoze forwards. That sucks. French government say it's ditching Windows for Linux

Payback time because Windows is so sucky... Nothing with modern Windows is good. And the sad part... US biggest state (the sunstate) won't be alloweed to use other os than Windoze forwards. Because some US states want know everything about you every day. From birth to grave. That sucks. French government say it's ditching Windows for Linux

Payback time because Windows is so sucky... Nothing with modern Windows is good. The sad part... US biggest state (the sunstate) won't be alloweed to use other os than Windoze forwards. Because the users need to verify age in same way as for sucky Windoze (Operating systems must ask for a user’s birth date upon setup). Isn't that stupid? Or is it to keep track of who you are? It still sucks! French government say it's ditching Windows for Linux

This is controlled by a mux that sets itself up at boot time. I believe what you are asking for is possible in systems that support NVIDIA's "Advanced Optimus" which can actually "dynamically" change which GPU is driving the laptop display, without a reboot. However, Dell hasn't implemented Advanced Optimus into these workstations.

Is it really too hard for Dell to auto switch back to iGPU output when running on battery? Maybe some of the more hardware experienced members here can add some knowlegde or explanation if and why that dGPU output mode cannot dynamically be adjusted at runtime based on running on battery or not? Having to reboot, change BIOS dGPU output mode and reboot again, if you just want to plug/unplug your laptop and run optimized for attached hardware or battery life, is not that user friendly 😉

Yup, I have mentioned this before. Thermal putty leaking under the core and memory chips ain't nice. For me.... I only use thermal putty on my old cards. BTW. Gigabyte use a lot round stickers with a red arrow to avoid RMA costs🙂

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I do think this GPU was more of a gimmick and scam than anything else. MSI deception and misrepresentation aside, it appears the damage that Northridge Fix was repairing was not a result of an inexperienced modding attempt, just reckless and inexperienced handling that ended in accidental user-induced damage that knocked resistors off. He may have been attempting to install an aftermarket water block to replace the AIO. Maybe it wasn't inexperienced handling and he dropped the GPU block onto the GPU by accident. Hard to know, but unfortunate whatever the cause. I looked to see if the finale video was released to see if it was fixed. Hasn't dropped yet.

My undervolt, stable in any situation, is: -55mV for the P-cores (limited to 5.2GHz) -70mV for the E-cores (4.6GHz) I decided to test the individual undervolt of each P-core and each of the 4 E-core clusters using XTU. I achieved a considerable gain in CPU efficiency with undervolting per core/cluster: P-core 0 = -75mV P-core 1 = -55mV P-core 2 = -55mV P-core 3 = -70mV P-core 4 = -75mV P-core 5 = -55mV P-core 6 = -75mV P-core 7 = -80mV E-cores 0 = -75mV E-cores 1 = -70mV E-cores 2 = -100mV E-cores 3 = -90mV Since XTU does not provide the V/F curve for this CPU, it is still necessary to compensate for the undervoltage at the first two points of the curve (800MHz and 2000MHz) in the BIOS to prevent instability in idle mode. Currently, on CBR23 it runs with all cores locked at 5.2/4.6GHz, without thermal throttling, scoring around 42500 and consuming ~195W.

Something weird has just happened with my X170KM-G notebook. As some of you may remember, the version I have is an Origin EON17-X (2021). It came with the Intel i9-11900K CPU. I wanted to use 128 GB of RAM. So, people suggested I flash the XMG BIOS. I have not done so simply because I'm chicken, and with 64GB my PC was working fine, and I need it for work, not just for fun. I had actually bought two kits of 64 GB (32 GB per stick) 3200 MT/s RAM, but I was only using one of the kits. The computer came with a pair of Corsair of 16 GB (8 GB per stick) 2600 MT/s RAM originally. Either of the 64 GB kits worked fine (I tested both sets on the computer), and I had been running it with one of them almost since I bought the laptop. At first, the RAM was in the slots below the board, but later I moved the pair of sticks to the slots underneath the keyboard. So far, so good. So, for kicks, I decided to try the original 16 GB RAM from Corsair in the slots below the board. Of course, nothing happened, the computer started, but it never finished booting. So, again for kicks I tried the other set of 64 GB RAM I had not been using. I expected the system would try training the RAM (that's what it did when I tried the 128 GB in all four slots some months ago), but it would then not do anything for a long while, and I would then give up, flash the XMG BIOS, and start again. But NO!. The PC booted with the 128 GB of RAM, all with the original 1.07.08TOPC BIOS from Origin. I ran the Windows memory test (not the deep test, just the regular test). It finished after a couple of hours, and didn't find any problems. Go figure. It is running at 2933 MT/s, as was expected for the 11th generation CPU I have, but IT IS RUNNING. So I find this VERY odd. Some months ago with the same four sticks of 32 GB RAM the machine wouldn't finish booting. And now it's running fine with the 128 GB of RAM, all without changing the original UEFI BIOS. I mean, I am elated, but I am also VERY puzzled as to why it worked this time, and not a few months back. OK, so I posted this as a FYI for others that may have the same version of the computer. I'm happy for now, and will post an update if I run into any problems, but I am typing on the X170KM-G PC right now, and it seems fine at the moment. The Origin BIOS doesn't have a problem with the 128 GB of RAM, so this is pretty cool, I didn't have to flash a different one. EDIT: Oh, I forgot: the RAM I have is cheap DDR4 RAM from Timetec. I have used their DDR3 RAM on another PC, and with that one and this one I have not had any problems. To me it seems to be fine budget RAM, in case anyone is curious. Of course, it has gone through the roof by now, but it was relatively inexpensive when I bought it a while back.

Because of stupid company policy...... MSI should minimum have offered 1200W vbios due dual connectors. But nope... They prefered play the safe game and destroy the value of the overpriced card... Asus is bad. A very bad company, but you can still use their XOC firmware for all SKU from same tier they make when it leaks out. But this won't last. Be you sure. Asus is in change and will make same bad moves and lock out XOC firmware for retail cards. Same as the stupid MSI. Real oc'ing as we know it, will soon only be for the elite, fab clockers and their very best friends. All us others will be locked out from proper firmware, vbios and fab XOC tools. Modders can’t flash the 2500W BIOS on a retail retail Lightning Z cards.

For Pascal, the P3000 was maxing at 71W in furmark. It's a 70W GPU. I didn't test with anything newer or powerful yet.

They should work fine right out of the box

Hello, This guide will explain how you have to actually modify a pascal/turing vbios with pascal mobile tdp tweaker in order to not get error 43 and black screen. latest vesion 1.21 : https://github.com/LaneLyng/MobilePascalTDPTweaker/releases/download/1.2.1.0/Mobile.Pascal.TDP.Tweaker.1.21.zip tools needed : any hex editor -> HxD for example I have embarked on a long vbios modding adventure. End goal : custom display tables in vbioses utility -> Extremely useful for MXM gpus -> looks quite possible thanks to released nvidia documentation but I must invest lots of time in research into this (my time allocation will vary greatly week to week...). Side goal : create a core + memory overclocking utility -> Possible as well, simpler than the display table Anyways, early on I noticed a flaw in the pascal bios tdp tweaker in the way it calculates checksums : it only corrects the checksum to the correct value if your vbios has no header ! If you use a vbios with header the app will calculate a wrong checksum and you will get error 43 or black screen as the security chip on the GPU will refuse to post. Step 1 : Check if your vbios has a header -> Open it in a Hex Editor and see if the starting string is "NVGI" -> if no header, you can mod the base directly in TDP tweaker with no extra steps. example of a vbios with a header : Step 2 : Remove the header and keep it in another file, select all the first lines of the vbios untill you see the string "UxxxK7400". In my case the actual vbios data starts at offset A00 -> Save the modified vbios as "vbios_mod_applicable" Step 3: Open this "vbios_mod_applicable" in mobile TDP tweaker, apply your edits and save the bios, now the checksum is correctly calculated automatically when you save this modified version. Step 4: Open the TDP moded vbios in a Hex Editor and reinsert the header at the very beginning of the vbios. Make sure the file size matches between the OG vbios and the TDP modded one. Step 5: Flash the modded vbios with an external programmer -> nvlashK and OMGflash will not work. You need to have a flasher handy anyway if you are attempting a vbios flash that risks bricking your card. Step 6: Enjoy higher TDP/other changes you applied

Interesting, might have to try this with my WX4150 instead of M2000M for RTX 5000 in slave slot. Pascal and older no longer receive drivers so my RTX 5000 uses a older driver now. Also I wonder if this can be a way to solve the dx12 issue in Optimus mode with intel hd 3000. In SG mode with hd3000 al dx12 gpus only work up to dx11 for some reason. So do you still run into the power limit issue?

I miss EVGA quite a bit at times like these. Still have my EVGA Nu Audio Pro 7.1, 1600w T2 still rocking hard and hoping EVGA might be able to provide me with a replacement when warranty nears so I can extend it's life, and my EVGA Z690 Dark KingPin which I'll just keep.

Hello. I've got news. I managed to get the AMD + NVIDIA combo to permanently work. Everything renders from the NVIDIA. DX9,10,11,12 and even OpenGL. How to do that: (WIP) Use a GCN 1.0 card such as the HD 7970M (Blue PCB, V1.2 from P15EL) for the Clevo X7200 Sadly I have the green version from MSI and I lost internal audio and warm boot. (Can't use the early vbios to fix that so I bought a V1.2 P15EL card, I'll receive it later). Use DDU software and remove any existing video drivers. Install both AMD (latest GCN1.0) and NVIDIA drivers. The order doesn't matter. After installing, go to regedit and create a DWORD in the AMD's driver folder to EnableMsHybrid 1 and for NVIDIA's driver folder to EnableMsHybrid 0. Then go to the UserGpuPreferences and add a new string called "DirectXUserGlobalSettings" to set the directX renderer to the NVIDIA GPUID. Value: SwapEffectUpgradeEnable=1;HighPerfAdapter=GPUID; REBOOT THE LAPTOP. Then go back to the registry and delete OpenGLDriverNameWow and OpenGLDriverName from the AMD's folder. Reboot again. Create OpenGLDriverNameWow and OpenGLDriverName in the AMD's folder but this time we'll swap the value with the NVIDIA's ones. Now you have both OpenGL and DX working from the Nvidia as slave! I can finally use the latest NVIDIA drivers because with a Kepler 1 GPU as the master, I was limited with the drivers and I couldn't use an RTX card in the slave. With AMD I can now! On Heaven benchmark 4.0 with AMD + GTX 970M, I gained 7FPS compared to the Nvidia K3000M/GTX 680M + 970M combo I had. 56FPS vs 63FPS, same settings, same resolutions, same CPU, same RAM, same operating system.