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^ The mainstream tech journalism quality has fallen of a cliff, LG Gram Pro will have both intel and AMD chips, they are already on sale in Korea: https://www.lge.co.kr/category/notebook There are both OLED and normal Anti-Glare LCD options: https://www.lge.co.kr/notebook/16z95u-gs5wk. I love white laptops, my current Gram 16 is white and the backlit is turned off as there is enough light from screen to light up the white keyboard. Infact starting the backlit messes up the visibility of keys.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Exactly what gamers need when nvidia struggle to gobble up enough vram. And china... They will get exactly what they want. And in the quantities they need. "The more you buy, the more you save". RTX 5090 32GB : 28,999 CNY (about $4,156). RTX 5090D 32GB : 26,999 CNY (about $3,869) RTX 5090D V2 24GB : 23,999 CNY (about $3,439) GeForce RTX 5090, 5080, 5070 Ti and even 5060 Ti are now sold in blower-style designs for AI farms And if the xx90 series is too expensive. You can get 16GB cards for your AI farms. RTX 5080 16GB : 8,988 CNY (about $1,288) RTX 5070 Ti 16GB : 7,699 CNY (about $1,103) RTX 5060 Ti 16GB : 3,999 CNY (about $573) No problem get cards if you pay enough. Also MSI want their share of the cake. Jazzed up $2000 cards with fancy coolers and RGB turn into +$4000 purchases finally get meaning. Greed have no limits. MSI GeForce RTX 5090 LIGHTNING has three variants, LIGHTNING X model also revealed -
Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
Annihilator replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
ordered a 4930MX, 20 bucks cheaper then the 4940MX(or the 4980HQ) n the OC results for both r the same, so no need to waste money on that 😄 n found another 2x 4GB 1866 mem in a old 2570P here, so could go for 24GB... but will short the battery life, the reson i only will install the 1TB mPCIe SATA SSD, less power using stuff in the system as possible... now will think about to optimize the heatsinks... sadly is not from the bottom like HP where u can use the bottom plate as huuuuuge heatsink 😄 -
LG appears to be adding more AMD versions. There's another press report here which seems better than many of the others and states that the "gram Books" have AMD CPUs. There are noticeable reflections on the displays of some notebooks on the photos in that report, more than I would expect for an anti-glare panel. I wonder who likes white or silver notebooks? They don't work well with backlit keyboards. The bronze version, however, looks nice.
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
AaronD replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Every once in a while, I use mine for live FHD video. (cameras, local sources, etc., with production and encoding all in the moment and all "in the box") That tends to eat RAM. And CPU cycles, even if it does offload the encoding part to the GPU. It's not the sort of thing that can wait either: each frame *must* finish before the next one starts. But this 10-year-old design with mostly original parts (all except storage, GPU, and OS) does keep up with it! 32GB and an i7-4940MX. -
The new Aerominum material which is Aluminium-Magnesium6 alloy is much more sturdy while maintaining the same weight, highly scratch resistant and looks much better too. Only the Pro version has been announced and that is for a reason, LG has divided the PRO and normal Gram lineup based on screen sizes: 14 and 15 inch is Gram and 16, 17 is Gram Pro. From LG Korea website FAQ: I'm curious about the criteria for dividing the Gram Pro, Gram, and Gram Book products.내용 닫기 Gram laptops are available in three models: the Gram Pro, Gram, and Gram Book, tailored to your specific usage environment and needs. The Gram Pro boasts a large 16- and 17-inch screen and a mega dual cooling fan, enhancing performance and cooling while maintaining a slim design. The Gram, with its compact 14- and 15-inch screen and single-fan design, is a portable laptop that's easy to carry around. The Gram Book, a rebranded version of the existing Ultra PC, is a reasonably priced, everyday laptop.
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CES is over, and look at what actually showed up. One low-tier new Intel CPU. One mildly boosted AMD SKU. No new GPUs. No real platform shifts. No meaningful architectural progress. For an industry supposedly in the middle of the biggest computing revolution in decades, this was a staggeringly thin showing. If this were a classroom, you would not call it cutting edge. You would call it remedial at best. Lots of repetition, very little advancement, and an uncomfortable sense that everyone is stalling for time. That is not because innovation suddenly got harder. It is because the market is locked into monetizing what already exists. When margins come from scarcity, price control, and segmentation, there is no urgency to move fast. So instead of bold platforms, we get SKU shuffling. Instead of new architectures, we get minor frequency bumps. Instead of GPUs, we get silence. This is what an industry looks like when it is more focused on managing demand than pushing capability. What makes this year stand out from previous is not that the products were underwhelming. It is that there was no clear sense of direction. Even going back to the 1980s and early 1990s, CES consistently showed forward motion. The hardware was primitive, but the trajectory was visible. New buses, new form factors, new categories, and clear signals about where platforms were heading next. This year did not feel like that. This felt like a strategic pause. An industry more focused on managing inventory, pricing, and segmentation than on moving the platform forward. When margins are being extracted from scarcity and control, there is little incentive to accelerate change. So instead of architectural shifts, we get SKU reshuffles. Instead of new GPUs, we get silence. Instead of platform evolution, we get minor bumps that preserve the status quo. That is not how CES has historically behaved, even in slower decades. There may have been weaker products in the past, but there has rarely been a show with so little visible intent to move computing forward. And that ties directly back to everything above. When markets are optimized for monetization over progress, innovation slows. Not because it is impossible, but because standing still has become more profitable than moving ahead.
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After seeing how quickly RAM prices doubled even in the used market, I think the price jump is simply monopolistic gouging. It was going on during covid too and I think companies perfected manipulating how much they can extract from customers so they keep doing these sort of things because people just complain and buy anyways. I'd love to see resources to be found outside of one country who's got a 2050 world domination plan and is 'extending' their border using man made islands... Same company's 'Gram competitor' will probalby be hot garbage after it has a reputation for being 'good'. The bait and switch game is always strong with them...
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Precision M6700 owner's thread
JadeRover replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
HDMi always uses dGPU, eDP screen or LVDS screen. RGB-MB (Dreamcolor) screen has a direct connection to dGPU if you can get it to work, so this screen is also full performance. eDP 3D lcd cable is the most versatile one as it can connect a 40 pin eDP screen to modern GPUs,+ there is no display port demux between MXM gpu and eDP connector on the motherboard : Meaning that the eDP version is theoretically limited to the one on the MXM side, meaning 4K120hz+ lcd upgrades are possible with this cable. -
Hi @JuliusCesare I see you have tested all memories. That behavior is really stranger, does not pass the POST🤔, I heard that whenever you make any hardware changes you should also hard reset the BIOS (Nvram). Try one memory at the time and the reset NVRAM or BIOS and see if works. I think there is also a sequence when installing memories, should be 1 & 3 (2x memories) and 2&4 (if all memories are installed) I guess that’s the order. Hard reset or NVRAM Reset - Yes that’s basically it, taking out all the battery, RTC battery and ac adapter for few seconds or minutes but it is better if you press the power button while all the battery and AC Power adapter is unplugged it will ensure that all that energy it was drain out, that will reset for sure the nvram. I don’t know any other way. I hope it helps.
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2017 Alienware R4 TPM 2.0 with bios update?
FrancoTecno replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware 17 and M17x
what CPU have that laptop? firmware TPM depends on chipset and ME implementation, but if the laptop is a 8th gen intel cpu one have the tpm. 7th and 6th as well, but depends on bios support and ME updated sometimes depending on the OEM -
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/7-zip/submissions/5956670 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/y-cruncher_-_pi-2.5b/submissions/5956665 -
Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
Annihilator replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
and where is the problem? 16GB is more then enough for everything except big photoshop / video files, n for this the supported CPUs r way to slow atm(except i like to wait for hours 😄 ) - Yesterday
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First ad: The new colours/finishes hanging on the wall behind LG rep at CES, timestamped at 16:19
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
panda_zzz replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Don't forget that with this processor, you will be limited to 2 RAM slots and a maximum of 16 gigabytes. -
I cleaned up my library recently, I threw away some 15 year old books about peak oil. The debate about limited resources was always popular, even more popular at our parents time, my father was talking about peak oil 40 years back. Recently some huge lithium deposits were discovered in Germany of all places.... I am more doubtful if LG Grams will still be in the market in 2030, they do not seem to innovate much anymore, there is a new Chinese company which launched a Gram competitor, albeit with 2024 processors: https://www.geekom.de/geekbook-x16-pro-laptop-16-zoll/
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I checked the LG site in US and they have already increased their prices by 20-30%. But on Amazon.com (where I bought mine) the price stays the same for now.
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Risky proposition, it is not only the fan but also the heat pipes. With the Pro you have also 4 speakers (amazing sound) and VRR monitor and a bit brighter I think. On the other hand if you are happy with the 14in performance, you will be fine with the 17in also. Arrow Lake is the Intel miracle that nobody talks about, as I wrote above, everybody was talking about Lunar Lake
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No, my Arrow Lake gives at least 30-40% more battery life than my older 13th Gen Raptor Lake. They have gone with TSMC and 4nm if I am not mistaken instead of 10nm. The progress in heat and efficiency is impressive, I found back the coolness of my 2021 model that I missed. And of course performance is more than 50% faster. Intel did all the marketing with Lunar Lake which of course is even more efficient because of the RAM on the chip like Apple, but ArrowLake was a great improvement also. Simply they wanted to focus on the amazing battery life and probably they were ashamed to show that with similar architecture they managed such great improvements with ArrowLake just by not using the Intel foundries.
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For what it's worth I have the Alienware a11 bios version, can I simply get the unlocked A12 over? I can still see sg option in bios...but still need to change? Also can this be done without removing my installed 1070m? Also tried downloading Nvidia app but once installed it's just perma loading....and I looked inside my Nvidia folder on C driver (wanted to do the inf edit) but it was basically empty .. Also honestly happy to just start "fresh" on this laptop if there is a how to guide. I think I bought it with windows 7 back in the day but don't even know if I have any of the CDs or USbs or w/e anymore....
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The journalist of Engadget just parrots the old bull... of Grams being too flexible and not sturdy, since 2021 the flex has diminished significantly. The upgrades, apart from the processors and the aerominum marketing jargon look minimal. The 16in look exactly like my Pro, same case and port placement. And no huge gain in weight despite the aerominum story.
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Try disable and test again. Performance mode in ccc or entertainment. Bios setup default.
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About 6 years ago I upgraded my m18x r2 to a 3940xm and 1070m. Or rather I bought the parts and a lovely local tech guy helped install it. However I remember that he just couldn't get the graphics card to work. I think back then there was limited info available online. I've had a look and since then (3 or so years later) there seems to become more resources available such as thread below but now many of the links etc are dead / or for some reason content not available in my region Does anyone have an updated step by step? I think my bios is the A12 version since I can see the SG option but when I restart with it and go to display options / device manager I still don't see my graphics card Perhaps I just need to reinstall some drivers? Also for some reason my Nvidia control panel doesn't work think something about driver or windows incompatibility? I'm on W10 for reference can post pic later Also want to preface this that I'm not really massively techy expert but happy to give it a go. Alternatively anyone know where I can get a fair deal for a m18x r2 and m11x R2 in UK haha