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Iam set on getting the P5000 for my M6800, only picture i seen with new thermal pads is this one using AMD heatsink, which pads should i order for the nvidia heatsink? how tall should they be?

You kann use an external Keyboard to enter the bios. I think the SG to IGFX Trick was for wen you have the 40w TDP issue, i hat to do it evrye time i use my M17x r4 whit an 980m becouse it woud Switch frome Boost to idle will an Benchmark

Quick follow-up question: as I’m located in the UK, I'm curious about the global footprint of this issue. If you're able to share, even high-level geographic or continental data would be very insightful. I recognize Dell sources localized components regionally (such as keyboard layouts), so I'm trying to determine why replacement units across different regions are exhibiting this identical failure mode. Could you share the make/model of your dock I might look into trying to get one to see if it changes my errors. I am assuming you get the same error when you run the laptop outside the dock? In an ideal RMA/refurbishment pipeline, you would expect diagnostic workflows leveraging tools like: Time Domain Reflectometry (TDR): To pinpoint physical impedance discontinuities or structural trace faults along the PCB. PCIe Gen 5 Signal Integrity Validation: A high-bandwidth real-time oscilloscope paired with a PCIe interposer (e.g., Wild River Technology) to capture eye diagrams directly off the M.2 or GPU interconnects. Protocol Analysis: A PCIe protocol analyzer (Teledyne LeCroy, Ellisys) for TLP/DLLP transaction-level validation. Given the recurring nature of this fault domain across replacement parts, my hypothesis is that these deep signal integrity and structural tests aren't being executed in the refurb loop, leading to a recirculation of defective inventory that could otherwise be reworked at the board level. Alternatively—if these are factory-new components and systems—it points toward a fundamental design fragility or layout vulnerability across the platform. For anyone interested in running a PCIe lane margining baseline test to verify link stability, here are the details and methodology: https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/dell-pro-max-laptops/pro-max-16-plus-mb16250-pcie-lane-margining-baseline-results/6aaa303258cc775fd9775935 This overall behavior is reminiscent of the Xbox 360 'Red Ring' saga, where the convergence of early RoHS lead-free solder transitions, underfill thermal expansion stresses during factory burn-in, and aggressive thermal cycling caused systematic BGA interconnect degradation.

Thanks for the response I am starting to think this is a fault domain which a PCIe signal integrity issue somewhere between: The remaining fault domains are approximately: CPU PCIe Root Complex / Root Port hardware — including the host-side PCIe PHY/receiver. Motherboard PCIe channel — traces, connectors and other physical elements between the Root Port and endpoint. Power delivery affecting the PCIe subsystem. PCIe reference clock / clocking behaviour. Firmware/software-controlled PCIe behaviour — UEFI/BIOS, ACPI/platform power management, link-state management, link training/retraining and related platform configuration. Your full-unit replacement result is particularly interesting to me because Dell is currently discussing replacing my MB16250 with a Certified Refurbished unit. Was your original machine new or refurbished, and was the complete replacement Dell supplied new or refurbished? If refurbished, do you know anything about its previous repair history? One concern I have is what Dell's refurbishment validation actually tests at PCIe level. I have been using PCIe Lane Margining at the Receiver (LMR) under Linux as part of my investigation. My understanding is that this interface exists specifically to assess receiver timing/voltage margin rather than merely checking that a PCIe device enumerates, negotiates its expected link speed/width and passes ordinary functional tests. I don't know whether Dell performs LMR or equivalent PCIe electrical-margin validation as part of its refurbishment/QA process, so I'm not claiming that they don't. But if the validation is primarily functional, I wonder whether a machine with a marginal PCIe path could pass refurbishment testing and only show the problem intermittently in normal use. I've raised this investigation with Intel as well as Dell, including the WHEA/AER evidence and the Lane Margining results, and I've asked Intel engineering to help interpret the processor/platform side rather than simply treating WHEA-17 as an endpoint failure. I've also supplied Intel with the Intel CrashLog/PUNIT side of the investigation. We have structurally decoded records containing MTL/NS rev9 and ARL/CDS rev3 data, including reason values 0x24 and 0x09, but we don't have verified public definitions that turn those values and the remaining payload into a diagnosis. I've therefore asked Intel to interpret the complete CrashLog/PUNIT evidence using the appropriate platform definitions, and to assess whether anything there correlates with the PCIe receiver/AER behaviour. I also approached PCI-SIG about the Lane Margining/AER side. They wouldn't provide technical support directly because that support is a membership benefit, so Intel/Dell and the upstream tooling are currently the routes I'm pursuing. One additional wrinkle: while auditing the Linux pcilmr testing I found an issue in the retained source concerning restoration of the Link Control/ASPM bits after margining. I've raised that upstream rather than ignoring it, because it potentially affects interpretation of some experimental runs. It doesn't explain the spontaneous Windows WHEA history, which predates those tests, but it does mean I'm being careful to separate test-induced/retraining observations from ordinary-use failures. That's partly why your replacement result interests me so much. If your replacement was refurbished and subsequently reproduced the same class of behaviour, I'd really like to understand what Dell actually validates on these machines before they go back into circulation—particularly whether anything equivalent to PCIe receiver-margin testing is performed. I did have the USB4 come up even though I'm not using a dock. The field engineer who was asked to exchange the port refused to as it had one system board change already. I am wondering if there is a wider manufacturer defect like the xbox360 red ring one. Have you ever run Lane Margining at the Receiver on your 285HX machine, particularly the Thunderbolt/USB4 path that reports 8086:5786? If the topology exposes margining-capable host, endpoint or retimer receivers, comparing those results could be very useful.

I haven't heard anything about newer drivers other than mvolt+ not working with some driver versions.

Hey guys! I have recently gotten back An Alienware 15 r3 that I Gifted my cousin years ago. He's now upgraded and Gave it me back, The laptop devolved some issues with the age of the device So I need to order some parts for it. The battery Puffed up and damaged the keyboard, Palmrest and chassis cover. It would cost a bit to buy the parts to get it pristine again. It also has some dead Blue LEDS on the Alienware lid logo and "alienware" on the front bezel. I have always wanted to convert one of these into an 17 R4 so I am tempted to at least research and attempt it. Has anyone tried this before and had any problems? Or is it just a straight drop in with the motherboard? As I would just buy the parts to convert it. The specs of the 15 r3: I7 7700HQ 32GB DDR3 2133Mhz GTX 1070M 8GB 120Hz TN Display I am choosing to do this to save another alienware from landfill. I use a x15 R1 as my main laptop. So anyone with any Guidance Or experience Please let me know! Thanks for reading!

Guys, I remember someone here posting that the new 6xx drivers are not good. Can someone catch me up on why? I'm on 596.xx on both desktop & laptops. I finally got SLI working on 596.xx drivers using the same old patch for 446.xx drivers. SO now I am aiming for 616.xx drivers.

Hi everyone. This is an old topic, but I still have both of my M18x R2s, and I’ve run out of working keyboards...) None of them have fully functional keys anymore—except for one where the 'N' and '-' keys still work. But I need the F2 key. Does anyone have any ideas or experience on how to enter the BIOS with a completely non-functional keyboard? I have full UEFI enabled (no CSM). I recall that with UEFI with CSM support—back when the big alien logo appeared at startup—I could press a key on an external keyboard to enter the BIOS, but now I'm on full UEFI. I just need to get in once. By the way, I recently installed a Quadro RTX 5000 for a good price—I was thinking of posting about it in a separate thread, but I can mention here that it draws a maximum of 85–90 watts. I seem to remember there’s a way to switch from SG mode to iGFX and back to get full power. Are there any other options? Wasn't there a trick involving sleep mode? I can't seem to find or recall the details.

M5 Ultra vs a 9950X3D + 5090 kitted out PC: CPU: Bonkers, next level CPU performance. Absolutely trashes Intel and AMD at 150w with their 36 core model both single and multi. Single core: ~44% faster Multi core: ~80% faster All this while consuming 25% less power in a small, compact box that makes zero noise 99% of the time and even under load is a fraction of the noise a typical PC generates. You're going to need a Threadripper 9970x (32 core) to compete, but not beat, at this point on multi. To flat out beat Apple, you will need a 9980x. On both, they absolutely get destroyed for single core performance. On Single, Intel and AMD are going to have to bring some serious magic in their next gen CPUs or Apple will just continue to dominate and I don't think they're going to even get close to catch Apple in single threaded performance. Looking forward to the 52 core Intel Nova "Open all salvos!" Lake beast vs the M5 Ultra. Heck, even the 28 core might get close in multi. Blender Render = M5 Ultra is ~72% faster GPU: Time to come back to reality Apple vs Nvidia..... Optimized for Nvidia, 5090 pulls ahead showing Nvidia's strength in terms of raw power, vertical integration and software stacks. LLMs: If memory isn't an issue, 5090 is a beast but obviously 32GB can't stack up against 96GB or 256GB. Toss in an RTX 6000 (or two or three) and it's game over but then again you can score a fully kitted M5 Ultra with 96GB of memory and 1TB storage and max CPU/GPU config for $6799.99 for less than half the price of an RTX 6000. You can score a 256GB model for $10799 which is 2/3 the cost of a single RTX 6000 at this point. In the end, Apple's massively upgraded Neural Processors are no match for Nvidia's raw power but their unified memory architecture is where they have always shined. Expect the 512GB model (not available yet) to cost ~$17k as the 256GB model is currently $10,799.,99 and upgrading from 96GB to 256GB is a $4k up charge. So you end up with a 512GB M5 Ultra for what is quickly becoming the cost of a single RTX 6000. Video editing, M5 Ultra: DaVinci = tied Abobe Pro = M5 Ultra finished in less than half the time Gaming: Time for a brutal reality check. Even Metal optimized, 5090 just trashes the M5 Ultra and is over twice as fast. M5 Ultra looks to be right between 5070ti-5080 in gaming performance but looking at some of the results that are actually taking advantage of the 80 core GPU, there is some optimizations to be had but....yeah, the 5090 just drops the hammer on Apple....just like Nvidia dropped the hammer on AMD with the 5090. My final verdict? M5 CPU architecture is next level. Absolutely next level. GPU has really come along way even vs M4 and its strength lies in its unified memory bandwidth especially in these AI driven days. For my personal use, target LLMs for particular use cases the 5090's 32GB is working out just fine and this is where it absolutely shines. If you need more than 32GB, performance scarily drops off as expected and you need to start looking at the 5080 based 4500 card with 48GB or even 5500 (barf) up to a 6000 to match the 96GB config from Apple. 256GB config for $10,799 really makes a compelling config for many small AI shops, startups or individuals because it costs less than a single 6000 by almost $5k and you get over 2.5x the memory. I suspect the 512GB will also be a very compelling buy for those on a budget but needing 512GB of memory.

Answering your hardware-swap question - sibling model here (Pro Max 18 Plus, same 285HX CPU): - System board (motherboard): replaced. No change. - Discrete NVIDIA GPU module: physically replaced. No change. - Whole unit: I was given a different unit (fresh Windows, different RAM/disk/ panel). Same behaviour returned - and two units showed an identical WHEA-17 signature side by side. - BE200 Wi-Fi: not physically removed in my case, so I can't speak to that. One difference worth noting: my sustained AER doesn't come from Wi-Fi/NVMe/GPU at boot like yours - it's from the USB4/Thunderbolt host-router downstream port (PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_5786), i.e. my dock link. So for me the BE200 doesn't look central, though the common 285HX / ARL068 angle still fits. Net: board swap, GPU-module swap and a full-unit swap all failed to fix it, which points at the platform rather than a single removable part.

this is why i now have a junker dual core 8570W (only difference is no RAM slot 1&3 under keyboard from what i can see) in a half chassis for my heatsink work, all i need are CPU and GPU bolt points to align. i can prep all i need without killing anything (fingers crossed) plus i can mod the chassis for cooling and swap items across as proven. no spare 980m though (eek)

Hi, I’ve been trying to find a replacement for my PC for some time, but I’m having trouble finding the right laptop because every high-end model seems to have some kind of drawback. There are a few things that are particularly important to me: I want a display with low response times, as I mainly play fast-paced FPS games such as Apex Legends, Deadlock, CS, and Valorant. I want good thermals and, ideally, no CPU or GPU thermal throttling. It would also be preferable if the WASD area didn’t get excessively hot during gaming. I specifically want the Ryzen 9 9955HX3D, as it seems to be significantly faster in gaming than the Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX. The laptop should have at least an RTX 5080. I’ve already looked at several models: Lenovo Legion 7 Pro – On paper, this laptop looks great, but the CPU temperatures are honestly quite concerning. 100°C while gaming? And these weren’t even synthetic benchmarks such as Cinebench — it reached those temperatures while playing Cyberpunk 2077... ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 – This laptop initially looked very promising, but its display seems to suffer from some kind of strange flickering caused by a conflict between the backlight strobing and synchronization technology. You can see the effect in Linus’ video here: https://youtu.be/mpDanDwd7x0?t=168. Apparently, this can potentially cause headaches during longer gaming sessions. I also looked at laptops with external liquid cooling from Dream Machines and XMG. However, it seems that these models are available with displays that have relatively slow response times, making them less suitable for fast-paced games due to noticeable ghosting. Are there any other laptops currently on the market that I might have overlooked that could meet these requirements?

Thank you. Yeah, it does have a lot of headroom. The scores are lower but it is actually more fun due to the headroom. Here are the settings applied with mvolt+ Extreme. I still need to test with the 5090. If they can make the function survive NVIDIA driver updates this eliminates the need for hardware mods like EVC2 and shunt resistors.

Yeah, the 5080 really has the headroom too fully appreciate overclocking at what tops out at an extreme but "sane"ish type level vs the 5090 requiring a nuclear reactor. Extrapolating, that Steel Nomad is like scoring ~ 21k+ on a 5090... That Timespy score is bonkers both GPU, CPU and combined... I see you right behind Jwick on the bot in the 2 slot a few times, lots of top 5/10 finishes and #1 in TSE! Excellent work!

I’m investigating this further with the recurrent WHEA-Logger Event 17 / PCIe AER events on a Dell Pro Max 16 Plus MB16250 with Core Ultra 9 285HX. They occur during early Windows boot across multiple unrelated PCIe endpoints: Intel BE200 Wi-Fi, NVMe SSD and NVIDIA GPU. Raw WHEA/CPER records show the same AER signature: UncorrectableErrorStatus = 0x100000 = Unsupported Request CorrectableErrorStatus = 0xa000 = Advisory Non-Fatal + Header Log Overflow Captured TLP headers decode as PCIe Configuration Read Type 0 requests, apparently probing absent functions/BDFs during early PCI enumeration. Some requests occur only microseconds apart. Linux PCI enumeration source: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/pci/probe.c Linux PCIe AER documentation: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/PCI/pcieaer-howto.html Intel Arrow Lake Series 2 specification update / errata: https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/products/platforms/details/arrow-lake-s/core-ultra-200s-series-processors-specification-update/errata-details/ Relevant Intel erratum: ARL068 — PCIe Gen5 Link Exit from L1 Sub-state Low Power State. It specifically mentions short back-to-back PCIe configuration-space accesses as one trigger condition. Dell also has an official article stating that boot-time WHEA-Logger ID17 is “expected behavior as per Intel” on certain earlier Intel HX systems. Note that Dell’s listed affected systems are 12th-gen/HX platforms, not the MB16250/285HX, so it does not by itself prove this newer system is expected to behave the same way: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000216115/laptops-with-12th-gen-and-12th-gen-hx-intel-core-processors-may-display-warning-message-whea-loggerid17 WHEA-17 itself is quite generic, and I think the associated symptoms may be more significant than the event alone. In my case, I’ve seen intermittent freezing and occasional mouse slowdowns. Dell support has also told me that some users experience BSODs or system crashes. What I’m really looking for here is other people’s ideas, observations and possible avenues to investigate

Yeah, crazy. Essentially the functional equivalent of a 222% slider for power limit. Check the 3DMark links showing the GPU clock and average GPU clock values. (They are almost the same value versus the scenario where average clock is typically considerably lower.) It holds clocks much better. Voltage and power limits were tweaked significantly. mVolt+ - Tuning Overview Profile: OC2 01:39 Driver: 616.64 VBIOS: 98.03.3b.40.27 CLOCKS Core: +350 MHz Memory: +3000 MHz XBAR: +350 MHz SYS: +350 MHz Video: +250 MHz POWER Power limit: 800 W (222%) NVVDD OCP: 5001 A MSVDD OCP: 120 A Voltage Boost: 100% RAIL OFFSETS NVVDD VMIN: 0 mV NVVDD REL: +140 mV NVVDD ALT/OP: +140 mV NVVDD OV: 0 mV MSVDD VMIN: 0 mV MSVDD REL: +60 mV MSVDD ALT/OP: +60 mV MSVDD OV: 0 mV VOLTAGE NVVDD limits: 800–1200 mV MSVDD limits: 800–1120 mV Core voltage offset: +5 mV XBAR voltage offset: +5 mV SYS voltage offset: +5 mV Video voltage offset: +5 mV OTHER NVVDD/MSVDD ratio: 0.90 Clock range: 0–3600 MHz Boost Lock: Off Fan: Auto V/F curve: 0 / 127 points

Holy crap..... 825w through a 5080?! Sheesh.

I've applied an 800W power limit to the 5080 using mvolt+ Extreme. Works great. WireView Pro 2 showed a max of 825W coursing through its veins. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6074856 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164088570 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/6074814 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164083593 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/6074816 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164083791 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/6074821 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164084556 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/6074828 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164084873 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/6074861 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164089114 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/6074851 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/17000869

From your description I'm gonna guess your a windows user? Event viewer is your friend.... a useful tool. https://www.pcmag.com/news/how-to-troubleshoot-problems-in-windows-via-event-viewer

Here's the v100 https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/209889/nvidia-teslav100-32768-180223 P100 https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/283159/283159 The 5005mhz issue was because I was looking at my Titan X bios because I named it similarly It's showing 0mhz for p100 mem I still can't edit core clocks on either p100 or v100 though

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Hello, Sorry I am a bit busy with stuff that is not CPR lately. Can you send me your vbios ? I can have a look in the program + with HEX editor to understand what is going on.

So I was experimenting with vbios on tech power up and my boss has some 32gb V100's so I loaded up their bios and I noticed the core clocks as seen by CPR are half while the memory clock is correct On the 16gb P100 core clocks are correct but memclock is represented as 5005Mhz while it's supposed to be 715, 715x7=5005 I won't have my p100 until monday I hope this helps

Longevity and reliability of P775TM1 are second to none for laptops. I doubt that any current laptops do match that because of bad thermals and motherboard design. Besides, buying a new laptop with 32+GB DDR5 would be pretty expensive, so upgrading the old one with 64+GB DDR4 does make sense financially.

mvolt+ Extreme works nice. The highest power limit I could find for a 5080 vBIOS was 450W. I used it to unlock the power limit. Set it to 600W and applied my previous mvolt+ overclock profile and the WireView Pro 2 showed it pegged above 600W throughout the entire Steel Nomad run and instantly beat my previous best score by about 180 3DMarks with no change in core or memory clocks. It was definitely crippled by power limit. Now I will have to play around with higher power limits above 600W, additional voltage, XBAR, Sys and core clocks to see what it can do with no power limits crushing the GPU's gonads. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6074610 https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/15702068/sn/16244399#