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I learned a lot about Ryzen by chasing overclocked benchmark scores. It is goofy in some ways compared to Intel. The same in other ways. Principles are the same. Clock is king and clocks need more voltage. Ryzen starts losing performance when it is voltage starved. It clock stretches but performs worse, maybe starts dropping IPC. TM5 (as well as Karhu and perhaps other tests) is also going to error out if your Curve Optimizer undervolt is too aggressive. Don't automatically blame it on the memory or a weak IMC. I'd recommend setting Curve Optimizer offsets to 0 when checking for memory stability, if all tests pass and you set your previous Curve Optimizer offsets and start having errors, you know immediately what needs to be addressed and it's not the memory overclock. You can use the SMU debug tool to test PBO CO offsets with Core Cycler in Windows, then apply the settings in the BIOS once you find the max stable negative offset. Best to do it per core. There can be a gigantic difference between cores. Perhaps contrary to popular belief, a core that can handle a deeper negative offset is not necessarily a good one. When I look at per core SP ratings and V/F curves, the better cores are already needing less voltage and the crappier cores need a deeper negative offset to match the voltage needs of the better cores.

Really depends on what level of stability you're seeking, but I usually start with a basic 90 min run of TM5 to kick off anything as that usually covers all my bases for basic D2D use. If I find memory errors or issues gaming pop up, almost like clockwork TM5 will flag errors. Just for first tier testing, I toss in WMD and even memtest and OCCT. If I can pass all four, for me personal needs that is usually good enough. I'm not going to subject my laptops to Karhu or similar but if you want to make things spicy you can give that a whirl.

No, this is my Zephyrus G14, but the security principles are surprisingly similar. And during my first attempts to unlock the hidden menu, I was only ever able to access different parts of the hidden menu, exactly as shown in your photos.

Is this on Area-51m? The main issue is, I don't know how to bypass boot guard. It requires signed bios to boot , even if you spi flash it doesn't boot.

Hello. I bought a Clevo X170SM-G with 10900KF and RTX 3080 16GB with 32GB of RAM. It has the watercooling 2in1 heatsink. Laptop wasn't posting so I reflashed it with a 1.07.04 stock clean ME bios. Still no boot. So I had to remove the RAM from slot 2/4 and I only used one slot and it worked. The laptop only posts with single channel configuration and it runs at 2133MHz. The previous owner told me that the laptop was working perfectly fine and he didn't use it for a week and the laptop wouldn't post. I cleaned the CPU pads. There were some stains but this didn't help. Is the motherboard dead? Or is the CPU DDR controller dead? All the memory slots are working in single channel.

So far I have only tested with OCCT's 1 hour combined load test but I know that errors can pop up beyond that length. That also makes me wonder about the 7945HX3D as I was only testing 1 hour on it, and on top of that it was being tested in the winter months where the ambient temperatures on average were 5-10F cooler. Is there a guide for a better combined load test setup that the community uses or would paying for OCCT be the best option to test beyond 1 hour? I also spent a bit of time testing a tuned 5600 profile with VDDIO/VDD/VDDQ at 1.3v. No crashes or errors but memory temps do creep up over 95C in combined loads so I will probably need some kind of memory cooling. One nice thing about the MSI AMD bios is that it has a Save/Load overclocking profile function that works, so its actually easy to switch around configurations or restore them after a bios reset. Yes it was a full assembly (A-cover, camera, camera cable, display, eDP cable, L+R hinge, bezel/B-cover). Talking with another friend who replaced just a display panel, he noted that MSI was using something that looked like glue so removing an existing panel from the A-cover would most likely crack the panel in the process. Not a great thing if this is being done as an upgrade swap instead of replacing an already damaged panel. I'd like to find another full display assembly like this so I can try out a 1200p panel as well.

Could you tell me how you managed to access these menus? Maybe I can study the method as well and see if I can help with this.

I’m honestly really happy and grateful to see such talented and knowledgeable people on this forum. A big thank you to ssj92, janepa, and all the other members who generously share their knowledge, skills, and expertise with the community. It’s truly appreciated.

I'm sorry, but that message offering help was primarily intended for the user ssj92 as a small gesture of support after hundreds and hundreds of wasted hours and failed attempts. The kind of work that most of us can't even begin to imagine how difficult and invaluable it is. He knows exactly what I mean. Once again, I'm really sorry. It's my bad.

With modded Bios - Before put the 1070 mxm gpu You must to choose an SG mode into bios then save the settings then turn off the laptop then put the 1070 gpu into the master mxm slot

I saw this and it made me really happy.👍🏼

User ssj92 is also working on the same project and has made some progress. If you are familiar with this BIOS, perhaps you could work together with ssj92 and finally unlock this damn BIOS. Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with Aptio or its editing environment. However, if you need any files from my side, I can provide them and help however I can.

So, are you saying you can unlock the Area-51m BIOS? As far as I know, there’s no source or evidence so far that anyone has successfully done this. One of the guys on this very forum is currently working on it. If this BIOS can actually be unlocked, that would be really impressive.

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I don’t know which generation of Aptio my laptop’s BIOS is.

How can I find out which version of Aptio it is?

Hi, if it's an AMI Aptio 5th gen, I can help you unlock all features completely.

This laptop was produced with several different motherboards with different part numbers. Which motherboard version do you have?

I already did 1.5.0 because it's what I have. In my opinion 1.5.0 is the best "old bios" that maintains most compatibility. we probably want the newer bios' that you guys run.

You misspelled "God Mode".... 😂 Does 1.25 make it completely stable or is 6000 still problematic? Really looks like that 9955HX3D wants to settle in at 5800. Not the end of the world, but meh.....I know the 7945HX3D had no problems with 6000 in a similar dual die setup. It was a straight full assembly swap and not a panel only swap? Makes it much easier for warranty claims in the future to swap back easily but that is a strange bug too. I like the eventual @Mr. Fox drift to a new primary platform. Whenever you have two chips of the same ilk, that is the dominant platform. 270k has finally supplanted AM5, so it now rules the HenHouse. 🙂 Eventually AM6 and/or Nova will slowly move in and either AM6 will replace thje Epyc and/or Nova will replace the lesser 270k..... Yeah, I thank the stars daily for pulling the trigger when I did on various items especially memory. The upper tier stuff is disappearing completely or becoming bonkers expensive. I see you're well enough to lift those abominations into the box for a photo shoot @Papusan 🤣

Within the next few days, I’ll send you several BIOS dumps from different versions. I’m just a little worried about downgrading to some of the really old versions, because I’m running a 9900KS on the laptop and my motherboard is the 2019 revision. There’s a chance that BIOS versions older than 1.5.0 might not be compatible with my setup.

I can access the hidden menus. My goal is to make a universal bootable USB for Area-51m R1/R2. It will first detect the system, then detect bios version, detect variables and show the bios with all meus unlocked. so when you change something, it will properly affect your bios version. i already tested a bit on 1.5.0 but need a few more versions to make 1.5.0 perfect.

If you manage to pull this off, you’ll be an absolute legend! Getting a truly unlocked BIOS and finally removing all those artificial limitations is the ultimate dream. I’m seriously hoping you can make it happen!

I have the full dump of BIOS version 1.7.3. I can send it to you in a few days because I’m currently traveling and don’t have access to my laptop right now. How far have you gotten so far? Have you unlocked the BIOS?

yes