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Anyone with one for sale? Hopefully, Rev D with vbios chip installed? I'm trying to upgrade a M6800.

Haha, yeah you don't want to be responsible if something goes wrong 🙂 You could use feature manager though as it is basically a heavily slimmed down and lean version of MSI center and it is therefore much nicer to use than MSI center. https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/1dtkjij/in_case_you_want_to_get_rid_of_msi_center/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&embed_host_url=https://notebooktalk.net/index.php

Yep. But you spent a few hundred on repairs, that's not even a car payment for a month. We have two older vehicles now that we are keeping on the road until they die, more than likely from rust. We just purchased a 2017 mazda 5 (jdm goodness coming this spring), and our 2016 F150 FX4 super crew. 205,000km on it and drives and looks new. that has 300,000 left in it for sure before the chassis starts to go I figure. A few hundred a year in maintenance is better than the 1000 dollar a month for a truck payement here. Keep old iron working.

I will probably just deal with the fan noise instead of installing something that might bork his system. Thanks for the information however. If it were my system, I would do it in a heartbeat.

There is still some small hope that people can get 5070Ti at more decent prices. If you are lucky and take your time. You are crazy if you rather go for $1100-1800 USD 5080 cards that in reality should be the new xx70 Ti tier in the 5000 series. $600 is an quite decent price. Or better say the more correct price. The old 14th gen Intel is still a monster. And Asus want to be one of the first offering price hikes for the New year. Their products is all too cheap. Of course they prefer to be first. Asus announces product price hikes starting January 5 https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/asus-announces-product-price-hikes-starting-from-january-5-and-ai-is-to-blame-ram-and-storage-cost-pressure-cited-as-main-trigger-for-pricing-increases

The 12V-2x6 / 12VHPWR petite arson cable is just a ludicrous scam. NVIDIA (and Jensen) need to burn for introducing this stupid POS. I'd love to see NVIDIA financially obliterated by the largest-ever award of damages in a class action lawsuit. A just award would be that everyone that can provide proof of original purchase of a brand new GPU made with this connector gets a full refund of their original invoice amount, non-transferable unconditional lifetime warranty on the GPU connector and PSU and keeps the GPU. The tech space is just overrun with garbage now. Bad enough that almost everything new is trash, but it adds insult to injury with the trash is overpriced by double or triple what a person of average intelligence would be willing to pay for it. Speaking of trash, I found one less excuse for running Windoze. One of the things that has always been an impediment is needing to use Micro$lop Office for work. Linux doesn't have any 100% fully-compatible and truly acceptable substitute. Well, no longer an issue. I even got PowerBI to run on Linux now.

Thank you! As I said, I'm currently having the latest MXM board assembled and will then test it. I hope the DisplayPort channels work with all resolutions and frequencies! Then you can operate the internal display of the P870xx with all resolutions. But an external display is also still implemented. Unfortunately, the other DisplayPort channels could no longer be integrated for geometric reasons, and the maximum number of layers allowed for a PCB with a thickness of 1.2 mm is only 12 layers. No factory in the world can produce more layers. I had the idea for the whole project a few years ago. I thought the updateability of the P870xx and its wonderful features were cool! In my opinion, Clevo has created one of the best laptops with this model series!

Is there a method for unlocking voltage curve in MSI afterburner and is it related to CPU undervolting lockup? I'm currently on 7540 1.40 BIOS and RTX 5000 but all the settings get reverted back to stock after applying Also any downsides to running 7740 110w BIOS instead of 80w 7540 one?

Incredible work!!

Hello. Never and it works in SG with my M6700 using a HP ZBOOK G5 P5200 VBIOS. Also, someone got interested in the M18X R2 with i7 3840qm and no GPU because he'll upgrade to an RTX 3060 MXM

Hi there SuperMG! Are you selling the P5200M 16GB alone by any chance? I remembered it's a Rev D card you got from from triturbo. I'm trying to upgrade a M6800.

Hi @strijrator I never found a 100% solution for the random shutdowns and it was really annoying... We play every year with friends old games like CoD or CS. This year we tried to host the Server on my powerful X170KM-G. Every 15min random shutdown or a full hanging system. If you play with 8 people and the games crashed so often, its embarrassing. I also lost in the last years so much money and time by broken CAD project files caused by random shutdowns. I never had this with my mobile Dell Precision workstations in the past. Hopfully the Lenovo P14s is step into netter times 🙂 The vendor of my system was http://www.clevo-computer.de/ I paid 6000 EUR for it...

That’s insane! I’m shocked by the MSI cable burning up on people, you won’t see me running one now with a shunted 1200w 5090fe though. But, I did run a MSI 1KW BABY PSU with yellow tip cable on my 4090 Gaming OC which had the 666w bios on it. Never had a single issue. I didn’t undervolt that card much, I just blasted it to the max 2,940Mhz daily that it would run in 4K. No issues with the yellow tip MSI 2x6-12v cable while I had it. I have been playing the new Mafia Old Country game lately with my 5090, I was playing for hours, decided to check MSI AB graph after closing the game out. Little did I know it’s chugging along at 900 watts during cut scenes. Little dinky Lian Li 2x6-12v cable is doing the job well though. They are plugged in completely. Power usage goes crazy when I’m not looking though, I don’t really keep an eye on it like that anymore. Definitely shocked to see a 9070xt burn like that, when my 4090 was excellent. These cables are nuts. I don’t understand it.

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Long live the QC. Matrix up in review on Tweaktown. The gap of the 12V-2*6 connector cover is now on the opposite side vs what OP in reddit see. Closer to the 4th fan this time. Fantastic. https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/11302/asus-rog-matrix-platinum-geforce-rtx-5090-unbeatable-performance-stunning-design/index.html The unlucky one. From the review unit from Tweaktown And what is a day without new nice pictures?😀 People think weaker low powered Radeon cards is safe, LOL Another Sapphire RX 9070 XT Nitro+ burns out again: blamed on the 12V-2×6 connector and the brand's Stealth design. Will they recall it from the market? Seems people have problem connecting the tiny trash. And more of the Yellow-tip fiasco from MSI. What could go wrong,LOL

Yeah this thing is completely locked down. The only thing it has working in its favor right now is, I repasted it with TG putty and Supercool LM, did the whole shebang all up. So temps are great (compared to stock temps) And it feels like the 14900HK might be a good sample, but I’m speculating here. But, you can’t undervolt it. So it’s always just blasting away with auto voltage while it shoots upwards of 5,850 boost browsing around windows lol. 😂 (And apparently these chips degrade? ) it’s some how completely reliable though, and mine has not degraded. But if it’s gonna happen it’ll be in this exact scenario. #1 Hot CPU? CHECK! #2 Auto voltage going wild? CHECK! You do get what you pay for with MSI, and I keep hearing about Lenovo being really good as well. If I could pick a single option, it would be to have the ability to set tREFI manually to 262k, would probably opt for that instead of CPU voltage control. That alone would drastically boost gaming performance. These laptop manufacturers need better engineers/design teams.

ThrottleStop with laptops is unfortunately or fortunately the way to go still. Luckily the DEV still provides updates and I also used it with my 13900HX to really unlock that beast. It sort of lets you bypass the cancer that is X-Load limits on gaming laptops. It also lets you have really fine control over power limits when you want them, which is ideal for tuning for each game/load scenario. Luckily some laptop OEMs provide some pretty great tuning, while others are pure trash. Lenovo actually provides a pretty great gaming laptop product, with really good tuning. Unfortunately they don't have fully unlocked BIOS, and the latest version apparently patched out the backdoor to get into the unlocked BIOS. So if I do consider a new laptop again in the future, it will have to be MSI again. They still provide their unlocked/hidden BIOS, the tuning is all recoverable within reason and their BIOS is more desktop like with it's menu options actually working and not bricking the machine.

Hey everyone. Man, throttle stop is amazing. Am I just learning how to use this tool, and what it’s actually for? What the heck is wrong with me lol. 😆 i have been over here dealing with some low GPU usage, and very weak CPU clocks, and poor 1% lows. Now I’m gaming and my 14900HX will nearly hold 5.2P/4.1E in most games FOREVER. After long duration, it’s still holding 4.9-5.1P, and eventually goes back to 5.2/4.1. I had reinstalled windows on my machine which was running very poorly. And speed step was kinda hindering its performance. I’m super impressed here with this 14900HX, never really liked it all that much until now I suppose.

5080 have never been a good value here home. Not sure why... But I think for people that wanted close to flagship GPU performance and can't really afford the xx90 tier cards, they buy it anyway (the overpriced 5080's). They should instead go for the cheapest 5070Ti they could find. xx80@16GB at these prices/even MSRP is awful. Would be easier to swallow the 5080 with 24GB vram at $1000. "4090 performance at $549!" is the most stupid I have heard from Nvidia. Even $1800 - 5080 scam from Asus ain't close with the measly 16GB vram buffer. Both nvidia and Asus failed hard with their prices for xx70Ti tier level cards that was meant to be the new and shiny xx80. And the xx80 tier card should also not have only half the cores vs xx90 cards. That's just dumb. Nvidia failed on the amount cores and vram for 5080. Period. I'm good with that. And if Nvidia release 6080@24GB, the 5090 will keep an very good value even early/mid 2027. We may not see same great value as for 4090 but if the AI madness continue you get a nice offset for the 5090 if you want the 6090.

Hey @crossshot Sorry to hear that one of the ssd slots died and I hope you are able to sell your faulty x170km I am curious, though, from your previous messages on this thread about the random shutdown issues with this laptop. Were you able to fix the shutdown issues? I am using latest Origin bios and ec, and the only way to fix the random shutdowns seems to be to not install the clevo control center, likely due to the instability from the fan control app. Another user mentioned that disabling the overclocking feature in the bios will also help but I run an undervolt on my cpu, so I don’t want to lose the ability to undervolt. Which vendor is your x170km from? Maybe I could try a new bios but that also seems risky. I believe I have a stable system now that I have not installed the control center, but I really want to find a way to control the laptop’s fans since the default fan profile is horrible. Thanks in advance for your reply

After a long time with the X170KM-G, I was never really happy with the system. Unstable, unreliable, loud, big, heavy and compared to current systems, low power (power by watt). After one of the four M.2 slots died, I have now decided to sell the X170KM-G and bought a complete new and different system. The new system arrived in the last days: Lenovo P14s Gen 6 AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX Pro 370 AMD Radeon 890M (internal GPU) 64GB RAM 5600 MT/s 8TB M.2 WD SN850X SSD Thunderbold 4 Smart Dock Gen2 7500 Razer Core X V2 with - Sharkoon Rebel P30 Gold - Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB So i have gaming, CAD and 3D power with the powerful external GPU at home and max. mobility with the P14s and way longer battery life. First i will try to sell the X170KM-G as it is. If i don't get the i won't, will sell it in parts and will inform you. But it's only interessting for people inside the EU. I don't sell parts outside Europe.

Well, that's what I get for waiting a few days before ordering. I ordered my WV2 on 11/3. Looks like we both got pushed back, but myself ~3 weeks after yours. Well, that's a lot of data I'll get to soak in from you and @jaybee83 before mine arrives. 🙂 ---- Agreed on the GPU front. I think @Papusan noted several months ago (while I had my 5080FE before jettisoning it due to locked out vBIOS) the juice wasn't worth the squeeze vs the 5070ti in terms of cost MSRP vs MSRP and then obviously AIB models that completely went off the tracks especially for 5080s ($1800 for an Astral 5080?) and obviously 5090s (~$3800 for an Astral 5090 LC?). Then again, the way the market is going, next gen AMD is now rumored for mid 2027 (or later) and I suspect Nvidia will follow suit. I would not be surprised if we don't see 10k and 6k series cards from AMD and Nvidia till Fall of 2027 at this rate with the RAM market hopefully coming to its senses by fall 2026 enough for Nvidia to offer Super cards by Jan 2027. And we still have price hikes incoming. Along with scaled back production due to memory reallocation from Nvidia to more lucrative markets In other words, hug your 9070xt's and 5090's and hunker down..... Not the greatest 9070xt, but Microcenter has Asrock Challenger 9070xt in stock for $579.99 They also have several 5070ti models at $749.99 and one at $729.99 Bang for buck, that 9070xt can't be beat.... Even in RT only testing, the 9070xt trades blows with the 5070ti: 5080s are running off the rails with the lowest cost being $1300 at Microcenter.... Cheapest on the part picker is $1129.99.... For myself, I'd either scoop up a fantastically priced Challenger 9070xt for $550.99 after MC discount or pony up a bit more for the Zotac 5070ti for $693.49....

First batch. My last update was December 9 and their projection was January 21, 2026 delivery. I think the 5070 Ti is a better value (bang for buck) than a 5080. The 5080 is better but the price gap doesn't scale with performance well enough to make it worth paying more. The 4070 Ti is also a good GPU. I'd buy it if I were not unemployed. It would be perfect in a Phanteks MT X3 build.

Yep sad a bit but that gives a little window for @jaybee83 to give his full assessment of it and if it gets his stamp of approval. @Mr. Fox were you batch 1 or batch 2? Any updates on your ship date? --- Do you plan on keeping both or picking one or the other? Both are good GPUs and basically in the same class of performance depending on game/program you're running. For that brief window in August to early September, 5090s were available in pockets on some models for $1999.99 and others had come down for a brief spell too, but that party is over. Asus never really dropped the prices on their Astrals except the LC at MC for $3399.99 for a bit for members. Suprims did come down to near MSRP (but never quite got there) and Vanguards haven't available for months now in the US and I'm not sure why. Fallout76 Clan member wanted one to match his Godlike Z790 MSI build for the aestheticsbut they're nowhere to be found in the US for months on end. He "settled" for a Suprim. ------ I have a stack of parts I'm holding onto because pricing is just going to get worse in the market and waiting a month or so will net you more on the reseller end as FB dries up as parts hunter (present company included) continue to hunt and bleed it dry. With Nvidia cutting back on consumer level production and GPU prices expected to rise, that 4070 TI will definitely go up in value. You could put together a decent gaming PC with that 4070 Ti and get some good scratch for it.

That sucks, but I trust that TG is producing a good product. I know if I ever go down the path of securing a 5090, I would definitely be picking up a WireView. In other news, the 9070XT Red Devil arrived last week and the PRIME 5070 TI will come today. It doesn't escape my mind that I essentially spent nearly $1500 for two GPUs, when I could have put down another 500 for a 5090 at "MSRP". We all know they don't cost that, so I am fine for now. If anyone needs a 4070 TI (Gigabyte Windforce), let me know. I might just build a PC out of spare parts and sell it.