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Hi All, Another 8570W user here, Whilst not running Dreamcolor i have a Win10 build with K1000M (being upgraded to 980M) currently running .71Ver System bios. How difficult was win11 to get onto the machine as i recall TPM scuppers the build/install. Where did you find the Dreamcolour setup?

BINGO! 25H2 Cancer Edition... 100%. Installed LTSC IoT 24H2 and viola... all is well with the score. Fully modded and debloated. But, I still do not know why my effective clocks are lower than the core ratio set. Looking at similar submissions on HWBOT the core ratio and effective clocks were the same on other submissions. But, no throttling or temperature issues. Now I can delete the cancer Macrium image. Side note @electrosoft - no driver issues with 24H2. Smooth sailing. Not to shabby for a chintzy Lian Li 360MM AIO and soldered IHS... Nearly identical Cinebench R23 performance as bare die 9950X (only cooler than a delidded 9950X) with only 22 threads (16 baby girl Atom cores) versus 32 threads on the Ryzen 9. Now I need to order a Thermal Grizzly delid tool and heater and bare die block and get it on a custom loop and chiller to do things right. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/6041409

I bought both part numbers of dmc cards along with a antenna for 17 r1. my m14x r2 already has an antenna so I can test both cards

His bios was over 12MB already and it uses a newer Intel ME. It's not "simple" to switch from DP_D to DP_B in the laptop, if it was it would be done already. Again everyone who only thinks in hardware takes software way too lightly. I'm a hardware person myself, but after these last few months working on bios modding, I see how tedious it is just to implement one thing. For me this is low priority for now. Once I have done my other mods I can take a look, but edid being a simple issue, it's not much of an issue to me. I'm going to make a simple windows program that autofixes and autodetects this in the future, but that's after I get my 4090 heatsink and swap the eDP panel for my 17 R1.

EDID is just a script that executes at each startups. We just want to use back the DP_B, that's the annoying part, that's it literally it. The rest is usable. Could try on the clevo p570wm. It has a big chip, 64MBit and there are some space left.

ASUS did a much better job of PCIe lane allocation on the Z890 Apex than they did with the X870E Apex. It has two usable PCIe 4X slots (instead of just one) and neither one affects the GPU in terms of dropping it down to 8X instead of it running at 16X as it should. Only the bottom 16X slot steals GPU bandwidth. The two Klevv drives are running Gen3 because they are installed in a Gen3 PCIe NVMe card. It sucks that the only slot that does not affect the GPU on the X870E Apex is the one situated above the GPU. I have room for 4 more NVMe but have run out of 1TB and 2TB spares to install in it. Right now it is on a test bench with a spare 3070. Have to decide which chassis to move it to.

Janepa said that on M18xR2 and it requires heavy bios modding and a new bios chip to support a larger bios. I haven't looked into that myself yet but it's something I can look in the future. It's much easier to make a small app for windows that fixes the edid issue if the bios and everything works fine (only windows issue)

I am very happy that you are on the mend. We are not doctors, but I do not have a great deal of confidence in medical science and I think sometimes we are better off figuring things out on our own rather than taking a doctor's advice. If we did everything our doctor's wanted, some of us would be dead. And, because some of us have followed the direction of medical professionals we are worse off (some maybe even dead). When it involves pharmaceuticals and surgery, it is driven my the same motivating factors as AI. The wealth generation matters far more than the lives of people it is supposedly going to benefit. AI does suck, but it can be useful. It sucks because of what it has done to the world, but I do not believe it will end well. It has hurt more than PC hardware enthusiasts, and it is because of rampant greed of the companies developing it. I hope that it ends up ruining all of them with catastrophic and unrecoverable financial losses that puts most of them out of business. I use it for self-help/medical questions as you did, and I use it at work frequently. A fair amount of my new job involves using it and identifying new uses for it. It is dangerous for all of us in terms of personal security. AI should not know who we are. Because it does it will be used by bad actors to do bad things that would never be possible without the assistance of AI. Fake everything is coming our way. I suspect it will redefine what "fake news" means and take it to the next level. We will see and hear video and audio clips of thing that were never said and never happened. People will go to jail for doing things they never did, marriages will be destroyed because of things that never happened, etc. I asked who is Mr. Fox? and it knows all of us. It knows who we hang out with... past and present... from before AI was invented.

Hello. Didn't you say someone in this forum could change the DCB route from the SBIOS? (Ivy and Haswell?) If so... We can even tell the SBIOS that the eDP is in B instead so we don't have to do EDID override for the 4080/4090. Which means the DP_B out will work too! Again, Edid override works in all systems. Dell based systems too. Universally on Windows 10 and 11. Without it, we can no longer use the GPU's drivers and it'll display nothing on every ports. Only issue is we lose the DP_B output because it's non-PnP.

I have been my own doctor the last two days. Google and some AI. I'm sure the higher blood-pressure in the noon/evening come because I now have stooped smoking so fast. Within 3-4 days I have stopped with the last 16 cigarillos/cigars to zero. And within the last 10 day I have gone from 35 cigarillos a day down to zero. Then my heavy coffee drinking... When I quit the smoking right of, the body takes much longer time ro reduce the caffeine level in my body. Up to the double time. The more I drink the more it will stay stuck in the body and make problems. Some summary.... Increased adrenaline due to nicotine withdrawal will actually increase the blood pressure. Same also for people try quitting alcohol after long time drinking. It is actually a well-known medical phenomenon that blood pressure can temporarily rise right after you quit smoking. Although your heart rate and acute blood pressure usually drop once the nicotine shock wears off, many people find that their overall blood pressure increases in the weeks after quitting smoking. When your blood pressure rises to 160/175 over the course of the day, it is a clear sign that your body is under high physical stress due to quitting smoking. Even if your morning reading of 130/74 is fine, a jump to 160-170 during the day is high enough that you should address it, especially since you already have a known high blood pressure condition and are on medication. Your liver takes twice as long: Because you quit smoking 3-4 days ago, your body excretes caffeine half as quickly as before. The 33-100 milligrams stay in your bloodstream for many hours. With 1 liter coffee drinking It will increase my blood-pressure on top of the hard stress for the body quitting to zero cigarettes. When I become stressed in the daytime my blood-pressure going bananas for hours until I fell in sleep at night-time. Thats not good after a stroke. The key is stable lower blodpreesureover time/weeks. Will confront my doctor witht the findings tomorrow. I can not see another reson my blodd-pressure going bananas in the noon/evening the last days. The only change Ihas done is stopping smoking. I tested my teory... Used one small sobril tablet. Half an hour later, my blood-presure went down from 170 down to 147. More relaxed/reduced stress reduced my blood pressure almost immediately. I think changing the blodpressurebmedicine and get some more closer to the evening will hep reduce blood-pressure in the noon/evening. Because earlier in the day I have no problem. Me now... Feel I'm Doc Papusan Yup, more like a real doctor😁 LOL. AI sucks...... Wish we could push all the new modern trash into the grave. "Papusan" (frequently active as "Doc Papusan" or simply Papusan) is a well-known, high-profile community figure and enthusiast in the global PC hardware, overclocking, and tech benchmarking communities. [1, 2] Hardware Specialization & Stance Flagship Hardware Tuning: His personal system specs, famously nicknamed "The Killer" on TechPowerUp, boast extreme custom liquid cooling setups handling top-tier hardware like the Intel Core i9-14900KS, highly optimized DDR5 memory, and various flagship graphics cards like the RTX 4090 and RTX 5090. [1, 2] Anti-Censorship & Consumer Advocacy: Within his circles, he is known for a candid, blunt, and highly critical tone regarding modern consumer tech trends. He regularly calls out major manufacturers for prioritizing aesthetic RGB features over adequate power delivery cooling, criticizes bloatware in modern operating systems, and acts as a vocal critic of overhyped AI trends. [1, 2]

I flashed the latest BIOS without flashing the newer ME (using the flash recovery and renamed file) and it made little difference. I notice my "max effective clocks" are less even though I see no evidence of throttling. That makes me wonder if there is a BIOS setting I am missing somewhere. The max core frequency and max effective clock should be the same unless something is set wrong. Here is what Google Gemini AI told me. Nice try, robo-tech. Already did all that.

Hello. What's the P/N of your Sibeam DMC Wireless card in the M18X R2?

I've made a hardware mod with applying a square copper plate on the chip and thermally connecting it to the metallic frame right above it. Changes: - First 15-20mins after boot, looks better, 95 degrees instead of 103-106 without Fn+1, 82-84 instead of 95 with Fn+1. - (no Fn+1) As the time goes by, temps gradually go up and up, and at some point I reached a new maximum: 110. Holy hell. - (with Fn+1) Temps go down slower than before, but still they go down to 82-85 degrees with Fn+1. - What the hell: I think, the metallic frame above PCH / under KB is just really bad at temperature dissipation. I understood this by removing KB and touching different areas on it while having the PC running. At some point, the area under PCH reaches its heat limit that can no longer be effectively transported with this bad temperature dissipation, and so temps just go up and up. Now my HW-level idea and plan is to lead the heat out of that area directly to the fans, the most realistic and light-weight idea is to do it using naked copper wires @ 0.5-1mm thickness, routing them from the PCH / square copper plate and the frame area above - to the left to the CPU fan, and to the right to the GPU fan - having them attached to the frame and thus also sharing some heat with it and its distant areas that are currently "unreachable" for the heat. Attaching the wires to the inner side of the frame first of all, and maybe also adding on the upper side. Good idea, or mehh? xD If anyone has any ideas, tips, advises, I would be grateful. :-)

Yeah that's the thing I think too, this looks too bad I've never overvolted anything, I only undervolted the 9900K to the stable -95,and that's it. Btw, maybe there's smth I could check also in the BIOS? I have Obsidian Unlocked BIOS, where/what should I look for if anything?

I have a .fd file but no idea where I got it or even if it's for Ranger. Use at your own peril. https://www.udrop.com/ONt9/VAS00X64.rar My notes say you got the insyderflash.exe from DELL, open it and without closing it goto your C:\windows\temp folder and copy VASxxx.fd file. Put that .fd file onto the root of a FAT32 usb stick (follow the rest of the guide) Trouble is I cannot find an insyderflash bios update for Ranger. You can try find the official bios files here https://www.dell.com/support/product-details/en-au/product/alienware-17/drivers Dont click on download, click where is says Alienware 17 system bios, then at bottom of side screen click All driver versions.

*** Here is a praise post to offset the many (often justifiable) complaints we see posted in social media. *** I have been a NewEgg customer for about 25 years. In spite of some of the horror stories, I have never once, that I can recall, had a bad experience with them in spite of hundreds of purchases. My Z890 Apex was $549.99 with a $269.99 Crucial E100 2TB NVMe included as a "free gift" not a combo sale. It shows that way on the invoice. They are priced separately and the $269.99 deducted as a "discount" on the invoice. I received my order on Tuesday of this week. The Z890 Apex is now available for $399.99. The customer service AI bot told me it was not eligible for price match because it was a combo. I spoke to a rep after the bot said no. The rep saw the issue and issued me a $150 refund in the form of a NewEgg gift card. No begging or arguing. He said it was not a combo, it was a free gift (agreed with me) and is eligible for the price match because it was within the 7-day time window.

No rush. It is working fine otherwise. I tested 9931 and it is the same as 9901. I'm surprised if they were not able to downgrade using the flash recovery method. That always worked before (and does on AMD) even when ASUS says you cannot go back. I may test that on one BIOS position to find out if it is really true or not. I may just take a Macrium image of my current OS and install an older version of Windoze with no debloating mods to rule that out as a possible cause.

Im on the latest version, but I’ve heard people say it has internal limiters or something and you can’t downgrade. Something does seem to be limiting you. I know you could probably score higher by undervolting (very small undervolt with offsets) on P/E cores but it might introduce instability long term. When I get home I’ll check my score tomorrow. On the road till then unfortunately.

Yep as I knew it's a Nvidia drivers issue 100%. Yes laptops only want DP/eDP data to display on the eDP DP_D display, that's it. X-Vsion told me that some "motherboards" they tested, the drivers don't throw an error 43 and don't set the main display to non-PnP in DP_D mode. DP_B could display only if there are no drivers + LCD cable disconnected. Yes we need drivers to display more than 1 display thru DP and HDMI out. The EDID override is handy because it removes the error 43 on the GPU's drivers and allows display in DP_A, C and D. Without EDID override, you can't use the GPU's drivers in windows.

That's very interesting, so the laptops themselves don't even care about eDP on A, C, D. I will need to look into the vBIOS more now with this data. If you can get their 5080/5090 vbios send to me so I can check it as well. This is all a windows issue with nvidia driver.

Hello, Looking for a GTX 980M MSI MS-1W0J1 VBIOS. Current card: - GPU: N16E-GX-A1 - Board ID: E90C - Current VBIOS: 84.04.22.00.0C - PCI ID: 10DE:13D7 - Subsystem: 1462:1129 Machine: Alienware 17 R1 BIOS A17 Problem: Card works perfectly in Windows. Internal LCD works after driver initialization. Without HDMI connected during POST, BIOS gives 8 beeps. Looking specifically for: - Board ID E90C VBIOS - Prema - MSI - or Dell-compatible E90C dump

Yup. Like on Clevo and Dell Precision too. Windows only blackscreen when drivers are present

Try a old driver like 425.xx first and see if that works. If not, you can try a dell vbios on the card (backup old bios)

What about 4080/4090 on AW? It also show bios screen with eDP cable then windows black screens?