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  2. SuperMG
    The 4080/4090/5080 vBIOSes have the eDP on B and this makes the Nvidia drivers go nuts (since the laptop's display is at D)... The PDF instructions show a workaround on how to get them to work by using the GPU's D port. I can do 489€ with Paypal as friends so no marketplace fees. For the shipping you can pay later as I don't know how much I'll pay for UK shipping at the end. The card has a warranty till May of 2027. I can include the digital invoice of it later.
  3. Mercer
    Yes, they all will be a significant upgrade I think: that A5500 has over 3 x the Cuda cores, than my P5200, for example. Are there modded bios's for all the cards you list? I read some X-Vision ones as problematic. As I said I want 16GB vram but what are you charging for that modded 4070, if I may ask? Thanks again.
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  5. SuperMG
    There's a PSU mod but you need someone to do it. You also need better thermal room after. So definitely stick with 115W. The fastest 115W RTX is the RTX 4070 MXM. There's the 4090 MXM 115W too, I have its vBIOS (to go from 150W to 115W). You can do that: - Buy the A5000/A5500/3080/4090 from X-VSION/ZRT - Buy my 4070 MXM with backlight mod, can ship now Try which one has better RT and CUDAs performance and sell the one you don't want. That's what I did with the 3080 and 4080. I kept the 4080.
  6. Mercer
    Yes I don't think you can get any other higher PSU to work with these workstation laptops. I'll stick to looking at the 115w cards then. Understood.
  7. SuperMG
    As said you need a new heatsink and you need a better PSU mod. 300W Omen ones won't work out of the box.
  8. Mercer
    Kind of partly answered my own question I guess, re-heatshield and what you said: I see the difference in layout of chip, memory and VRMs.
  9. Mercer
    Thanks, really appreciated. Is that because of the edge to edge VRMs? Looking at the cards and comparing to the P5200 I would have assumed my existing heatsink is OK? I'm aware the G6 Turing cards are a different wider form with staggered screw mount holes but I thought maybe these more standard 3.0B MXMs would be OK? I even thought of scouting for a G6 MB, as it's the same case as the G6 but those HP MXMs were only around in that laptop as far as I am aware, and Turing is only a little better in performance. Yes I'd prefer 115w - I'm almost permanently on a 280w G4 TB dock, but it still only supplies 230w to the actual laptop. That's tempting but I want this for Davinci Resolve Studio that recommends a minimum of 16GB vram for advanced AI tools - the P5200 is fine just a little slow with those things. Did that RTX 4090 work with the standard heatshield? And is discrete not possible with any of these cards? Not necessarily a deal breaker but I'd have to re-think a little, if the case. Definitely want the laptop screen to work too, whatever, since I use 2 screens + an Ultrastudio driven video monitor and no desk space for 2 external pc screens - the 2nd monitor HDMI out. I really like this laptop and it still kicks OK, but maybe I should be looking at 2nd hand G8-10s, but times are hard for everyone right now. Thanks for all your info, I've been reading your posts carefully, since you obviously really know your stuff.
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  11. Reciever
    I just wanted to keep the group together, I enjoy the chats and even sometimes (though I'll never admit it) the arguments that take place. Sometimes they get heated and require a timeout to let people cool off but otherwise I despise the heavy handedness / on the nose bias some other forums or reddit have in terms of moderation. Also have to thank @Aaron44126 for leading the charge on archiving the posts from NBR. It may come time to have that information internet facing into the Forum. I am a heavy proponent of "The more authority you exert, the less you have" and I try to keep that in the back pocket for moderating here also and in leading my teams at work. You are henceforth BANNED FOR LIFE. No good deed and all that lol Honestly ALL infrastructure, planning, software deployment was all built by @Hiew. I may handle how we moderate and deal with escalations but without Hiew this forum would not exist. He's FINALLY starting to get motivated to build donations and/or subs to assist with forum expenses also so we just have to figure out a good time for both of us to pull away from work. Im hoping we get something locked in this year maybe around the holidays. In other news, a friend of a friend got a miship from Amazon for some 9070 XT's, I bought 3 for 575/each and sold one to a colleague. Also ordered another 64GB of sRAM and 512GB of Persistent Memory for my server totalling 1.1TB of useable RAM. Going to try my hand at some larger local models with the 2-3 9070 XT's Same colleague is trading his R5 3600 + 6700 XT for my 5800X3D that I no longer use so that makes it 3x 9070 XT's for the local AI server. I hate what AI has done to my hobby but I still want to get a working understanding of how to use it. Adapt or Die and all that
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  13. Mr. Fox
    I can understand it. This is what they are doing to all of us. Financial rape. Simple as that. They should watch out though. You know what they say about pay-back. (It starts with a "b" and ends with "itch" if you were not sure.) Companies that lie together die together. First EVGA. Now Galax. Wonder who comes next? Who will be left and who dumb enough to sell NVIDIA chips after the AI bubble breaks? Edit: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/248718-cpu-z-version-usage-limited-to-version-301-and-newer/#findComment-720971
  14. DoenerBoy123
    Okay so I might found something promising. The service manual mentions a 3G/LTE port that also carries one usb 2.0 port. The pads of the slot seem to be present, but just left unused as this laptop never had an option for using WWAN network cards. To reach the usb pins I have to fully disassemble the laptop. I will give it a try the next days and report back whether those pins are actually working or not. If successful, I also gonna write a follow up regarding the keyboard ARGB mod as it might be quite useful for lots of people here, especially for those with dead keyboard backlights
  15. Papusan
    NVIDIA RTX 5080 is now selling for nearly $2,000 at US retailers, $800 higher in just two months 5080 is now the new flagship. And priced equal. RTX 5080 starts 98.2% above NVIDIA’s $999 MSRP. I can't understand these new prices for 5080's. Because there is no "shortages" for 5080's. The retail shops here home is flooded with them. And this isn't region specific. It's a widespread disease. Some out there take the chance to milk every drop from the gamers/creators. Are gamers now the new stupids?🙄 In a way, I can somewhat understand the higher prices for Nvidia’s 32GB flagship cards—they are actually cheap AI cards. But this is out of hands.
  16. DDAY3493
    @ElLoco93 I will still send you those drivers! I have been very busy lately that's why I haven't had a chance to send them to you!
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  18. SuperMG
    Hello. Yes any cards that have UEFI VBIOS and DP_D signal as DP/eDP will work in your laptop. Someone tested with the RTX 4090 (X-VSION vbios chip) withOUT the backlight mod and it worked with his external DP output and also in Switchable Graphics mode. People tested the RTX 3000/5000 (HP vbios chip) and they worked in the Zbook G5 17. G5 17 and G6 17 share the same MXM pinouts so no worries. You need to find a custom heatsink for the RTX Ada cards. I wouldn't recommend 150W+ cards because of the thermal room and of the limit of the official 230W PSU. On my tests, the A5500 was slower than the RTX 3080M and the A5500 was a little bit faster than the RTX 5000. I also sell an RTX 4070 115W but it's a 8GB card. Has the backlight mod already installed on the card. It beats the 3080M. Without the backlight mod, you'll have a black screen in your main eDP screen.
  19. Mr. Fox
    https://community.hwbot.org/topic/247206-sneak-peek-at-cpu-z-300-validator-v3/page/2/#findComment-720965 https://community.hwbot.org/topic/248718-cpu-z-version-usage-limited-to-version-301-and-newer/#findComment-720963 Not a fan. Benching has been the only valid reason for me to keep a drive in my dual boot systems for Windoze and what changed with CPU-Z is another reason for me to continue with Linux as my primary OS and one less reason to waste a precious NVMe on Windoze. The new CPU-Z goes way beyond its original usefulness. It is bloated, buggy and collects information (and not accurately) that distracts from its original value. I wish it had been left alone. One less product for me to use for HWBOT submission than before. The shrinking list of acceptable benchmark tools and growing list of rules are making this sport less and less attractive at every turn.
  20. Mr. Fox
    Everything is turning into feces. Stupid is the new normal. Now even something as simple as CPU-Z is trash. https://valid.cpuid.com/gbjcws26 Look at the POS new Validator V3. Pure crap. For one, it's wrong. The SSDs that it cannot identify as partitioned are in use and functioning normally. For another thing, they are inserting themselves where they are NOT WELCOMED. It's none of their damned business what GPU driver I am using. It is a CPU tool, for pity's sake. That would not be acceptable even from GPU-Z. My submission is not valid because of the totally unrelated warnings about unpartitioned storage devices because these retarded morons are measuring things that are unrelated to the reason CPU-Z exists. Scroll down to the bottom. Look at the software section. Everything in it is none of their damned business, nor is it anyone elses that wants to look at the submission. They need to get back into their lane and stay there. Effing bastards. The inaccuracy calls them into question in a big way. The following are inaccurately reported: Unpartitioned storage device #1 - partitioned and functioning normal Unpartitioned storage device #2 - partitioned and functioning normal Windoze Defender: Enabled - wrong - it has been removed through OS modding Code Integrity: Enabled - wrong - it is disabled Fast Startup: Enabled - wrong - it is disabled
  21. kalan
    Hi I am looking to get a second-hand workstation, one of them is precision 7560. I saw pretty good deal on that laptop, but I do have a bit of questions. 1. Does the behavior of laptop tends to screw over performance (let say, drop wattage like crazy) normal? And can it be fix? (I am curious since I saw good amount of reply in this thread about that) 2. If it couldn't, any alternative laptop? (Please only recommend 2nd hand one as a brand new computer with specs I am looking for (laptop with minimum 8gb vram gpu) are too expensive for me)
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  23. Mercer
    Not stupid at all but I don't think it will work. HP changed the MXM form factor for the G6 to non-standard staggered mounting screws and wider VRM/memory side size. The G5 heatsink won't mount/cover that properly without modification. The same era Dell Precisions and Thinkpad P7x went proprietary too, even more radically, junking MXM alltogether, I believe. I've got a 17 G5 with P5200 too; and I want to go the other way to newer RTX; at least the form factor is standard MXM 3.0B. I don't believe 9th gen 8c16t will be a huge leap over 8th gen 6c12t either, especially if you get one with the i9/Xeon MB - the cpu matters less than the gpu generally, so if you really want the P5200 you may be better off with getting just the G5 - it will probably be cheaper too, they are going for very little now.
  24. Mercer
    Hi SuperMG, how do I buy this from the UK? Also in your eBay listing, you list my laptop: HP ZBook 17 G5. What newer cards are known to work with this? Currently I have a Quadro P5200 and I'm just looking to upgrade to something with the at least the same Vram, 16GB, but with newer RTX Tensor/RT cores. I've only just joined but I've read this forum for some time and I am still a little confused about the vbios requirements. The Zbook MXMs not having vbios on card for example. I was looking at this: https://www.x-vsion.com/product/mxm-embedded-module-rtx-a5500-16gb/ but happy to use any later RTX 16B card than I have now. What card was known to work from your listing? And what if any vbios would be required for these embedded MXMs to work with my laptop. Thanks.
  25. Mercer
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  26. Maro97
    I’ve tried all kinds of thermal pastes and most of the thermal pads available on the market for laptops throughout my 20 years of experience with gaming laptops. So far, I haven’t found anything better than Thermal Grizzly Duronaut and a thermal pad brand called Aairhut 13W/m.k
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  28. ThaLumpi
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  29. Mr. Fox
    DDR5-9000 The Vengeance CUDIMM is non-RGB Chrome and fits the aesthetic of the black and chrome Unify-X nicely... until I strip them and put them on water.
  30. Papusan
    Let em pop bro @Mr. Fox One by one🙂 The "Magnificent Seven" companies with the largest market capitalization in the US are the ones profiting from AI; the rest are not. The tech industry has focused entirely on AI, investing billions of dollars to buy hardware, train AI models, or simply use it with tokens. The AI bubble has already burst in China: $480 billion has evaporated While the United States and Europe continue to talk about an artificial intelligence (AI) bubble, in China it seems to have already begun to deflate quite rapidly. Nvidia is scared: Leaker suggests RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 discontinuation signals impending AI collapse Nvidia has reportedly discontinued the GeForce RTX 5090 and the RTX 5080 GPUs. Leaker Moore's Law Is Dead thinks that these cancellations have more to do with the state of the AI industry than Nvidia preparing to launch the RTX 50 Super series.
  31. Papusan
    This one is dedicated to......
  32. Papusan
    First you have this.... NVIDIA says it hasn't discontinued the RTX 5090, but its partners can no longer manufacture them. Rumors about the end of GeForce RTX 5090 GPU production have resurfaced, this time with direct sources within the manufacturing chain. While NVIDIA recently denied that its top-of-the-line graphics card has been discontinued, and that... Then you have this... [Exclusive] GALAX abandons the GPU market: there are not enough NVIDIA chips The situation surrounding NVIDIA graphics cards continues to worsen, and now it may have claimed a major victim: GALAX. According to industry sources, Palit has reportedly decided to close its factory... Nvidia RTX GPU vendor Palit denies its Galax factory has closed due to a shortage of chips And this... ZOTAC Puts The RTX 5090 Up For Sale At $7500 In Japan, Even As Board Partners Say They Can No Longer Buy The GB202 Chip Yup, this is spot on......
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