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@SuperMG Many many thanks 🙏 🌺 I'll postpone the GPU upgrade process at the moment and when the time comes I know just where to go.. Thanks again

It's a 4070. A 3060 I sold one for 300€.

@SuperMG What specific GPU we are talking about, is it a 3060? And are there any more affordable options? As for shipping I may arrange an UK West Midlands shipping address..

It doesn't make sense from Europe to USA to Middle east. It'll cost you way too much It'll cost me 125€ to ship to the USA. USA shipping prices increased crazily for my country. Iraq shipping is impossible from my country too. The card is 505€ with backlight mod v2 installed.

@SuperMG What's the model and compatibility? And if it's in my budget range, I could easily complete the payment and provide you with US Florida shipping address that I'm using for shopping and shipping from US to IQ

All latest versions of dsanke BIOS and EC work properly.

Title says it all

Can you tell me the me EC version?

Loosen the timings and check 8000->8400 with TM5 Extreme and/or Karhu to see which one can truly stretch its wings the best unhindered by memory timing constraints but IMC or potentially MB constraints. See if 8200 can pass and if so maybe one of them can do an 8400 run. Once you see how high you can fly out the gate, then go back and start tightening up profiles.

Oddly enough, I was trying @Mr. Fox 8000c34 bios settings, and CPU#1 could not run the 1.480V VDD, it required 1.500 VDD to even post in bios. Well CPU#2 works fine with 1.480 VDD. So IMC strength is definitely there, and seems to factor in your ram ability as well.

I will hopefully be grabbing one day 1 LOL. I swear in my next house I need an entire basement as a man cave for all of this hardware I've been collecting over the years. I want to build a rack of test benches. Setup a nice home gym in one of the corners, a coffee bar and some nice lazy boys in the other corner with a big home theater setup.

Did you edited the bios by yourself?

Edp other is eletrical design point and other reason, it shows in trottle stop or HWINFO under IA limit reason or core limit reasons But can you tell me what you changed in your magical dsanke bios? Also if non undervolted do you still achieve 4.9 or 4.7 in idle???

How do you see that in the unlocked BIOS?

I want to know if you did changed this LLC or vdroop, because mine if no undervolt cant even idle at 4.7ghz regular temps cuz edp other will be firing constantly and yes 255A (1023) limit set in bios

I dont have a bios with all the settings, something is making me edp other while under load, the vcore cant surpass 1.27v if surpass itnlower the clock

I don't know why, core 0 was maxing at 4.7GHz while the other were maxing at 4.9GHz during the CPU-z tests. AVX -2. Is there a way to set fixed Vcore on P775? I have an unlocked BIOS with all the settings.

Thats the mystery im trying to solve, do you 4.9 while udner load? Or edp other back to 4.7?

I'll sell but I don't think it's a good bin. It bsod at -100mV. I can -80mV for 4.7GHz to 4.9GHz all cores.

First of all, congratz on getting two great chips! Second, have you tested their core strength and not just the IMC? Third, How are you testing? This is a situation I would throw Karhu at both of them and see what rises to the top for their IMCs Lastly, quite honestly to me, 8000+ is end game now for AM5 if only marginally so because while 6600 is nice the real end goal for AM5 is 2200+ and 8000+. I've upended all my timings and settings centered around 8000+ because at worst it performs the same as 6400 while at best it actually does a smidge better. The problem also is if you can only run 2167 then that throws out of sync a bit matching 2200:6600. Test both of them at 8000, 8200, 8400 and see which one rises to the top next. Real testing TM5 Extreme at least or Karhu if you want that end game verdict of where they stand realistically. I'm absolutely fine with powerhouse versions and this is exactly what I plan to pick up their 50 core + monstrosity. But with that being said, as long as they attach that cache to their 7 and 5 skus (or whatever they're going to call them), that will more than cover competing against AMD's 10850X3D (or whatever it ends up being called) along with the 9850X3D. I expect Intel to take the same approach as they did with Socket 1700 and to a degree 1851 and just come out blazing.... Keeping the same socket will also do much for longevity and good will. They finally realized the best way to keep customers locked in is making upgrades as easy as dropping in a new CPU. AMD figured this out a long time ago especially if your objective is to, well, sell CPUs?

Don't give up on the one that only runs 2167 just yet. If the voltage suggestions I texted to you work you might be able to run 2200 FCLK stable. If they do not work, then I would choose CPU #1 that does run 2200 FCLK at 6400 C28. The 2200 FCLK is more important than the 6600 C30. That is because the FCLK is the frequency that connects the CCDs and IO die and being limited to 2167 is not ideal because it becomes a bottleneck that affect more things adversely than just being able to run a 200 MHz higher RAM frequency. Because these components are physically separate, they must communicate across the CPU package. FCLK dictates how fast data can travel between these chiplets. If FCLK is low, it creates a bottleneck where your memory sends data faster than the internal highway can handle. Conversely, pushing FCLK too high past its physical stability limits (usually a maximum of 2200 MHz on Zen 5 CPUs) results in audio crackling, USB dropouts, system crashes or no boot (code 00). Running high memory frequency on Ryzen has diminishing returns, especially on X3D chips. You are better off focusing on bandwidth, which is why 8000 2:1 is better than 6400 1:1. It allows more data to pass through in the same amount of time due to higher bandwidth. You will find that 6600 1:1, 8000 2:1 have similar benchmark scores, but 8000 2:1 is higher bandwidth and allows you to do a little further with performance. And, 2200 FCLK matters for both configurations. The CPU that can do 6600 C30 1:1 has a very strong IMC and a weak fabric. Stronger fabric trumps stronger IMC unless the IMC is really horrible. There is not going to be much difference between 6600 C30 and 6400 C28, but a 2167 FCLK would hold you back and probably have measurably higher latency. The fabric is sort of like a transmission. If you have a strong engine and a fragile transmission with the wrong gear ratios the strong engine is going to be of limited benefit because it cannot push the performance to the wheels where it matters most.

Do you sell this cpu? How much? My i7 9700k is trash it can only sustain 4.7 after a not so stable -100mv in windows, otherwise it will insanely edp other

Me thinking Intel is going back to pump out more powa😀 Exactly as bro @Mr. Fox want. More to everyone😎 This is what intel need to do. Forget about lowest power possible. Win for every costs. If the cores and cache need more power, then let it get what it needs. And stop make desktop processors from power efficient mobile crap. Leak Confirms Intel's Long-Term Socket Plan with LGA-1954 Intel's "Nova Lake-S" desktop processors are drawing nearer, and today a leaked partner slide from China confirmed many of the plans we anticipated. Starting with the LGA-1954 socket, Intel's testing tools had already verified the pin count. This slide not only confirms the pin count but also introduces a small detail about it. In the bottom left corner, there is a disclaimer stating that Intel plans to keep the LGA-1954 socket for multiple generations.

So, I was worried this would happen lol. I am testing the 2nd 9950X3D2, and it has a “Superman” IMC. Even stronger than the other one. This one runs 6600c30 1:1 without any fuss, but only 2,167 FCLK. So now I have a choice to make. #1 (9950X3D2) 2200fclk@ 6400c28 1:1 Easy Mode SP118. #2 (9950X3D2) 2167fclk@ 6600c30 1:1 Easy Mode SP118. 🤔

even the temps being reasonable i need insane undervolt of -106mv to have stable 4.7ghz, i seen mfs rocking i9 9900k's at 5ghz here, whats wrong with my puter? Everything it edp others the shit out of my clock And I can push 187W and 140A at the cpu btw