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Hey @crossshot Sorry to hear that one of the ssd slots died and I hope you are able to sell your faulty x170km I am curious, though, from your previous messages on this thread about the random shutdown issues with this laptop. Were you able to fix the shutdown issues? I am using latest Origin bios and ec, and the only way to fix the random shutdowns seems to be to not install the clevo control center, likely due to the instability from the fan control app. Another user mentioned that disabling the overclocking feature in the bios will also help but I run an undervolt on my cpu, so I don’t want to lose the ability to undervolt. Which vendor is your x170km from? Maybe I could try a new bios but that also seems risky. I believe I have a stable system now that I have not installed the control center, but I really want to find a way to control the laptop’s fans since the default fan profile is horrible. Thanks in advance for your reply

After a long time with the X170KM-G, I was never really happy with the system. Unstable, unreliable, loud, big, heavy and compared to current systems, low power (power by watt). After one of the four M.2 slots died, I have now decided to sell the X170KM-G and bought a complete new and different system. The new system arrived in the last days: Lenovo P14s Gen 6 AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX Pro 370 AMD Radeon 890M (internal GPU) 64GB RAM 5600 MT/s 8TB M.2 WD SN850X SSD Thunderbold 4 Smart Dock Gen2 7500 Razer Core X V2 with - Sharkoon Rebel P30 Gold - Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB So i have gaming, CAD and 3D power with the powerful external GPU at home and max. mobility with the P14s and way longer battery life. First i will try to sell the X170KM-G as it is. If i don't get the i won't, will sell it in parts and will inform you. But it's only interessting for people inside the EU. I don't sell parts outside Europe.

Well, that's what I get for waiting a few days before ordering. I ordered my WV2 on 11/3. Looks like we both got pushed back, but myself ~3 weeks after yours. Well, that's a lot of data I'll get to soak in from you and @jaybee83 before mine arrives. 🙂 ---- Agreed on the GPU front. I think @Papusan noted several months ago (while I had my 5080FE before jettisoning it due to locked out vBIOS) the juice wasn't worth the squeeze vs the 5070ti in terms of cost MSRP vs MSRP and then obviously AIB models that completely went off the tracks especially for 5080s ($1800 for an Astral 5080?) and obviously 5090s (~$3800 for an Astral 5090 LC?). Then again, the way the market is going, next gen AMD is now rumored for mid 2027 (or later) and I suspect Nvidia will follow suit. I would not be surprised if we don't see 10k and 6k series cards from AMD and Nvidia till Fall of 2027 at this rate with the RAM market hopefully coming to its senses by fall 2026 enough for Nvidia to offer Super cards by Jan 2027. And we still have price hikes incoming. Along with scaled back production due to memory reallocation from Nvidia to more lucrative markets In other words, hug your 9070xt's and 5090's and hunker down..... Not the greatest 9070xt, but Microcenter has Asrock Challenger 9070xt in stock for $579.99 They also have several 5070ti models at $749.99 and one at $729.99 Bang for buck, that 9070xt can't be beat.... Even in RT only testing, the 9070xt trades blows with the 5070ti: 5080s are running off the rails with the lowest cost being $1300 at Microcenter.... Cheapest on the part picker is $1129.99.... For myself, I'd either scoop up a fantastically priced Challenger 9070xt for $550.99 after MC discount or pony up a bit more for the Zotac 5070ti for $693.49....

First batch. My last update was December 9 and their projection was January 21, 2026 delivery. I think the 5070 Ti is a better value (bang for buck) than a 5080. The 5080 is better but the price gap doesn't scale with performance well enough to make it worth paying more. The 4070 Ti is also a good GPU. I'd buy it if I were not unemployed. It would be perfect in a Phanteks MT X3 build.

Yep sad a bit but that gives a little window for @jaybee83 to give his full assessment of it and if it gets his stamp of approval. @Mr. Fox were you batch 1 or batch 2? Any updates on your ship date? --- Do you plan on keeping both or picking one or the other? Both are good GPUs and basically in the same class of performance depending on game/program you're running. For that brief window in August to early September, 5090s were available in pockets on some models for $1999.99 and others had come down for a brief spell too, but that party is over. Asus never really dropped the prices on their Astrals except the LC at MC for $3399.99 for a bit for members. Suprims did come down to near MSRP (but never quite got there) and Vanguards haven't available for months now in the US and I'm not sure why. Fallout76 Clan member wanted one to match his Godlike Z790 MSI build for the aestheticsbut they're nowhere to be found in the US for months on end. He "settled" for a Suprim. ------ I have a stack of parts I'm holding onto because pricing is just going to get worse in the market and waiting a month or so will net you more on the reseller end as FB dries up as parts hunter (present company included) continue to hunt and bleed it dry. With Nvidia cutting back on consumer level production and GPU prices expected to rise, that 4070 TI will definitely go up in value. You could put together a decent gaming PC with that 4070 Ti and get some good scratch for it.

That sucks, but I trust that TG is producing a good product. I know if I ever go down the path of securing a 5090, I would definitely be picking up a WireView. In other news, the 9070XT Red Devil arrived last week and the PRIME 5070 TI will come today. It doesn't escape my mind that I essentially spent nearly $1500 for two GPUs, when I could have put down another 500 for a 5090 at "MSRP". We all know they don't cost that, so I am fine for now. If anyone needs a 4070 TI (Gigabyte Windforce), let me know. I might just build a PC out of spare parts and sell it.

@SvenC or somebody else with the iGPU only version, is your heatsink different / less beefy than the one that is supplied with the higher end GPUs that is pictured here?

Hi All, Did anyone manage the 980M VRAM mod? i've got a 980M in my machine and im curious if its possible to be done or if there are any restrictions, sounds like its a simple reflow? (not that its simple) but if Vbios isnt a blocker surely we could go for a 12gb or 16gb unit? I know there is a market for the desktop cards being upgraded. but not seen much noise on the MXM units.

Thanks for the reply, i would have no idea how to modify the heatsink unfortunatley.

.CAD boardview file, with each common components details on board. and schematic! -MS-16F4 v1.1 rev:1.1 I hope this helps ❤️ MS-16F41 (.CAD) Boardview + Schematic.zip

So plenty of stock but prices have gone back up....Not sure if that's a win but at least you have stock. We just have the higher prices for the stock we actually have. 🙂 ------ <Insert Sad Face HERE> I'll be waiting for a bit it seems.....*sigh*

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The more Microsoft damage Windows, the more people will move over to....

Hello any news yet? Does the AX210 work in another laptop? If yes, does it detect as a wifi card?

Mine still shows "in process" and I ordered/paid on 10/30.

General question for owners--knowing what you know now about this model's issues, would you buy your DPM16P again?

still plenty of stock, albeit prices are continuously increasing and the low point waaay out of reach by now. out of 40 models listed, 6 are available shortly, with 29 directly available in stock. cheapest is, funnily enough, the FE at 2650€ 😄 at 19% VAT that would equate to 2227€ without tax or equivalently 2621 USD, again, thats currently the cheapest available, so seems like norway @Papusanhas some better luck now with 5090 pricing 😛 oh snap, say wat! didnt expect the next version to be out so soon already. @electrosoft btw bud, just got notified today that my TG wireview pro II was shipped out, hows it looking on your end? 🙂 guess now its time to also order me some additional pots of TG putty pro to completely fill out the backside underneath the backplate. every bit counts when flashing the matrix / XOC 😄

Seems a little bit inconsistent between runs for some reason. Not sure if the 3D-Vcache is helping the EPYC or what. The clocks and power limits are the same as the 9950X, but it scores higher.

This was the problem before. Now, i think it works. I hope this for test.

Nice. Thanks, bro. They finally gave it a new program icon so you can tell at a glance which Cinebench version the shortcut is for.

https://videocardz.com/newz/cinebench-2026-released-with-support-for-amd-rdna4-and-nvidia-blackwell-gpus Cinebench 2026 has been released. New software to punish our chips with. https://www.maxon.net/en/downloads/cinebench-downloads

XMG BIOS Version: N.1.18A14 EC Version: 1.26.00 That's right. The factory one wasn't like this... 🙂

You're right, the different layout I saw was from the BIOS of the Neo 16 E23/E24. Your BIOS and options seem to be exactly the same as on my laptop. Including the exact same version 2.22.0059.