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Hopefully we will both be around for the 50th. I think AI is here to stay. It's useful. I like it and use it. Like anything else, it can be abused and misused for nefarious purposes. It will be. Guaranteed. Probably already has been more than we even know. The same applies to guns, knives and baseball bats. None of them should be outlawed or banned. None of them are bad. Only the people that misuse them are. I do hope that NVIDIA, memory foundries, and all of their bedfellows will get severely burned financially. I do not need or want to be able sell my GPUs for an insane profit. They should lose value and become obsolete like the rest of the parts inside of a computer do. They should lose value the moment the box it opened. It's wrong and messed up that they sell for so many times more than they are actually worth and I hope that ASIC-type devices and other alternative technologies make them an obsolete poor choice and utterly destroy their marketability to be used for AI just as we saw with crypto. I hope that happens very soon and all of the stock bought up by AI farms get dumped and totally flood the market with millions of 5090 GPUs to make it impossible for new GPUs to be sold for prices near their original MSRP. There are probably millions of them sitting in warehouses that are still in factory-sealed boxes waiting for deployment when facilities go online. It would be awesome if they suddenly lost 75-80% of their value because of getting dumped on the market and NVIDIA couldn't sell any new GPUs because nobody needed to buy new.

Happy anniversary @Mr. Fox! 40 years is an amazing achievement! Hopefully we'll be tossing out congrats for your 50th! Maybe via a neural link...... 😁 Decent besides that AI voice over (Irony!)... So much pressure on Nvidia in line with OpenAI. They now have competitors coming for them from all sides with China and Google in housing their own chip designs now and companies, like Apple, opting to train on Google chips instead of Nvidia hardware for their AI along with others. OpenAI has lost almost 50% of its market share in 4 years as competition heats up. As for Nvidia.... Their strong handed tactics really reek of Intel back in the day with smaller companies. The forced outlay (channel stuffing) has to hit a logical wall and I feel like Nvidia is burning the candle at both ends. AMD is furiously coming on strong too along with Intel and Apple integrating neural processing in their CPUs. Now we have the DOJ investigating Nvidia's "no acquisition" acquisitions Either Nvidia is humbled by a thousand cuts and/or we will end up with some ASIC approaches to LLM and inference that will render the need for Nvidia GPUs null and void aka the cryptoboom. For us lowly end users, the key is finding the optimal moment to dump our 5080s and 5090s for max valuation if that is in play. The scariest part is Nvidia guaranteeing inventory valuation for lending and selling GPUs. That could mean they need to extend the life, and value, of the GB20X chips. It adds another reason to not rush the 6000 series to market anytime soon to combat any potential devaluation. Imagine being a company neck deep in Blackwell hardware sitting in the warehouse from channel stuffing waiting to be deployed when the grid allows it and now here comes the 6000 series.... Just don't confuse the bubble popping with AI going away. AI is here to stay and so many viable uses in real world scenarios; it is the future.

I have hyperx genuine 2133MHz sticks running in AUTO at 1866

I generally used the BIOS for CPU and memory tuning on it, I ran 4x 4GB samsung 1600mhz at 2133mhz at cl11 IIRC.

Hi, just bought a very clean example that’s fully working for a really solid price. what components can be upgraded in these? will carry out any services to ensure longevity of all the current parts. seems to be fully working running XP currently.

Just 10 more years, and it will be the 50th anniversary. Congratulations, Brother Fox. Send my best blessings to Mrs. Fox🙂

Hello, in my experience with the precision 7710 and 7720, bios that fix the plundervolt vulnerability disable the overclocking menu in Smokeless, also these bios re-enable your CPU lock registers (CFG and overlclocking) each time you reboot meaning you have to go back in Smokeless to renenable them in order to undervolt. For the precision 7540/7740 the newest bios that doesn't have the plundervolt fixes is 1.3.3 from september 2019. To downgrade to that bios you must use this : https://github.com/vuquangtrong/Dell-PFS-BIOS-Assembler Once downgraded go into the Dell bios -> Security -> UEFI capsule update -> disabled That way you don't get an automatic update to the latest bios. However if you have a newer bios, like the latest one from dell, and that you don't mind reneabling CPU CFG and CPU Overclocking lock each time you reboot to get undervolt back, you can use the variables offsets (I personally use a grubx64.efi USB key) from the attached file that is extracted from the latest 1.45 precision 7540/7740 bios. In the attached file there are still the options for "Memory Overclocking Menu". You can also attempt to just enable the overclocking menu bit and maybe the entire menu will show up in Smokeless again (this is unlikely though as the overclocking performance menu still contains variables but no UI in the 1.45 bios) : File_DXE_driver_Setup1.45 IFR.txt

Well, tomorrow (Sunday) Mrs. Fox and I celebrate 40 years of marital bliss. That does not even seem possible. Where did all of the time go? God blessed me with a good one... better than I deserve.

Does anyone OWN a P570WM? With an unlocked CPU? Can they overclock thru the BIOS or thru XTU? Thanks.

Hmm after all my research I've kinda just been thinking I should just get Xeon 17 G5 with P5200 and use that. However if I find a good deal on a 17 G6 Xeon (any GPU) then get that and experiment with it. Worst case I just have it for experiments and stuffs. Otherwise, these laptops seem very similar, would the G6 heatsink fit? Question, where do you find these for "very little"? The G5 with P5200 is quite rare and my only lead to possibly get one is 600 dollars and that's a maybe. The P5200 GPU by itself is 400 dollars so my best bet to get laptop and GPU is just to get a G5 with P5200. If you were to try the inverse my best idea would be to get 17 G6 with RTX 5000 or whatever, but in your case you would might as well just use that then.

Yes they are present, even the chipset has one. They look like the original one, not dry.

its bursting, pop pop🍿time.

Not the best solution, but ended up just limiting the max frequenmcy to 1650mhz through nvidia-smi on Linux and X1 on Windows, nvidia-settings now shows GPU drawing just around 180W at max load. I am no longer worried about cooling and power delivery, and the occasional bit of instability during certain high-power-draw applications is gone. I also found the latest 729 Dsanke BIOS and changed the IDs so that nvidia drivers install without inf modding. (Done based on this post: https://notebooktalk.net/topic/2409-clevo-p775dm-3-upgrade-adventures/?&_rid=2772#findComment-51479) but with the IDs needed for 20 series support, that is 7714. I have attached this BIOS below, for any future readers of this post, but use it at your own risk. Now the only real issue that remains is the loss of gsync from the builtin panel, which is annoying but I have no idea how to fix, based on a quick glance, it may not be something that can be fixed since all that gsync stuff is done with binary-blob-in-bios nonsense. P7xxDMx-0729-9900KS-128G_rtx20modded.zip

I never pushed the P570WM CPU like I did the NP9873, I think I generally left it at 4.3Ghz on my 4930k. I was mostly adding VRMs to the 980M and giving them a 50% overclock in those days and focussing on the GPU side as that was where the main bottleneck back then was. Have you checked the thermal pads cooling the VRMs?

Uh? I already stated multiple times I used an i7 4960X. Yes same issue. All 3 have the same issue. I can't increase the voltage, I need to increase in order to achieve 42x on all cores. I set 30, 40, 80 positive on the BIOS for the additional voltage (40 = +156mV) I see people getting like 1.4V and above with PremaMod BIOS, it is the V5 too. On the NBR forum, someone got the Xeon 1680 v2 at 4.5/4.6GHz all cores... Is he cheating?? My motherboard seems to be working, all RAM slots are working, the MXM slot (with RTX 4090M), all the USBs, even the charging IC work.

Hmm, I don't know. Something is off. Clevo had some verey strange things with their firmware and maybe the CPU is not properly recognized. Do you have a normal i7 CPU that you could install for testing to see if the problem is the same? I'm not sure what to suggest at this point. You might need help from @Prema if it is a firmware glitch. Yeah, Windoze and Winduhz is how I refer to Micro$lop OSes now. The slurs are just my personal way of showing them as little respect as they deserve for their crappy products at this point.

China need more GPUs for their AI servers. Jensen know they will pay up for 24GB vram. 5080@24GB will be for creators and AI workloads. Not for gamers. RTX 5090 smuggling devastates gaming: Micro Center bans graphics card exports and orders plummet by 75% - are they all going to China? Nvidia May Release 24GB RTX 5080 Earlier Than Expected Nvidia may release a 24GB version of the GeForce RTX 5080 in China before the previously expected launch window, according to ChannelGate. It is unclear whether the 24GB version would also replace the 16GB model in other regions. The report focuses on the Chinese market and does not establish that Nvidia plans to discontinue the current card globally. Regional product lineups could differ, but Nvidia has not announced any such plans. The GeForce RTX 5080 24 GB will mean that the RTX 5070 Ti is the most powerful GPU a gamer can buy.

What's Windoze? Windows? I didn't understand. Yes I did most of the PL, voltage override and ratio on the unlocked BIOS. I followed your guide on YouTube with the PremaMod BIOS settings but still no success... You had a 4930k

I also confirmed it with AI, LOL. Is voltage locked on Intel E5-1660 v2 CPU? No, the voltage is not locked on the Intel Xeon E5-1660 v2 processor. [1] The Intel Xeon E5-1600 series (v1, v2, and v3) are famous among hardware enthusiasts because they feature an unlocked multiplier and fully adjustable core voltages. This makes them function almost identically to consumer Core i7 Extreme Edition processors (like the Core i7-4960X) from the same Ivy Bridge-E era. [1, 2, 3] However, whether you can actually change the voltage depends heavily on your motherboard and software: Motherboard Compatibility: To adjust the core voltage (and multiplier), you must use a consumer-grade X79 chipset motherboard with an unlocked BIOS (such as those from ASUS, Gigabyte, or ASRock). If you put this CPU in a standard server or workstation motherboard (like a Dell Precision or HP Z-series), the motherboard's BIOS will lock out all overclocking and voltage options. A couple of random thoughts... If you are applying the voltage change in Windoze using software, don't. Try in the BIOS only (if you have not already). If I remember correctly there was something like the BIOS and clocks had to be left on Auto in the BIOS if you were using Windoze software to make changes. This was too long ago for me to remember clearly. I think you had to decide one or the other. If you made setting in the BIOS using software would cause issue. If you still have the firmware and have not tried flashing it again, give that a try. Maybe something got corrupted and a re-flash will fix it. I am not sure how much more I can help just because so much time has past. I am lucky if I can remember what I had for dinner last night.

Nothing is locked on both Xeon and i7 EX. Everytime I hit apply, Windows throws a BSOD: iocbios2.sys. Yes I have the PremaMod bios as stated. It seems the latest one