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@JadeRover Yes I agree I thought that , but was interested to know your thoughts , if I could find a seller with an HP card that was prepared to flash 84.04.9B.00.14 onto it , would this correct the DP output and would I then be able to use an unmodified driver , I would assume yes , but am I missing anything ? Some mention a whitelist on the video cards and you need a Dell card to get past it , have you come across any issues with this , I appreciate the Micro code in Main BIOS is relevant for it to recognise the card but I can't see HP putting in Dell ID's and not HP ID's ? Unfortunately the seller listing above , confirmed he had no idea what vBIOS they had and it was a generic picture , so the sticker is irrelevant 😥 So my quest goes on 🤣 I am predominantly looking for Dell M3000M now with 84.04.9B.00.14 , as you suggested , but still would be interested on your thoughts on above as you have tried MXM cards in ZBooks etc.

Welp, I didn't receive anything this week but I got an update now and it says I'll receive the Backlight mod v2 cables on the 2nd June... I hope it's true... It's been in transit for 9 days

Ah, I see, you are using one of XMG's BIOSes. I have those on file, I just have not flashed them because my computer has been working very well with the original BIOS from Origin PC. And it's unfortunate that you lose the logo if you use a different BIOS. There is a way to change the boot up logo, or at least I read a topic on that at the Winraid forums if I remember correctly, but it seemed a bit complicated and you have to know something about how to edit the UEFI, and I only half-way understood it. I just don't know enough so I have not attempted anything --- I don't want to end up with a bricked machine, no one does. My recommendation is to NOT go back to Origin PC's BIOS, you will likely lose the new Secure Boot certificates and end up where I am now. Your answer is quite helpful: it tells me that the XMG BIOS will let the new certificates be installed. But it does come at the cost of losing a BIOS that works perfectly well. On the other hand, everyone has good things to say about XMG's bios.

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Hello, Yes luckily M3000m is getting really cheap, I got mine for 70 euros last year, now the price has dropped ! Probably the best price to performance card you can get for a working MXM card with little hassle (it also has LVDS support for even older MXM laptops). I would get the "for DELL" version. I had gotten mine from aliexpress for my precision m6700 that also has eDP on DP_D (just like your system) it was branded "for DELL" as well and it did have the correct display outputs set in the vbios. It was plug and play and my internal LCD worked properly, I didn't check the display port but I assume it works as well. - I think "for HP" is for the zbook 17 g3 that these cards originally came from where you have eDP on DP_C -> You would have the problem you had previously of diplay output mismatch. - I think "for DELL" is for dell precision 7710 that these cards where shipped in as well. That laptop has eDP on DP_D -> Would fix your problem. Good luck ! You can always sell your old card for probably the same price you got it for on ebay.

I’m hopefully picking up an ASUS RTX 5080 Astral OC tomorrow for $1,300 cash. I’m going to try to negotiate a bit once I meet the guy. It’s about a 2 hr drive. But it’s an amazing deal. If the card is terrible for some odd reason, and not worthy over my Zotac Solid 5080, I can always sell the Astral 5080. Those 5080 Astrals are very nice. But new MSRP cost is CRAZY TALK!!! Edit: Anyone playing the game Crimson Desert? It’s actually really good.

Here's my CPU and BIOS: CPU Intel Core i7-11700K BIOS Version 1.07.09RTR6 Your system is literally a BEAST! I went to Origin website and downloaded their latest BIOS, I want to go back to Origin logo but I'm afraid of messing things up. 😔

I'd say all games benefit from frame gen, but the base framerate needs to be high enough that the latency between you moving your mouse and the action being reflected on the screen is low enough for the game to still feel responsive enough. This varies from person to person, and I'm on the high end, so I still need a base framerate in the hundreds for the game to feel responsive. The base framerate also needs to be high enough to minimize frame gen artifacts. Things start looking really wacky when you try interpolating to 300 fps while having a base framerate of only 15 fps.

Thanks , I do love the colours it gives , but the brightness can hurt the eyes , unfortunately it makes doing mods like this a pain. @JadeRover seems very clued up on how and why , reading back over the thread again , now I am at my PC. I think I may have to bite the bullet and get another card , this time a Dell one with vBIOS : 84.04.9B.00.14 , just wish I had the time to play / learn how to use a chip programmer and try the different vBIOS files that I have . @JadeRover I see a few sellers on Ali express list the M3000M with vBIOS version 84.04.9B.00.14 , they also give a choice of HP or Dell , I assume they brand the card in some way , am I better to get a Dell or HP branding , would either make loading drivers after this nightmare any easier is there a downside as I assume they can't change the PID/VID values or can they ?

Yes, this is it. Congratulations on the screen type. Take care of it, such LCD's are quite rare now.

I think this was the right screen shot you meant , PC loads the " HP Mobile Display Assistant " for Dreamcolor displays , and that only loads if you have a DC , it has the sticker on the screen trim saying HP Dreamcolor and I can flip from 8 to 10 bit support in AMD driver.

Last year, I bought a brand new, sealed M3000m designed for Dell Precision 7710/7720, which came with the stock BIOS 84.04.9B.00.14 (exactly the same as in the link to technopowerup site above), and it works on my 8770w without any issues. However, my screen isn't a DreamColor at all - it's ordinary N173FGE-LA3 (HD+, LVDS 40-pin). Are you sure you have a DC screen? What's the hardware ID for your screen (look in Device Manager, string MONITOR/xxxyyyy)?

Mostly using hybrid mode connected to 2x 1920x1080 24 inch ultra sharp monitors via DisplayPort or HDMI. We had some QHD and 4K monitors but it’s not the standard yet. 3D applications on external displays either displaying graphics or rendering although internal laptop panel is usually the primary display for me it’s mostly my email/ teams I have on that screen. we had some issues a while back with black screen on returning from sleep which meant unplugging the dock and plugging back in. I suffered from that but not seen in in atleast a month likely due to some recent updates. Ultimately keep on at support at some point you will likely have to play the game of resetting windows to prove it’s not a windows/ your environment causing the issue but needs to be escalated if they can’t solve it!

I like the QHD option. I saw a FullHD option too on the 18" model but it was only for the 285hx as far as I could see. 9955HX3D would absolutely rip at 1080p but that resolution might be a bit too low. I'll have to put the Raider back on my list as it seems to check all the boxes. The one big hangup I had with it was potentially only having the 4k display option as I prefer QHD or FHD. Nice that MSI is selling directly through BB marketplace so you can get that 5% in rewards too. I figured you weren't going to go cold turkey across the board @Papusan! 🤣 I think that might be my first 5090FE burning up with the original tentacle. He seems to have been doing his due diligence too from leaving it plugged in even during GPU swaps to always giving it a check to make sure it was seated. Hmmm..... No one is safe from this catastrophe of a connector. If only he had invested in a Wireview Pro 2..... 🤣 Nice insight, thanks! (Looks over at shelf with extra Red Devil 9070xt sitting there bored).... I just need to find games I would play that really benefit from FG

Thank you all for the replies and ideas . I didn't reply earlier as I hadn't ticked notify me of any replies on thread via email , of the joys of getting older 😁 I agree that its probably an eDP/LVDS issue related to vBIOS but how can I find which vBIOS will work with M3000M on my HP 8770w with a Dreamcolor screen . I have tried another card from HP with vBIOS version 84.04.9B.00.07 , still exactly the same as before , returning to the AMD Firepro M4000 everything works fine. I get no crazy fan activity , it seems to act exactly as it should . This vBIOS is what I have seen suggested , even EUROCOM replied to my email and suggested this vBIOS number 84.04.9B.00.07 , I have emailed back and said " Dreamcolor compatible " hoping they can maybe help with a different version number . TechPowerUp who host some video bios files suggest compatibility with Hp 8770w ( But never mention Dreamcolor ) they have vBIOS for the M3000M but its a Dell 84.04.9B.00.07 not an HP one, they also have a Boosted up version of Dell vBIOS 84.04.9B.00.07 with better specs etc that mentions it works on HP 8770w but DO NOT mention DC screen 😐 They are it seems a lot of the time using that vBIOS with a Dell M3000M ( Are Dell cards physically different ? ) There are also Dell 7710 cards that have vBIOS 84.04.9B.00.14 on eBay that some have working on the 8770w , but I can't find anyone that specifically says : HP 8770w + Nvidia M3000M + Dreamcolor = vBIOS number xx.xx.xx.xx.xx 😤 I don't have a clip and IC program to change vBIOS or a Desktop , and would prefer not to go that route if possible , and having no display whatsoever means using NvFlash from a USB key would have to be done blind , which I definitely ain't confident to do. Anyone got some ideas on which vBIOS version I need or whether it is better to be a Dell card or HP , or is it get a Dell card with 84.04.9B.00.07 or 84.04.9B.00.14 and try them as neither HP ones I've tried work ? I was just hoping I could get a real HP card to work so drivers would be easier to do. HP says the M3000M will work in a 8770w as shown below , but they do not mention DC screen might have an issue , without a specific vBIOS , so is it the DC thats causing me issues or just the fact its a M3000M with wrong vBIOS for 8770w , irrespective of screen ? ................................................................................................................................................................. TITLE: NVIDIA Video Driver and Control Panel VERSION: 385.73 REV: T PASS: 1 DESCRIPTION: This package provides the NVIDIA video drivers and Control Panel for the supported notebook model that are running a supported operating system. PURPOSE: Critical SOFTPAQ FILE NAME: SP82366.exe SOFTPAQ MD5: d56de020bd6f245c603e005b4acb6920 SUPERSEDES: SP82365 EFFECTIVE DATE: October 20, 2017 CATEGORY: Driver-Graphics SSM SUPPORTED: Yes PRODUCT TYPE(S): Notebooks HARDWARE PRODUCT MODEL(S): HP ZBook 17 G2 Mobile Workstation HP ZBook 17 Mobile Workstation HP EliteBook 8770w Mobile Workstation HP ZBook 15 G2 Mobile Workstation HP EliteBook 8570w Mobile Workstation HP ZBook 15 Mobile Workstation OPERATING SYSTEM(S): Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 8 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Microsoft Windows 8.1 LANGUAGE(S): Global DEVICES SUPPORTED: NVIDIA NVS 3100M NVIDIA NVS 5100 NVIDIA NVS 510M NVIDIA Quadro 1000M NVIDIA Quadro 2000M NVIDIA Quadro 3000M NVIDIA Quadro 4000M NVIDIA Quadro 5000M NVIDIA Quadro 5010M NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M NVIDIA Quadro FX 1800M NVIDIA Quadro FX 2700M NVIDIA Quadro FX 2800M NVIDIA Quadro FX 3600M NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800M NVIDIA Quadro FX 380M NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M NVIDIA Quadro K1000M NVIDIA Quadro K1100M NVIDIA Quadro K2000M NVIDIA Quadro K2100M NVIDIA Quadro K2200M NVIDIA Quadro K3000M NVIDIA Quadro K3100M NVIDIA Quadro K4000M NVIDIA Quadro K4100M NVIDIA Quadro K5000M NVIDIA Quadro K5100M NVIDIA Quadro K610M NVIDIA Quadro M1000M NVIDIA Quadro M2000M NVIDIA Quadro M3000M NVIDIA Quadro M4000M NVIDIA Quadro M5000M NVIDIA Quadro M600M ENHANCEMENTS: - Provides enhanced security for the graphics driver. PREREQUISITES: HOW TO USE: 1. Download the file by clicking the Download or Obtain Software button and saving the file to a folder on your hard drive (make a note of the folder where the downloaded file is saved). 2. Double-click the downloaded file and follow the on-screen instructions. Copyright Copyright (c) 2017 HP Development Company, L.P. .............................................................................................................................................................

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You can buy and install a Dell m5000m graphics card, and you won’t have to mess around with the video BIOS or modify the cooling system. If you want, you can replace the fans with higher-performance ones from the Alienware m14x R2, but some modifications will be required.

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You use them in defualt hybrid mode or switched them to direct? With what screens resolution? Do you diplay anything with rtx on external display? At both machines I posess screen connected with DP lose identity after wake up (and switches from 2k to fhd) Both computers disconnect docking station after attempt do display anything heavy weight (eg. any modern game) on external screen.

hi, first im sorry for the dead laptop. let's see what u can tell about the problem. 1) no light means no ec communication, or short circuit in the main 19volt rail. 2) burn smell: that'0s bad..... a overheated card do not smell that bad... they smell bad when they reach amost the burning temperature point. with these in mind, do you have a multimeter in your house ? does the psu light stay on when connecting them or the psu light goes off ? test with only one charger without the dual adapter.

Well, I’ve started diving into a small project to completely refurbish a GT60 that I repaired some time ago and that was honestly in terrible condition. It’s an Ivy Bridge 16F3 model, currently equipped with an i7-3920XM / 32 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 at 1866 MHz / GTX 1060 6 GB / 2x500 GB mSATA SSDs plus an additional 500 GB SATA SSD. I’m planning to try either a Quadro A4000 or A3000 in it depending on my budget. The first issue will obviously be the use of a custom heatsink. I asked Chichen to join the project and he’s really into it, so he’s currently studying a possible solution. While we’re at it, we’re also going to improve the cooling system for the i7-3920XM to try and achieve a decent overclock on it. I also ordered a higher-quality TN panel to replace the stock LG display, which had a few dark spots. I chose a B156HW01 V7, which is one of the best 40-pin LVDS panels available. I don’t know if better options exist, or even whether LVDS/eDP converters would properly work to get an IPS panel, so I’d rather stick with a plug-and-play solution. The laptop will use a 240W power supply and is also running a custom unlocked BIOS and custom EC firmware by Svet from MSI. So now we’ll see whether a Quadro A4000 can perform better than RTX 4060 or 4070 mods. I just need to find the money to fund one by selling a few things first!

I think the GPU portion is software-limited. From what I remember in the leaked promotional materials, the PM16P has a 170 W system TDP, while the PM18P has a 200 W system TDP. In my use case, the GPU does not get very hot, but it still stays around 145–150 W under sustained workloads. As you mentioned, the 18-inch model can stay at 175 W for a longer period. So my guess is that the firmware dynamically manages the power split between the GPU and CPU based on the hard-coded system TDP limit.

Today I received another PM16P without the touchscreen option (no quick access bottom door). To my surprise, the top case color is not exactly the same as my other one; one looks slightly off. Another difference is that the surface finish also feels different (for all surfaces, including top case, bottom case, and palmrest): one feels more textured, while the other feels smoother. I’m not sure why this is the case. Maybe it is due to differences in production batches or manufacturing locations. The touchscreen model was made in China, while the new non-touchscreen one was made in Vietnam.

Hi all, was recommended to make a post here. Apparently there might be some old members from NBR which used to discuss about these machines many years ago? I’m looking to hear from those who have installed a GTX 970 or 980 into one of these fine M15X rigs in the past. If so what was the process of getting everything working nicely? From doing some research apparently you need to do a copper shim mod, installation of a modded gpu driver alongside a vbios mod to stop the card drawing too much power? I think it’s around 80 - 90 watts the card should be pulling once setup to help with longevity. I will also be installing some upgraded fans which provide better CFM (used oem dell fans which should be a drop in upgrade into the original fan enclosure) this is mainly to help with thermals even if it’s a couple degrees. I plan on installing a i7 940XM and will also be doing some overclocking. I do have a genuine dell 240w charger to help with these upgrades which I plan on purchasing in a couple days. Any help regarding the gpus / or unmentioned mods & upgrades would be very much appreciated! Thank you 👍🏼

So... I downloaded the (previously) unlisted BIOS for the EON17-X (X170KM) from ORIGIN PC's website, and though it is supposed to be the exact same BIOS on my machine, I decided to flash the download onto my PC (just in case the BIOS on my computer had been modified or corrupted somehow), which I did under the EFI shell to avoid any potential complications from Windows processes running in the background. Of course, everything went smoothly, but as I said, it's supposed to be the same BIOS. And it's still the same as above. The logs indicate the system tried to download the new secure boot certificates, and it's the exact same status: I'm exactly where I was.