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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
100% I do think Nvidia came up with this new standard because they could see: A> The writing on the wall in regards to power consumption and the idea of running 4+ 8 pin connectors wasn't feasible space wise which leads into... B> The rise of AI and multiple cards all using a single power cable for arrays of AI equipped Nvidia GPUs... The issue is the connector is problematic but again how many connectors do we see blowing up in AI farms running thousands of these cards? Too many variables on the end user front and I'm not saying the connector isn't chock full of fail (it most certainly is), but it is a big Venn Diagram of problematic connector to the left and user error to the right.... Best bet, again, is to run the tentacle or at least get a PSU that is the same brand as your card so if something blows up, the company can't point fingers elsewhere. It pains me to side with PNY on this one, but since PNY doesn't make PSUs, running the tentacle would have kept the warranty responsibility on them. Unfortunately in today's market it really is a good price and that is why they sold out ASAP. 😞 And yes, for personal AI work, I would take a 5060 Ti 16GB over a 9070 XT atm.... As for cables, while that sucks, the warranty chain is entirely on MSI and yet again a reason to make sure to use the included adapter with your card or at least use a PSU that is from the same 5090 AIB so any melting connector issues are entirely on them. If you are using a 5090 with a third party power cable for vanity sake then things can get muddled when something melts down. Many times it isn't even the 12vhpwr connector itself but cable that blows and takes your connector with it. Again, I ran the tentacle religiously on my 4090 and 5090 till the WV2Pro AND getting an MSI 1600w PSU. How ya feeling these days @Papusan? Health on the mend and getting better? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Somehow Gigabyte shanked it with their 16" 9955HX3D 2026 laptops (they opted to replace Intel with this refresh from their 2025 variants). Insanely loud fans, subpar performance..... But as the game performance charts show, when X3D shines, it insanely shines. Part of this is due to some games loving that cache. The other part is the absolutely atrocious memory settings and adjustability on 15th gen Intel laptops.... Some OC controls in the BIOS but no CO offset like MSI and Asus.... Timestamped for 9955HX3D vs 275HX -
Hello. I brought the modified heatsink, FPC cable, and X-bracket from the mainland warehouse. When I try to fit them together, the holes on the heatsink and the X-bracket do not align. Also, I haven't applied a thermal pad to this heatsink. Would applying one resolve the issue?
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
SuperMG replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Yes, you can use any RTX 3070/3080/4060/4070/4080 on this laptop with the backlight mod v2 in PEG. I use RTX 4070 on my M4800. The P5000 won't work in your laptop unless you have the eDP DP_D VBIOS that patches the ACPI error. - Yesterday
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
AaronD replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Hardly matters at this point. You'll get what you'll get, and you'll evaluate it then. Stress test or benchmark if you like; I didn't bother with mine, just went straight to using it. Pass/fail regardless. Pass=keep, fail=physical undo. -
Windows 10 exposes Windows 11: nine months of updates reveal more flaws in the OS Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft has a rather worrying problem with Windows 11, one it hasn't quite resolved, at least if it wants to convince us to switch operating systems. The first thing they should be looking at in Redmond is ensuring their updates inspire confidence, and the 2026 update history certainly doesn't help matters. A review of the patches released between January and September of this year shows Windows 10 ahead in stability compared to Windows 11 in 2026, with fewer documented issues than its successor. The system that should justify the upgrade is giving us too many reasons to stay put.
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Windows 10 exposes Windows 11: nine months of updates reveal more flaws in the OS Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft has a rather worrying problem with Windows 11, one it hasn't quite resolved, at least if it wants to convince us to switch operating systems. The first thing they should be looking at in Redmond is ensuring their updates inspire confidence, and the 2026 update history certainly doesn't help matters. A review of the patches released between January and September of this year shows Windows 10 ahead in stability compared to Windows 11 in 2026 , with fewer documented issues than its successor. The system that should justify the upgrade is giving us too many reasons to stay put.
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Hi, this might sound a little weird, but I’ve already encountered something similar a few times and when I wasn’t completely sure if reballing would help, I put the card in an electric oven for 10 minutes at 180 °C. Maybe the artifacts will disappear then. But it’s also possible that one of the memory chips is defective. The GPU core temperature might be very low, but that doesn’t mean the VRAM temperature is the same.
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
BoheN replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Okay i think i have good news, i disassembled the laptop, took out the heatsinks(to dremel tomorrow) and my K4100 gpu(dell service tag component site lied about that too i guess), after that i saw some suspicious looking cable labeled eDP going from my screen into the mobo, i pulled it out and it goes into the JEDP1, so i guess i do have eDP and Dell service code components page lied to me. Is that good news? should the P5000 (which is already on the way) work even better now? (here is my board model if thats maybe revelant at all) -
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can be bad chip, but so many of them went bad ? maybe core problem.... try reballing it.
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
MODDER1 replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Hi @Vladka76, thanks for the guidance, i will definitly run back this Test with parameter you said. In fact the test was not so long, then i think it's as you say, it did not test everything like it should have for this type of problem. Thanks a lot and good luck to me!- 432 replies
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I have a clevo p870tm with a modded vapour chamber heatsink with the 4 arms adapter to support rtx 3080 it’s a second gpu which i bought from the same seller on ebay the first one worked without no issues before i cracked it
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What do you guys think? Could this be a problem with something else besides the graphics card?
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can be bad mxm slot ( is taht the one with vapor chamber ?) or is this one where u put other vga like 980 mxm and so on ? before conclusion tell us if u have more notebook or just one... notebook pwoer off can be cpu overclock..... try a stable multiplyer for 4.2ghz ....
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Your card has broken solder connections between the core and vram. It either needs to be repaired or replaced.
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Hello everyone The laptop suddenly loses power while I’m playing games, as if I had unplugged the charger from the laptop while the battery is not installed. What could be causing this problem?
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
harkaz replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
I also tried with PCI express for PGI to Gen3 and Force x8 - in order to start with PCIex8 always in P775TM1. Same behavior. Not a PCI express bus issue. Most likely caused by a failure of the UEFI component of the graphics card to load with 128GB DRAM. -
There was an update to the CLEVOCO.FnhotkeysandOSD app that I just installed yesterday from the Microsoft Store. Now, the CCDCHUService (Control Center Hotkey Service) can't start and gives the following error in the Application log in the Event Viewer: Service cannot be started. System.IO.FileNotFoundException: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\CLEVOCO.FnhotkeysandOSD_7.88.1.0_x64__6h6z29zh29qx0\FnKey\DCHU\LaunchFnkey.exe at System.Diagnostics.FileVersionInfo.GetVersionInfo(String fileName) at DCHUService.Service1.GetLaunchFnkeyVersionFromUWP(String fileName) at DCHUService.Service1.IsLaunchFnKeyNeedToUpdate(String FnkeyPathFromUWP) at DCHUService.Service1.ExecuteLaunchFnKey(Boolean isSessionChange) at DCHUService.Service1.OnStart(String[] args) at System.ServiceProcess.ServiceBase.ServiceQueuedMainCallback(Object state) Anyone else experiencing this? The ramifications are that none of the Clevo apps can do anything without that service running.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Does this mean this below is a steal? There is buyers out there, no doubt. But for $6000 and above? Not ordinary buyers for sure. 5090 is someone's only chance to get close to a "real" AI/workstation cards below $10K🙄 10,000 Walmart shoppers added a $4,299 RTX 5090 to their cart before it sold out The GPU Madness Has Come to This: 9070 XT vs. 5060 Ti 16GB GPU Pricing Has Turned a Ridiculous Comparison Into a Real Buying Decision As I understand it, and please note that I am far from an expert on this AI stuff, there is significantly greater demand for the RTX 5060 Ti 16GB than the Radeon RX 9070 XT among users running AI workloads locally. And the US introduced chip ban is a joke... Nvidia knows it very well. They have no intention to guide their AIC partners what they should or not. DeepSeek is devouring RTX 5090s for AI in China: stock is disappearing and prices are skyrocketing across the market Buying an NVIDIA RTX 5090 is becoming a virtually impossible mission, and the problem is no longer just gamers looking for the fastest gaming graphics card on the market. DeepSeek has turned NVIDIA's consumer GPUs into... Herein lies the problem. US restrictions have limited China's access to NVIDIA's most powerful accelerators, while DeepSeek R1 is heavily optimized for NVIDIA hardware and software . When you can't buy enough accelerators specifically designed for AI, the next option is fairly obvious: look to gaming GPUs. AMD denies direct sales of restricted chips to China after Dylan Patel calls for an investigation into the company for "treason" AMD denies direct supply and points to diversions by third parties Yup, you really need the two layer warranty claim protection on MSI cards... Because their yellow fire cracker is doomed to fail. And how easy is it for people ta ask for new 4 headed dongle from MSI if you see problems (when you see or measure uneven pin load) before they turn into the usual brown and black? Or do you need to use the yellow pig until it melts before they will send you working replacements? Hmmmm, fun times dealing with modern/cutting edge tech🤮 I think you should be safe at least with Asus. Nine brands responded on whether it’s better to use a native 12V-2×6 cable or the bundled GPU adapter Recommend the bundled adapter (the cable that ships with the graphics card) ASUS: “The included GPU adaptor is recommended for the best usage experience…” MSI: “MSI officially recommend using the adaptor provided with the graphics card.” GIGABYTE: “We strongly recommend using the original cable... RTX 5090 12V-2×6 connector reaches 91.7°C with DLSS 5, 16-pin input peaks at 647W -
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
If it were up to me, NVIDIA would be legally bound and on the hook for all of the costs and footing the entire bill across the board for all GPU and PSU connector meltdowns, with no room for exceptions or fine print exclusions, because they are the idiots that ushered in the crappified connector and gave the OEMs an ultimatum requiring them to use an engineering abortion. If that were true, I suspect it would no longer be used and everyone would be back to using legacy 8-pin PCIe power connectors. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
They do have a point, though..... It is one reason I purposely used the MSI included 4 headed dongle of death originally with my Vanguard and my Suprim 4090 because if anything were to go wrong, it is on MSI. Worst case, the connector melts. Best case, just one of the tentacles (or more) melts down which is an easy replacement. Either way, the entire chain is on MSI. Now I use an actual MSI PSU AND a WV2Pro with two layers of warranty claim protection if my 5090 goes POOF! In this case, what caused it? The connector? The Asrock Cable/PSU? Both? Looking at the pictures, it appears to be an Asrock issue as it is burned on BOTH ends. Not that it doesn't suck, but I'm going to agree with PNY on this one and the owner now needs to go after Asrock and loop them in on the claim and see where things settle. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
5090 resell prices are reaching peak insanity: Current bidding on a 5090 Vanguard on eBay hit $7k @tps3443 last few 5090 FEs sold went for ~$6k!! Average selling price is $6k+ and climbing.... In a few Facebook PC hardware groups discussions, those selling their 5090s are literally putting them up for ~$6k and selling immediately paid in cash or zelle. We all know where they are going, but still...... To say the temptation to sell my 5090 Vanguard isn't strong would be a lie 🤣 At this rate, I would basically be swapping my 5090 for a Mac Studio Ultra.... But the question is, can I be happy with the massive drop in performance vs my $988 5080 or $720 9070xt? If you sell your 5090, you're basically resigning yourself to the 5080 or 9070xt moving forward for the next ~2 years and depending on how the 6000 series pans out, it could be longer.... ------------------------------------------------------------- WoW Forever is a hot mess on Macs atm so devs have a lot of work ahead of them considering retail runs decent on the M4 Max. I picked up the Forever Edition since I have oodles of in game gold sitting there and just converted a chunk of it to real $$$. I've done this for the last I think 4 Xpacs? Mac Mini M4 (10 GPU cores): Macbook Pro M5 Max (40 GPU cores): ------------------------------------------------------------ Yeah, I am still accumulating parts / waiting for a few back ordered parts for my AM5/5080 SFF buildout, but right now the G16 is really checking all the boxes. I could see downsizing to just the Clevo PE60 at this point. I saw a few more 9950HX3D/5090 raiders pop up on eBay but at the moment I've lost my zest for them with the Asus atm. Are you going to play WoW Forever? I am, but the wife isn't feeling it as retail is her comfort zone. Even with the QoL improvements, it is still vanilla / classic so it might be a little too hardcore for her so we will see. ------------------------------------------------------------ Always a chance you take when you purchased open box / used items, but even laptops being stripped of their memory and SSDs: https://wccftech.com/msi-vector-a18-hx-amazon-listing-32gb-ram-ssd-missing/ -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
This is nice... Double trouble and stupidity on top. What a combo. All PNY GPUs that require a 16-pin (12VHPWR / 12V-2x6) input include a PNY-approved power cable or adapter in the box. This cable is the only configuration covered under warranty. If a third-party power cable, adapter, or PSU cable is used and damage occurs - including melting, burning, overheating, or deformation of the connector - PNY cannot accept the product under warranty. Damage caused by non-PNY cables falls under the responsibility of the manufacturer of that cable or power supply.