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This is very interesting. I had never thought of modifying the EDID of the panel to ensure compatibility but this is a good idea. Aren't these used to split a DP+/DP++ signal into DP and HDMi or DP and DP ? On all schematics I have seen, DP redrivers are never used for eDP connections, only mux switches between CPU eDP and GPU eDP. A good test would be to flash the EDID of the internal LCD with a standard DP display instead of eDP. I had done such a modification to the EDID of my Dream Color display inside my M6700 to enable 10 bit color depth, without this mod, the display couldn't be set to 10 bit color depth.
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Yes, that's right. DisplayPort + pins for controlling the LCD display = eDP (Embedded DisplayPort) The problem is that most older eDP LCD displays (with internal EDID EEPROM memory inside the LCD) only work with (standard or normal) DP. But newer GPU cards, which of course no longer have the settings for connecting to the primary internal display LCD (eDP settings) configured in the VBIOS automatically support newer generations of DP (usually DP++). So due to communication via AUX lines (similar to I2C serial communication) between the LCD and the graphics card, which is part of every DP connection a “black screen” issue occurs after installing the drivers. Newer-generation LCDs (with internal EDID EEPROM memory) (VESA v1.4a) should support DP++, however the laptop manufacturers usually prefer to play it safe and insert a so-called: DP-redriver between the LCD and eDP lines, which can usually be configured using resistors to ensure a wide range of compatibility. However, there is another option. Since LCD displays typically use standard i2c eeprom memory to store EDID data, which as I mentioned communicates via AUX (I²C) bus with the GPU this offers the possibility to experiment directly with the EDID itself (for example by changing its parameters). Various versions of EDID editors are available online some even include a function to generate a new EDID data (which generates new EEPROM content after entering the input parameters). For the purpose of determining these input parameters tools such as the DTD Calculator are useful it is also often included in some of the more sophisticated editors. or There is also the option to experiment using so-called “DisplayPort dongle emulators,” which contain nothing more than the previously mentioned standard 24CXX-type serial EEPROM with modified contents. I’m just trying to point out a possible way to try to rescue one of the disabled (unusable) DP_xx outputs. Yes, a long time ago I worked with electronics in cars for example: EDC and Me engine control units including even the very old (non-flashable) ones and many other components used in cars, so I have experience with SMD and even hybrid components sealed in gel that were used in VP fuel injection pumps. But that was really a long time ago. I gained a bit more experience with motherboards during the project to convert my AW M18x R2 from an LVDS to an eDP system. I’ve made a lot of mistakes during my experiments and damaged the motherboard many times and I’ve had to replace a lot of components. But every time I managed to bring it back to life even though it sometimes took a really long time. I agree, resistors, ceramic capacitors, CMOS logic, that’s true I know. Thank you for your support. Any advice is helpful.
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Alienware 17 R1 980m Upgrade - Which variant to buy?
mattalienware replied to mattalienware's topic in Alienware 17 and M17x
The card has arrived. Photos attached. I am going to try installing it now. Hopefully these are the correct steps? - Set bios to UEFI - Run DDU with shut down option - Replace card in mxm slot - Boot into bios and check if detected - If detected, boot into Windows - Install modded driver (since my device is a 17 R1 Ranger) - Test, and benchmark for fun If I have any issues I will reply here. Thank you kind people who still use this forum :).- 11 replies
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Yes, that is why a backlight mod will work, eDP = DP + backlight pins + firmware to control the backlight signals Did you manage to repair the M17x r3 motherboard ? It looks to have a lot of liquid damage, nothing impossible to fix, I assume you are already well based in SMD motherboard repairs. Usually water damage kills resistors and it can disable power stages by messing up pull up/down signals which is annoying to diagnose.
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Clevo P570WM MXM upgradability forum
segfault-bilibili2 replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
BufferMod said he never released the PCIe 3.0 patched BIOS. Only 64GB memory one is shared. I co-authored the PCIe 3.0 part as well however. If someday I could get a P570WM mainboard to experiment maybe I could try it out myself. - Yesterday
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This^, same goes with any HX processor, these are technically desktop CPUs in a laptop there are going to run hot especially when they're running at 100w. As a Lenovo Legion 7i pro owner, Its default performance mode sucks, It allows the CPU and GPU to runs to whatever wattage the game or app needs with its fan speeds running at only at 80-90% speeds not at maximum fan speeds even at high temps, I use its custom mode, you can control the CPU wattage to lower the temps without any performance difference and control the fan speeds, You can enable Silent Performance in the BIOS which changes its balance mode to silent performance mode which allows the GPU runs at its maximum wattage which the CPU only runs at 40w+ without any performance lost with lower temps and fan speeds, Great option for most people. Other options to look at is the HP Omen 16 MAX, HP constantly has sales on it. ASUS ROG Strix 16/18 (Non Scar) Sadly there are not many options that uses AMD HX3D CPUs. To answer your display question, OLED screens has the fastest response times by far and perfect for fast paced FPS games and more color accurate than IPS screens but they're glossy and reflective and not good in direct sunlight if you dont mind that, personally the pros outweighs the cons. Try to find last year models if you want to save money as this year gaming laptops and any PC in general are very expensive thanks to AI-induced RAM apocalypse going on. Maybe they'll be good sales during black friday/holiday season but i doubt it
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No, DP is the same on both platforms. The only difference is in the DP generation: DP, DP+ and DP++.
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DP works in eDP screens. My 3080 has DP on DP_D and 0 eDP line in the VBIOS. Backlight mod works on that. Is there a difference between laptop DP and desktop DP?
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Great, thanks for the support.
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If you don't want it, I can take it 😄 CPU generation is fine, even on sandy/ivy you can still use it fo rmany use cases. Note, because it is a desktop core, eDP backlight mod won't work either. Desktop cores do not have the eDP wired into the core. It can work as DP or in SG mode unless you do some hardware mod. I think it's a great idea to try this one, once you have finished repairing the R3, let me know and I will send you my updated bios and you can work from there.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
No need for retail channels. And many of the 5090's will never be listed for sale in any shops. They are already sold before they leave the factories. The grey market is huge in Asia. Chinese AI companies buy 1 million Nvidia gaming and workstation GPUs in a single year, report claims — export control-compliant chips flood the market to bridge gap in compute demand China is purportedly turning to Nvidia's gaming and workstation processors, which are compliant with U.S. export controls, repurposing them for AI. According to FT, the chips are "mostly" Nvidia's RTX Pro 6000D, RTX Pro 5000, and the RTX 5090, the latter of which is the best graphics card on the market for enthusiast gaming. Prices for 5090 has now exploded upwards here in Norway. Still no problem get one here but you pay $6400 (MSRP) for regardless model. 6 different models ready to ship and buy but they are priced equal whatsoever. Pick your poison. I expect all these will go as workstation cards. No gamer will buy them outside a few rare stupids. _________________________________________________________________________________ Hmmm. Intel saved by the big bLLC cache. Nova Lake ain't faster than the current Arrow Lake failure for gaming. That's not a good sign. What with games that don't rely so much on the big cache? Hmmm, not even on level with current gen vanilla Ryzen chips from last year. Nova Lake-S could encounter the same problem: cores waiting for data that ruin gaming performance. Intel Nova Lake would perform similarly to Arrow Lake in games: the bLLC versions would seek to justify the generational leap A new architecture can bring more powerful cores, even higher IPC or frequencies, and still deliver virtually the same FPS. How can this be realistic? It's difficult to square the circle, but that's the possibility that kopite7kimi has just put forward for Intel Nova Lake-S , claiming that its conventional versions would offer gaming performance quite similar to that of Arrow Lake-S -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
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Finally the new RTX MXM cards will work in our laptops!
SuperMG replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
New PRICE DROP! Please buy! Backlight mod v2 with PWM control: https://ebay.io/m/6xLqRv -
Hello. This card looks like an early sample or ES of the 5060 by looking at the VRMs. They took the B design rather than the A design. Well, anyway I’m pretty surprised that they used a desktop core here. I’ve never seen anything like this not even in a photo. Did you check the VBIOS? To find out the TDP and display settings? It looks like it has a 145+5W TDP, 3xDP, and 1xHDMI. The TDP power slider and fan RPM slider are available here too. Since this is an integrated graphics card, you need to enable the backlight pins and, if possible, add PWM brightness control. That's no problem for me. Is the 5060 model on par with the 4070? Hard to say. I think sliderfra has an eDP R3/R4 cable. Thanks, I already have it. My R4 has an RTX 3080 16 GB card in the PEG slot; there’s no need to upgrade it because of the processor and its lack of support for the latest instructions. So what would you recommend? Is this a waste of time? I’m just pointing out that if the modification is successful, it could then be implemented on other platforms with newer CPUs of course.Maybe this could be useful for the people here looking to the future.
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I have now flashed the DSanke ModBios. The new I5-9400F is working fine, but now I can’t install the driver for the original GTX 980. Systems says no compatible device found. Is it now like the old days that I have to mod the NVIDIA driver?
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Clevo P570WM can't overclock Xeon E5-1680 v2 to 4GHz and beyond
SuperMG replied to SuperMG's topic in Sager & Clevo
I dropped the core count to 6. I was able to reach 4.0GHz all cores and 4.1GHz single but crashes in TS bench. I raise voltage by +100mV but it still runs at 1.23V... But when I want to go higher than 4GHz, bios doesn't allow and restarts. Is the CPU a bad one? Never got any problems at 3.8GHz all cores Edit: switching from 6 cores mode back to 8 cores, destroyed the CPU! It does lots of error at 3.4GHZ!!! IN TS bench. Wow at least I paid like 30€ back then but wow. Guys, this CPU is dead yes? Or is the motherboard dead? -
Hello if someone wanna help me about the Xeon E5-1680 v2 overclocking issues: https://notebooktalk.net/topic/3205-clevo-p570wm-cant-overclock-xeon-e5-1680-v2-to-4ghz-and-beyond/#comment-69327
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Hello. I can't overclock this CPU to 4GHz and beyond. It's an unlocked 8 cores CPU for the X79 chipset. My laptop has dual fan and good heatsink for that CPU. It has the PremaMod V5 bios. I use the BIOS overclock ratio, it only shows 6 cores instead of 8. So I overclock all cores to 42x, 43x and even 50x but I'm stuck at 39x for single thread and 38x for multi-thread. The current limit is 165A and power limit is 200W. I use 2x330W PSU. I tried to use Intel XTU 4.1 and 5.1 but they all throw a blue screen of death "iocbios2.sys". I tried lower speed RAM and I still have the same issue. Why can't I get 4.0GHz and above like everyone else? I know two people who got 4.3GHz and 4.5GHz... how?
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The RTX 5090 is Already an RTX Pro GPU... The last and final true real high end gaming card was the RTX 4090. And you won't see similar again. And be careful with your 5090 card. If it breaks, you're left with an overpriced 5080 as your only alternative if gaming is what you use it for.... Because thats the only card you can afford or can buy. The 4 year old 4090 is close to $3000 in the used market. So not an option. Yup, there you have it. The 4090 was a great deal in the days🙂 I still have my 4090 HOF, and it’s going to stay in my possession. As well a great backup card for my 5090 if the worst happens. You never know with new modern tech (fragile, cost cuttings and all too expensive). - Last week
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Dept. of non-humanity. It's all getting scaringly good. When Heavy Metal Ruled the 70s
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Hmm. I got to looking at what that first video mentioned about REA and found some free clones of PhotoShop, Acrobat and Premier created using AI. Interesting. https://getartcraft.com/apps I am testing them and they seem pretty good. PhotoCraft seems to function the same as PhotoShop without the learning curve of Gimp or Krita. Available for Windows and Linux, installer or portable. -
No end yet :O) w8 & old Dell Latitude doing fine, zero problems. Browsing, light photo editing, streaming, bt music. Browsing, some website errors here and there but almost ok using Firefox Extended Support, still getting updates. Not bothered by security concerns, w8 surely of minimal interest as a target, in view of the 4 people still using it. Nice behaviour (!) from MS, Defender support continues.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Hopefully AI will make AI as a commodity a losing financial proposition and all of these clowns will end up broke and scrambling to keep the lights on. They're angling now to take away our hardware to make us all dependent rather than independent. That's probably one of the reasons 5090 is grossly overpriced and being taken away from consumers. If they don't stop it, open source will destroy their tech monopolies. I hope they fail and it ends badly for them all. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I have a ring for Jensen to kiss. It's called a sphincter. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I've been running the 9070xt and then the 5080 for over a week now as I slowly test and certified the Dark Hero "ready for deployment," and moved it into the Phanteks so I've kind of got used to playing WoW and Fallout on the Dark Hero with the 9850X3D running at 5600+ with the Corsair Vengeance 9200 sticks tuned to 8000. The overall setup is basically a tighter, slightly faster refinement over my Hero + 9800X3D + TG 8200 sticks on all levels. I do like how the Dark Hero drops the primary GPU slot down another notch. It really centers the GPU in a nice way depending on case or gets it even closer to bottom fans for stronger air flow which will be the case when all this moves into the H9 Flow Then I slapped the 5090 back in there yesterday and was quickly brought back to reality just how much better it is overall in every way.... I'm also running the Lian Li 360 Lite now after having run the Noctua 420 for several days. The Lian Li actually fits up top on the Phanteks and after adjusting the pump curve (same as I had to do with Noctua) it is running just as quiet. Fans aren't as quiet but quiet enough. Continued testing back and forth and the Lian Li runs just as cool as the Noctua and both trounce all my other AIOs so I'm going to send back the Noctua as it isn't worth the $300 vs the $85 Lian Li with AM5 at least. I do need to set up an RMA with Asus to replace my x870e Hero due to the flickering/dying RGB logo panel. Doesn't affect the board at all, but for resell it will put a dent in its value for those who care. 19 months of solid service handling 8000+ like a boss.... ----------------------------- Yeah, the sudden lack of 5090s on the shelf and price spike followed by the leak from a factory. Classic Jensen. Trust me, Jensen will continue to pillage the consumer sector to feed the AI segment as the GB203 full fat die is already used in the RTX 4500 with 32GB of memory. If that card was in greater demand on the level of GB202 cards, Jensen would have no problems gobbling up those dies. If Nvidia suddenly introduced let's say a RTX 4600 with the GB203 and 64GB of memory for $7500 and it became a smash hit being sucked up like the 090 / 6000 cards, 5080s would suddenly shoot to 2000+ to start if not more and stock would start to dwindle fast. ------------------------------------ 5080 24gb rumored for January as 5080 is discontinued and the 5090 goes through an "allocation change" vs a flat out discontinuation which makes sense in case the AI bubble collapses they can just go, "Hey AIBs! Look! GB202's are back!! Kiss the ring!" https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-5080-24gb-reportedly-launching-in-q1-2027-board-partners-still-waiting-for-details