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Little upgrade, after dissasembly of panel I put some thermal pad for big IC of DC board - I cut out plastic foil between lid and IC. Now panels seems to be cold, previously it was very hot to touch (especially on lower bezel). Will test more with higher brightness, but seems to help somewhat - I though previously that RGB backlight of DC screen was scorching.

That is strange. My WireView Pro 2 is showing my ASUS Prime 5080 idling at 15W. I wonder what it would do if you changed a different vBIOS on the Zotac? It might be the firmware. Unfortunately, a lot of Astral GPU owners that are focused on performance and overall results (including Astral 5090) are not impressed with their purchase. For the price they are charging for Astral 5090 it should be the equivalent of a Galax HOF, but it's far from it. It should have binned core and memory, but it doesn't. It is just fancy and expensive. Nothing more. Some have changed to something better that costs less and sold or returned their overprices Astral GPU. The black Astral 5090 also has goofy limitations on vBIOS cross flashing. The white Astral 5090 was made a little different and doesn't have the same issue. I think A$$zeus often overpromises, overcharges and under-delivers. They get away with it because the ROG fanboys often value form over function.

I’m just not as impressed with the 5080 Astral. I was expecting better. It’s a very nice looking GPU, and the dang card weighs a ton. I bought the Astral from a private party sealed/brand new. So no return policy with this one though unfortunately. It has proven to be very stable, I like the GPU software leveling feature, and per pin monitoring is. It doesn’t overclock all that much better than my Zotac’s maybe +50 more MHz, although it does send more voltage at 1075mv. My 5090FE would out clock all three 5080’s I have tested. I was expecting the 5080 to be the king of clocks over 5090. But it just hasn’t been this way. All three 5080’s landed around 3,142-3,187 at 4K using the 450w bios. Now, that’s not exactly a fair comparison. The 5090 was on water cooling, and it was shunted so it thought it was always pulling half power. My 5090 FE stock on air before shunt would run like 3,030-3,060Mhz depending on how demanding the 4K game was. so technically the 5080’s do clock well past that. 5080’s are all hitting PWR limits at 380’s watt range though. So they really need a shunt mod. They will pull more power but you have a heart monitor looking graph on the “PWR” area in MSI Afterburner, and that can cause latency spikes. The Astral definitely seems to be the best of the three overclocking wise. But it’s also running the coolest so that naturally will happen. I’m leaning towards keeping the Astral, unless someone buys it. I might go ahead and list the Zotac 5080 as well. And let fate decide! Whichever one sells I can keep the opposite lol. Also, one way to test your stock air cooled 5090 for max clocks to see how it would run “IF” shunted and on water. Go run Unigine Heaven at 1080P windowed auto fan speed, and start adding clocks in MSI AB, with HWinfo open, check the max reported clock speed during this period. Then subtract -70Mhz from that max. That clock speed is where it will land. I’m going to guess and say your MSI is probably a really good sample. I think your Astral probably was too. This method is nearly fool proof though.

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That $1k Zotac 5080 was all you needed in the here and now bro! I liked my overpriced Astral 5090, but it wasn't worth the $3399 I paid and remember it went back to BB on Day 59 of the 60 day return window for a good reason. The one I had was a 1.105 and I thought it was decent, but the $2064 open box Ventus was also 1.105v and matched it easily and the $1971 Vanguard 1.125v beat them both but you'll also remember I didn't care when buying because all I wanted was true MSRP. I hope you can return it because outside of aesthetics (I do love the way the Astrals look) and that monster cooler on the Astral 5090, I saved ~$1500 and ended up with a better card. Return it Block that Zotac $$$$ Win! I think I like the retro look because that really was in style back then. You would have to make the whole system retro to lock it in but it is $800 beans and in stock at Newegg. For $800 and aesthetics driving the narrative, I'd snag an open box Godlike or Apex for that price and pocket the difference. Unless there is true differentiation in features, it will be striking a balance between features and price. Greatest weight off my chest was returning that Astral 5090. Nvidia keeps hitting us with the shell game for raw performance uplift while tying to up sell us on DLSS/FG and whatever else they can use to boost performance without giving the middle and lower end of the market true performance leaps. Unfortunately it is hard for me to settle for nothing else but flagship models from either Nvidia or AMD especially with Nvidia and the performance delta between the 090 and 080 the last two generations has been so substantial. I'd like to say I'm going to skip the 6090, but if it provides a similar performance uplift (or more) over the 6080 like the 5090 over the 5080, this is me yet again: -------------------------------- Ah.... I mean, the Astral 5090 was perfection in so many ways except price. If you paid no more than ~$1300 for the Astral, I would keep it and sell the Zotac 5080 if possible depending on what the voltage and capability is on the Astral 5080. Where did the voltage top out? And yeah, that cooler is beefy AF. This generation, Suprim, Astral and Vanguard have the beefiest air coolers for the 5090s and they are behemoths.

I forgot my bios show the following data with my current bios: VGA: Unknown VBIOS Revision: 94.04.46.00.15 VBIOS Build Date: 02/05/21 And after 1 Minute, the FAN's go 100% and 1 more Minute it powers off the Clevo. The seller said the card is from a X170.

Hello P870 Community, is there anyone out there, that have the bios for P870TM + 3080 handy? I searched the whole forum and other websites, but I can't find the correct bios file. My bios is Dsanke 1.07.16 + EC 1.05.04. with i9 9900kf After I modded my vaporchamber with standard tools like angel grander, standing drilling maschine + 2mm drill + 8mm drill, and for the bracket adapter, I used the old 1080 back bracket and cutted of the "arms" with the M2 thread. Drilled a 2mm hole in all 4 "mini arms" and file down the M2 thread to 1mm as it is a bit to high and would not raise the GPU to the vaporchamber. Then I screw them to the 3080, so they "look" to the GPU-Die. I also used the electric nail file from my wife to make the 2mm hole in the arms a bit more to a oblong hole, so I had a little variable mounting position to meet the old 1080 mounts. I marked the picture with yellow marker where I have made my changes: everything is connected to the vaporchamber and should have propper contact after checking 3 times. Now I "only" need the bios with 3080 support ;-) It would be really nice if someone can send it to me. Best regards Mike

I bought this Astral from a Reseller on Marketplace who is local to me. It was sealed in the box. After I handed them the money, I opened it right in the spot to just confirm it was legit. And it definitely was, so I grabbed it. It’s a very nice 5080 though! It’s actually starting to grow on me. 😬 uh oh. 😂 I do like the cooler on it. Man, it runs like 58c full tilt overclock with its default 450w bios. And auto fans. My Zotac 5080’s are pretty good but horribly inefficient idling on the desktop. As a matter of fact, both Zotac 5080’s I tested idled at 30-40 watts. This Astral idles at 10-13 watts. That 5090 cooler on this thing is the real deal.

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Does anyone have the Prema mod bios for this laptop? I can't find it as Prema removed all the bios he had public. I tried dsanke but it won't work for whatever reason. Fans spin normally but its a black screen on both laptop and external display. When I flash normal BIOS Back it works just fine. If anyone could help with that id appreciate it.

It is certainly a matter of personal taste, maybe to some degree generational. I do not care for how it looks for the exact reason people that like it do like it. The copper, blue and white colors are why I do not care for it. I would prefer that everything would be black and not have any of the hokey LCD stuff on it. Some people may like it just for the element of novelty in a partially retro aesthetic, but I think modern motherboards are more aesthetically pleasing in general, unless you go with a naked PCB eyesore that has all of the components exposed. Those are universally ugly regardless of when they were made. When you go back to pre-X299 and Z390 days they were not particularly attractive components IMHO and they get progressively uglier as you go further back in years. Why are you selling it as like-new used instead of just returning it for a refund? Did you buy it from a place that has a customer-hostile return policy? I'm sorry you had to find out for yourself why @electrosoft and I have recommended against it buying the more expensive models. There is little or no reason for anyone to buy a more expensive 5080 or 5090 in terms of performance. There are some differences in quality, but they are minor compared to the inflated price of the models with modest differences that yield nothing in terms of performance. If you are going to put a waterblock on one, there is even less of a logical reason to pay for a more expensive model. Ignoring the substantial leap in performance for 5090 over 4090, NVIDIA 50-series GPUs in holistic terms are a pretty horribly overpriced alternative to 40-series in some ways. This is especially true of the SKUs below flagship XX90 models. A 3070 actually performs better than a 5060. The 5060 offers nothing outside of newer software features that NVIDIA made artificially incompatible with past generation hardware. That's inexcusable. But, post-COVID NVIDIA has become a very dishonest, despicable anti-customer company. Feature RTX 3070 (2020) RTX 5060 (2025) Architecture Ampere (8nm) Blackwell (5nm/4nm) CUDA Cores 5,888 3,840 Memory 8GB GDDR6 (256-bit) 8GB GDDR7 (128-bit) TDP 220W 145W DLSS Support DLSS 3.5 DLSS 4 (Multi-Frame Gen)

This isn’t a problem — a 9900K naturally runs around 100°C, and that’s not an issue. However, if you’re seeing severe thermal throttling, the problem is usually poor contact between the IHS and the heatsink, which you can fix using a thin copper shim. The best solution is upgrading to a 9900KS. You can check my post — with the 9900KS, temperatures under worst-case conditions reach only around 75 to 80°C. It might sound surprising, but due to power limiting, you can actually get higher performance with lower wattage and significantly lower temperatures.

Time spy test score Old Cpu 9900K: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/56481843 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Cpu 9900KS : https://www.3dmark.com/spy/64018720 After upgrading my Alienware Area-51m R1 to the Intel Core i9-9900KS, I noticed that almost every user who performed this upgrade experienced significant CPU performance degradation. Most reported Time Spy CPU scores were only between 8000 and 9000 points due to power limits, EDP throttling, BIOS limitations, and the lack of a proper 9900KS profile in the BIOS. I decided to fully optimize and tune the system manually. After testing multiple BIOS versions, tweaking hidden settings, optimizing memory timings, tuning power behavior, and creating a custom optimized profile for the 9900KS, I finally achieved a stable and fully optimized result. Previously, with the standard i9-9900K, the best temperature I recorded during Time Spy was 96°C. However, after upgrading to the i9-9900KS, the system delivered noticeably higher and more stable performance while running significantly cooler, with a maximum Time Spy temperature of only 71°C. My final Time Spy score reached 18,411 overall, with a CPU score of 11,206 — paired with an EVGA RTX 3080 Ti XC3 that scored 20,767 in graphics performance, which is currently the highest known CPU score achieved with an i9-9900KS on an Alienware Area-51m R1. What makes this result even more impressive is that the CPU maintains excellent temperatures and efficiency while delivering desktop-class performance inside a laptop platform. I compared the performance of my laptop using two processors, the 9900K and the 9900KS. You can see the temperature difference between both CPUs in the Time Spy benchmark. There is more than a 25°C temperature gap between these two processors on the Area-51M. The reason is the power limitation of the 9900KS. By undervolting with XTU, you can achieve higher performance at lower power consumption and significantly lower temperatures. The 9900KS on the Area-51M is power-limited by the BIOS. Since voltage profiles for the 9900KS are not defined in the BIOS, it only allows the CPU to use up to 130W. I am trying to remove this BIOS-imposed limitation. However, even with this 130W limit, you can still achieve significantly lower temperatures compared to the 9900K or any other processor, along with higher performance. If I can remove this limitation, I can increase the CPU score in the Time Spy cpu score benchmark up to 13,000. System highlights: Alienware Area-51m R1 Intel Core i9-9900KS Custom optimized BIOS/RU tuning DDR4-2666 overclock to 2933 CL17memory tuning Fully optimized thermal and power behavior Stable high-performance operation

I picked up a brand new 5080 Astral to play with. It’s pretty nice, and it was a good deal for a new Astral. It doesn’t do much over my Zotac Solid Core 5080 though. Other than running 20c cooler. I remember when I bought a MSI 4080 Super Expert and I didn’t really like it, and I swapped to a MSI 4080 Super Suprim OC. The difference was astronomical. It felt so much better, it overclocked better and even performed much better. I just loved the 4080S Suprim OC so much. Coming from the Zotac 5080, and popping in the Astral 5080, it feels like I have committed a sin and I almost feel guilty or nauseous. 😂 We’ll be seeing a like new Astral 5080 on marketplace here shortly. It’s a nice GPU. But I do not feel or notice a difference other than super low temps. And yes it’s freaking massive! I had to add (2) 45 degree fittings, and remove the flow meter for my CPU inlet tube to clear the width of the card. I’m not really digging the 5080 Astral OC as much as I thought I would.

Can anyone share a previous to 1.30 BIOS version, as this one keeps my DGPU always active and on 20W P0 on idle?

Le'm bleed bro @Mr. Fox. One by one until they are all gone. Broadcom loses over $315 billion in one day: not earning what you should thanks to AI comes at a high price. Broadcom has become a stark warning to the semiconductor industry about what happens when you fail to meet expectations in the artificial intelligence (AI) bubble.

Memory scaling with 270k with Buildzoid. Once you hit 8000, it really is much ado about nothing which is what I found testing the 265k from 6000->9000 but I do think he would eeek out a percent or two more tightening his timings but 8000->9000 really was much of nothing..... I settled on 8600 tight for the 265k with the Vengeance 9200 sticks on the Strix-A. -------------------------------------------------------------- When I read earlier this was running MediaTek Arm CPUs, I immediately checked out but I see what they're doing. This is the first salvo of Nvidia entering mainstream computing with their own chips and their own, future chips will be compatible. Nvidia is all in like AMD on CPU+GPU synergy (barf) moving forward and looks to slowly, but surely, replace x86 on the consumer desktop considering how much ARM has infiltrated just about every other level of the computing industry this was the next logical step. If Prism can deliver a proper Rosetta/Apple like experience, it will make the transition even easier. Nvidia also using their market cap, value, resources and AI everywhere to springboard into CPU dominance also makes sense. I really do believe x86 is slowly dying and has been for awhile. It is a slow death, but it is dying as we know it. The crucial point is Nvidia will need to deliver an Apple level ARM performance metric sooner than later to be taken seriously. M5 is an absolute beast of a chip and Apple properly splitting the GPU away from the CPU and retaining the UMA is a major turning point for future options. It isn't a coincidence they are suddenly, "in pockets" allowing Nvidia GPUs to now work with their hardware since Nvidia is still light years ahead of Apple's Metal M GPU technology. Like the video says, the grand plan is for their own in house CPUs but this gets the ball rolling. Like Apple with Intel for years while they worked on their M chips, then translation/rosetta for several years and finally sunsetting Rosetta. I would just focus on that well priced Zotac 5080 you picked up, block it and have a blast with it. You might be able to score a used one on the forums with a high voltage. Never hurts to put out a "WTB 5080 w/ 1.125v rating blah blah blah" The rate cards are being snapped up, ripped apart and slapped into blower style AI farms is insane. Like I said before, I am pretty sure your previous 5090FE was torn asunder and is prolly being abused in an AI farm somewhere in China atm..... Go back to my messages last July/August where I said over and over if you're looking to buy a 5090 NOW is the time because prices are going to start creeping up by mid Sept and then things are going to get crazy sooner than later. Resellers were absolutely flush with cards at that time and we had routine sales of 5090s hitting the $2k point or close to it. I remember a small run on 5090 TUFs for $1999.99 for a moment there too. Now? Good luck. We're ~1.5yrs into the 5090 life cycle and the way things are going this is most likely the halfway point with Nvidia ordered out for the next few years and when Rubin finally does launch, we'll get the 6080 on down for awhile before we even get a sniff of a 6090 and expect the 6080 to perform worse than the 5090 in raw performance. I absolutely love the throwback design of this and aesthetically, I would rock it in a heartbeat! All that copper is gorgeous and the old school blue/white accents brings it home. Not sure what case I would use to showcase it though.

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Yeah it’s very tough these days. 5080‘s are taking over lol. Too many of THEM! I did think about grabbing a PREMO 5080 to play with. Maybe an Astral or Master. Newegg has a $240 off promo on the Aorus Master ICE 5080. But that Astral looks great! Would like to try a 1.125v card, and see how that performs. Was thinking if I’m going to ride out on 5080, let’s make it a premium 5080. If you do sell your 5090 that’s it. These prices are insanity trying to grab another. I scour the internet everyday. Microcenter for $3,499+ Tax is probably the best bet for a Gaming OC 5090. That is an insane price you paid! It really is. The AI community has just hammered the 5090’s. It would be great if some sort of forced update crippled the 5090’s performance in AI. Maybe where if an AI workload is detected it only sees 8GB VRAM or something. 😂 I’m looking at eBay flooded with coreless cards and I’m shocked how GPU’s even got here. Could someone tell me what they think about this motherboard? I really like it!

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I upgraded the CPU to an Intel Core i9-9900KS. I originally had BIOS version 1.28 installed. In order to remove some limitations, I tested every BIOS version from 1.7.3 up to 1.28. My motherboard is the 2019 revision 2 model, and I had no issues downgrading the BIOS.