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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Don't give up on the one that only runs 2167 just yet. If the voltage suggestions I texted to you work you might be able to run 2200 FCLK stable. If they do not work, then I would choose CPU #1 that does run 2200 FCLK at 6400 C28. The 2200 FCLK is more important than the 6600 C30. That is because the FCLK is the frequency that connects the CCDs and IO die and being limited to 2167 is not ideal because it becomes a bottleneck that affect more things adversely than just being able to run a 200 MHz higher RAM frequency. Because these components are physically separate, they must communicate across the CPU package. FCLK dictates how fast data can travel between these chiplets. If FCLK is low, it creates a bottleneck where your memory sends data faster than the internal highway can handle. Conversely, pushing FCLK too high past its physical stability limits (usually a maximus of 2200 MHz on modern AM5 chips) results in audio crackling, USB dropouts, or total system crashes. Running high memory frequency on Ryzen has diminishing returns, especially on X3D chips. You are better off focusing on bandwidth, which is why 8000 2:1 is better than 6400 1:1. It allows more data to pass through in the same amount of time due to higher bandwidth. You will find that 6600 1:1, 8000 2:1 have similar benchmark scores, but 8000 2:1 is higher bandwidth and allows you to do a little further with performance. And, 2200 FCLK matters for both configurations. The CPU that can do 6600 C30 1:1 has a very strong IMC and a weak fabric. Stronger fabric trumps stronger IMC unless the IMC is really horrible. There is not going to be much difference between 6600 C30 and 6400 C28, but a 2167 FCLK would hold you back and probably have measurably higher latency. The fabric is sort of like a transmission. If you have a strong engine and a fragile transmission with the wrong gear ratios the strong engine is going to be of limited benefit because it cannot push the performance to the wheels where it matters most. - Today
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Do you sell this cpu? How much? My i7 9700k is trash it can only sustain 4.7 after a not so stable -100mv in windows, otherwise it will insanely edp other
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Me thinking Intel is going back to pump out more powa😀 Exactly as bro @Mr. Fox want. More to everyone😎 This is what intel need to do. Forget about lowest power possible. Win for every costs. If the cores and cache need more power, then let it get what it needs. And stop make desktop processors from power efficient mobile crap. Leak Confirms Intel's Long-Term Socket Plan with LGA-1954 Intel's "Nova Lake-S" desktop processors are drawing nearer, and today a leaked partner slide from China confirmed many of the plans we anticipated. Starting with the LGA-1954 socket, Intel's testing tools had already verified the pin count. This slide not only confirms the pin count but also introduces a small detail about it. In the bottom left corner, there is a disclaimer stating that Intel plans to keep the LGA-1954 socket for multiple generations. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
tps3443 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
So, I was worried this would happen lol. I am testing the 2nd 9950X3D2, and it has a “Superman” IMC. Even stronger than the other one. This one runs 6600c30 1:1 without any fuss, but only 2,167 FCLK. So now I have a choice to make. #1 (9950X3D2) 2200fclk@ 6400c28 1:1 Easy Mode SP118. #2 (9950X3D2) 2167fclk@ 6600c30 1:1 Easy Mode SP118. 🤔 -
even the temps being reasonable i need insane undervolt of -106mv to have stable 4.7ghz, i seen mfs rocking i9 9900k's at 5ghz here, whats wrong with my puter? Everything it edp others the shit out of my clock And I can push 187W and 140A at the cpu btw
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I went from 115w 1800mhz-1900peaks To stable 1950mhz stable and 2020 stable depending on the game and 153watts
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I enjoyed this video. He states a lot of known truths from memory makers purposely constricting supply. Honestly I don't blame them with past precedent showing over production = collapsed markets. I think they know the AI market is tenuous at this point and to go all in could result in a massive collapse. I do think they are spring boarding off of the AI bubble with tightly controlled production to um "re-imagine" the consumer market pricing by overly constricting supply. There has to be a balance in there somewhere. Time will tell because right now memory is in stock everywhere in droves. Consumers aren't buying at these prices. Nvidia marginalizing gaming into edge computing because AI is the big thing right now I hope it bites them in the arse down the road but I suspect it won't because Nvidia is branching out into serious CPU production and other markets. Nvidia will be the final push that starts to seriously effect Intel and AMD's CPU production segment. All I'm saying is Intel better stay the course with their GPU division like AMD has to fall back upon. They need a two pronged attack while they continue to figure out a way to get their legacy x86 architecture modernized to compete against the M and M like chips coming into their own. "The craft builder is not really going anywhere because their reason to build was never the price and you can't price out a reason that was never about price." This is spot on. We build and tinker for the love of it. His comparison of craft builders vs necessity builders was very valid. He is also on point with the crowd that buys pre built because they just want to plug it in and go and how many who used to like to tinker have transitioned to this crowd. I have SO many life long friends and gaming buddies who used to get in the trenches to build and tweak their rigs to play Quake and Unreal Tournament and early days of WoW who just don't have the time or updated skill sets to build and tweak anymore and when problems arise they get immediately flustered and frustrated and usually turn to me for help where before we shared knowledge and ate our own chow. I think I have one friend left from the early days (circa 90s) who still insists on building his own rig. The rest either go pre-built, a laptop or have switched to Apple. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Anyone who doesn't think 13th and 14th can still bring the pain where applicable is in denial. Dufus is stuck on bad testing and data gathering while asking us to "trust me bro" on the "feel" of games and a lack of consistency. I'm not saying there isn't some validity to what he is claiming, but he has built his entire brand around dry humping Socket 1700. But, as someone who still runs all three and routinely swaps and tests with them even now, Socket 1700 is showing its age. The most recent updates to Agesa (ugh) and gaming as a whole, all that dippity dip dip in WoW is basically gone at this point and remember, I was one of the early ones who was calling it out in the old forums and maybe even here with the 7800X3D vs 13900KS in WoW where there was some absolutely atrocious spots of it that are now gone. Even when I go back to my old "dip" spots to test that is streaming in assets at a high volume, the dip is no longer present. Best case, Socket 1700 is still a ripper in games that can't take advantage of X3D and doesn't pull a lot of power. Worse case, it is a very hot and heavy running CPU that gets left in the dust in games that love X3D while pulling 200w+. Intel badly needs a light and nimble 8 core / 16 thread large cache enabled CPU that doesn't suck down a metric ton of power to game and own. That's it. No more ; no less. I do think we will get that with Nova Lake as even Intel finally realizes they can't compete overall without a big 'ole chunk of cache. Nova Lake new architecture + bLLC is going to be an absolute wrecking ball. It is literally the #1 reason I am holding onto these Corsair Vengeance 9200 sticks to pick up a MB + CPU as soon as I get the ok from @Talon 🤣 ------------------------------------------------------------ Nvidia keeps pushing up pricing to protect margins and profit because quite honestly if the margins aren't there they won't stay engaged in even supplying to the gaming sector since we're now a blip in edge computing to them. Their objective is to keep pushing AI till they're blue in the face.... What's the alternative? People aren't buying 9070xt even though it is competitive against both the 5070ti and 5080. If the current pricing travesties won't push buyers to AMD, nothing will. -
I sell one but I don't think you have the money for one. And shipping to the middle east sounds expensive and dangerous
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@SuperMG Hello friend Where I could get my hands on a Turing or ADA GPUs like your magnificent setup
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Hi, I saw your mention of soft touch plastics, you can clean off the coating with petrol and a rag. this works for most of the horrible soft touch coatings when they go bad
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Why change only for the change and pay more? The 4 year old Raptor Lake (Refresh) is still a viable processor. Yup, old doesn't always mean worse or bad value. And it can save you some money if you already have one🙂 Benchmarking 31 different CPUs in Onimusha: Way of the Sword The AMD's Intel moment....... AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Swells and Burns Again, This Time on an ASUS Crosshair X670E Hero -
Ai is the perfect tool. USA has come closer to China now. It goes in that direction bro @Mr. Fox This need to be stopped. Now, and before it's too late. Dallas garbage trucks are using AI cameras to flag code violations and give homes a "blight score" Privacy concerns and fears of unfair fines are fueling a backlash against the program WTF?! Want another reason why there's a big pushback against artificial intelligence? In Dallas, AI-powered cameras mounted on trash collection trucks are photographing properties and assigning them a "blight score" – a rating based on perceived code violations.
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@Aaron44126 Sheeesh, so much informative yet above my current experience, I think I should totally give up on it 🥲🥲
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Did you try using the powerful fans for P870? It's the same as the P775. There are lots of leaves which could give you +25CFM Do you know how to set a fixed voltage in the P870/P775? I can only set an undervolt. LLC is auto. I did -75mV for 4.9GHz all cores. I get 1.27V max reading in HWINFO for the cores at 4.9GHz with AVX -2 on the CPU-Z benchmark. CPU is 9900KF R0
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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-to-acquire-hugging-face/ It's now official. 13B USD seems a little bit excessive for a git repo. Of course, it is a very large repo, but still. Apart from that, the llama.cpp inference engine is being maintained by employees of HuggingFace. We'll see how that affects open weight LLMs in the next 18-24 months, but I am not optimist about the future of open weights - if open-weight LLM development continues at this pace, OpenAI and Anthropic and probably the US economy will face serious issues: AI "safety regulations" are just a legal pretext to control the pace of open LLM development. (See also: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/bill-gates-alarmed-by-ai-has-policy-ideas-he-wants-discuss-with-chinas-xi-2026-08-26/ )
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I experienced something similar on the Precision 7770. It wasn't because of thermal throttling from the GPU, but rather it was because the system was having trouble deciding whether it should prioritize the CPU or GPU for power, and whenever priority fell to the CPU, GPU performance (and the framerate) would take a notable hit. So, something to look into. If you're not seeing the GPU heating up to the point of throttling, this is likely NVIDIA Dynamic Boost doing its thing (wrongly). To note, I never "solved" this, though it is probably solvable. I was too frustrated by various aspects of the Precision 7770 (this, and other things) so I stopped using it as a daily driver.
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
as we are sourcing only PWM from CPU header (splitting only fan feed on mobo), we see both fans at equal speed, as the tacho pin isnt presented at 2nd fan (3-pin) (mainly due to the fact it confuses the mobo header) so its only CPU (4-pin) fan that would speed up and slow down. I know in GPU-Z it doesnt detect fan speed of either current and the "additional".- 417 replies
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
This isn't what is sounds like on the surface. Interesting take and I think I agree with it. -
About Windows LTSC (Windows 10/11 Enterprise LTSC)
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Windows
You should be able to upgrade from 10 Pro to 11 LTSC by switching "EditionID" to "EnterpriseS" in the registry, as described in the opening post. Note that Windows will periodically revert this value so you'll need to check it again if you get to the point of setup where it is not allowing you to upgrade in-place.- 187 replies
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Hi guys, just got my Dell Precision 7760 i7-11850H 32GB RTX 3080 16GB 240W charger But I see a problem when testing gaming, When I am standing still for this test not clicking anything doing anything, I get around 170fps it is a great result for a laptop, but after 2-3 minutes it drops to 80fps, then after 2-3 minutes it goes back to 170fps, then after few minutes again to 80fps, I can see temps and wattage in HWINFO so it is really hot and it is using a lot of power even 200W+ when 170fps but only 120W when dropping too 80fps I did all the updates drivers and so on, in bios I checked power option to not charge battery or whatever from what I see there are 2 problems, thermal throttling and power throttling so I set up throttle stop and after burn and set fps limit in my game (90fps), now my temps are great no thermal throttling at all but still after few minutes still laptop drops to 120W and my fps is way lower, I could technically limit my gpu and cpu and fps even more but what is the point of getting RTX 3080 and 11th gen i7 but limiting yourself to 60fps? now my question is am I unlucky with my 7760 or charger or both? Would getting 340W dell precision charger fix the issue or is it overall dell precision 7760 problem in keeping high watts? Could any1 tell me how long their laptops can keep 200W or even 180W? also where to buy 340W dell precision 7760 chargers?
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I looked into this and it seems it might not be possible due to how they keys are embeded in the system. I haven't gotten too deep into it as I have too many projects right now Unfortunately i don't have a m17xr4. I literally have all the others.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
@Reciever and @tps3443 if you don't already have it, download this modded version of ZenTimings. It was previously shared by @safedisk on HWBOT and OC.net and it has a few features the normal releases do not have, including memory temperature and power, WHEA error counter and CPU die temperature. The sensors for VDDIO typically do not work unless the BIOS is set to Auto for VDDIO, but this modded version may fix that as well. (It fixes it on my B850MPOWER.) This app functions portably. No installation nececessary other than the prompt to install PawnIO on first launch. (PawnIO must be installed or ZenTimings will not work. PawnIO is a replacement for WinRing0.) @tps3443 also check your Nitro settings to confirm the BIOS is automatically assigning them as 1/3/1 and manually correct if not (shown in ZenTimings). Make sure your Bank Refresh Mode is "Normal" (not "Mixed") and manually set it if not. This will make it so only tRFC is used. tRFC2 and tRFCsb/pb are not used in Normal mode. You can set them to "1" in Normal Bank Refresh mode, or not set them at all, and it doesn't matter since their values are ignored. In Mixed mode latency is higher and those values do matter. ZenTimings-v1.42.6.zip -
I hope that I can visit some day.