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Cost per performance is grossly in the 270k's favor vs both the 9950X3D and 9950X3D2..... Hey, at least MSI didn't angle it to the side like Sapphire did with the Nitro+ 9070xt introducing a needed bend to work in an already fragile connector...... -------------- I am on Intel's side with this one. Just like GPU optimizations where we sometimes have a clearly slower GPU like the 9070xt sometimes hanging with even the 5090 in some instances due to a lack of optimizations along with being optimized for AMD. Even if they went back to monolithic, that doesn't mean games couldn't be optimized to target the subtle (and not so subtle) nuances of each chip and quite frankly just in general. Too many sloppy ports not putting in the work till after release if at all.... Matrix is the sweet spot and I agree. WIth the WVP2, it gives you a sense of safety and monitoring both visually, audibly and within HWInfo. The wired shutdown function if desired is also nice. I do like seeing the little fan icon start to spin.... 5090 is clearly a beast as is vs 4090 and with the Matrix vBIOS it just extends that quite nicely. I do tend to run at stock during the warm times because the 5090 can quickly turn my computer room into a sauna just like the OC'd 4090 and 3090ti did. Plus WoW and FO76 rarely cap out the 5090 especially FO76. Who would want to DDOS notebooktalk? That's odd........

I have the monster!. Its a great laptop so far especially with its performance, build quality and its features but be very careful if you want to make upgrades to it. The 3rd fan wire on the 2nd heatsink is pretty fragile even after removing all of the screws of it. Even with my prytools i was unable to unplug it without breaking it but i still remove it enough to install my old SSD in the 2nd slot, Bad design choice on a premium laptop imo. The OLED panel is awesome for gamers and content creators, Sadly with all OLED panels they're very reflective in sunlight but worth it. The Vapor Chamber is very good and does its job well. The default performance mode is pretty toasty in certain games but enabling silent performance mode in the BIOS makes the GPU runs at near its full wattage on balance mode and makes the CPU runs cooler and less noisy fans without much FPS lost than in performance mode. You can always play around the settings in custom mode to your likings but i havent had the time to test it. You can undervolt with HX CPUs after updating the BIOS but again i havent test it.

It does support and works pretty well on Pro Max Plus.

This control centre has been deprecated. All settings for USB4 device(i.e., USB4 and USB4V2) have been moved to the USB submenu under Windows Settings. All CPU-integrated Thunderbolt 4 controllers (except for TigerLake CPU), and dedicated Thunderbolt 9000 series(TB4 & TB5) controllers are recognized as USB4/USB4V2 under Windows.

oh cmon, why even bother to attack our cozy little forum here....

Just stumbled upon this channel. Pretty lady and a pretty voice.

Was another ddos attack but things should be back to normal

It's a PNY Quadro RTX 3000. Yes DisplayPort output is working normally.

You are right, I think it should work afterall, using nvflashk. But I would really highly recommend a flasher anyway as the first vbios I can make will prob result in bricking the gpu unill fine tuning is done. Also, my program is coming along nicely, I can reliably find the Core clocks and mem clocks of pascal. I can also reliably get the core + mem clocks of Turing and above gpus (tested up to 4060m vbios) . But this is only using the virtual p state table. Meaning I can only edit the values of "boost" you see in gpu z. This is not the actual boost value : rtx3000 can boost to 1820mhz and that clock is not in the v p table. It must be somewhere else. This is not the case for pascal as this second "real boost" clock is in the v p table. They must have done slight changes between pascal and further generations. Because of boost 2 -> boost 3 modes. Mem overclocking is possible though, as well as power limit modification.

But you tested the RTX 5000 in SG with Optimus!! That's the difference! I actually sold every cables I think. Maybe try it in the AW17 R1? Dell precision? Optimus and pure PEG is super different. I saw on some threads that the RTX cards won't work in the 120Hz...

I disassembled whole MB, cut the nubs and it still hits the side. Do you have any eDP cables to test yourself? It's not going to work, the cable part where the pins are need to be longer for AW M17xR3/R4 MXM slot. Might just resell them since I have no use outside of AW systems. Yes I've shown RTX 5000 working in M18xR1/R2 so it's only natural it works in M17xR4. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/115357776? eDP working is great, @TruenoG7 had rtx 3000 in his m17xr4 but mentioned the display would go out after some time. I might put rtx 5000 in my m17xr3 if I can get chicken to make a modified heatsink for r3/r4. If you have any rtx 3080/4070-4090 you can try your backlight cable and see if it works.

your link does not work mate. Hopefully the spark did not come from my r4 motherboard 😄 Dead motherboard within an hour of testing would've been really unfortunate 🤔

Nope, there is no intelligent reason to downgrade to the latest and not-the-greatest version of Winduhz malware. The only path to an actual upgrade is to dual boot with Linux. The more they work on Windoze, the more broken it becomes. It's already a dumpster fire and they should stop making it worse by "fixing" things that are not broken and adding "features" that are unwanted, disgusting, aesthetic atrocities and information privacy violations.

I just can't wait for Win 12 and even more buggy updates😀 Any reason I should upgrade from Win 10 LTSC to the new modern, buggy and flawed @Mr. Fox🤐 Windows 11 KB5083769 leaves computers stuck in a loop, with blue screens and pixelated errors: Microsoft Learn suggests resetting the PC as a last resort Microsoft: Windows 11 KB5083769, KB5082052 updates causing Remote Desktop issues

Hi re no 4TB drives on dells configurator that is a supply issue not a technical one, driven by high demand from AI for ssd nand chips. we have 2TB Gen5 drives in most of our units but haven’t looked at thermals. However the way the 3 fan cooling is setup one of the fans is there to generate negative pressure and pull cool air in from the vents at the bottom of the Laptop near the ram and ssds so should be better than previous generations/ other workstation designs I have seen, Pretty sure ours have the boot drive in the right hand bay by the ram and it has a little metal heatsink with pad for thermals. Not sure on the best location for the second drive maybe the 4th bay off to the left of the motherboard will have less hot components by it, but is perhaps further from the 3rd fan that generates the negative pressure.

Yup, no error code 43, I installed Windows 11 during the testing and the drivers are installed. RTX Turing works in eDP 120Hz on the M17X R4 like on the M6700 120Hz. I didn't do any benchmarks yet. But as I said, RTX 5000 and T1000 will 1000% work with this laptop.

Interesting, show some pictures please

Hello, Cicichen made a 3 heatpipes M4800 heatsink for the newer RTX cards... How is that possible? By cutting the fan's plastic casing. This would definitely handle 120W easily.

Hello, as far as I know, no one tested this mod on the M17x R4. The people who bought the cables were just Clevo and Dell users. The Ampère and Ada cards could work in this laptop now since the RTX 3000 displays and boots to the bios. I didn't do any testing on the OS side, I need to modify the heatsink now. You need to disassemble the whole laptop, I had to disassemble the whole laptop just to cut the nub... If you don't get a backlight on the screen then you didn't do it properly. Did you follow the PDF instructions I sent in the private message? The instructions shows how to put the 278, 280 cable. Yes the first RTX 3000 is cooked. It's because it already had one of the capacitors that was already smoked so now the card has 2 dead capacitors.

https://imgur.com/wWWkS5Whttps://imgur.com/wWWkS5Whttps://i.imgur.com/wWWkS5W.jpeg[/iBought A Lenovo Legion 7i Pro. The most i ever spent on a laptop but worth for the performance!

Finished testing the Matrix 800W vBios yesterday, basically grabbed top spot in all included benches except for like 2 or so, very consistently beating the Gigachad vBios! All in all, Im currently looking at +71-72% above 4090 stock and roughly +16-17% above 5090 stock, not bad! Gotta love the upgradeability and tuning ability of desktop systems 😄 Now moving on to the Lightning vBios versions, not sure yet if ill also test the XOC versions from Asus and MSI... Monitoring and logging via the WVPII makes things way more relaxed tbh 😄 so far looking good, connector stays very cool, max ive seen thus far was like in the mid 50s, with the inbuilt fan barely starting to spin at that point. still have to do a deepdive on the data collected for the Matrix vBios, gonna do that for every vBios tested so I have a good overview of what kinda wattage my cooling could manage long term 🙂

At this point I've gotten tired of fighting with the software side of things. If that's even what it is. The R3 will run 3D fine, I've gotten it to work a few times but the batteries just died in the glasses and I'll have to fix them(batteries ordered and on the way). It's been a long process and not worth the effort haha. So I've taken a break from working on them. Also just picked up a 3rd M18x R2, I may have a problem haha. My thoughts are, as of now to let the R3 be the 3D rig(I have a spare desktop I can throw a 2080 Ti in if I get more interested in 3D) and upgrading the R4's to more modern GPU's(maybe 1070m in one and something better in the other) just to utilize the 120hz screens and forget about 3D in them, and put the 680M's in one of the M18x's in SLI. It'd be neat to see how it handles some older titles in an original configuration compared to the one with the 3080m. Maybe even the 3rd with 980m sli just for fun.

Sorry I hadn't notice the forums lack of responsiveness, been busy on my end. I have sent for the issue to be looked over, hopefully tomorrow morning. Sorry everyone!

any reason we can't use nvflashk to flash unsigned bios? being able to modify turing quadro mxm would be amazing.