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Oddly enough, I was trying @Mr. Fox 8000c34 bios settings, and CPU#1 could not run the 1.480V VDD, it required 1.500 VDD to even post in bios. Well CPU#2 works fine with 1.480 VDD. So IMC strength is definitely there, and seems to factor in your ram ability as well.

I will hopefully be grabbing one day 1 LOL. I swear in my next house I need an entire basement as a man cave for all of this hardware I've been collecting over the years. I want to build a rack of test benches. Setup a nice home gym in one of the corners, a coffee bar and some nice lazy boys in the other corner with a big home theater setup.

Did you edited the bios by yourself?

Edp other is eletrical design point and other reason, it shows in trottle stop or HWINFO under IA limit reason or core limit reasons But can you tell me what you changed in your magical dsanke bios? Also if non undervolted do you still achieve 4.9 or 4.7 in idle???

How do you see that in the unlocked BIOS?

I want to know if you did changed this LLC or vdroop, because mine if no undervolt cant even idle at 4.7ghz regular temps cuz edp other will be firing constantly and yes 255A (1023) limit set in bios

I dont have a bios with all the settings, something is making me edp other while under load, the vcore cant surpass 1.27v if surpass itnlower the clock

I don't know why, core 0 was maxing at 4.7GHz while the other were maxing at 4.9GHz during the CPU-z tests. AVX -2. Is there a way to set fixed Vcore on P775? I have an unlocked BIOS with all the settings.

Thats the mystery im trying to solve, do you 4.9 while udner load? Or edp other back to 4.7?

I'll sell but I don't think it's a good bin. It bsod at -100mV. I can -80mV for 4.7GHz to 4.9GHz all cores.

First of all, congratz on getting two great chips! Second, have you tested their core strength and not just the IMC? Third, How are you testing? This is a situation I would throw Karhu at both of them and see what rises to the top for their IMCs Lastly, quite honestly to me, 8000+ is end game now for AM5 if only marginally so because while 6600 is nice the real end goal for AM5 is 2200+ and 8000+. I've upended all my timings and settings centered around 8000+ because at worst it performs the same as 6400 while at best it actually does a smidge better. The problem also is if you can only run 2167 then that throws out of sync a bit matching 2200:6600. Test both of them at 8000, 8200, 8400 and see which one rises to the top next. Real testing TM5 Extreme at least or Karhu if you want that end game verdict of where they stand realistically. I'm absolutely fine with powerhouse versions and this is exactly what I plan to pick up their 50 core + monstrosity. But with that being said, as long as they attach that cache to their 7 and 5 skus (or whatever they're going to call them), that will more than cover competing against AMD's 10850X3D (or whatever it ends up being called) along with the 9850X3D. I expect Intel to take the same approach as they did with Socket 1700 and to a degree 1851 and just come out blazing.... Keeping the same socket will also do much for longevity and good will. They finally realized the best way to keep customers locked in is making upgrades as easy as dropping in a new CPU. AMD figured this out a long time ago especially if your objective is to, well, sell CPUs?

Don't give up on the one that only runs 2167 just yet. If the voltage suggestions I texted to you work you might be able to run 2200 FCLK stable. If they do not work, then I would choose CPU #1 that does run 2200 FCLK at 6400 C28. The 2200 FCLK is more important than the 6600 C30. That is because the FCLK is the frequency that connects the CCDs and IO die and being limited to 2167 is not ideal because it becomes a bottleneck that affect more things adversely than just being able to run a 200 MHz higher RAM frequency. Because these components are physically separate, they must communicate across the CPU package. FCLK dictates how fast data can travel between these chiplets. If FCLK is low, it creates a bottleneck where your memory sends data faster than the internal highway can handle. Conversely, pushing FCLK too high past its physical stability limits (usually a maximum of 2200 MHz on Zen 5 CPUs) results in audio crackling, USB dropouts, system crashes or no boot (code 00). Running high memory frequency on Ryzen has diminishing returns, especially on X3D chips. You are better off focusing on bandwidth, which is why 8000 2:1 is better than 6400 1:1. It allows more data to pass through in the same amount of time due to higher bandwidth. You will find that 6600 1:1, 8000 2:1 have similar benchmark scores, but 8000 2:1 is higher bandwidth and allows you to do a little further with performance. And, 2200 FCLK matters for both configurations. The CPU that can do 6600 C30 1:1 has a very strong IMC and a weak fabric. Stronger fabric trumps stronger IMC unless the IMC is really horrible. There is not going to be much difference between 6600 C30 and 6400 C28, but a 2167 FCLK would hold you back and probably have measurably higher latency. The fabric is sort of like a transmission. If you have a strong engine and a fragile transmission with the wrong gear ratios the strong engine is going to be of limited benefit because it cannot push the performance to the wheels where it matters most.

Do you sell this cpu? How much? My i7 9700k is trash it can only sustain 4.7 after a not so stable -100mv in windows, otherwise it will insanely edp other

Me thinking Intel is going back to pump out more powa😀 Exactly as bro @Mr. Fox want. More to everyone😎 This is what intel need to do. Forget about lowest power possible. Win for every costs. If the cores and cache need more power, then let it get what it needs. And stop make desktop processors from power efficient mobile crap. Leak Confirms Intel's Long-Term Socket Plan with LGA-1954 Intel's "Nova Lake-S" desktop processors are drawing nearer, and today a leaked partner slide from China confirmed many of the plans we anticipated. Starting with the LGA-1954 socket, Intel's testing tools had already verified the pin count. This slide not only confirms the pin count but also introduces a small detail about it. In the bottom left corner, there is a disclaimer stating that Intel plans to keep the LGA-1954 socket for multiple generations.

So, I was worried this would happen lol. I am testing the 2nd 9950X3D2, and it has a “Superman” IMC. Even stronger than the other one. This one runs 6600c30 1:1 without any fuss, but only 2,167 FCLK. So now I have a choice to make. #1 (9950X3D2) 2200fclk@ 6400c28 1:1 Easy Mode SP118. #2 (9950X3D2) 2167fclk@ 6600c30 1:1 Easy Mode SP118. 🤔

even the temps being reasonable i need insane undervolt of -106mv to have stable 4.7ghz, i seen mfs rocking i9 9900k's at 5ghz here, whats wrong with my puter? Everything it edp others the shit out of my clock And I can push 187W and 140A at the cpu btw

I went from 115w 1800mhz-1900peaks To stable 1950mhz stable and 2020 stable depending on the game and 153watts

Well all i have is two cyberpunk runs one before and other after

I enjoyed this video. He states a lot of known truths from memory makers purposely constricting supply. Honestly I don't blame them with past precedent showing over production = collapsed markets. I think they know the AI market is tenuous at this point and to go all in could result in a massive collapse. I do think they are spring boarding off of the AI bubble with tightly controlled production to um "re-imagine" the consumer market pricing by overly constricting supply. There has to be a balance in there somewhere. Time will tell because right now memory is in stock everywhere in droves. Consumers aren't buying at these prices. Nvidia marginalizing gaming into edge computing because AI is the big thing right now I hope it bites them in the arse down the road but I suspect it won't because Nvidia is branching out into serious CPU production and other markets. Nvidia will be the final push that starts to seriously effect Intel and AMD's CPU production segment. All I'm saying is Intel better stay the course with their GPU division like AMD has to fall back upon. They need a two pronged attack while they continue to figure out a way to get their legacy x86 architecture modernized to compete against the M and M like chips coming into their own. "The craft builder is not really going anywhere because their reason to build was never the price and you can't price out a reason that was never about price." This is spot on. We build and tinker for the love of it. His comparison of craft builders vs necessity builders was very valid. He is also on point with the crowd that buys pre built because they just want to plug it in and go and how many who used to like to tinker have transitioned to this crowd. I have SO many life long friends and gaming buddies who used to get in the trenches to build and tweak their rigs to play Quake and Unreal Tournament and early days of WoW who just don't have the time or updated skill sets to build and tweak anymore and when problems arise they get immediately flustered and frustrated and usually turn to me for help where before we shared knowledge and ate our own chow. I think I have one friend left from the early days (circa 90s) who still insists on building his own rig. The rest either go pre-built, a laptop or have switched to Apple. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Anyone who doesn't think 13th and 14th can still bring the pain where applicable is in denial. Dufus is stuck on bad testing and data gathering while asking us to "trust me bro" on the "feel" of games and a lack of consistency. I'm not saying there isn't some validity to what he is claiming, but he has built his entire brand around dry humping Socket 1700. But, as someone who still runs all three and routinely swaps and tests with them even now, Socket 1700 is showing its age. The most recent updates to Agesa (ugh) and gaming as a whole, all that dippity dip dip in WoW is basically gone at this point and remember, I was one of the early ones who was calling it out in the old forums and maybe even here with the 7800X3D vs 13900KS in WoW where there was some absolutely atrocious spots of it that are now gone. Even when I go back to my old "dip" spots to test that is streaming in assets at a high volume, the dip is no longer present. Best case, Socket 1700 is still a ripper in games that can't take advantage of X3D and doesn't pull a lot of power. Worse case, it is a very hot and heavy running CPU that gets left in the dust in games that love X3D while pulling 200w+. Intel badly needs a light and nimble 8 core / 16 thread large cache enabled CPU that doesn't suck down a metric ton of power to game and own. That's it. No more ; no less. I do think we will get that with Nova Lake as even Intel finally realizes they can't compete overall without a big 'ole chunk of cache. Nova Lake new architecture + bLLC is going to be an absolute wrecking ball. It is literally the #1 reason I am holding onto these Corsair Vengeance 9200 sticks to pick up a MB + CPU as soon as I get the ok from @Talon 🤣 ------------------------------------------------------------ Nvidia keeps pushing up pricing to protect margins and profit because quite honestly if the margins aren't there they won't stay engaged in even supplying to the gaming sector since we're now a blip in edge computing to them. Their objective is to keep pushing AI till they're blue in the face.... What's the alternative? People aren't buying 9070xt even though it is competitive against both the 5070ti and 5080. If the current pricing travesties won't push buyers to AMD, nothing will.

I sell one but I don't think you have the money for one. And shipping to the middle east sounds expensive and dangerous

@SuperMG Hello friend Where I could get my hands on a Turing or ADA GPUs like your magnificent setup

Hi, I saw your mention of soft touch plastics, you can clean off the coating with petrol and a rag. this works for most of the horrible soft touch coatings when they go bad

Why change only for the change and pay more? The 4 year old Raptor Lake (Refresh) is still a viable processor. Yup, old doesn't always mean worse or bad value. And it can save you some money if you already have one🙂 Benchmarking 31 different CPUs in Onimusha: Way of the Sword The AMD's Intel moment....... AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Swells and Burns Again, This Time on an ASUS Crosshair X670E Hero

Ai is the perfect tool. USA has come closer to China now. It goes in that direction bro @Mr. Fox This need to be stopped. Now, and before it's too late. Dallas garbage trucks are using AI cameras to flag code violations and give homes a "blight score" Privacy concerns and fears of unfair fines are fueling a backlash against the program WTF?! Want another reason why there's a big pushback against artificial intelligence? In Dallas, AI-powered cameras mounted on trash collection trucks are photographing properties and assigning them a "blight score" – a rating based on perceived code violations.

@Aaron44126 Sheeesh, so much informative yet above my current experience, I think I should totally give up on it 🥲🥲