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I (unknowingly) ran incorrect thermal pads for a few months on my MSI 1070 and bent the snot out of it in the VRM area at the top. It still ran fine, but it's not ideal. If you just need to test it, you should be fine, but for long term use I'd try to tighten down the heatsink without any pads and use a pair of calipers to get a rough estimate on proper sizing. You want to run a little thicker on thermal pads, but not too thick as to bend the card. Running bent long term will make it keep its bent shape which also isn't ideal. Is that a cichichen (however his name is spelled, can't remember) for a 17inch or 18inch Alienware?
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep. How many reviewers/techtubers/influencers got paid from MSI ?🤔 And if they got paid... Will they tell it? And MSI's new web based software is a huge mess. Imagine 5090 only could beat two gen old cards (3090) with 35-39%. It would be called a failure! -
My GTX1070 MXM is a bit bent, will it cause issues? I just want to make sure the thermal pads are making proper contact with the heatsink
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I still wouldn't run the 2001w XOC as a D2D vs the Matrix vBIOS. I guess if you don't really have a choice unless you want to whip out a soldering iron to get it working with the Matrix, you use what you can use but for normal cooling, it is the Matrix 800w for me or potentially the 1000w Lightning. -
I guess prices will be around 1900-2500€ for the Gram Pro. AMD version maybe starting at 1700€. https://www.notebookcheck.com/Hands-On-Samsung-Galaxy-Book6-Serie-Alle-Modelle-Preise-und-Starttermin.1219629.0.html In Korea the Galaxy Book 6 Pro is slightly more expensive That's less of a change than expected. But this time I guess there won't be any prices below RRP for quite a while. Last year list price was more an indicative thing and there were a lot of discounts. Good thing about the Galaxy book 6 Pro is - they will only launch a single basic panther lake CPU model. All others go H or X. The basic one is really a strong pass, besides better battery life you gain nothing over Lunar Lake and actually have even worse graphics. 100€ more for an H is a bargain considering the difference (and I'm sure if you set a high Speedshift EPP value the H will not consume any more power)
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The main problem with the (wrong) 2500w XOC version is the default voltage of 1.2v. If you forget to use the curve and reduce voltage you are at risk kill the card in longer benchmarks. Not as much with the 2001W XOC that default to 1.150 And where to get the MSI XOC tool the chosen ones got for the Lightning? Not sure that one is leaked. +50mv is huge when already high 1.150 is at the border for custom cooling with +1000W power limits. I remember using the Galax XOC vbios I have for the 4090 HOF. Pump in +50mv with the Galax tool above default max voltage can kill the card without proper cooling (preferably chiller with sub zero temp). -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I agree, the 2500w like the 2001w and other LN2 geared enthusiast vBIOSes are not the D2D way to go.... I still think when all is said and done the Matrix 800w is going to be the sweet spot for everybody outside of LN2 extremists based on some testing I've done so far, but we'll see. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Not sure if the leaked 2500W vbios is the one to get. I mean I have seen there is a newer 2500W XOC that is more safe to use. The default voltage is all too high. More like 1.2v (there is several variants of the XOC vbios floating). -
Its what everyone else said, Laptops are not exciting anymore as companies stop being innovative and take risks. These are small examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tbQCFt7jB4 but also forum sites are dying in general mostly because of reddit and other social media platforms where all the action takes place. Its been happening for years even some popular forums i know of are like graveyards today no matter what the topic is. It sucks but there nothing we can do about it.
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Dell Precision 7720 Refurbishment/Upgrade Project
Annihilator replied to Will's topic in Custom Builds
P5200 works flawless in the 7720: NVIDIA Quadro P5200 Grafikkarten Benchmark Resultat - Intel Core i7-7820HQ Processor,Dell Inc. 0F2JMF- 11 replies
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
800w variant has leaked on the OCN forums but go ham with the 2500w variant: https://www.overclock.net/posts/29561175/ https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/281792/281792 I am using a third party contact frame on my AM5 platform and had no problems but I am using an Arctic LF2 which I still prefer over the LF3. I picked up a LF3 for the wife's 14900KS system and it runs a tad better than her ancient EVGA 280mm did but louder with the 120mm fans vs the 140mm fans on the 280mm. I'm not super impressed with it. I picked up a Lian Li GA II Elite 360 which is supposedly the new king on the block....I'll get around to testing it when able. Still mired down in setups, clean installs and boxing up stuff from the great hardware selloff purge of 2026. -
Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
Annihilator replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
will try later, putted the P5200 in my 7720 n works flawless, just doin some benchmarks 🙂 no soo bad for totally unoptimized atm: NVIDIA Quadro P5200 Grafikkarten Benchmark Resultat - Intel Core i7-7820HQ Processor,Dell Inc. 0F2JMF -
Yup, Microsoft works hard to improve the reputation for their newest OS. What can goes wrong bro @Mr. Fox? Will more AI coding fix the main problem with their OS ? Microsoft says Windows 11 update causes BSOD on some GPU config, broke WPA3 Wi‑Fi,... Microsoft says it is aware of two separate issues that could affect some Windows 11 installs, including a fatal bug that crashes PCs.
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Putting thermal pads on top of each other
Sebastian Ramirez replied to Sebastian Ramirez's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
SuperMG replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Remove the CMOS battery, hold the power button for 30 seconds and then try again with the M6100. -
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Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
Annihilator replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
ok, putted the P5200 in n nothing happen, same issues like with the GTX 880M, not even shown in BIOS, full bios reset etc. done but nothing, the card getting power, heatsink was still warm as i opened the m6800 again.... edit: putted the m6100 back in to test, same issue... maybe mainboard broken? O_o -
Precision M6800 questions and upgrades
aleksandar replied to Jers6410's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
For nvcleanstall, Is this the method I use with Maxwell cards (eg 980m)? I can't figure it out, but I want to investigate. -
It's now not only RAM, NVME and even HDD drives are basically sold out until 2028. Mainboard manufacturers cannot get materials and so on. Even if they lower their profit margin prices will go up a lot. It's only about how much they preorderd with old pricing. AI datacenters just take whatever is available. AI is now surpassing humans in basically everything - so it makes sense from a business standpoint that all available ressources should be used to scale AI. Now humans will not stop eating and using up resources but things will get hairy (and that's right in the point of time where many resources get much harder to extract and less available). Getting a new laptop right now surely makes sense just as anything else you really need for work or life. I still think Panther lake is the biggest upgrade in the Gram line since at least the 11. gen. It's the first time without a big compromise either in performance or battery use. With the limited cooling power - it will be the most performant, and with the battery life it's just better than anything before. Plus OLED really improved in text readability and power use the last years. Besides contrast there is no improvement in IPS displays since many years. Higher refresh rates are pretty old - LG just took a long time to use more than 60hz.
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Yeah, the main problem is that it must be quite a simple setting because on my first try I got it right. I gues I can only CMOS reset the bios to start from scratch - I think the load default is a saved set of options, that doesn't include all options. I don't think you can really destroy something - modern bios will restore to default after a couple of failed boots. Looking for what enables Prochot to 98° I destroyed my completely unlocked power envelope. And yeah the price increase mentioned in Korea was my reason to buy the Gram now - I really wanted it to be below 1000€ before VAT - so I can detax it in the same year. I would prefer 32GB but I rarely need it - and I have a server with 128GB for really big workloads that is idle 5.5 days of the week. The 2TB models sometimes have PCIE5 NVME disks - meaning twice the speed of PCIE4. But yeah that too is a lottery. It doesn't look likely prices will go back within the next 2 years - except if we have financial crash and then it's really hard to predict with prices of anything. After switching to Bitdefender instead of PandaDome and disabling most things in it - especially the web protection - I get pretty reliable 15-16 hours battery life for working with 60-30% display brightness depending on time of the day. I'm pretty sure with Panther lake 20 hours would be realistc after debloating Windows 11, and making sure antivirus is not set to monitor whatever. I can myself identify scam websites, and click on manual scan if I get download something where I'm not 100% sure. Bitdefender looks like right now the lowest ressource free antivirus. Trying to fully disable antivirus doesn't work well anymore with windows 11. Any kind of update will then put windows defender instead of none. That's especially annoying on a server where you are super careful anyhow and firewall plus login security is way more important than antivirus. I guess the new 2025 Ultra 5H or X7 model will be at least at 2000€ plus VAT when it becomes available in April? I'm in Taiwan next moth but prices there aren't much better than Europe. Only China and Korea are cheap.
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I didn't notice a significant difference in display quality between the IPS panel on my 17" 2024 gram Pro and the 15.5" OLED panel on the LG gram Superslim. I will be watching the prices of the Panther Lake models with interest. I feel that notebook manufacturers will have to absorb part of the higher RAM cost if they want to sell the 2026 products. For most users the improvements offered by the new models aren't sufficient to pay a big price premium.
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You have been very adventurous with your changing of the advanced BIOS setting than I would consider doing. Amazon UK has followed LG UK with big price increases on the 2025 models but I'm waiting to see if one which is returned is offered at a tempting discount.
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
speaking of, any indications that the lightning vbios has leaked yet? 😛 im guessing they dont have any reason to upgrade to quad channel anytime soon, what with DDR5 (and likely also 6) doubling the amount of internal "channels" with each new gen. btw, resolved the bad paste job, turned out that the Thermal Grizzly AM5 High Performance Heatspreader was the culprit, or rather its missing z height vs the stock heatspreader. the Arctic LF3 coolplate doesnt make proper contact with it, even though im using the TG shortened offset mounting kit. ive tried twice now with crappy results. so its back to the regular AM5 retention mechanism incl the stock heatspreader, but at least now i got a nice clean delid with TG conductonaut extreme on it. done with disassembling my hardware for now, back to RAM tuning! 😄 on another note: received and email from TG, seems like a new firmware update is out for the WV Pro II, including first official version of the accompanying software, nice 🙂 -
Putting thermal pads on top of each other
jaybee83 replied to Sebastian Ramirez's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
no worries, ive done this for years with superb results 🙂 just make sure the pads are the same brand / type and are squished well together so that they make good contact to each other 🙂 -
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I am using the new 9961 beta BIOS on the Apex and it seems OK so far. So, I may test 2101 on the Strix. AGESA 1.3.0.0 sucked for me on the Apex and the Strix, but 1.3.0.0a may have corrected the bugs that I had with 1.3.0.0 AGESA. Nah, I was wrong. AGESA 1.3.0.0a is still garbage. I still have random freezes at idle and light load from excessive vdroop using this AGESA that I don't have with older versions. -
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thank you. Yes, it is definitely a relief. As a side note, I am more excited about this new role than any I can remember before. It is a newly created position in a new department. The job description reads like it was written for me by someone that knows me well. It will allow me to lean into my strengths and skillset. This will be the first time in around 25 years that I will not be responsible for the performance of other employees, hiring, disciplinary actions and terminations. Data analytics has been a big part of what I have been responsible for in terms of people performance evaluation for 2.5 decades and that will be the bulk of my daily grind, but from the perspective of evaluating process and program performance rather than execution (or the failure to execute) by individuals. Apart from the previous 6.25 years working for a small business, the previous 32+ years I have worked for huge fortune 500 corporations with many thousands of employees. I am also looking forward to going back to that again. The small business experience was wonderful until it wasn't. And, another plus is that I can continue working remotely. I haven't worked from a corporate office location since 2000. I have been a remote employee ever since, before the term "remote" was even invented. Most of the jobs I applied for would have required working on-site daily or hybrid with with only 1 or 2 days a week remote. I'm so glad I don't have to waste time behind a windshield going to/from work and battling traffic every day.