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After watching parts of CES this year i hope this happens. For the greater good!

Hello guys, Maybe someone here has had a similar issue. For some time now, I’ve been having problems with my Clevo laptop. It’s the version with an RTX 3080 and an i9-10900K. Previously, I had liquid metal applied on the CPU. Now I’m using a standard thermal paste, so naturally the CPU runs at a lower clock speed (around 4.4 GHz) to avoid thermal throttling. Unfortunately, I recently noticed that a fairly old game — Apex Legends — started running very poorly. Before, I had no trouble achieving 135–200 FPS on average on this hardware. Now the FPS ranges between 25 and 110. I checked whether the correct GPU is being used during gameplay — everything looks fine. Temperatures are also below levels that would cause clock throttling. I thought the laptop might not be delivering enough power to the GPU or CPU, but during 3DMark tests the system draws around 180 W on average. During gameplay, the GPU uses about 66 W and the CPU about 65 W, so there should still be some power headroom. What’s interesting is that I tested FPS in the same spot on the map with the CPU running at 4.4 GHz, and then again with the CPU locked at 2 GHz. Surprisingly, at the lower CPU clock I actually got about 10 FPS more in the same location. The only thing that would make sense to me is that the VRM (Voltage Regulator Module) reduces the power delivered to the GPU when the CPU draws more power. Once the CPU starts using more than 20 W, the FPS begins to drop. It looks as if, specifically in Apex Legends, the VRM is limiting the total power available to the laptop. Does anyone have another idea why the performance of this laptop has degraded so much? For comparison: when the laptop was new, I scored 14,111 points in 3DMark Time Spy. Now I can barely reach 11,520 points. My current BIOS version is 1.07.09RTR6. I would really appreciate any advice, because honestly I’m running out of ideas. I’m using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU) for CPU overclocking — maybe you can recommend a better tool. I’ve attached screenshots from 3DMark and in-game tests.

Also a Zbook 15 G3 upgraded from M2000M to M2200, works just fine. Kept the original cooling, replaced the TIM with PTM7950. Wonder how far it can be stretched to...😂

I hope that someone invents some kind of self-executing stealth worm malware to be automatically uploaded by the Redmond Reprobates to OneDrive without permission that would systematically crash all of Micro$lop's servers, severely corrupt all of their Copilot AI databases beyond repair, and take them offline for a week or two. Would be nice for them to experience a major tragedy from grabbing files off of consumer PCs without permission and putting them on OneDrive.

I hope that someone invents some kind of self-executing stealth worm malware to be automatically uploaded by the Redmond Reprobates to OneDrive without permission that would systematically crash all of Micro$lop's servers, severely corrupt all of their Copilot AI databases beyond repair, and take them offline for a week or two. Would be nice for them to experience a major tragedy from grabbing files off of consumer PCs without permission and putting them on OneDrive.

You can't trust Microsoft anymore. All they really want is your data/privacy for their AI training. Of course the satisfaction rating is now lower than ever. Windows users keep losing files to OneDrive, and many don't know why Files can be permanently deleted if you aren't careful "At some point your computer will update to start using OneDrive, and at no point will you be given any kind of plain-language warning or opt-out, it will just do it. At some point you will notice that it is quietly uploading everything on your computer to Microsoft's servers."

You can't trust Microsoft anymore. All they really want is your data/privacy for their AI training. Windows users keep losing files to OneDrive, and many don't know why Files can be permanently deleted if you aren't careful "At some point your computer will update to start using OneDrive, and at no point will you be given any kind of plain-language warning or opt-out, it will just do it. At some point you will notice that it is quietly uploading everything on your computer to Microsoft's servers."

Dell admits customers are not buying PCs based on AI videocardz.com Very useful. Grok is generating thousands of AI "undressing" deepfakes every hour on X "X, the deepfake porn site formerly known as Twitter"

Hey, did you get it installed? Did it work?

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These VBIOSes are available on techpowerup. I won't recommend to stick anything HP to it meanwhile because of the heatsink. Some HP cards has a small offset of 0.3cm some don't and that's how I broke mine. 160€ down for nothing. Not getting recognized on my Clevo as well. RGB-MB is the worse option. LVDS will work because HDMI out only uses dGPU so it's full performance. eDP 3D would be great too but it's impossible to get one.

Those fold out legs are a neat solution. Are they durable? I remember that the CPU VRMs use 0.5mm thermal pads, so even a tiny bit of extra thickness could cause contact issues for the CPU Notebookcheck has a good review of the ZBook: https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-ZBook-Fury-15-G7-Workstation-Review-Vapor-Chamber-for-Maximum-Performance.512628.0.html The build quality looks solid. Compared with my Precision with similar specs (undervolted 8-core Xeon, RTX 5000 Max-Q), the HP scores 10% lower in Cinebench R20, and 15% lower on 3DMark graphics.

My Precision 7540 operates at low temperatures, with little noise, and has excellent battery life (more than 6 hours of light use without using the dGPU, even after more than 5 years). Even under full load, the i9-9980HK in stock configuration (4.2GHz on all cores simultaneously) never reaches 90°C (except in Prime95, which is a completely unrealistic load...). I use Kryosheet on the CPU, but with a PTM 7950 it should be similar. This is fundamental to achieving this level of performance, as is undervolting the CPU. I believe the cooling system of the 7530 is the same when comparing the same GPU class of each, so it's entirely possible to have a cool system with low noise in normal office use and good battery life. I doubt that the Zbook from the same year will achieve the same results... When I had an i7-9750H (similar to the i7-8750H) in that Precision, the temperatures, noise, and battery life were even better. The i7 undervolted and under full load, could stay at ~80°C all day with the fans at ~75% (~3900 rpm).

And what do you think or know about HP Workstations,a cpecifically Zbooks Fury 15/17 g6/g7 ? Are they better or worst by performance and temperatures than Precisions?

Can you share the HP original VBIOS for the RTX 3000?

Nice! Keep up the good work!

Thread closed. No longer looking into getting the P5200.

OK, sorry about that, I do subscribe to The Verge so I didn't realize that they had a paywall on this article. Couple more. https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/dell/dell-xps-returns-in-2026-after-rebrand-flop https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/01/dells-xps-revival-is-a-welcome-reprieve-from-the-ai-pc-fad/ Dell is bringing the XPS name back (in addition to the Precision name, it seems). The Pro/Premium/Plus/Max names that they introduced last year is already being phased out... though not completely ("Precision" is now "Pro Precision").

A website with news about Dell says you need to pay. 😁

I managed to use some metal trunking lid at work and made a metal plate using the original spreader for the screw holes, I have some anti conductive heat resistant paint I can use on it, I will test this later tonight

Thanks for answer.Yes,it is.I did change turbo-boost plan from default agressive to efficient agressive.Termal putty sells in needles so i make 2 sausages and it's total volume is not big on smd and vrm.Seems to be all these can reduce total heating as it was earlier.I put my notebook on these legs so it breathes good.

The name of the event is no longer fitting. It needs to be renamed AES or ACS for Anti-consumer Electronics Show or Anti-Consumer Show since it has less to do with electronics due to the irrational focus on AI and nothing to do with consumers other than us funding this stupid $hit. Judging from the video title wording, Jufes should use some of the money from his Discord subscribers to purchase a spelling course. His crude vocabulary isn't the only thing that could use some work. I bet he is not even aware of the misspelled word.

Thank you very much! Happy New Year

Holy moly.... Those Corsair Vengeance 9200 2x24GB I was able to get for $390 while they were $790 are now $970 direct from Corsair.... wth? -------------------------------------------------- Yeah, trying to push higher and heat is my main enemy now. They hit 70c+ and things get very precarious with these heatsinks especially on the Vengeance 9200. Anything 8800+ even with lower tREFI is pushing the temps 60 70c+. I will be pulling out a case fan to put on top for some more testing sooner than later at this point. Apex does come with a ram heat fan thingy though so that's something.... You could always pick up a dirt cheap 265k and a board to play around with. I'm going to assume you have DDR5 on the shelf and didn't sell it off with your 1700 rig. --------------------------------------------------------- Well, while you're there on Asus's website, you might as well click the notify me on the Matrix 5090 'cause I know you want one @Papusan 🤣 CES was just AI fest. My favorite was Jufus's take of AMD's booth: