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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
SuperMG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
I'm curious. So his GPU has HDMI in DP_D then? If it has simple DP in DP_D, it should have worked. As "eDP" HDP are just DP signals. I think the RTX Turing will work (if all ports are DP/DP++) on the Zbook G3 17. Sadly not with the X-Vsion nor with ZRT cards 😕- 358 replies
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Don't use Optimus and LVDS. No one has tried pure dGPU in eDP with a MSI and a new RTX MXM. Maybe this could fix some the issues you mentioned
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In that case, I don’t really understand what’s preventing at least the video outputs from working. Maybe it has something to do with the routing through Optimus. The only GT60 with eDP is the one with the 3K or 4K IPS display, the 16F4 version 3.0 motherboard model. Maybe on that one, with the eDP backlight mod, everything would work properly.
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thank you for the update, brother. I am glad they are helping get things under control. The reason hypertension is often called "the silent kiler" is because it sneaks up on you quietly and usually has no symptoms. No, it is never any fun waiting to see if treatment worked. I know exactly how unpleasant that feels and can empathize. The cycle of test > treat > wait > retest sucks. The anticipation of the unknown is psychologically difficult and time changes from seeming to fly to a slow creep. The important thing is that they discovered the need and action is being taken. That is a blessing to you and all that know and love you. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Some update. Have been to my personal doctor today. Also got my epikrise from the hospital to keep home. I had stroke two places in my brain on left side. But got further info from the epikrise... I have had several small strokes in the frontallap before. I never knew that before. Very rare I have been in an mr machine the last years. So my doctor said I have been pretty damn lucky. My main problem is high bloodpressure (also one of the reasons for stoke outside my higher colestrole). They need to reduce it further. Both the bloodpressure and colestole. But each new dose medicines need to work 3-4weeks to see an effect. Not fun sit here with high bloodpressure and know the risk is still high for a possibel second stroke. But the medicines need to start work properly before they can or should increase doses. The bad coletrole need to be pushed down to 1.4-1.8 if you have had stroke. So here I sit waiting yet another 3-4 weeks to see if things may be better😟 As well, forbidden to drive a car the next +3 months. Yup, fun times. I just love it! -
DP/DP/HDMI/eDP. Same as the RTX 4070 MXM. Works perfectly fine on my M6700 and 7720. I had all the display ports, even the USB-C on the 7720.
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When I mentioned the fans, it’s actually an EC firmware issue that likely doesn’t properly detect the 4060, probably due to an incorrect temperature sensor report over SMBus. But to me, the biggest issue still remains external display support...
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
JadeRover replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Hello, yes I think I know what the problem is. You 8770W with dreamcolor screen connects directly to the GPU in the MXM slot meaning that the GPU must be configured to have eDP output to the dreamcolor screen (dreamcolor LCD uses LVDS but all laptops from that era with DC screen use an internal eDP to LVDS converter -> GPU needs eDP output to be set on the correct lane for it to work) Your 8770w had eDP on lane "D" of the MXM slot *, the signal then goes to the LCD connector, then to the eDP to LVDS converter and finally to the LVDS DC screen. See schematic of your 8770w, eDP are on the last 10 pins of the LCD connector, signal are named DPDx_Dx = DP_D The issue is that the zbook 17 g3 you got the card from uses eDP on lane "C" ! So the card is configured to output eDP on the wrong channel compared to your 8770w = no display. (I know this from my first hand experience getting MXM cards to work on my 17 g3 and getting no display as well because of eDP lane mismatch) The fix is simple, you need to flash a vbios that has the correct display configuration to the card. This dell vbios has eDP on DP_D (as it is from a precision 7710 that has eDP on DP_D): https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/221521/221521 They are several ways to flash the correct vbios. I recommend getting a CH341a programmer with 1.8v adapter, it costs 10 dollars max. Good luck and ask away if you have more questions * This is good news as this is the standard for MXM gpus, you could even upgrade to an RTX card by x-vision or other brands that come only with a vbios configured with eDP on DP_D !- 358 replies
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I have a Dell Precision M6700 Red Covet with RTX 5000 16GB if you want with the 120Hz 3D screen. No fan problems and the RTX 4070 and 4080 worked in this laptop with the backlight mod.
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Welcome Dink, glad to have you here, as someone who had similar fun when i tried to upgrade to a 965M card, i too got no POST, just a blank screen, its sounding like your VBIOS isnt correct. If the older card you had in previously worked then the system Bios should be ok. I too have .71 advised by HP when i upgraded, that said others on here run earlier system bios versions. KBX on here runs a 980M but with a earlier SBIOS. if you can get output on any (VGA/DP/main screen you can use NVflash) if not then worth trying either a CH314A USB flash tool or find another machine which has IntelGPU so you can get an output. Unfortunately the 8770 and 8570W cant run intel's IGPU as no pins from CPU even though the CPU has it built. I'm running a k1000M but tried a 965M before going down the 980M SLI path.- 358 replies
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After selling my GT60 Haswell 16F4 V 1.1, I’m still going to get back into a few experiments with a 16F3 that I managed to repair. For now, it’s running an i7-3920XM / 32GB HyperX 1866 MHz / GTX 1060. I’d like to manage to install something in it that performs better than a Quadro RTX 3000 maybe a Quadro RTX 5000? But these cards seem impossible to find now, or out of stock... I might consider an RTX 3060, but I assume that hasn’t been tested yet. The 4060 could work in the GT60 16F4, with the known fan issues and no external display output. Maybe the Ampere models could work better...
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For Aetina it was the case for their Ampere and Ada cards. Maybe PCP is using the same VBIOS as Aetina? For X-Vsion it's different. I saw the GPU-Z screenshots and the GPU was outputting in DP without 4G decode enabled in the SBIOS.
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Nahimic 3 UAD Modified Driver for Unsupported MSI Hardware
FrancoTecno replied to solidus1983's topic in MSI
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Nahimic 3 UAD Modified Driver for Unsupported MSI Hardware
FrancoTecno replied to solidus1983's topic in MSI
New Nahimic UWP App update! Version 1.10.11. no issues with my own updated mod. you will get the app update automatically from Microsoft Store.- 295 replies
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yes, downloaded the latest software/firmware when I installed the WireView Pro II today. It was software version 1.0.6 and the firmware is v04. I cannot say whether or not Micro$lop has a default 5090 driver that installs because I do not allow Windoze to update any drivers. I disable that functionality and install my own. Hopefully another 5090 owner can chime in since I can't provide anything useful with regard to this. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
"Like New" Asus Z890 Maximus Hero with thermal paste everywhere and a fully bent back pin in the top right corner....smudges all over the place and the secondary heatsink has stripped screws somehow that won't allow it to be lifted off...... Well played Amazon Resale....well played..... Less than 20min after receipt drop off return set for our local Staples.... --------------------------------------------------------- Might as well take it apart and take a look then. Might be a thermal compound placement issue, stress issue or something else you can see. The fact it even lets you game for ~10 minutes is encouraging. Make sure to run individual stress tests on the VRAM and Core separately. If it is defective, hopefully it is a memory module at worse or a minor board issue. Did you at least reach back out to the seller since he's local? -------------------------------------------------------------- Looking good? I just saw 1.0.6 of the WVP2 software is available while I was giving my system the ultra clean install / updates. I do have a question, do other 5090 owners get a default driver from M$ for their 5090s? I never have for my Vanguard and can't remember if I got one for my Astral or Ventus in the past on clean install and letting Windows run its updates. It's always M$ Basic Video Adapter which works for me. -
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Hi, I bought laptop CLEVO P751TM1 and would like to know how to enter into its BIOS in case of cold start. Could you please tell me the steps I should take to open my BIOS? Currently attempt to press F7 upon cold starts are ignored, but sometime ago F7 worked and allowed me entering BIOS. My OS is Win 11 23H2.
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Got the WireView Pro II for the 5080 today. Order was placed on Thursday. -
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I got it running, I already had dsanke BIOS and then inf modded the driver for the 3070 🙂
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You just have to flash over to thw 20 and 30 BIOS since you are running the 10xx ones most likely. You hqve to create a custom driver for it, but Frakendriver might work… I accidentally ran BitDefender and it nuked my display drivers (P750DM3) for that Windows install, and then I dropped the thing and now I can’t even post! I had my i9-9900KF running good with that $300 heatsink and custom pads, but now I’m using a P750TM1 with native Coffee Lake support that ai might move all of that over to but that leaves a 1070 GPU that’ll need a home. i also have a third P750 if anybody needs parts or a chassis or something. (And a P650HS, P650HP6, N850 960m and 1050ti too, but I’m just rambling now)
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Test it in your son's system just to confirm and then reach out to Tony at Northwest Repair. You can go to his YouTube channel and the about page for info how to contact him. I had him repair bad memory on a 2080 Ti for me before his channel got wide notoriety. Super nice guy. It's probably something like a broken solder joint that is affected by temperature and 3D load causing it to act up. His prices are reasonable. Edit: Here is his contact info... He is in the Portland, Oregon area. -
Hello everyone! Do you want to upgrade your old laptop MXM GPU? But you can't since the newest RTX Turing, Ampere, Ada and Blackwell won't work with your eDP display? I have the solution for you! No more blackscreens! The backlight mod v2 upgrade to enable eDP display for your MXM card! Here's the old thread for the backlight mod v1: Every cards from Turing to Blackwell generation, from brands like Aetina, Adlink, PNY, ZRT and X-Vsion will work with this mod! Thank you to everyone who bought the backlight mod v1! I have sold everything! The backlight mod v2 will offer BRIGHTNESS CONTROL thru a tiny PWM module that you can install inside your laptop's case or in the SSD/HDD 2.5" bay or directly outside the laptop. (Backside of the PCB is insulated) How to control it? With the small knob, you can directly control the brightness from 1% to 100%! The v1 was stuck at 100% because 95% of the laptops I tested lacked the PWM brightness module in the motherboard. Only the Clevo P570WM3 had brightness control with the v1 mod! The flex FPC cable is longer than before! From 7.5cm to 10.5cm! Why? To allow easier installation! It's now way easier to install the V2 than the V1. Signal 23 and 25 are the same, nothing changed there. Available: in 2 weeks! You can pre-order in my private messages. What's included in the package: 1x FPC cable 1x PWM Module 1x 15cm cable for connecting both For people who already bought the v1, I'll include 2x FPC cables for the same price! Compatible with GPUs: Nvidia RTX 4050, 4060, 4070 MXM-A (ZRT, ENBIK, X-VSION) Nvidia RTX 4080, 4090 MXM-B (ZRT, ENBIK, X-VSION, need EDID override because the drivers disable the eDP, which results to a non-PnP screen in windows) NVIDIA Quadro RTX A5500, A5000, A4500, A4000, A3000, A2000 MXM-A (X-VSION, for Aetina, PCP, you need 4G decode enabled in the SBIOS) Nvidia RTX 3050 Ti, 3060, 3070, 3080, 3080 Ti (X-VSION, ZRT) Nvidia RTX 3000, 4000, 5000 (Aetina, PNY, ADLINK, PCP). Compatible with laptops (v1 tested): - eDP screen (eDP/DP in DP_D port) - Enable pure-UEFI in SBIOS - Legacy Options OFF - Optional 4G Decode enable in SBIOS for Ampère and Ada cards from Aetina, PCP, PNY... (EDP) Dell: Precision M4700 and M6700 Precision M4800 and M6800 Precision 7710 and 7720 (EDP, needs testing) Alienware M17X R4 (120Hz), Alienware 17 R1 (120Hz). Will not work with M17X R3 because the SBIOS doesn't have UEFI and the newer RTX cards must need UEFI in order to display with the DP protocol. (EDP) Clevo: P570WM3, P870 series, P775 series, P770 series, P375SM, X170 series (MXM based laptop and eDP screen but it needs substantial heatsink mod, no one tried on this pc yet) (EDP) HP: ZBOOK G4 17, G5 17, G6 17 MSI: I don't know which models use eDP (probably the Pascal models) but... A lot of users report fan control issues with RTX MXM cards in LVDS Switchable Graphics based systems, so I don't know about their compatibility.
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tps3443 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Nah man, I got the full brunt on this one. I bought it on Face Book market place, did some very quick sessions with it like running a game for all of 1-2 minutes, ran a single steel nomad benchmark lol. And works fine in 2D applications and will run however long you need in 2D, but under 3D load it is locking up the PC after 5-10 minutes or the 2nd Steel nomad pass lol, I have tried all sorts of things and it just won’t let you game more than about 10 minutes. I tried my son’s GPU in my system, and that works just fine. No locking up. But, did not try this 5080 in his system. I suppose there is no point in that now. I am 100% certain the GPU is defective.