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Do an in-place upgrade to Windows 10 IoT LTSC and don't worry about it. Also don't worry about "updates" because you don't need them. That is a hoax. Start easing yourself into Linux. You'll be glad you did. The hardest part is learning to do without some of the Windoze-only software you enjoy using. You can dual boot to use it when you need to. Most games work fine on Linux and there are CPU and GPU overclocking utilities for Linux that work perfectly. Winduhz matters less today than it ever has before. I'm even using Micro$lop Office, PowerBI and Adobe Photoshop on Linux using Winboat. The only thing I actually need Windoze for is HWBOT benching and that has become such a joke that I don't burn many calories on that anymore. I'm not one of the chosen ones that gets free hardware and special firmware that is not available to the general public, so competing has become a waste of time.

Nadella do a great jobb @Mr. Fox

If/I mean when the bubble burst it will be harder for nvidia and AMD to bring back people over to even more overpriced GPUs. Many will most likely stay with their iGPUs/consoles. Everything come at a price. People won't pay extra premium for gamer cards due the AI bubble failure.

I think the problem is you know one of the main stumbling blocks for pushing hardware is temps and having been to the mountaintop with a chiller, it is kind of hard to come back down to the inconsistencies of cooling that is much inferior but more important subject to ambient temps.... -------------------------------------------------------- @Talon No AL refresh till March/April.... https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200k-plus-and-200hx-plus-arrow-lake-refresh-expected-in-march-april --------------------------------------------------------- Second 265k + Strix-A + Vengeance 9200 DDR5 9066 G4 @ 1.51v pass One reason more voltage than the rated 1.45v is XMP won't work with the profile tWR set to 138 which was outlandish and every single Asus board (AYW, Strix-A, Apex) refused to boot with that setting so I went ham with it down to 48. I will eventually work that back up and expect (in theory) for voltages to be a little more forgiving. Once I see where G4 tops out, I'll go back and start working up from 8800 (8667 already passed) in G2 on this second 265k

I'm waiting to hear from users here who want to collaborate on releasing more updated and better-developed versions. I'm not a programmer, just an enthusiast. I'm doing this quick fix so you can continue enjoying the modification. In case of another hotfix or minor update, I'll release it. I use my MSI GT60 with this software every day.

Made By: solidus1983 (hacktrix2006) and djlenior, Updated by FrancoTecno Status: Untested Release Repack: Yes Downgrade/Update: Update and Hotfix Disclaimer: This Driver Modification is for MSI Systems listed below! Myself nor NotebookTalk or any other members of the project will not be held liable for any damage caused if this is installed on your system or other branded systems! Due to this being a Modified Driver, support will not be given via Nahimic (SteelSeries) or MSI if your having issues please post in the thread! FrancoTecno comment; due its a RAR file, i dont submit a VirusTotal test. you can manually inspect files and code from this or scan it with virus total, main source code is created by @solidus1983. i only modified it to make this working in 2026. Installer: Download Here (ONLINE!) Package includes: Realtek UAD 6.0.1.9585.1 Nahimic 1.10.9.0 UWP Nahimic SWC 3.7.2.0 (APO3) Nahimic SWC 4.11.6.0 (APO4) Nahimic Extension 1.1.44.0 (APO3) Nahimic Extension 1.5.51.0 (APO4) Nahimic Mirroring Driver 2.0.5.0 Realtek Audio Console UWP 1.32.261.0 For Windows 10 Build: 21H1/22H2 For Windows 11 Builds (But may be issues) Change Log : Updated Nahimic SWC on APO3 and APO4 Updated Nahimic Extension on APO4 only Updated Nahimic UWP app Modified Uninstall Script Minor text details Supported Systems with this driver pack: Same as latest Solidus release (See page 9 at latest solidus release) Install instructions: Disconnect from the internet. (Not Required, so very Optional) Reboot System and Enter BIOS/UEFI. Please DISABLE SECUREBOOT in your BIOS this is now important for this new installer! Once you have booted back into the OS Temporarily disable AV software (Some Anti-Virus tools might false report and delete the file!). Uncompress .ZIP file and Run "Launch.EXE" Select either Full Install, Install Without Nahimic, Full Uninstall or Downgrade Nahimic 3. Sit back and relax as the UWP's get uninstalled, the driver gets uninstalled and then your system is rebooted into test signing mode and everything is installed and your system is rebooted again! Now head back into your BIOS/UEFI and Re-enable SecureBoot!! Now let the system boot up fully and re-enable the internet connection. (Only if you disconnected from the internet) ***[IMPORTANT]**** As i no longer have a MSI Laptop with APO4. This hotfix and update was tested only in APO 3. I wait user results and testing. This hotfix release is mainly to fix APO3 buggy and outdated driver causing problems in newer Nahimic UWP app versions. I await user feedback and help to release more updated and better builder versions. this is a It's a hotfix released rather quickly without so much elaboration. Expect bugs for this release

It is really hard, at least for me, to find any contentment with air cooling or AIO after being comfortable with a custom loop for so many years. I tried because it is way cheaper and much easier on the wallet, but I find myself very unhappy with an air cooled CPU or GPU at this point and I normally find that I am ready to be done with the idea within the first day or two. Using an AIO is a slight improvement, but still not nearly as good. The ideal setup would be a clean and enclosed/ventilated area of crawl space or an unfinished room in a cool basement for the chiller with QDC fittings attached to a plate on the floor with a light switch to turn the chiller on and off. You would need an extra pump or two (or just one crazy powerful pond pump) to handle the gravitational effect of the added vertical height of the tubing runs, but it would be worth it.

Finally got a response back from HP re: CPU fan header, they confirmed my theory and advise not running dual fans of that jst cpu socket, only fan control and tach, but run the 5v feed elsewhere (assume USB +ve rail or DVD pin) so only two pins go to header. Can anyone share what DVD pin I pickup from?

Sooo did anyone ever find out if this would also fit the 30 series cards? :)) Currently trying to buy a P775 30 series heatsink and they somehow all vanished from the internet (except for the 250 euro one from Aliexpress...) :))

That first 265k was an SP77 (which isn't bad) but the IMC was atrocious. I just popped the second open box in with the much better IMC into the Strix-A and it is an SP83 It is also running cooler and pulling less than the SP77 even during TM5 runs.... Crazy how a 140mm fan with direct airflow down can make such a difference. Look at those temps. Without the fan, they pushed to 70+ where they eventually error out... Confirmed this Strix-A has no problems with 8800 while the Apex was bombing out with fans keeping the temps sane at even 8667..... Strix passed 8933 G4 w/ 1.49v on memory with the Vengeance sticks getting that full throttle 140mm fan love: Like I said, Apex was crashing out on even 8667. Welp, I gave the open box a try and worse case scenario is I have to return it for being defective so back it goes within the next week.... tl;dr first 265k and apex open boxes are dog water for my criteria... ----------------------------------------------------- MSI 5090 Lightning on LN2....

569€ without a GPU, has 32GB RAM and i7 3840QM with dual heatpipe cooling for the CPU.

Yeh I think the issue is the configurator all of units we ordered have the quick access bottom door, it wasn’t easy to tell from the quotes initially. On the Uk configurator it is listed under chassis options as Dell Pro Max 18 Plus Quick Access Bottom Door

Not exactly true. The basic frame and chassis was the same since 2021, in 2022-23 only the Pro versions with the RTX3050 had some elementary dual cooling with the fans next to each other. But the 2024 Meteor Lake Pros changed the case completely, the dual cooling is more efficient, bigger heat pipes, fans wide apart and the dual fans were also applied to the non dGPU models. Also they had already bigger speakers and the 2025 models have twice the amount of speakers. The lower screen bezel is bigger and there is a bigger gap between the keyboard and the screen, improving even more the airflow. But the laptop is a bit deeper also and the screen stays higher, so it does not stay aligned anymore with the LG View portable monitor (this is a bummer for me). They also dropped the mini SD card reader. So basically, except the Aerominum and the new processors, all changes are just incremental. And as RS4 already wrote, probably they are killing the non Pro 16-17 versions, which was about time because their one fan thermal throttling was only causing dissatisfied customers. Prices probably will be absurdly high, but if you wait, the Grams depreciation is always quite steep. The AI bubble will soon bust, Crucial/Micron will regret abandoning retail customers, and IT companies will beg consumers to buy.

I just saw this thread which is recently active. It looks like you're better off with the comparable Precision:

Thanks - that is a big surprise to find all of these for download on the bottom of the revision history page! I had a look at the release notes and it may be possible that I do not need to go back that far but we shall see. In any case it is great news to be able to have that option and I will download the files for posible later use.

Hi I am looking for keyboard controller for clevo x170 but seller which I found need photo of other side of that board to check something - if anyone have this board please attach the photo of the other side

Hi @strijrator Were you able to control the laptop’s fans with this fan control software?: https://github.com/djsubtronic/ClevoFanControl Yes I have use it, it works relatively fine. Had to apply and test it a couple of time to see it was working at the set curves. Also, I have found the app in the microsoft store that comes with the control center to control the laptop’s rgb, but I don’t know if it works without the control. I didnt know AppStore had a Control Center for RGB. Then I should try and test it. Thank you for the Information.

Definitely interested but at this stage it would prove difficult to set up logistically to avoid dumping the heat back in my room. One of the family members may be moving out and getting their own place next year, if we keep this place I can put basically all the heat generation and removal in that room and run some longer hoses and pumps. If we get a different place then I'll just look to getting a bigger bedroom. It would also give me some time to go through what I have for GPU's and start a passive search for more waterblocks to replace the stock heatsinks I have as I already know Im going to stay on water. The 7900 Xtx is purring at 3.1Ghz for now, I think I'll need to use the evc2se for 3.2Ghz. It's crashing at 3150 but I'm hoping that's just due to sudden spiking outside the power limit. Hopefully I can push 3500 for synthetic benching.

I did it but nothing has changed. It is really weird because even if I change resulution of the game for the lower one from full HD fps stays the same. It looks like the system can't go further with fps no matter what. I thought maybe I could change CPU for example i9-11900k. Now I have i9-10900k but in cinebench R20 it gets normal results around 5899 points on 4,6Ghz. Maybe i should compare results with someone else with the same laptop in specific game. Maybe this problem can be seen only in games. Maybe the power zone is not working properly, or maybe the system is simply old and cannot handle the same titles.

Hi @Teo Thanks for the info the Overclock settings and Fans control are mess up Were you able to control the laptop’s fans with this fan control software?: https://github.com/djsubtronic/ClevoFanControl Also, I have found the app in the microsoft store that comes with the control center to control the laptop’s rgb, but I don’t know if it works without the control center: https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nhg85rqczn0?hl=en-US&gl=US

Hi @strijrator Man I wish I knew another software to control the RGB on the laptop, ”control center” does not work well so I tried many other Clevo vendors software and yeah, the Overclock settings and Fans control are mess up, rgbopen does not work well for me so I kind of gave up, left my laptop without it. I am thinking to search again, see some other forums if anyone has manage to get a fix. I don’t know if is because this is Origin laptop mixed with XMG bios then the software cannot find the right device ID. Something does not match or their software is terrible? If I find anything I will post.