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There is never a shortage of insanely overpriced trash made for the dumbest people in the world. A year or two ago I would not have believed there would be a human being dumb enough to pay that for a mouse, but now I know they are real and there are enough of them to be dangerous to all of the people or ordinary or greater intelligence. https://www.overclock.net/posts/29556653/

My laptop uses an LVDS internal panel, if I’m not mistaken, and the display signal is routed through the iGPU via NVIDIA Optimus rather than a direct dGPU output. That said, I mostly run it with an external monitor over DisplayPort. I rarely game on the internal display while mobile - in those cases, it’s mainly used for productivity work. With my previous Quadro RTX 3000, I didn’t notice any significant LVDS or Optimus-related bottleneck. Performance was nearly identical between the internal panel and the external monitor. In any case, now that I’ve installed the new card, I’ll see how it behaves in real-world use.

Do you need a new mouse? 🙄 It's inflation in the branding "Limited Edition" nowadays. Razer try also to maximize profits from stupids. Razer plans to sell 1,337 units of its new limited edition gaming mouse for $1,337 each

Thank you for your help. I guess I’m still a bit surprised that a keyboard where each key can be assigned an RGB value is still considered a 4Zone keyboard? Do I understand that right? It also sounds like we have the same model, the Origin EON17-X, correct?

What do you do for drivers, just use the generic Intel ones? Also, what OS are you running?

Hello. Does your laptop have eDP too? Or just LVDS? Because this thread is only for eDP laptops, dGPU at full performance. LVDS is limiting the newest cards a lot sadly. RTX 4060 from X-VSION has a good vbios, it'll work with eDP without any EDID override!

I've received my Gram 16 Pro 2025 with Lunar Lake 256v today from Amazon Warehouse in Like new condition. As far as I can tell it was never used before - but package shortly opened and then directly returned. 1104€ made it worth it. I had to be below 1200€ inckluding VAT for writing it off on my business. The CPU power limits can be set in the bios, but it's not respected. However they can be successfully modified with Throttlestop - so setting 35/45 for example isn't a problem. However the cooling for me doesn't manage more than 35w continously without throttling. I haven't found out how to change Prochot offset to 0 from the default 8° (in order to increase CPU temp limit to 100° instead of 92° which LG set - this should be possible via advanced bios somehow. Battery size is fully charged is 79630Wh - so 103.4% of indicated. That is very nice as LG isn't good at all in this regard and ofen battery in new gram have less fully charged capacity vs design capacity. It had 0 cycles so clearly is brand new. I think I will need to repaste the CPU with Arctic MX-5 or MX-6 as I am about 5% lower in benchmarks even with PL1/PL2 limits removed vs say notebookcheck on Cinebench R23 Multi. It still has the old cooler. Only the RTX 5050 Gram Pro 2025 already has the vastly improved new coolers (lighter and 25% stronger at same power use). I guess If I find out how to remove the Prochot offset of 8° and repaste the CPU around 45w constant power draw should be possible instead of the 35-36w right now (each measure helping 5w or so I estimate) Yeah the pro has a stiffer bottom part vs the old LG Gram. The display however is still just as flimsy - the new 2026 Aerominium are much better in this regard. And even though the production date The speakers are much much better vs my old LG gram, or well say louder. My old Gram the display clearly lost brightness - at around 30% on the new it equals 100% on my old. That is something which will always happen as displays age - the get less bright - so after nearly 5 years of using my old Gram it has done it's job. I think also the speakers got less loud over time - also something usually happening. For the form factor - I would have prefered the old - the slimmer design for me isn't a good trade for 1cm deeper size. But yes I understand only because it's slimmer it's much more stable vs the non Pro lg Gram. The reason it's more stable is the battery helping tremendously in stability vs the non Pro grams. Out of the box however quite a few things weren't working well. It wouldn't enter C3 or lower states on the CPU - dunno what advanced bios setting I changed but now it goes nicely into C10 and CPU package power goes down to 0.6w on idle instead of 1.2w before. Also note that HIPM DIPM isn't activated out of the box - wasting a lot of power. So you need to add that registry entry to show up in the power plan and put the NVME into lowest. Otherwise you burn at least 0.5w additionally. Yes I would have prefered the 5050 RTX version - but that would have been at least 70% more expensive. The same likely will go for the really far superior new 2026 LG gram with Panther lake. They have a new OLED that is better vs the older OLED displays, another 15% better battery life, 50-60% more CPU power, 100% more GPU power but will be much more expensive. I really would like the new Aerominium case. While I can see in Korea you can get a keyboard for the 2026 already - which will mean turning the lower body into Aerominum - for the screen this will be very expensive. Also the bottom is still plain magnesium I think - it's only the Display case and the upper part (the one with the keyboard) that is now Aerominium. If I had the money for the 5050 version I would wait for the 2026 Panther lake which except if your a gamer is the far superior notebook overall. I haven't yet migrated my old 2TB disk into this one - that should help battery life a bit too - as the 980 Pro is pretty power hungry. I'll actually try hot swapping in my old drive. Let's see how that goes. My old 2021 Gram was at it's limit on 4K UHD playback with UHD monitor connected - no worries here now of course. Often the main thing slowing out an older laptop are video codecs that have no hardware decoding. Well Lunar Lake has H266 hardware decoding - but it will not have AV2. Likely that won't make it before 2027 into any laptop. That's kinda the biggest drawback in a couple of years if you get a Lunar lake based notebook. Placement of the primary NVME drive below the CPU: Do not use this placement for your primary drive - but only for data grab. Being so close to the CPU it gets too hot. This is actually a little bit (5mm or so) better then 5050 mainboard. It is much better on the standard LG gram. Otherwise you may quite likely fry your NVME. I'm not sure if it's possible to install some sort of barrier there by putting a small rubber insulator there. I really wonder that no one so far noticed this. But it's pretty apparent when running a continours benchmark and then looking at the NVME temperature. It hit's 60 without any actual load if the CPU plugs along at 92°... Edit: so it worked to just plug in my old harddrive. Steps to do: 1. you need a USB mouse. 2. Change boot order and move old disk to spot 1 in bios, best remove fingerpring login and any other login before moving the drive - else you will need to cut power three times while booting to get into boot option, boot in safe mode with networking - change a registry setting, reboot, use the physical mouse to click on other sign in option and select password... Then install the new LG updater for the current model (the old program is useless now) - install all updates. 5. Make sure under settings --> apps --> optional features --> to install windows hello facial --> reboot plently of times and run windows update --> after 3 hours everything was working without fresh windows installation. Power options were messed up again - so need to set in registry all the options especially AHCI link and again select lowest - as otherwise it defaults once again to HIPM only. Last step - get a new windows license used and activate windows. Somehow you will need to login back to many places - and still reactivate the 2nd factor authentication from fingerprint now to facial. For me that still saves plenty of hours vs a fresh installation of windows 11 madness.

Hi, thanks for your reply. I received an RTX 4060 from Xvision today. I’ll try modding a heatsink over the next few days to run some tests and share feedback for the MSI GT60. My laptop uses Optimus, so I shouldn’t run into too many issues. I previously had a Quadro RTX 3000 installed and it worked without any problems. I didn’t go with the 4070 since these machines tend to get heavily CPU-bottlenecked anyway.

lol, my very old Dell E7440 had coating that disintegrated. Looked and felt horrible > time to throw the laptop in the bin :O) But scratched it away with a piece of plastic (softer than the main plastic frame under the coating). Long ago, maybe ? also used some elctronic contact cleaner, which did not attack anything other than the coating. Then polished with fine 800 (or was it 400) sandpaper. Was a job over time, nice finish in the end.

Thanks, so no fans, or they wouldn't be needed anyway. I'd already read the forum, but thanks anyway. Unfortunately, since I don't know anyone who delid processors, I think I'll just use PTM or Helios pads. That heatsink is interesting, if only it didn't cost as much as a PC. The 0.5mm pads are interesting, maybe I can evaluate them, but I think I'll need to apply a layer of thermal paste to dissipate well. Thanks.

Tools like SpeedFan or HWiNFO64 can manually control the fan in this system. If you use one of those, can you get the fan to turn on?

Yes, didn't you see the link? It could be compatible with a big range of GPU formats, even the latest and newest Blackwell GPUs from Aetina/Zotac, so it could also be a 3 in 1 since we have 8 holes for the x-bracket. Please help cicichen by purchasing one of his heatsinks! It's cheaper than making your own 3D model and submit it to a company.

Must be the #1. I hope there is not a different version of it for Origin X-170KM-G I haven’t gotten that far analyzing it, I really can’t tell. I haven’t bought any replacement or spares for my laptop. I only have dissembled a couple of time. It is weird that none of the seller can’t be more specific which model to use “A” or “B” keyboard. I cannot guarantee anything, the best way it will be to open the laptop and confirm by yourself, it can be a hit miss. The bottom has 8 screws and the keyboard 2 from within. It has indicator where which one is the keyboard screw. It has some pressure clips just try to push the keyboard out from inside of casing under fan base you can see the keyboard back or from the top try to pull it out. Just be careful dont put too much strength to it, and be careful with ribbon cable, they are kind of short. All the best.

The M4800 + M2000M was installed and the driver was installed normally. However, GPU FAN is not working. Running diagnostics causes a 20000-0511 error. After removing the FAN, it was confirmed that the FAN operates normally when power is supplied from the outside. Is there any way to solve this issue or anything else I need to check? I look forward to your kind reply.

Hi all, was on Notebookreview before and just see it have closed ? I just received this laptop and versus my old M18x R1 R2 and the 2013 one, Dell bios seem more shitty then in the paste. I try pushing the power limite in the ACC for the RTX 2070 but it locked at 0% ... anothers things, is there a good vbios to have ? What shuntmod can give on this special card ? If it not complicated where and what we need to do ?

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I did get curious about formal Xfire/SLI + Lossless, if you set Dynamic framerate target then one might be able to mitigate some of the failings of that method of generating preferable framerates. It'll have to wait until I get my replacement motherboard but it would be an interesting experiment.

It is indeed the X170KM-G, subvendored by Origin. So it’s the 4Zone, that is, #1 above? Also, even though each key on the keyboard can set to an RGB color, this is still considered 4Zone?

You can get the BE200HMW, it works directly in our usual WLAN card slot without having to go through any adaptor. It supports WIFI 7 and Bluetooth v5.4. I have one on my M6800!

That's great news! Does it mean we can use this CPU heatsink to install the MXM B cards that is offset to towards the centre of the card? Also keep us updated on the more expensive option when it comes out!

ok so with lossless scaling you usually set the 1070 as the card the display is routed to while the 3080 is the 3d acceleration card . you can do this within windows by setting the 3d card in settings under graphics . i haven't done this on a laptop but on my desktop with 3080 ti 20gb and radeon pro ssg2 (radeon vii) with 32gb vram and nvme slots built in . i plug my display into my radeon pro and setting my 3080 ti as the 3d card . and in lossless scaling i set the card to generate frames as the radeon . its a weird thing and some games act weird but it works . there are youtube videos that can explain setting a laptop to do this better than i can lol

The Thermaltake Core W200 was an awesome case. I have always wanted one. In the rare circumstance I could even find one they were so ridiculously priced that I could not justify the cost. There have only been a couple that I am aware of. Even monster cases like the Corsair 1000D Obsidian only support mini-ITX for the second mobo and SFX for the secondary PSU. The Phanteks Enthoo 719 also only supports mini-ITX for the second mobo, but does support two ATX PSUs. I had a Thermaltake Level 20 XT E-ATX Extreme LCS Capable Split Level Modular Gaming Cube Case CA-1L1-00F1WN-00 that I purchased in 2019. It supported dual ATX PSUs and you could add a second ATX mobo tray. Those are also nowhere to be found. It was not crazy tall, but it was so huge from front to back that the feet would not fit on either of my desks. I had to put it sideways on the desk. It was my favorite case of all time except for the fact that it needed a dedicated desk just for the case. It was so gigantic that I just could not accommodate it in my tiny home office. If I had a bigger office I would never have gotten rid of it. It was amazing. You might just want to go with a server rack setup with two 4U chassis units that each support ATX/E-ATX boards, ATX PSUs and full sized GPUs. Leave the lid off (for GPU power cable clearance if necessary) and leave an empty space between them in the rack. Maybe a couple of units like this: https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rsv-l4500u-black/p/N82E16811147328?Item=N82E16811147328 and mount them in a rack. https://www.newegg.com/p/2BA-01UW-00010 A more expensive option (maybe not worth it compared to the Rosewill) would be two of these: https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-006F-001D2 mounted in a rack. Silverstone also makes an RM51 5U chassis, but you would be looking at $1,000-$1,200 (at the least) for a pair of them and a rack. https://www.provantage.com/silverstone-rm51~7SLST033.htm?source=googleps

I am pretty sure that the system will not accept 16gb sticks.

I'm very happy to see a fellow community member using Lossless Scaling in the exact fashion I do. This is something I've been promoting for a while, and I'm happy to see someone else interested in using Lossless Scaling to relive the days of SLI/Crossfire. This really is the way to better performance in games if you're super hungry for those frames but don't want to spend anything on new hardware. We can instead use what we already have! Cluster computing to increase performance in games is awesome. I use a combination of Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight to use two machines to render a game. Being able to take advantage of the combined performance of 2 computers to run your games is awesome! As an experiment, I think I'm going to see if a Tri-SLI/Trifire setup is possible this way. As I haven't tried that sort of a setup yet. I got a Radeon 9070 XT and a Radeon 9060 XT from Micro Center just before prices got to skyrocket, so I was able to get some hardware at those sweet discount prices. The 9060 XT was for my dad, but I'll be installing the 9070 XT in my desktop sometime soon when I find extra time. Currently, my desktop has a Radeon 6950 XT and an RTX 3080. I'm going to install the 9070 XT in my desktop and use that as my new render GPU, then use the RTX 3080 as my frame gen GPU. I'm going to install the 6950 XT in my second desktop (which currently has a GTX 1060) and pass those frames to my second desktop using Apollo + Moonlight, then perform another layer of frame gen on that input using a second instance of Lossless Scaling running on this machine. BAM! Triple GPU rendering baby! With some really awesome newer monitors coming out, I'm going to want the 1000 fps experience in every game, which should be achievable through a triple GPU setup using Lossless Scaling + Apollo + Moonlight. I actually really want the Thermaltake Core W200 case for my next build I will inevitably do sometime in the future, but it seems it's nowhere to be found anymore. I may have to just stick with 2 separate cases. Does anyone know of any other cases that can fit 2 ATX motherboards?