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The M15X is from 2010, uses the same first gen core i technology (45nm and 32nm) as the X7200 and it's able to use the GTX 980M or Quadro M5000M as the master card without any Intel Optimus. The M15X didn't have UEFI too, it's full LEGACY. So why can't the Clevo X7200 do the same? I'm sure there's a whitelist. A GPU whitelist that was updated when the Kepler 600 series were out. Presumably they added the whitelist because of the newer version from Clevo that was coming out, the P570WM. The P570WM LVDS could allow up to a GTX 980M and the P570WM3 could allow up to an RTX Ada in eDP. Which means that the P570WM doesn't have a whitelist for sure. How can we remove the whitelist? with a BIOS editor?

I've done that a dozen times with various keyboard models, always with good success. Even did it with models with kb backlight and mouse nub. It's pretty straightforward. Just remove the keyboard and completely submerge it in medium-hot water for a an hour or two. Maybe you also want to add some isopropyl alcohol after some time. Then dry it thoroughly with a towel and squish out all the excess water underneath the keys (and use centrifugal force to your advantage 🙂). Then use compressed air (like from a really strong compressor 🙂) to further blow out any remaining droplets until dry. Then put it on a towel and leave it for 24h (yes) on a radiatior to dry out completely. Should be as good as new after this. I was typing all of this on a zbook 17 g1 with a keyboard which had non-responsive keys and lagging input before this procedure.

For example, I use an Nvidia A400 at work. You could install that as well. Or Intel Arc cards. Depending on the available power, you can install many different cards. So all the major manufacturers—Nvidia, AMD, or Intel... The power target shouldn't be too high. Over 500W. But I think it’s clear to everyone that 500W is excessive for a laptop! 300–400W is more than enough to outperform today’s latest gaming laptops 🙂

That's right—that's how it's all set up. This allows you to use the laptop's existing cables, so you don't have to worry about that.... It might be hard to see from above, but there are two rows. That means, depending on the GPU's performance level, you can connect two cables and utilize the full GPU power of the P870xx—up to 450W!

Does the power board j ust take the existing GPU cable power lead and then break it off so you can power a standard GPU ?

I have never cleaned a laptop keyboard thoroughly before, only the keys themselves. The keyboard of my old Clevo P670 is sticky in parts and i want to clean the complete keyboard system and check every key for functionality. Is there a good tutorial available, especially for the Clevo ones or even my model?

Hello. I've been intrigued a lot about why anything above GTX 680M Kepler won't work on this LVDS X7200 laptop? For example Quadro K3100M, GTX 780M, 880M, 970M, 980M won't work in the master slot, despite having the same LVDS port for the internal screen. These cards do support legacy and legacy oprom. Even I got a GTX 970M, 980M and Quadro P5200 to work in the slave slot! With Legacy and UEFI VBIOSes. The BIOS recognized them as the 2nd NVIDIA GPU. Even the RTX 4070 MXM was detected!! So my point is... There's maybe a whitelist of GPUIDs for the master slot. But some could say that the GTX 700M to 900M needs some partial support for UEFI in order to work and display... Even though these generations support both legacy and UEFI. It's not about the LVDS port. It's about the BIOS. Is there a way to remove the GPU whitelist from that Phoenix BIOS? So we can add a GTX 980M as the best card in terms of LVDS compatibility? I see that the Alienware M17X R3 and M18X R1 could support up to an GTX 780M and GTX 880M for the master slot. Even the 1st gen core i M15X can support up to a GTX 980M... Any bios modders? Prema? Svl7? Baked?

Agree with every statement you made. MSI > ASUS as a company, but MSI < ASUS for firmware and overclock focus. EVGA had them all beat, but now they are irrelevant. What is so stupid is MSI marketed this motherboard as being targeted for overclocking, especially memory overclocking, then they do something extra stupid and gimp the firmware options related to memory overclocking. What the heck? Nuts. Conceptually same as the Lightning. "Hey guys, here is this extremely expensive GPU designed for extreme overclocking. You won't find out you're getting screwed until you buy it. Core is not binned, and no... no XOC BIOS for you. Only our chosen few. Hurry... buy it... quantities are limited." Screw 'em. Scammer losers. And, now there is this... the good old days are gone for PC enthusiasts. At least until the AI bubble burst and they find out they actually DO need us. Right now we're getting shafted left and right. Gee, thanks Lisa Su. Witch. Speaking of AI... LFG...

Have the best, easily unlock enabled laptop bios this side of Prema, but purposely lock down the bios on the MSI B850M POWER?? Look how long it took Asus to let the XOC run free (ish) and then we have the Lightning situation. I get the position of both that in the wrong hands both can drastically increase the chances of wrecking cards but still.... I still prefer Asus BIOS over MSI. EVGA > ASUS > MSI. Still prefer MSI over Asus as a company.... Big ups to @svet!

geeez so basically just unlocking bios functions that should be there in the first place 😄 almost sounds like were back in the Clevo / Alienware days, just on desktop....now THAT shouldnt be a thing ugh

Contact the seller, maybe they also have the specific heatsink for the P5200 in stock. Yes, Goofish is a viable place to acquire parts depending on the seller. To purchase and ship the products to your country, you will need an import agent

MSI, in typical MSI fashion, has dropped the ball on their BIOS development. They mysteriously omitted the AMD CBS menus and sub-menus, so there are lots of tweaks that were not accessible with the stock BIOS. It has taken a couple of days worth of mods and testing to get them added back. So, basically restoring expected function and features. It's really ridiculous that it was not present because it is an AMD firmware default menu option AFAIK. Couple this with how they behaved with the 5090 Lightning BIOS and insisting that Techpowerup take it down from their GPU BIOS database makes it hard to respect their brand in my mind. The MSI brand is all about show, not go. There was a recent article on this that got little attention. I tried to contact @flashhez and @chew and got no response, but Svet (the MSI Forum guy) came to the rescue. The world needs more people like Svet and Prema. Enthusiasts have unlocked hidden overclocking menus on the MSI B850MPOWER motherboard

interesting, what kinda tweaks / targets / scope do you guys have in mind for the mod?

Have been working with Svet for a B850MPOWER BIOS mod. It's shaping up quite nicely. Will have to see how 8400 works.

Going on @Vladka76 view of using the Clevo Cable +HP DC + etc etc. And please correct me if im wrong, I assume standard 30pin layout, data pins etc. So no "magic" happens at the display panel as e.g LG panel exists in Dell, Clevo, etc there should be standardised (except for mounting points) the only change would be the DC board doing the converting. could we not use a "other" brand solution? one thats more available than the "unobtainium" DC board? probably overthinking it here. I agree with the view of no need for 4K screen etc, but does that simplify it?

Yeah, basically. It refuses to boot with lid closed and being turned on via dock power button when a thunderbolt or display port output is hooked up to an external screen - however boots up fine in this scenario with only VGA connected. Always boots up fine though with thunderbolt, display port and VGA connected and lid being open 🙂. I presume I can't run dgpu mode only (or hybrid graphics disabled, as the setting is called in bios) anyway, therfore I won't try 😜, as this would end up in a black screen also. Whether I have the setting on automatic or hybrid graphics enabled does not make a difference with this behaviour.

That's odd, so the laptop refuses to boot in your scenario ? But it does in the same scenario + VGA ? You are running dGPU mode or Hybrid graphics ?

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After spending a good 4+ years with my Clevo X170SM-G, powered by a binned 10900K delidded + liquid metal cpu, 128 GB of overclocked Corsair HyperX memory, 2080 super and a premamod overclockable bios, I am finally upgrading. The laptop is still a monster to say the least but my requirements have surpassed the capabilities of the 2080 super which is why I am moving to a Lenovo Legion 7 Pro with AMD Ryzen 9 9955HX3D + 96 GB RAM + RTX 5080. Sad to abandon this beast though, since it still looks like a brand new machine (always used with external mouse and keyboard) and the RGB is still gorgeous + body is scratchless and the battery backup is still like it is brand new. But hey, we have to move on in life eventually. Memories of notebookreview forum created a bit of nostalgia for me when buying the new machine (in white color this time)

On the way for early 1 months vaccation outside Africa - Canary Island. Me and my lovely wife leave Norway today🙂 Finally we can have some warm and heating sun after many months in the cold and the dark here home in the North. But I will follow my good friends on the forum. I will use an phone and an tablet. So @Reciever bear with me. Not easy posting with the tiny trash. So please merge posts into one if needed. But I'll try my best. Double up. Nice with native 12V-2*6 cables. Can't beat double the stupidity on one single cable.

Just checked out that link, but it's for the p3200/p4200 which I already have. Can't seem to find the unique p5200 version. Is that website a viable place for parts? How would I even be able to get it shipped out to CONUS?

Someone at oc.net said the same. It works normal for me. If you tried it more than once and it does nothing it may be something Windows is blocking for some reason, or maybe a BIOS setting. Hard to know. It works for me on the B850MPOWER, Strix and Apex.

Thanks JadeRover for expanding in more precise detail. Of course I was aware of the MUX business when I wrote "don't know how this works exactly". What I meant was that e.g. I am not aware of the lanes bottleneck. What I understood thus far is that the igpu in the zbook 17 G1/2 can't drive a 10-bit panel. One rather curious thing I found with this RTX3000 version of mine (presumed as ADLINK as I mentioned, bought in 04/2025) is that you cannot switch on the laptop on the docking station with the lid closed and any display port or thunderbolt port output connected to an external screen, maybe also VGA, not sure atm. - no matter directly on the laptop, or on the dock - because this will cause the UEFI/Bios to lock up, or "fail to post" for a lack of a better expression. It does post just fine however connected to dock and nothing connected, or when switching it on with external outputs connected and the lid open. Probably some handshake going awry somewhere... I think I could easily solve this be removing the lid switch magnet from the display bezel, but for the moment I am not too bothered by this to actually test out this theory... Edit: curiousity got the better of me, I checked and it works with lid closed and VGA only hooked up.

That is the correct, Zbook 17 g1 uses a mux switch between dGPU and iGPU that goes to the eDP connector on the motherboard. Then that eDP signal is converted to LVDS and fed to the panel, they probably did this as 17.3 inch eDP panels were rare in 2013, they used off the shelf LVDS ones instead. HOWEVER, iGPU has only 2 lanes of eDP (you can see that on the schematic) and the dGPU has the full 4. When you have a DC screen it needs 4 lanes of eDP, all other stock screens require only 2. So with a stock screen BIOS will give you option for Hybrid graphics enable/disable. When DC screen is plugged in, BIOS sees this and immediately disables hybrid graphic option and forces display through dGPU = no display if you don't have a dGPU installer or the dGPU you installed has no eDP OR it has DP (display port) but wit no backligh control pins = Black screen. HP RTX3000 does have eDP on the correct port, DP_D so this card should work on the zbook 17 g1. I will test this soon as I have HP RTX3000 andzbook 17 g2. Also here is an even cheaper RTX3000 (close to France in Europe) : Nvidia Quadro RTX3000 6 Go GDDR6 N19E-Q1-KD-A1 (HP ZBOOK 17 G6) | eBay 90 euros

Sorry for the tripple post, I managed to fumble my way through the captcha on a Russian forum and came across a tool that allows you to unlock the XMG bios options at boot, its locked again after rebooting but your settings stay saved! Each time you need to change a setting just pop the USB stick in, spam F7 at boot until the options come up and select the drive, it'll hang for a minute whilst it runs the script and then throw you into your BIOS options with all settings unlocked. To unlock voltage control in ThrottleStop I needed to disable VM-X, VT-D, CFG Lock and overclocking lock. Absolutely no idea why this laptop in particular is such a pain. Good news though, after updating to the XMG 1.07.09 bios and 1.07.04 EC from the Pc Specialist 1.07.01 Bios/EC its considerably more stable, I'm only on an 11900F so I'm limited to the stock speeds but it means I can now hold a -85mV core and -70mV cache undervolt @4.7ghz all core clocks, I've not tried pushing the undervolt further because at minimum fan speeds I can chill at 35c GPU/CPU and during CPU stress testing it holds 70c until the turbo timer kicks in where it'll drop to 62c. Roughly translated guide for this tool is below, I hope its okay to share this here, as always with these tools proceed at your own risk. Srep_X170KM-G.zip