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The VBIOS comes from a Clevo X370SN. You sure the eDP is not in D? Then this is so strange.
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DP_B on that vbios so maybe this is the wrong vbios. 95.03.3E.00.16 I have that 4090, need to figure out x-bracket issue. Also it had a 4090 ASUS mobile ROM which caused 6 beeps.
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Talon replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Pass for sure. Sometimes I have to wonder what Intel is thinking. -
Go dsanke bios. Same as Prema at a functional level.
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A while has passed, more research and observation was made. Out of the blue, I noticed something I've never been paying attention before. The PCH temperature field in my HW monitoring program. And I made a bad conclusion: the PCH continuously runs at 102-103°, sometimes reaching 106+°! All the time! (see image 1). This effectively renders it as the hottest-running component on the entire MB! I also noticed that doing Fn+1 gradually lowers PCH temps to 90-95° and then they sit in this range. But then what, need to be in Fn+1 mode all the time? For the temps that are not extreme but are still very high? Combined with the fact that the component that bricked my PC was PCH (see image 2 where two images are combined), I made the following assumptions: No proper thermal handling of PCH in all laptops, which might be one of the main reasons why laptops' MBs die. - In all laptops, no proper cooling of PCH is bad but is taken by laptop manufacturers as normal-by-design. Sadly, Clevo is among the bad guys that haven't done anything in this direction. - For proper thermal handling, the placement of PCH should have been on the other side of MB where airflow actually exists, not under the keyboard (see images 2, 3, 4). - Or even better, it could have been moved to under-the-heatsink location, so that the heatsink was actively cooling it, and the owner could apply thermal paste not only to CPU and GPU but also to PCH. - My PC got bricked because of 7 years of continuous use with this design flaw and with PCH always running as hot as 100-107°, which caused the chip to fail permanently one day. Custom PCH thermal handling solution/mod is really needed, especially in powerhouses like P751/P775/P870, in order to make them live much longer. Look at how the situation is out of the box, on images 2, 3, 4. Unfortunately I have no idea about how to measure the distance between the PCH's metallic cover layer and the barebone's metallic frame below the keyboard. And this is important to know to proceed. Generally, I have several ideas that come into mind are: 1. Putting a good silicon thermal pad of the right thickness right on the PCH's metallic cover layer, so that it aso touches the barebone's metallic frame, thus thermally connecting PCH to it and helping to keep it cooler by using the barebone as one big heatsink. 2. Finding some thin copper heat-dissipator-style heatsink that can be applied on PCH in CPU-style (with thermal paste like MX4) and would fit between the PCH and the barebone's frame, and bending its copper "arm"/heatpipe in a way that it touches the metallic frame, thus again "leaking" the heat to the barebone's frame. Honestly, I don't think such thin solo CPU-style heatsinks exist. 3. <..?..> Are my assumptions correct? Are there any other ideas for thermally connecting PCH to the metallic frame under the keyboard? PS: To roughly estimate the distance from PCH to the frame, i stuck 3 1mm pieces of double-sided tape together, put them on the PCH, and put the top laptop cover with KB-bay back, to finally get this stacked tape block stuck to the metallic frame, which means that the distance (and the needed thermal pad thickness for the idea №1 above) is 2.5mm < x <= 3mm. See images 5, 6. As I know, such a thick thermal pad of 3mm thickness won't make it any better, so the idea №1 above needs to be modified or discarded (am i right?).
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I would keep the Astral 5090 too at this point with the market being the way it is. In the end, you're gonna be able to sell it for at worst what you paid, but most likely a touch more. As for the Astral 5080, there were a few locally for sale for $1500 and $1400 that languished for awhile before I'm sure sold for a touch less I saw when I was shopping for a potential 5090 for my D20 SFF build in case I didn't want to go with the 9070xt . Most I would pay for a 5080 anything would be $1200 but that's just me. It's just finding the right buyer. On the other hand, Astral 5090s or anything 5090 sell quickly even at insane prices. After having gamed back and forth on a 5080 2x (5090FE, MSI 5080 gaming), 5090 3x (Astral, Ventus, Vanguard) and a 9070xt 2x (Gigabyte Gaming, Powercolor Red Devil) at 4k, there's just no way I could settle with anything but a 5090 on my main rig and I know it. I love the two 9070xt's in our household, but reality is what it is. ----------------------------------------------------- 9070xt finally makes a VERY small dent. Nvidia is simply godmode. Performance will always rule the day period.... AMD continues to erode Intel's hold on Steam..... parity could come next year. Years ago, I never, ever thought AMD would ever truly put a meaningful dent in Intel's CPU domination let alone be on the cusp of equaling or beating them...wow https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-rx-9070-xt-and-rx-9060-xt-appear-in-steam-hardware-survey-for-may ------------------------------------------------------- Raptor Lake refresh with no Bartlett desktop.....pass: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-to-launch-core-200-raptor-lake-next-in-2027-for-lga-1700-socket ---------------------------------------------------------- Another day, another "High endurance / High thermal" adapter succumbs to the 12vhpwr monstrosity.... https://videocardz.com/newz/corsair-gpu-power-bridge-rated-for-up-to-105c-melts-on-rtx-4090-founders-edition -
@ssj92 Got it https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xt0R8L33k5xgRKVUs2Kbt54Da6Ra5Kf_/view?usp=drivesdk This is the early version of the 4090 VBIOS. Could you tell us if the DCB is different than the latest 4090 VBIOS? VBIOS version number? Can't check because I have no computers there, can only be available in 4-5 days 😞Thanks
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Jason from X-Vsion told me something interesting. Their early version of the 4080 and 4090 (black PCB with some capacitors on the X-bracket way) have full eDP support on D. It used some Clevo VBIOS that I can't find. @janepahas the Black PCB version.
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tps3443 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That’s why the 5080 astral is really worth the money in my opinion. Especially if you can get one for like $1,500 bucks. The cooling and build quality is top notch. Mine is a lottery loser. But getting the 5090 Astral made me only appreciate it even more, because they are literally indistinguishable from one another in weight/size/feel. I discovered that the 5080 with 2x FG on performed identically to the 5090 with FG off in many titles. BTW I’m keeping the 5090 Astral. 😂 Amazing GPU. Gaming on this thing is where it’s at. Brute force FPS! Epic power! - Yesterday
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yeah, I always kept an eye on it. Early on, it was such a great feature to have and still is. With the advent of the WireView Pro 2 and integration with HWinfo along with warning and shut down mechanisms and warranty, it does add a nice bit of piece of mind. I love hitting certain parts of WoW and watching those bars spike and comparing the on display readouts of wattage with reported wattage, seeing if the internal fan kicks on and more. Astral 5090 is a fantastic card. I think I said when I returned mine I had ZERO complaints and I do mean zero.....except the price. 🤣 Now look at the market...silly me. Like I said, I also think the Astral is one of the best looking 5090's on the market easily. I love everything about its thick slabular design. Even how the lighting strip lights up on power up. Feels very Blade Runner like. One thing I miss dearly from the Astral 5090 is the zero fan mode was truly zero fans. The Ventus I had and the Vanguard will spin up for shiggles based on reported voltage even light browsing. In a quiet room, it is all I will hear is the low dull rumble of the fans on the GPU and that's it. -
Prema BIOS does not work on all systems, even if they are the same model. The protection is tied to each device’s Service Tag. Therefore, you need to contact Prema and send to him a dump file of your current BIOS so they can unlock the motherboard, reveal the hidden BIOS settings, and also apply their own internal BIOS optimizations and modifications.
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Maro97 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
Unfortunately, I wasn’t online while the benchmark was running, so I took a photo of it with my phone at the time -
I guess no one can help.
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TreeTopsRanch started following Turning off Bitlocker
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I'm thinking about turning off bitlocker on my Win 11 PC. Has anyone here done that after years of use? Is there a chance of loosing any data? I do have external backups but I don't always backup every file.
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Fair play mate, could you explain how you managed this? Have been reading into this but am struggling so would appreciate the help!
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Finally the new RTX MXM cards will work in our laptops!
SuperMG replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
@MELOCODI @SOYOON Hello. If you're still interested. It works, you can get them now. I made separate thread for the v2. Pictures and a video are available. M4800 and M6800 were the first subjects and the backlight + pwm control works. -
So i put my new GPU in and so far so good! The card itself was very nice looking. Way better than most "Frankenstein" cards ive seen. Didnt even have to put Vbios on it. Only tested slightly but I'll test it more though when i get more ptm 7950 since I didn't have enough of it to put on the card. At this point its just generic thermal paste that i dont want to use. that and I didnt want to wait for the x-bracket to get here, so i put in one from another card. Seems to fit okay. After gaming for a bit, it seems to run very good with it not going any higher than 42c, but i was playing dead Island from 2011. Even on its highest settings its not the best game to truly test it out, but like Durabat, im not that much of a gamer either. It will be tested more with Blender though since i do more of that than anything else and that should be a good test.
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tps3443 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Congratulations to you on getting healthier @Papusan! That's always a good feeling. I remember picking on people about the per pin monitoring. I knew if I had that, it would become a new thing to focus on (And it has). What we do not know, does not hurt us. This 5090 Astral is giving me a special kind of feeling though lol. The feeling that the 5080 Astral is not giving me. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
For them it's the heredity. Some have never been in work. But the common denominator is same lung illness. And none of those smoked much. 3 sisters have suffered the same fate of the disease. The same goes for my father (the brother). Also my sister (no smoker). The resemblance between them is quite clear. This illness is hereditary. But for me it can be from 3 reason as already mentioned. With triple reasons it is doomed to happen🤨 NVIDIA's connector story: EPS vs. 12VHPWR Connector – Good doesn't always win, but evil does more and more often (background information) | Retro The 12-pin connector as a space-saving art object Because Ampere also brought the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 and the RTX 3090 Founders Edition with their avant-garde shaped design to the market. All well and good, but where to put those space-hogging headers? When the PCB designer runs out of space, in the worst case scenario, this is compensated for by a great deal of audacity; others call it creative waste. The problem was that there simply weren't any suitable, upright headers available, not even from Molex in South Korea, who have been diligently producing connectors since 1984 and should know exactly what they're doing (or rather, what they're not doing). However, one thing is crucial here: this 12VHPWR connector was NOT developed by Molex, but rather under the leadership of Astron as a kind of derivative. Corsair GPU Power Bridge rated for up to 105°C melts on RTX 4090 Founders Edition My Corsair GPU Power Bridge (the angled adapter for the power cable) completely melted along the top row of pins. Because it got so hot, it actually melted and deformed the plastic power plug on my RTX 4090 Founders Edition as well. -
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Good job on that brother. Yeah sorry to hear about the lung problems. For your dad and sisterwas it entirely heredity or did they also do the same type of work that contributed to the problem? -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thanks, both. I have even go down in weight. Close to 5KG down in 3.5 weeks🙂 Target is 75 KG (184-185 height). So still need go down 18Kg. Then I have my cholesterol. I need to get it down from almost 5 to 1.4-1.8. Need to be that low due the increased stroke risk. Regarding broken lungs. The work I did, heredity and of course the smoke. so triple reasons for the problem. Papa,his sisters had same lung disease. Also my sister have it now. They have never smoked but still got same lung problems.