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Sure thing, but it offers no dedicated solution, and the repairability (after the warranty period) is non existent due to CPU+GPU being both not only soldered, but also fixed by an epoxy adhesive (Lenovo does it like this for the last 10 years). BGA repairs in this case are, in most cases, impossible. Thank you for such an elaborate reply to this issue. I have performed a clean uninstallation of all graphics drivers via DDU, then installed the newest iGPU driver (from Intel, not from Dell), then the Quadro/RTX PRO driver. I have installed Intel driver only, without CC, it does not cause dGPU switching. Disabled PSR via Registry. Battery seems to behave normal, will observe the behaviour during the upcoming days.

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I understand, thanks so much for the info sliderfra

Balanced power delivery between the two connectors? Can't do that. That would increase the costs of the PCB. The ROG MATRIX PLATINUM RTX 5090 800W VBIOS has been revealed! After resetting the settings, the total power target of 800W was still slightly off ( link ). HPWR2 should be the 16-pin connector on the graphics card, while HPWR1 is the 16-pin connector on the ROG X870E HERO BTF motherboard. The two account for approximately 70% and 33% respectively, which translates to 67% and 33% for a total power of 762W. This shocked many overclocking enthusiasts, as everyone was expecting a 50% 50% performance. And what you think will happen once China again can get whatever they want from Nvidia and AMD? Component shortages will increase further and push the prices on pc hardware to new height we have never seen. And China they wiill be delighted... They have more than enough of very cheap electricity to power whatever AI data centers/plants they fire up. And they should really send Trump an huge thank you, sir. And he will be so moved to tears that we will probably see some golden wet tears under the crown, LOL China's huge big fleet of tech engineers will make wonders with the better western tech to boost their military technologies. Greed, flattery and stupidity come at a huge price. Some is so stupid that they can't see it themself. Sad they don't know who'm they themself are. Maybe look into the "golden"mirror above the golden sink. I'm sure you will see stupidity. Fooled by Jensen and Xi Jinping. The United States wants to give NVIDIA back the ability to sell its GPUs to China.

Newegg is kicking off black friday pricing: 285k for $499 and includes $60 BF6 code AND a $125 MSI 360 cooler..... 265k for $259 and includes $60 BF6 code AND a $110 MSI 240 cooler.... -------------- Come Friday, I'm specifically on the hunt for the cheapest 9070xt, cheapest 285k/265k and maybe if the Corsair 1000w SF100 drops even lower. I think that's about it this year.....

Just watched it a bit ago..... Like I said before, these were available for pre-order from the USA Asus site for well over 6hrs. Sold out eventually, but clearly not in that normal demand window here in the states. As a check, I was at the "checkout" window every hour on the hour and could have checked out and picked one up very easily. Whoever designed it has a thing for phallic designs obviously.... I did like the fact you could detach the BTF connector and run it at 600w if you so desire if you can't or won't purchase an Asus exclusive BTF motherboard. Of course the downside is you might not be able to use the 800w but considering non BTF users are pulling 800w I'm curious to see if it will via 12v2x6 only. I am also curious to verify if it can do 600w via the BTF connector like the Astral BTF. Card design is basically the white Astral BTF with a few enhancements but de8auer is going to do some more testing about power delivery. That liquid metal application was atrocious and the barrier with paste only was a slap in the face. I expect a lot more on a $4k GPU. The cooling and especially fan improvements show Asus does know when they bork things up. It is just getting them to fix it.... Users with Asus 5090s that can't use the BIOS (IE, all of them except the white astral) need not hold their breath. There is zero chance Asus will release a revised bios that will allow their cards to suddenly become warranty possibilities and also piss off Jensen. I also would not be surprised if Asus patches their BIOS before shipping the next batches of cards to lock it down even further but at this point the cat is out of the bag. Outside of the balanced power delivery via both connectors and admittedly beefy cooler, there is no reason to buy one of these except if you're a fanboy which de8auer readily admitted he's a sucker for this type of stuff. Best thing is the 800w vBIOS. Not only lifting PL to 800w but also better overall clocks and stability. It is the new Gigachad vBIOS by far....unless you have an Asus card (sans white 5090) or Suprim 5090 AIO so far.... As soon as my Wireview Pro II comes in, I'm flashing this to my Vanguard 5090. Since it is a full fat 1.125v model that even when pulling ~630w in some scenarios can't break past 1.10v, I am fully looking forward to opening up as much of that 1.125v as possible in tandem to 800w......Vanguard already has very good cooling and even at 630w I'm sitting at mid to low 60's so bring on the high 60's low 70's! 🤣 Having picked up the Vanguard 5090 for $1971 was the icing on the cake. Returning the Astral 5090 on the last day of my 60 day window and getting a full ~$3600 refund back in early June? Priceless especially now. I would have been absolutely sick to my stomach at this point knowing how much I paid and not being able to flash this 800w vBIOS. I would be selling it off at a loss with just as much disgust as I sold off my 5080FE when I found out nothing could flash to it.

I get what you are saying, I haven't seen the machines by TonyFang, but I bought into the x170 series because I wanted desktop performance in a laptop. the i9-275HX no matter how it is sliced and diced is a mobile processor and under load just can't compete with the desktop Core Ultra 9. An intel based machine with an i9-275HX is an Apple move..... to keep the temps down, it has to be throttled, if it is throttled you aren't getting peak performance when it is needed. I also want the extra pci lanes and M.2 nveme slots. here is no reason with what is possible right now to be stuck with 3 nvme slots and 256gb ram. Cooling tech has also improved. I am still going to look into getting this board made, If I am stuck with the mobile processor then I might as well get an Alienware door stop.

I see this as a completely unnecessary step... You'd better buy a factory i9-275HX + RTX 5090 (24GB) machine that is sold by TongFang. I did the same! Since then, the X170SM/KM-G has been put in its box...

Hmmm. A$us prefer the cheap way. The more you pay the more they save. Nvidia offer their 5090 FE cards at MSRP ($2000) and still come with rubber die guard. I expect Asus prefered to use paste as die guard to save sub 1$ in cost of build. Isn't that cheapo? Or is it the classic greed?

Oh, that's what I thought, so it's nothing critical. Thank you for answering me, your topic about the 8570w is a great inspiration to me! And indeed, they are great laptops.

Smart move i will most likely follow suit as well! Given the current market landscape, the Legion 9i Gen 10 really is the only logical replacement for what used to be Dell’s flagship class, and it proves how redundant and outdated ISV only configurations have become. I’d love to see a proper head-to-head comparison in a non legacy, non OpenGL workflow. Better yet, even bring in a legacy ISV certified task and run them side-by-side. That would make the reality obvious very quickly. What Dell seems to overlook is that the workstation market has changed. ISV only configurations made sense 15-20 years ago, but today they’re a niche. Most modern workflows don’t benefit from ISV drivers at all, many are actually slowed down by them. That’s why systems like the Legion 9i exist: they offer workstation class performance without forcing you into an ISV locked GPU stack that’s irrelevant for 90% of real-world users. If Dell wants to stay competitive in the high-end mobile space, they need to bring back configuration flexibility, ISV when it’s needed, GeForce when it’s not. Forcing everyone into one certification path doesn’t reflect the reality of today’s workloads. Good job Dell, the operation was a success, but the patient didn’t survive.

According to the engineering diagrams that it also generated for me, this laptop can be built into the current X170- sm-g case. It will have proper air flow for cooling. Now where can I hire a fabricator to actually build, test and stress test the motherboard so I can upgrade my x170 sm-g

I haven't been on in a while, I am still happy with my X-170-sm-g, but it is time for a refresh. I am not an engineer so I had to ask for some help pulling this off. I basically said that I want to gut the x170-sm-g's internals and design a new motherboard with the spec I want so I can basically do a motherboard swap and this is what I was given back: Great — Version 1 (Realistic Clevo tone) is locked in. Below is Document A — the full marketing/product page for your redesigned system: ⭐ CLEVO X170 ULTRA PRO The Ultimate Desktop Replacement Workstation Powered by Intel® Core Ultra 9 (Arrow Lake-S) + NVIDIA® RTX 5090M Overview The Clevo X170 Ultra Pro represents the next evolution of true desktop-grade mobile performance. Engineered for professionals who demand uncompromising CPU speed, extreme GPU power, massive memory capacity, and server-class storage bandwidth, the X170 Ultra Pro delivers a level of capability previously impossible in a portable form factor. Built around a custom motherboard supporting Intel Core Ultra 9 (Arrow Lake-S) desktop processors and a soldered NVIDIA RTX 5090M GPU, the X170 Ultra Pro stands unmatched as the world’s most powerful DTR-class workstation. 🔥 Key Features ✔ Desktop-Class Intel® Core Ultra 9 (Arrow Lake-S) Up to 24 cores (8 P + 16 E) LGA1851 socketed desktop CPU Up to 250 W turbo power with configurable PL1/PL2 Delivers true workstation and rendering performance on the go ✔ NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5090M (Soldered BGA) Based on next-generation flagship NVIDIA architecture 20–24 GB GDDR7 VRAM 225–300 W board power PCIe 5.0 x16 direct CPU connection Ideal for CUDA, AI acceleration, 3D rendering, VR, and high-FPS gaming ✔ Up to 512 GB DDR5 SO-DIMM 4× DDR5 SO-DIMM slots Supports up to 4×128GB modules JEDEC-stable DDR5-4800/5200 Unprecedented memory capacity for virtual machines, simulation, scientific workloads, and large AI models ✔ Six NVMe SSD Slots (NVMe Only) 6× M.2 PCIe slots (up to PCIe 5.0 x4) 1× CPU PCIe 5.0 primary slot 1× CPU PCIe 4.0/5.0 secondary 4× PCH PCIe 4.0 slots RAID options supported Expandable to over 48 TB of solid-state storage ✔ High-Performance Cooling System Full-width unified vapor chamber Dual fin stacks with high-pressure blower fans CPU and GPU each get dedicated thermal pathways VRM and NVMe cooling integrated into chassis architecture Designed for up to 500 W continuous thermal load ✔ Extreme Power Options Dual 330 W power supplies (660 W combined) Optional 780 W high-capacity PSU Intelligent DC-input management Battery used primarily for UPS-style backup 🖥️ Display (Compatible Options) (Same panel support as existing X170 series) 17.3” 4K 144 Hz 17.3” QHD 240 Hz 17.3” FHD 144–360 Hz G-SYNC® / Adaptive Sync options available 100% sRGB or 100% DCI-P3 depending on panel 🎛️ Connectivity & I/O 2× USB-C (Thunderbolt™ 4/5 Ready) 3× USB-A 10Gbps HDMI 2.1 DisplayPort 2.1 (via GPU) 2.5G/5G Ethernet Wi-Fi 7 + Bluetooth 5.x M.2 Key B for optional WWAN Audio jacks: headphone/mic combo or separate jacks depending on configuration Full-size keyboard + per-key RGB 🔊 Audio & Multimedia High-fidelity stereo speakers Subwoofer module Hi-Res Audio support Array microphone with noise suppression Full HD or 4K webcam options 🔒 Security TPM 2.0 BIOS-level protection Optional SmartCard reader Optional fingerprint sensor 📦 Specifications Summary Category Specification CPU Intel Core Ultra 9 Arrow Lake-S, LGA1851 desktop processor GPU NVIDIA RTX 5090M (20–24 GB GDDR7), soldered BGA Memory Up to 512 GB DDR5 SO-DIMM (4× 128 GB) Storage 6× M.2 NVMe (1× PCIe 5.0 x4, 1× PCIe 4.0/5.0 x4, 4× PCIe 4.0 x4) Cooling Unified vapor chamber, dual fin stacks, dual blowers Power Dual 330 W or single 780 W power supplies Networking Wi-Fi 7, BT 5.x, 2.5G/5G LAN Display Options 17.3” UHD, QHD, or FHD high-refresh panels I/O 2× USB-C, 3× USB-A, HDMI 2.1, DP 2.1, audio jacks, RJ-45 Chassis Clevo X170 full-size DTR chassis 🧩 Why Choose X170 Ultra Pro? Unmatched CPU power in a portable form factor Flagship GPU performance rivaling desktops Server-class memory capacity for scientific, AI, or VM workloads Enterprise-grade storage bandwidth with 6 NVMe slots DTR cooling designed for sustained workloads Upgrade-friendly design with socketed CPU and modular memory/storage Built for years of heavy-duty use 🌟 X170 Ultra Pro The Most Powerful Laptop Architecture Ever Engineered by Clevo.

Maybe the previous owner mucked up the card with a modded bios?

Got 18 on my wife's laptop. Way faster than windows 11, way better than windows 11 and free of microsoft's Ai SLOP. Can't wait to get the battery for my crate and move it to Zorin OS. Then need to figure out how to get all my info off onedrive and onto my storage drive.

That component turns on sata led activity, in simple answer. Regarding project, have fun and good luck! Few months ago I helped my friend to repaste his Precision 7520. He does have mxm slot too, but unfortunately it’s smaller A version. Nice laptops, though!

So the itch to try Arrowlake is slowly winning but frugally, so I snagged an open box Asus Z890 Strix-A from da 'zon. When all is said and done, $176 delivered to my door. It is the cheapest route I could sort out that still gives me access to SP ratings on CPUs as I test. Arrowlake is all new to me so that will be fun as I've twisted AM5 and Intel Skylake++ every which way possible via several motherboards and chips over the last 2-3 years. The plan of attack is to install this into the empty white Hyte Y40 that used to house my secondary/daughter's system and rebuild out of it since she is now ready to come over and game again after the other system gathered dust for well over a year before I broke it down and sold the components so I'll build out again......but she's a good daughter who is working and in school so I don't mind at all. I have a few spare PSUs floating around including an EVGA P2 850w and MSI Ai1300p so I'm good there along with a few Samsung 980 and 990 Pro 1TB and 2TB SSDs. I have at last count 4-5 AIOs of various flavors on my shelf from 240mm up to 360mm so I'm good there too. As previously noted, I have those 8400 Kingspec 2x24GB sticks floating about so those will be used. I wouldn't splurge for 9000 cudimms even before the memory crazy pricing so I'm sure as heck not dropping $420 for another set of 8400 or a mind boggling $675+ for a set of 9000. I'll just see where these or the TG 8200 sticks go. Just fishing for a CPU to use. Might test a few 265k/kf's or 285k's depending on Black Friday specials. 265k is obviously the cheapest way to go.

UPDATE #1: I've started buying the necessary parts for the refurbishment/upgrade project. I'll be purchasing most of the parts from China, from sites like Taobao, Xianyu, etc. The first parts I bought were: • 240W GaN AC Adapter (DP/N 0YR68) • NVIDIA Heatsink + Fans (DP/N 0YJNJK) • Memory RAM Cover (DP/N AM1DJ000300) As soon as the parts arrived, I installed the heatsink + fans, put in some RAM sticks and an SSD that I already had, and tried to turn the laptop on. To my surprise, it booted, but I immediately noticed that the screen was defective. Aside from the screen, everything works perfectly: speakers, touchpad, USB ports, fingerprint reader, RAM slots, etc. However, when I took the motherboard out to clean it, I had an unpleasant surprise: a component was knocked off, and even worse, apparently the pads were also ripped off: Taking a look at the boardview, this is what I got: This is where I ask you guys for help, does anyone know exactly what this component does? I tested the motherboard's SATA port and it's working perfectly, full speed. I don't have the necessary skills, but I'm thinking of trying to repair it someday. Anyway, I bought a Dell Precision 7720 motherboard with Xeon E3-1535M v6 (I had originally ordered a motherboard with Xeon E3-1575M v5 because of its 128MB L4 cache, but the seller told me it was out of stock, so they offered me the 1535M v6) on Aliexpress and I'm waiting for it to arrive. Just out of curiosity, before I installed the heatsink, I took the opportunity to install a Clevo GTX 670MX with faulty VRAM chips that I had lying around to see if the Precision would recognize it — and yes, it did, and I was able to install the drivers normally on Windows 10. Here are the pictures:

https://youtu.be/OgU_UDYd9lY?si=2tdg2cohYHR4AuXt

So here's an update after doing some even deeper hunting I was able to find a link to the bios on an old discord group chat I'll leave a link here in case anyone else needs the bios This link not only includes bios but also vbios and a chart along with instructions on how to flash the bios https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tr275Yl65ejq6E_aV8aYqk-v7_hSJJwF/view https://github.com/supermarsx/other-clevo-modded-bios

There should be no yellow visible even when it is still in the PSU box.

Wow I thought recorder in primary school was dumb........turns out I was just no good at it

As someone who has owned and tested 3x 5000 series MSI cards (5080 Shadow, 5090 Ventus, 5090 Vanguard) yes, there should be no yellow visible lol.......

I'm trying to find the 2022 P870TM1 ported Dsanke bios for the P870DM2/DM3 I found a link on here through ZippyShare for the bios but since the zippyshare is shut down I can't download the bios i've even checked github archives none of them have the 2022 ported TM1 bios does anyone here have a copy of the bios pls

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