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Hi Sorry I really misunderstood your first question, better fans and quieter 🤔 I haven’t heard anything likely in the forum, better thermal paste, metal liquid or PTM7950 pad and de-liding CPU is the only thing I can come up, but this model laptop won’t ever ran quieter, it has a hot CPU no commonly made for laptop is for PC. That’s kind of impossible. Although you can run quieter laptop by using Hybrid System (switch automatically iGPU instead of dedicated GPU when not needed, that requires unlocked BIOS MENU) and setting up power mode for “Entertainment”, on higher performance it won’t be quieter. About watercooler, you can make your own though, if you know how to and have some solder machine. I made my own Watercooler because that 3rd party company who made that watercooler is no so efficient and is too expensive. With less than $10 dollars you can make your own. it requires some experience and a lot of patience but the reward is greater. If like you can Buy your own copper pipes, connectors, silicone tube and a simple waterpump and cools better than factory. (My own Watercooler) First model - 1 pipe water cooler system 2nd model - 2 copper pipes watercooler system. (Made a joint, much better, so I don’t have to use 4 pipes for intake and exit. (the good thing is that I can close the Bottom Cover. A flat pipe of 3mm is necessary to properly close the bottom lid of the laptop if you want to carry it around. ) Aliexpress - has some fast and easy solution to apply a new water cooler. This must be soldered not cold solder or metal glue.

my dudes, we can consider ourselves lucky to have covered all our bases with regards to hardware. our 4090s/5090s will stay at the top of the pack until 2028, lets just hope they dont go up in flames / melt until then 🤣 boy am i glad that i got my 32TB of pcie4 m.2 ssds plus took care of the ram binning with 10+ kits back in the summer of last year. prices were at rock bottom then ("good old times"). and even though i overpaid for my 5090 at +25% above minimum pricing (3300€ vs. 2650€ incl. 19% VAT and shipping), a whopping two thirds of it (2100€) was made up by the sale price of the 4090 😅 besides, even when the suprim currently IS available, its offered at 4000+€, absolutely insane... long story short: i guess compared to other unlucky users who are currently planning on building a rig, were pretty well off at least for the time being...always good to count and be generally aware of your blessings 🫠 mixed news on the ram tuning front: still cannot reach anything above 7600 stable but at 7600 im now reaching way way tighter timings than before, actually best ive had thus far overall on this mobo. final results pending, as u all know ram tuning takes quite a while...

Usually I don't believe much in whatever apps supplied by vendors making claims about battery life improvement - but what does My Gram do? On idle it decreases the CPU package from 0.5-0.8 to 0.3-0.7 watts - that's really crazy low. I left my 2025 16 Gram Pro in idle with browser open and display off prevented for 2 hours and it only dropped 6.1 % battery - screen brightness at 30% which should be around 150 nits. That would be well over 30 hours of battery life. Surfing the web and browsing I usually got without gram about 6-7% per hour, but with my gram only 5% per hour - meaning around 20 hours batttery duration in real life. Yeah not panther lake levels but not far off. Wifi/Bluetooth both on. System drive Lexar NM790 - the lowest power use NVME with Devsleep (lowest) enabled. I really do wonder what windows settings does My gram change.

I know I’m really late to the game here, but I finally got around to installing the danske 128gb (ram) bios on my p870km1. I did the 9900kf pin mod. Upgrade to WiFi 6 with WiFi 6 antennas and installed 2 rtx 3080 with the stock vapor chamber heatsink hits 89c under furmark at 4k, 71c with Fortnite max settings at 240fps at 4k res. My issue is even with the modified inf i don’t have gsync. And the bios reads vga unknown. I’m not sure what to do at this point. Origin eon17slx

I think I know what you mean, sorry for the question but how do they call the other keyboards that the RGB light can be individually assigned? Yes we do have the same Laptop model. 👍🏻 I hope can you get a good keyboard from the store.

Just the generic Intel ones. I'm using Win10.

While I missed the boat on the best pricing for 8000MT+ RAM, I am happy I spent the 150 to 180 for each of the nine 4TB NVMe SSDs I got over 2025. I went nuts on the Acer GM7000 SSDs. I did a quick calculation, I have over 100TBs in SSDs (spread across 8TB, 4TB, 2TB and 1TB drives) in operation. If I were to buy them in today's prices, I'd have to spend over 30K. Damn! I guess being a frugal data hoarder has it benefits once in awhile.

I thought this was a good (and accurate) assessment of the situation. We are getting screwed just because the industry is run by opportunistic trash scumbags and they are doing it just because they can. What goes around comes around and payback is going to be a real b**** for all of them before its over. Once the illogical AI slop build-out has run its course they are not going to have a product to sell because there is will be not enough demand for it at the inflated price and they'll have to roll back prices to mid-2025 levels or go out of business. AI is not bad. AI development companies are bad. Their motives and methods are wicked and they will reap what they are sowing.

Unfortunately, that did not solve it for me. I also got a thread at the Lenovo forums going about this, but no solutions yet that work. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile-Workstations/Lenovo-P16-Gen-3-Screen-brightness-controls-fail-when-using-dedicated-graphics-only/m-p/10020358

Which version of the nvidia driver are you using. Do you have a download link to the version that works fine on yours?

Hi everyone, I recently bought a 980m graphics card for my M17xR4 as my old 970m developed problems. I fitted it to the heatsink and it seemed to fit ok, but on starting the laptop I get 8 beeps. Is this simply the wrong graphics card for the laptop or is likely another issue? The card doesn't seem to have the usual x-shaped plate on the back like my last one and instead has a copper backplate (image url inserted below). https://imgur.com/a/lh7JkFS Thanks in advance

Considering a corporation's primary mission is responsibility to stock holders and maximum profitability, I'm not shocked. China is a massive market with a gargantuan trade surplus with a voracious need for CPUs and GPUs as they continue to advance technologically. Match made in heaven. ------------------ As for Intel cancelling the 290k... Makes sense considering the 270k is basically a 285k and the 290k would just be a slightly binned 285k. 250k gets 4 more e-cores over the 245k New memory support for the 270k and 250k from 6400 to 7200..... I expect the 270k to come in priced right in between the 285k and 265k. Performance per value gets a nice bump. There is also the possibility Intel had yield issues with the 290k but that's pure speculation...

Here's the consumer nothingburger from Intel. Intel have more than enough feeding China with pricy server CPUs. So as you can see, not only Nvidia and AMD are in love with China. Every tech company making microprocessors love China. Corruption and greed around the microprocessor industry have no limits! And none have the balls to stop the madness. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-reportedly-cancels-core-ultra-9-290k-plus-but-keeps-270k-250k-arrow-lake-refresh-skus Based on our information, Intel explains the change as a shift toward performance-per-value. The company plans to keep the Core Ultra 7 270K Plus and Core Ultra 5 250K Plus in its lineup, according to materials shared with partners.

There is never a shortage of insanely overpriced trash made for the dumbest people in the world. A year or two ago I would not have believed there would be a human being dumb enough to pay that for a mouse, but now I know they are real and there are enough of them to be dangerous to all of the people or ordinary or greater intelligence. https://www.overclock.net/posts/29556653/

My laptop uses an LVDS internal panel, if I’m not mistaken, and the display signal is routed through the iGPU via NVIDIA Optimus rather than a direct dGPU output. That said, I mostly run it with an external monitor over DisplayPort. I rarely game on the internal display while mobile - in those cases, it’s mainly used for productivity work. With my previous Quadro RTX 3000, I didn’t notice any significant LVDS or Optimus-related bottleneck. Performance was nearly identical between the internal panel and the external monitor. In any case, now that I’ve installed the new card, I’ll see how it behaves in real-world use.

Do you need a new mouse? 🙄 It's inflation in the branding "Limited Edition" nowadays. Razer try also to maximize profits from stupids. Razer plans to sell 1,337 units of its new limited edition gaming mouse for $1,337 each

Thank you for your help. I guess I’m still a bit surprised that a keyboard where each key can be assigned an RGB value is still considered a 4Zone keyboard? Do I understand that right? It also sounds like we have the same model, the Origin EON17-X, correct?

What do you do for drivers, just use the generic Intel ones? Also, what OS are you running?

Hello. Does your laptop have eDP too? Or just LVDS? Because this thread is only for eDP laptops, dGPU at full performance. LVDS is limiting the newest cards a lot sadly. RTX 4060 from X-VSION has a good vbios, it'll work with eDP without any EDID override!

I've received my Gram 16 Pro 2025 with Lunar Lake 256v today from Amazon Warehouse in Like new condition. As far as I can tell it was never used before - but package shortly opened and then directly returned. 1104€ made it worth it. I had to be below 1200€ inckluding VAT for writing it off on my business. The CPU power limits can be set in the bios, but it's not respected. However they can be successfully modified with Throttlestop - so setting 35/45 for example isn't a problem. However the cooling for me doesn't manage more than 35w continously without throttling. I haven't found out how to change Prochot offset to 0 from the default 8° (in order to increase CPU temp limit to 100° instead of 92° which LG set - this should be possible via advanced bios somehow. Battery size is fully charged is 79630Wh - so 103.4% of indicated. That is very nice as LG isn't good at all in this regard and ofen battery in new gram have less fully charged capacity vs design capacity. It had 0 cycles so clearly is brand new. I think I will need to repaste the CPU with Arctic MX-5 or MX-6 as I am about 5% lower in benchmarks even with PL1/PL2 limits removed vs say notebookcheck on Cinebench R23 Multi. It still has the old cooler. Only the RTX 5050 Gram Pro 2025 already has the vastly improved new coolers (lighter and 25% stronger at same power use). I guess If I find out how to remove the Prochot offset of 8° and repaste the CPU around 45w constant power draw should be possible instead of the 35-36w right now (each measure helping 5w or so I estimate) Yeah the pro has a stiffer bottom part vs the old LG Gram. The display however is still just as flimsy - the new 2026 Aerominium are much better in this regard. And even though the production date The speakers are much much better vs my old LG gram, or well say louder. My old Gram the display clearly lost brightness - at around 30% on the new it equals 100% on my old. That is something which will always happen as displays age - the get less bright - so after nearly 5 years of using my old Gram it has done it's job. I think also the speakers got less loud over time - also something usually happening. For the form factor - I would have prefered the old - the slimmer design for me isn't a good trade for 1cm deeper size. But yes I understand only because it's slimmer it's much more stable vs the non Pro lg Gram. The reason it's more stable is the battery helping tremendously in stability vs the non Pro grams. Out of the box however quite a few things weren't working well. It wouldn't enter C3 or lower states on the CPU - dunno what advanced bios setting I changed but now it goes nicely into C10 and CPU package power goes down to 0.6w on idle instead of 1.2w before. Also note that HIPM DIPM isn't activated out of the box - wasting a lot of power. So you need to add that registry entry to show up in the power plan and put the NVME into lowest. Otherwise you burn at least 0.5w additionally. Yes I would have prefered the 5050 RTX version - but that would have been at least 70% more expensive. The same likely will go for the really far superior new 2026 LG gram with Panther lake. They have a new OLED that is better vs the older OLED displays, another 15% better battery life, 50-60% more CPU power, 100% more GPU power but will be much more expensive. I really would like the new Aerominium case. While I can see in Korea you can get a keyboard for the 2026 already - which will mean turning the lower body into Aerominum - for the screen this will be very expensive. Also the bottom is still plain magnesium I think - it's only the Display case and the upper part (the one with the keyboard) that is now Aerominium. If I had the money for the 5050 version I would wait for the 2026 Panther lake which except if your a gamer is the far superior notebook overall. I haven't yet migrated my old 2TB disk into this one - that should help battery life a bit too - as the 980 Pro is pretty power hungry. I'll actually try hot swapping in my old drive. Let's see how that goes. My old 2021 Gram was at it's limit on 4K UHD playback with UHD monitor connected - no worries here now of course. Often the main thing slowing out an older laptop are video codecs that have no hardware decoding. Well Lunar Lake has H266 hardware decoding - but it will not have AV2. Likely that won't make it before 2027 into any laptop. That's kinda the biggest drawback in a couple of years if you get a Lunar lake based notebook. Placement of the primary NVME drive below the CPU: Do not use this placement for your primary drive - but only for data grab. Being so close to the CPU it gets too hot. This is actually a little bit (5mm or so) better then 5050 mainboard. It is much better on the standard LG gram. Otherwise you may quite likely fry your NVME. I'm not sure if it's possible to install some sort of barrier there by putting a small rubber insulator there. I really wonder that no one so far noticed this. But it's pretty apparent when running a continours benchmark and then looking at the NVME temperature. It hit's 60 without any actual load if the CPU plugs along at 92°... Edit: so it worked to just plug in my old harddrive. Steps to do: 1. you need a USB mouse. 2. Change boot order and move old disk to spot 1 in bios, best remove fingerpring login and any other login before moving the drive - else you will need to cut power three times while booting to get into boot option, boot in safe mode with networking - change a registry setting, reboot, use the physical mouse to click on other sign in option and select password... Then install the new LG updater for the current model (the old program is useless now) - install all updates. 5. Make sure under settings --> apps --> optional features --> to install windows hello facial --> reboot plently of times and run windows update --> after 3 hours everything was working without fresh windows installation. Power options were messed up again - so need to set in registry all the options especially AHCI link and again select lowest - as otherwise it defaults once again to HIPM only. Last step - get a new windows license used and activate windows. Somehow you will need to login back to many places - and still reactivate the 2nd factor authentication from fingerprint now to facial. For me that still saves plenty of hours vs a fresh installation of windows 11 madness.

Hi, thanks for your reply. I received an RTX 4060 from Xvision today. I’ll try modding a heatsink over the next few days to run some tests and share feedback for the MSI GT60. My laptop uses Optimus, so I shouldn’t run into too many issues. I previously had a Quadro RTX 3000 installed and it worked without any problems. I didn’t go with the 4070 since these machines tend to get heavily CPU-bottlenecked anyway.

lol, my very old Dell E7440 had coating that disintegrated. Looked and felt horrible > time to throw the laptop in the bin :O) But scratched it away with a piece of plastic (softer than the main plastic frame under the coating). Long ago, maybe ? also used some elctronic contact cleaner, which did not attack anything other than the coating. Then polished with fine 800 (or was it 400) sandpaper. Was a job over time, nice finish in the end.

Thanks, so no fans, or they wouldn't be needed anyway. I'd already read the forum, but thanks anyway. Unfortunately, since I don't know anyone who delid processors, I think I'll just use PTM or Helios pads. That heatsink is interesting, if only it didn't cost as much as a PC. The 0.5mm pads are interesting, maybe I can evaluate them, but I think I'll need to apply a layer of thermal paste to dissipate well. Thanks.

Tools like SpeedFan or HWiNFO64 can manually control the fan in this system. If you use one of those, can you get the fan to turn on?