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If you intend to get that Gskill XMP kit once available you may have no choice but to disable SAGV as it usually increases stability (at least that was the case with raptor lake). Supposedly gear 2 is good up to 8400MT/s on the 285K. I could not get the Kingston Fury sticks to boot at 7200MT, probably due to the 1.25v limit on this bios version.

Me? Have tested it. But the fan control on the Astral is total wacko with the Gigabyte vbios. Only useful if you have a waterblock for the card. But not bad with the 600W power cap https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3411290 Edit. What a beauty. But it will most likely be a downscaled/castrated card for China. If this info is correct from Manly, then expect the Black Edition of xx90 HOF will be an hefty downgrade. More like 5090DD. Yet, a damn pretty one. GALAX teases its first GeForce RTX 50 Hall of Fame graphics card in black @Mr. Fox ASRock announces X870E Taichi OCF, its first AMD OC Formula motherboard for overclocking https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-announces-x870e-taichi-ocf-its-first-amd-oc-formula-motherboard-for-overclocking This should be done for every HW manufacurer. No one want big packages with bloatware intalled on their systems. And (a)RGB should be set to static White for default settings. The RGB jockey's can tune for their likings if they prefer other colors than white. Not force the trash on everyone. MSI preps web-based RGB controls so you don't have to install bloatware on your PC

Well, the new Uniwill IDY now has a modular, full wattage 5070ti - 5090 mobile. Probably the first I have seen since the X170 as a full wattage modular part. No guarantees of upgrades but I am sure someone with a 5070ti + Intel could switch to 5090 if desired. Its kind of funny that Uniwill is now producing more modular products than Clevo. I am not interested in their watercooling addons but I do appreciate everything else they are doing engineering-wise.

Yes I got the laptop, epic. If it works on this, it'll 100% work on Alienware.

@electrosoft I don’t think he is big on flashing otherwise he’d be running that Giga Chad bios on his Astral from Gigabyte, and he’s on stock Astral bios. He just likes dog’n on the ole FE. 🤣

Look this is 4090 .. But Did not succeed.

That’s absolutely true, and the P870TM has indeed been tested with dual RTX 3080 in SLI, and the results were higher than a single RTX 4090 mobile (175W). However, it’s absolutely impossible to solder and install an RTX 4090 GPU chipset onto an RTX 3090 MXM board, as this has already been tested and the chip does not work on that board. This is because the circuit designs of the 3080 and 4090 are different. The 30 series graphics cards operate at 1.8V, whereas the 4090 operates at 1.2V.

Just wait. The Chinese will put all work into making the 5090FE work with 48GB vram. And they will hack the firmware/make custom nvflash that will work. Some will do it. Be you sure. Maybe with xx60 series we will see the same also for all AIB cards (you are stuck with what you bought). We already see some of it today (problems cross-flash some of the AIB cards).

No. In fact, I am probably going to sell the Gene and purchase another X870E AORUS Master. The Gene is as great as it can be, but the mATX form factor is an impediment in terms of the connectivity I want. I have only one slot for the Sabrent card. It works and doesn't hinder the GPU but it is PCIe 3.0 X1. The Master gives me two usable X4 slots (X16 size) to use as I wish without affecting the GPU, NVMe or SATA. If I were interested in a SFF build it would definitely be a keeper.

Yeah, therein lies the problem. Only one source, no other vBIOS's and I'm sure zero XOC's being created around it. No chance of a block either. I still kinda want one tho.... 🤣 I still like the FEs, but that vBIOS BS just irked me to no end to the point I sold off my 5080 FE. Oh, and those temps didn't excite me either but not being able to cross flash other vBIOS's or a potential XOC vBIOS? Deal breaker. If I had an 5090FE, it would be UV and slapped in an SFF case. That is where it shines. Anything else is all AIB superiority. Well, at least you tried it out for us so now we know. Let me ask you this. If you didn't have the gene, would you have kept it? Hey! As long as you like it and it works for you, that's all that matters. Different strokes for different folks hence all the AIB models too. I'm hoping they find a way to break through on the 5090FE to let you cross flash different vBIOS's but that was a crap move on Nvidia's part to lock it down further this time around. That is artificially limiting the 5090FE even vs the 4090FE and removes the third part of the OC'er holy grail (vBIOS options, blocking, shunting (negated by XOC vBIOS)). The fourth would be silicon lottery. That 5090 FE with that 1.1+ voltage on OC is a potential monster in the making if he blocks and shunts it. Luckily, even limited, you can at least shunt and block it to realize the other two parts of its performance potential which will be nice to see. Are you still waiting on the block to shunt it or going to do it now?

I’ve had great luck with them. Like many others. My 2080Ti FE was 2080Ti HOF fast. Me personally, I don’t care what it is so long as you can make it fast, a GPU is a GPU. Many golden 4090’s were in the form of FE. motivman had a crazy good 4090FE. That thing absolutely ripped. I’m all for cheap+fast. But I don’t overthink the stock form it comes in. But I understand that some people may not modify their own cars, they may want that high HP right out of the box. You gotta take a solder iron to any of them this generation. Unless you’re Linus lol.

I'd have to argue against your assertion that the P870's second GPU slot is not of much use nowadays, as dual GPU configs are having quite the revival right now due to Lossless Scaling being able to utilize 2 GPUs to render any game. The caveat is that this pseudo SLI/Crossfire revival is only amongst technical users, not the general public. Additionally, there are productivity workflows that benefit from multi GPU configs such as lightmap baking, scientific computing, and video rendering just to list a few. Admittedly, these tasks are better performed on multi GPU desktops, but a multi GPU laptop is a boon for people like me who want or need all our compute power everywhere we go. For the general public though, your statement does in fact hold true. I'm making an argument on a great degree of technicality here, and it really only applies to a niche set of users. I don't think the general public has really ever been interested in multi GPU configs due to the cost. However, the P870 is definitely a laptop oriented towards more technical users, so I think the multi GPU capability is still very much useful. I believe a dual RTX 3080 MXM laptop would have a little more GPU compute or similar GPU compute to the current top dog RTX 5090 laptop. Having said that, I like the X170 a lot as well. It has the best speakers I've ever heard in a laptop and has VERY good CPU side cooling capabilities. I'd really like multi GPU laptops to make a return to the market. They're awesome. Apparently it may even be possible to get a 40 series core working on a 30 series MXM board according to Khenglish, so it'll be interesting to see where that goes. Dual RTX 4090 P870? That would be a sight to see.

As soon as this happens I will be ready.

My bad, in your Clevo p570wm3 🙂

No more procrastination.

tru i feel that, not a big fan of FEs either. but with the 6000 pro there arent any AIB cards. i wonder if the PCB would be similar enough to the 5090 that a waterblock could fit? now that would be quite the beast!

Ah ha! You were being sarcastic. I love sarcasm. Yeah, I can hardly wait to buy my next FE GPU. (Yes, more sarcasm, plus there can be no next without a first. I do not intend for there to be one.) Size is subjective. Those two SFF builds I did in the past year or so really illustrated how relative the perception can be. I was amazed by how much performance fit into a midget-sized package. But, to everyone else it was like, "Huh? What? Small? That's not small. It's just not as massive as your other computers." The way I see it is, if I can hold onto it and walk across the room with it tucked under one arm or move it somewhere else without having to use both hands to wrangle it, then to me it's SFF.

Yes, I had to go through it with my moms laptop. It's a huge inconvenience. Plus, I am ditching windows for security reasons too. They like scraping your data and sending it to places like McAfee, and other third party bidders. I don't have McAfee on my systems why is my data going to them. NO THANKS. I broke the news to my son who has autism and does not like change that change is coming on his gaming PC. For the better however.

i was talking about the gpu not the SFF build 😄 omg u with such a small case is like that classic cartoon of a big mountain of a man getting out of a tiny beetle haha

Small and densely packed jigsaw puzzle computers make me angry. I really do not care for SFF. Kind of like sitting in the middle seat on a 4-hour flight between two extra-fat and sweaty people that can't fit into the seat space allocated. Even the SFF builds I have done were 'too big' for SFF fanboys. Those that are too big can also be frustrating. O11D XL size is near perfect.

Yes, same chassis. The cooling system works fine for air-only operation. Probably not as powerful as a vapor chamber but that is a tradeoff that I am fine with for a more professional looking chassis and no gaudy RGB defaults.

You can get the passcode yourself right out of the BitLocker control panel. It is also stored in your Microsoft account, assuming that you set one up and use it to log in to your PC, and you can fetch it through a browser. The idea is simply to prevent someone who steals your system from being able to access your data, and I’m not really sure how they could do disk encryption better, a trivial workaround would defeat the purpose. Though I agree that activating it by default without informing the user of what is going on first is not the best approach.

So, I was just reading about the bitlocker bull. So MS holds your pc hostage with bitlocker encryption so if you have to install a new drive, or want to upgrade, the data on your current drive is locked and unable to be read unless you get a passcode from them? that's next level.