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It does fantastic with the stock vBIOS but I have not had time to research or test one with higher power limit. If there is one you suggest give me a link to which one (or upload) and I will run some tests on it. I just ordered a Bykski block for it on AliExpress for $75 less than from Byski.us with free shipping. Bykski Armored End Port GPU Waterblock Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5080 Gaming OC 16G (N-GV5080GMOC-X-V2) Here is a 12-loop run of Steel Nomad usng the stock vBIOS. About 10 loops in I installed the side panel and the GPU temps dropped by 2-3°C so the max temps would have been that much lower than HWiNFO64 is showing.

How is that 5080 SFF? It's basically the only reasonably priced 5080 left at MC. Can it handle a higher wattage vBIOS?

Z890 Apex #2 landed and launched. The crappy Gigabutt Duo X is on its way back to Amazon. Everything is as it should be now. No problem not booting with 40x D2D like issue with the Duo X. The BIOS was from 2024. I flashed 9901 but left the 2024 version of Intel ME. No plans to update it. No need until something proves otherwise. So far nothing has. Temps are great. Runs 8800 no issue, same as the other Apex.

Got 4070 to work. 4090 will work too, need EDID override and maybe a watercooled heatsink for it since 150W is hot

Have you been able to try the 4090 on m17x r4? The 3080 I have ordered is for the m18x r2 but thinking about 4090 for m17x r4 If it wont burn up due to heat issues ?

I found that your tool can OC the memory to 8GHz. The memory locks to 6GHz if I try modifying core clocks while also overclocking memory. If I don't touch memory at all, then it runs at 7.2GHz even if I adjust the core clocks. I can't get it to try anything faster than 8GHz. I've tried setting up to 9.2GHz, but it still just runs at 8GHz.

The whole laptop is glitching now. It was working before. I didn't use it for a day. No it's not a faulty GPU. No error 43 or BSOD. No artifacts just doing some screen flashing flickers The screen flickers crazily and the laptop always goes to sleep mode after 10 seconds. Dead PCH? Dead motherboard. Waiting for the 300USD KM-G motherboard replacement and my custom 2 in 1 heatsink with watercooling for GTX 9XXM and RTX 40XX MXM

Sweet! Just tested it and it works perfectly. Thanks for alerting us. Jensen stopped caring about what we want and need, so he needs to also stop caring about what we do if he has not already.

Alphacool Unveils Apex 2 Thermal Grease Today, 13:41 Alphacool International GmbH from Braunschweig is a pioneer in PC water cooling technology. With one of the most comprehensive product portfolios in the industry and over 20 years of experience, Alphacool now expands its lineup with the Apex 2 Thermal Grease. With the Apex 2, Alphacool introduces a new generation of its thermal grease. The completely revised formula was developed together with Halnziye for high-performance hardware and demanding cooling systems. Compared to its predecessor, the Apex 2 offers improved heat transfer, helping to reduce CPU and GPU temperatures. The Apex 2 shows its strengths particularly under high thermal loads and in areas with concentrated heat generation, such as GPU hotspots. This makes it suitable for gaming and overclocking systems as well as workstations, servers, and other performance-focused applications. Its electrically non-conductive formula allows safe use on sensitive components. At the same time, the carefully balanced consistency supports controlled handling and even distribution across the contact surface. The Alphacool Apex 2 Thermal Grease is now available in the Alphacool online shop.

The same DEV that created the original Melonvolt just released a separate tool for manually setting/overclocking the XBar without touching MSVDD at all! Just tested on my 5070 Ti and works flawlessly. Just set the offset, hit apply and bam. Amazing work. https://www.overclock.net/posts/29605861/ I guess both Devs are now sorta working together and will implement this Xbar offset tool into the Melonvolt tool so we don't have to use separate tools. Things are happening so fast lately with RTX 50 series. Getting wild. Jensen is having a bad week! Edit: Tool works great because you can add Xbar without needing to waste power or push voltage to get it to scale up. Saves if you're power limited and saves on wasted heat. Real world gaming in Battlefield 6 was about 2% on my 5070 test. But I'll take it. Added 500Mhz to my Xbar. In total about 13% over a stock card. Not bad at all..

I did update the BIOS with ch341A. I erased the entire BIOS chip and flashed a stock 1.07.04 clean BIOS. EC seems to be working. The EC doesn't control the RAM. EC is 1.07.zT. The laptop is a zTecPC variant and I can't find the 1.07.04zT bios for it (Prema) Laptop works only in single-channel. Tried to adjust the LGA bracket pressure, cleaned the socket. Can't get it to work with dual channel.

Can you try re update bios and ec

Sheesh! What a stinking nightmare. Glad to see there will be a resolution. You're definitely blessed in that you had sufficient resources and spare product to allow the issue to be identified, as well as having a technical knowledge base adequate for it. For your average Point-N-Click keyboard jockey that would have been a valid reason for having a meltdown. SFF. The dimensions are basically identical to the Prime. Which means it would have been yesterday's version of a normal sized video card. "Normal" today means unnecessarily large. 3070 FTW3 will be the emergency backup GPU.

Final (ish) analysis of the whole can't boot / memory problems: Motherboards: Asus X870E Crosshair Hero (still waiting for the Dark variant to be sent out) HP Omen 35L Prebuilt B850 tower (8400F, 5060, single Rage 6000 DDR5 stick, 512GB NVME) Asrock Phantom B850i Asrock B850M-C CPUs: 8400f 7500X3D 9800X3D Memory: Kingston Rage (Rage) DDR5 6000 1x16GB SR Teamgroup (TG) 8200 2x24GB Kingbank (KB) 8400 2x24GB Corsair Vengeance (CV) 9200 2x24GB --------------------------------------------------------------------- Rage memory boots and runs in every motherboard with every CPU TG, and CV boots and runs with every MB and CPU except the 7500X3D KB boots and runs in Hero and HP except with 7500X3D . Total no go in both AsRock boards. This is a two fold with conflation: KB known issue with Asrock boards so they're a no go atm....it was conflating an issue with the 7500X3D. 7500X3D has a dud IMC and can't handle 24GB sticks in single or double config. None of the 2x24GB sticks will post on Asrock boards in single or double sticks with the 7500X3D. They will post on HP and Hero but trying to get to desktop they keep getting BSODs and exception errors on the login screens over and over tested from 4800-6000 it doesn't matter. BSOD city on the MBs it can actually boot. It has no problem with a single stick of SR 16GB Rage memory. All MBs are functional. It was the KB issue and 7500X3D IMC being faulty causing all the problems. Returning the B850i Phantom (popping it in the mail tomorrow) and send the 7500X3D to AMD for an RMA or see if MC would allow a replacement but it will work itself out one way or the other. I plan on running the SFF with my 9800X3D now anyhow and put the 9850X3D delidded into the new Hero Dark when it arrives. In a "we're blessed" moment, Imagine not having a decent amount of hardware to swap and test to log data and diagnose problems all because of a flaky/dud IMC on the CPU and hidden but known compatibility issue with KB sticks with some AsRock MBs.....crazy. ------------------------------------------------- Smart play when you want a third decently powerful GPU in play since you run three rigs usually at all times. Odds of scoring a secondary 5090, unlike the 4090 days, for a somewhat sane price (less than $3k) have long flown the coop. $1100 is super close to MSRP. Did you snag a WF OC SFF or normal? Unlike some of the OCN forum members who continue to pick up new 5090s, that's too rich for me. I'm going to ride this Vanguard into the ground as my main rig gem. This. I'm more than content with my Vanguard since it is a 1.125v sample right out of the box, but the 5080 tops out at 1.040 so that is going to be major fun OCing the 5080 for funsies to see where it goes. Just hoping Jensen doesn't shoot us the bird right back and find a way to lock it out in a future driver revision. I can just imagine Jensen screaming, "THE MORE YOU SPEND THE MORE YOU BUY MOTHER%$*$)($S!!!" and smashing his keyboard against a bunch of GPU displays...... 🤣 ---------------------------------------------- Jensen right now watching everyone celebrating having control over our own hardware to push the voltage where we want:

HOLY CRAP! here i was, just about to start work in the office when i stumbled upon this, bam 45 min gone LOL. omg cant wait to check this out once i get home.... what a total middle finger to Nvidia, friggin hilarious! show them those melons, guys! 😄

Yup, works like a champ on my 5090, too. I'll do some testing and if it does as good or better I will remove the EVC2 mod and just use this instead. Then I won't have to care about the WireView Pro I2C conflicts because there will no longer be one without the EVC2. The MSVDD did goose my crossbar clock a bit on all three GPUs. I think this could end up being the world's most loved utility. I haven't even used it for an hour yet and I love it. It gives us all what we deserved to get from NVIDIA, but they're just too scummy to give us everything they owed us for buying their absurdly overpriced gimped GPU crap.

This is such a nice CPU. The SP87 one you gave me actually seems to perform almost the same except for the SP98 does it with less voltage. I think on the chiller it's not going to make much difference which one I am using. Without the chiller it will likely run cooler but they both run very reasonable temperatures even when pushed hard since being delidded. The chiller will be mainly useful for the GPU to boost higher and hold boost clocks. I feel blessed to have two really great 270K Plus samples. I think I paid too much for it, but everything worth having is overpriced and a poor value now, so I digress.

I know! I was messing with it all afternoon on all my cards. I need to shunt mod my lowly 5070/5070 Ti now. Usually the lower tier cards don’t get this fun, but now we can have fun with the entire stack. I laughed too hard at that last sentence. 🤪 Finally AI is being used for good! The tools they made being used against them is just too ironic.

This is awesome. I tested it on both of my 5080 GPUs and it definitely works. I will test it on the 5090 and see if it will allow me to remove the EVC2 mod without losing anything. I hope that Jensen is not happy. He doesn't deserve to have a happy life.

Awesome. Thank you. I have always removed Defender garbage from Windoze so I don't have to worry about Micro$lop's ever-growing database of false positive file flags or bogus blacklists nonsense.

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29605610/ Defender throws up false virus readings. So had to disable to get it. 1150mV limits by default. 1250mv with XOC button. XBar scales with MSVDD. By default Nvidia made it so you can’t scale MSVDD beyond NVVDD default baked in. But now that we can raise NVVDD, you can push MSVDD higher and therefore XBar.

Interesting. Got a link? Never heard of Melon Volt.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/161882960 Good enough for #13 Bartlett Lake is the CPU that could have been. This chip with 8400-8800MTs would have been elite.

If I upgrade from A2000 to A5000 on my 7560, do I have to change the heatsink or the original one works for both? As far as I know, there is only one heatsink SKU for 7560.