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Single core wise they are the same. Want to upgrade to an RTX 3080/4080?

I think i buy the P570wm and maibe buy the P570wm3 motherboard next month or so, even if it is expensive i ned a mor powerful CPU tan an 3940XM

If i serch for tat, links and so from the X170 and P870 comm up to expensiv, i was willing to buy one for 500-600€ max

LVDS. You need to contact Eurocom... and buy the P570WM3 motherboard for 480/500€ and eDP cable for 60€. Yes it's expensive but if you have money, it's worth it I guess... Try to find it on your local german websites. XMG ULTRA 17 from 2012

i wantet to buy this one ( https://www.ebay.de/itm/366563164647?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20250528154913%26meid%3Def62450988c34db89a4d8a71e562255f%26pid%3D102805%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D366563164647%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DPersonalizedTopicsV2WithBrandFocus_BP%26brand%3DCLEVO&_trksid=p4375194.c102805.m162920 ) but i think it is the lvds one

Yes. Cooling capacity, different plateform and different chassis. P570WM3 (120Hz version) is better. Don't get the LVDS ONE! There's also a custom heatsink for RTX 3070/3080/4080/4090 for P570WM3.

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Is there a difference between the P570WM3 and the P570wm, i am thinking of buying the one on ebay

P370/P375SM I had that. Build quality not good. I have P570WM3. I can do RTX 4070, 4090 in the main MXM slot with custom heatsink and backlight mod v1. Yes both have eDP support upto 1080p 120Hz. I sell heatsink for RTX 3080/4080/4090 + backlight mod for P570WM3. P570WM3 has better CPU cooling.

Im thinking off getting ether the P370SM or the P570wm now i got some questions about them, 1. dos anybody have an unlockt bios off them, i coudent find any online 2. dos every P370SM/P570wm have an edp konektor?

Linux improves FPS on low-end PCs thanks to a new task scheduler: 25% more performance, less stuttering and latency Linux has been gaining ground as a gaming OS for some time, but Linux 7.3 will be a particularly interesting step for those still using a modest PC.

Linux improves FPS on low-end PCs thanks to a new task scheduler: 25% more performance, less stuttering and latency Linux has been gaining ground as a gaming OS for some time, but Linux 7.3 will be a particularly interesting step for those still using a modest PC.

For the graphics side, from what I know: RTX A5000 150W = 3080 150W level = RTX 4070 115W level So an RTX 4060 100-115W won't be better than your existing GPU. A5000 has more VRAM too! 16GB vs 8GB. So you'll end up with a less powerful GPU and less VRAM. I have installed and RTX 4070 MXM on a Dell Precision M4800 and it beats the RTX 5000 16GB (2080 Max-Q) on a Dell Precision M6700. 12400 vs 9000 (excellent top tier score from the 5000) in timespy graphics.

Need advice for 5-year Engineering/ Simulation Laptop: ThinkPad P15 Gen 2 vs Dell 7560 (RTX A5000) vs New Acer Predator (RTX 4060)? Hi everyone, I am about to go into my 3rd year of university (Physics/Engineering) and I need a laptop that can handle heavy simulations (specifically MuMax3 and IC Design tools). My goal is for this machine to last at least 5 years. I'm currently torn between three options within my budget (~$1,100 USD / 30 mil VND in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam): 1)Dell Precision 7560 (i7, RTX A5000 16GB) 2)Lenovo ThinkPad P15 Gen 2 (i7, RTX A5000 16GB) 3)Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 2024 (i9-14th Gen HX, RTX 4060 8GB) - Brand new My dilemma: MuMax3 is extremely dependent on GPU VRAM, so the 16GB on the A5000 is a massive advantage. However, after reading through forums, the Dell 7560 seems to suffer from terrible thermal throttling and BIOS issues. Should I go for the ThinkPad P15 Gen 2? Is its thermal management (with PTM7950 repaste and ThrottleStop) significantly better and more stable than the Dell? Or should I just bite the bullet, sacrifice 50% of the VRAM (going down to 8GB), and buy the brand new Acer Predator for peace of mind and warranty, assuming both the used workstations are too problematic to maintain? Or the Acer one for more blance in cpu and gpu for more flexible study/work? Any insights from workstation users would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Nice to be back in beast mode.

the RGB panel is worth it and that screen alone is a reason to own these M17x/R2 systems. I have RGB panel in my m17x & M17xR2.

It works fine as a bootable usb to unlock 1.5.0 temporarily. need to boot from usb everytime to access unlocked bios. need more bios version dumps to expand the compatibility

I am surprised the Asus bios has support for any overclocking options. Granted the last Asus I tried was that Strix Scar 17 which was quite some time ago. I have currently the 5600 Kingston CL40 2x16GB kit at stock timings other than tREFI 24k. This lets VSOC set at 900mv which is great for balanced mode where the chip is limited to 55W in combined loads. Supposedly memory heatsinks from Aliexpress can help keep bumping VDD/VDDQ from pushing temps as high, so thats the next thing to try with memory overclocking. I can tame the RGB by setting keyboard brightness to zero via the toggle FN-F8 key (EC can remember this setting unlike anything configured in Steelseries) then unplug the front lightbar and the lid logo RGB is gone courtesy of the Vector A18 lid. I think the Asus could be a good alternative if the bios is not limiting and you get full support using the G-helper tool instead of Armory Crate. 9955HX3D is definitely outperforming 14900HX running around in the new content zones and raiding activities. I have heard that Nova Lake HX will not have a bLLC variant, so I guess 9955HX3D will be it for another year. Who knows if there will be any mobile GPU refresh. Probably not when the AI craze still drives the market.

5090 is fixed. Got the new fuses from Mouser today and installed them after work. My SMD soldering is ghetto-looking because I am scared of exploding caps and blowing small parts off their pads with my hot air station and always use an iron. Using the hot plate to preheat the GPU to 110°C helped a ton using the iron. (I should buy a dead mobo or GPU on eBay super cheap and use it for practice to get over my fear of messing things up with the hot air.) But, hey, it works now. Powered through an 800W run of Steel Nomad to confirm it. I had ordered new thermal pads for the block and they got delayed from Amazon, so I will have to take it apart again tomorrow after work to replace the thermal poop with liquid metail and install the new pads. (Assuming they are actually delivered tomorrow.)

Happy birthday @Papusan! Hopefully it is a good one and shout out to Mrs Papusan! -------------------------------------------------------------- 4k only WoW testing to see if I wanted to upgrade/switch the wife's SP109 14900KS + 4000 Bdie tuned at 4000 vs 270k + KB 8400 tuned at 8400 (both passed TM5 Extreme). Tuned up the 270k at 5.6ghz with the KingBank 8400 sticks ran some vs tests with the same settings as the wife's 14900ks DDR4 tuned system and the 270k officially equals the 14900ks at 4k with the exact same CPU bound results even with a 9070xt in areas (fixed spots out in the world devoid of player data, namely Eversong Woods) dropping to 91-93% whereas the 9800X3D can lock it down to 100% on those same 9070xt cards. This is setting up two platforms and the 270k running the Powercolor 9070xt Red Devil and hers running the Gigabyte OC Gaming 9070xt. Swapped cards back and forth, basically the same results. In same scenarios, Red Devil runs 3200+, while the Gigabyte runs 3100+. Red Devil pulls ~18w more stock for stock too. Gigabyte = SK Hynix Red Devil = Samsung Overall, even in raids, scary just how powerful the 5090 is and how much Blizzard has improved their optimizations for GPUs but they really do need to to where I can cap out the 9070xt easily in raids on X3D at 4k and even push the 5090 close to cap out many times even with all the FX going on and seeing 70-98% utilization depending on encounter and situation. I must reiterate how much the Intel anything + 9070xt is dogwater for Fallout 76. Running the 270k + 9070xt again is just the worst...... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Couldn't resist and picked up an open box Asus G16 9955HX3D + 5070ti for $1800 from Amazon Warehouse to do some testing especially in Fallout 76 since the Alienware 275hx + 5070ti was grossly underfeeding the 5070ti in spots in QHD most likely due to the architecture and inability to tune memory / support much higher speeds. Need to see if the 9955HX3D caps it out properly at QHD and at what fps. Pros: The Asus bios for AMD supports full Overclocking options for AMD versus the Intel counterpart. This model is known to run dead silent on light/ no load for desktop use Actually has a lower sound profile under load than the Alienware Cons: No out of box BIOS level memory tuning for the 32GB of DDR5 5600 memory (2x16GB). If the 9955HX3D caps out the 5070ti in Fallout 76 in QHD, which I expect it to do considering a 9800X3D caps out a desktop 5070 in QHD, it gives more weight to a potential 9955HX3D+5090 laptop. @win32asmguy how goes the Raider tuning and testing? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Still waiting on Asus to send the X870e Dark Hero so I can set up a test bench with it with the delidded 9850X3D and collect more WoW/Fallout 76 data testing all my cards: 5060, 9070xt x 2, 5080, 5090, 6000. It's the linchpin to start moving other parts around and get the SFF going too. ------------------------------------------------------------------- @tps3443 Titan Rig has a nice open box sale on an Astral GPU block if you want to block your beast: https://www.titanrig.com/openbox-alphacool-core-geforce-rtx-5090-rog-astral-gpu-water-block-with-backplate.html

Interesting. My lenovo system recognizes the card with that vbios while the Clevo does not. It does boost up to 1911, but the power limit is not behaving right. I'm hitting the power limit at around 120W, even at the stock 150W, or if I raise it to 175W. I tried 8GHz RAM on that which worked. Trying 9GHz and 8.5GHz got me locked to 6GHz though. GPUz would report the set overclock as the default clock, but it would actually run 6Ghz. Overall perf is worse on this even with 8GHz ram. Clock offsets would be fun if you could get that to work.

This stock HP VR backpack bios worked to make the card post and get the core to 1911Mhz, I am trying to reverse engineer it to find where the 1911M hz limit is VS the 1708Mhz limit in the dell vbios. P5200_HP_ZVRG1.bin

4090 works very well on the 9900k better than on the i7 4940MX/4930K 390FPS on Heaven benchmark 1080p Ultra.

Sad, but you are probably right:( I wish mxm had become a broader standard and the cards weren't so damn rare. A rare card plus 100+usd cooler is not something I can afford, but it is cool to know that solutions exist to bring these laptops forward, hopefully until the 9900k becomes totally obsolete. For now, in terms of the power limit, the old driver wouldn't work great for new games, plus most of my use of the computer is on Linux where I have no idea how the power limit thing works. It may be dumb, but would putting a higher value shunt in place of the default one be an acceptable way to bring the power limit down a bit? Is there a vbios that would lower it? can the stock vbios be modded for a lower limit? As much as I like the idea of crazy stationary watercooling or mods that stick out the bottom of the case, this laptop needs to be portable enouugh to take to classes and durable enough to get tossed around on unpaved highways washboards without a fragile mod breaking or a fitting leaking fluid everywhere. They are annoying contstraints to work within when a solution to all my problems may well be cutting the bottom off and directing a 120mm fan into the base of the laptop, but I do still have to use this laptop for things