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@2CPU @amirhesamsadeghpour I'm running at 2933mhz, but what is the value to run at 3200mhz?

Hey guys. There is a nifty new DDR5 tool available for free during beta. You can export a HWiNFO64 report as XML and import it, then analyze your settings. It will tell you what the recommended changes are per DDR5 standards. I loosened my tRC and tRAS based on what the program told me to change. Speeds and latency are still very good. [BETA] Memory Foundry Pro – RAM Stability Tester & Benchmark | Free Beta Access It also has a built-in benchmark tool.

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What do you think about this, are there any potential negative sides? So far I see only the positive ones: - Significant simplification of dust cleaning - Significant reduction or almost complete removal of dust reaching and sticking to the fans (only some amount of the smallest particles make it through) - No need for any physical interaction with the fans and their surroundings - The fans keep being "young" for much longer - Thus, the default cooling efficiency stays the same much longer and doesn't degrade over the time

Hey everyone, I’m running a modified legacy setup and could use some advice from the MXM / VBIOS modding experts here who know the behavior of these specific workstations. Hardware Configuration: Laptop: HP EliteBook 8570w (Ivy Bridge platform) MXM GPU: NVIDIA Quadro M1000M (Maxwell GM107) VBIOS Version: 82.07.8D.00.15 (Native HP mobile firmware, Build Date: 2015-10-29, Flashed using the verified HP dump directly from the TPU Database: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/239513/239513) Display Panel: Original factory-matching 10-bit HP DreamColor assembly (LG Display) Monitor Hardware ID: MONITOR\LGD0220 Device Manager Name: "Integrated Monitor" Device Manager Description: "Generic PnP Monitor" OS & Driver: Windows 11 running in pure UEFI mode (Legacy CSM disabled). Modified driver package (INF patched for Hardware IDs). The Problem: The machine boots perfectly through POST/BIOS, but during the Windows 11 login handoff, the NVIDIA driver initializes the panel at a static, dim baseline—not completely blacked out, but noticeably dimmer than what is actually set in the active Windows power plan. The hardware and driver are completely stable, but the power/brightness state is totally desynced at startup. Interestingly, if I press the physical Brightness Down key once, the screen instantly snaps out of the dim state, restores its original full brightness level from the power plan, and moves down a single notch. This proves the display link and backlighting are completely healthy, but the driver is caching the wrong initial value until a physical hardware interrupt forces it to evaluate the active OS power plan state. Device Manager Details: In Device Manager, the screen shows up under the name "Integrated Monitor", but its Device Description field reads "Generic PnP Monitor". This indicates that while Windows recognizes the physical internal routing, the modded NVIDIA driver is failing to map the panel's EDID string correctly on boot, resulting in a generic fallback power state until an interrupt occurs. Attempting to use low-level software utilities (like sending direct DDC/CI commands via Session 0) to force the brightness value during the boot sequence completely locks up the DreamColor microcontroller, requiring a full battery/CMOS flush to recover physical Fn key control. What I need help with: Since the card is running a native HP 82.07.8D.00.15 VBIOS, the state desync is happening strictly during the Windows driver initialization handshake with this specific factory assembly. Has anyone successfully dealt with this specific boot-up dimming state desync on Maxwell/Pascal card swaps with factory DreamColor boards? Are there specific registry override strings or advanced INF tweaks (like RM_I2cWriteRegistry, Mobile_Registers, or altering mobile power state bitmasks) that I should inject into the driver package to force the NVIDIA Resource Manager to read the active Windows power plan brightness right at startup? Alternatively, does this require a deeper edit to the 82.07.8D.00.15 VBIOS's internal display tables or ACPI mappings to ensure it passes the correct voltage profile to Windows during the handoff on older Ivy Bridge motherboards? Any insight from those who have wrangled with the sensitive hardware handshakes of these DreamColor mapping boards would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Thanks to Maro97 I got the Bios now.

I still have my dual PSU mod laying around. I made this back when I had my dual 980m in SLI and cpu maxed to 4,4GHz. After doing the throttle fix process, I saw 645watts at peak! Keep up the good work.

The Quiet bios is far superior to the Performance bios in my opinion on the 5080 Astral. And I can appreciate how ASUS set these two bios up. The quiet bios does not cap max TGP like most GPU’s with a dual bios option would. The quiet bios is 360-450w, and the performance bios is 400-450w. The Performance bios only runs a much more aggressive fan curve, so much so that you can hear the GPU just a bit. That rear fan noise everyone talks about on the Astral’s. Well, the quiet bios still has a 450w limit, but runs a much quieter fan curve. And the card has such an overkill cooler, you can’t even notice it temp wise. So the quiet bios is just better. No need to mess with the fan curves, this bios has them set up well. Im starting to like this card. 😭 May sell the Zotac instead. generate image code for forums

Exactly why I kept my slightly less performant 5090 core with the Dual 12V2x6 connectors. I think it's almost guaranteed next gen high end will feature 2x of these connectors which is why most newer high end PSUs now feature 2x of them.

Little upgrade, after dissasembly of panel I put some thermal pad for big IC of DC board - I cut out plastic foil between lid and IC. Now panels seems to be cold, previously it was very hot to touch (especially on lower bezel). Will test more with higher brightness, but seems to help somewhat - I though previously that RGB backlight of DC screen was scorching.

That is strange. My WireView Pro 2 is showing my ASUS Prime 5080 idling at 15W. I wonder what it would do if you changed a different vBIOS on the Zotac? It might be the firmware. Unfortunately, a lot of Astral GPU owners that are focused on performance and overall results (including Astral 5090) are not impressed with their purchase. For the price they are charging for Astral 5090 it should be the equivalent of a Galax HOF, but it's far from it. It should have binned core and memory, but it doesn't. It is just fancy and expensive. Nothing more. Some have changed to something better that costs less and sold or returned their overpriced Astral GPU. The black Astral 5090 also has goofy limitations on vBIOS cross flashing. The white Astral 5090 was made a little different and doesn't have the same issue. I think A$$zeus often overpromises, overcharges and under-delivers. They get away with it because the ROG fanboys often value form over function.

I'm looking for help getting newer MXM GPUs working in an HP Z1 G2 AIO workstation and some other MXM systems Below is a detailed explanation of everything I have tried, at this point I am leaning towards using nvflashk (patched version of NVFLASH) to try flashing a different VBIOS. My reasoning is that the HP VBIOS is preventing these card from initializing. Any recommendations for a good generic Nvidia / OEM VBIOS for either the HP RTX 3000 or T1000 (both Type-B) ? I posted numerous screenshots and phots of the cards below System HP Z1 G2 AIO and HP USDT 800 G1 (Dell Precision 7720 is next) Windows 11 x64 UEFI enabled MXM Type-B Card (RTX 3000 & T1000) Problem Cards I now have two HP ZBook MXM cards that exhibit the same behavior: Quadro RTX 3000 MXM (TU106) Quadro T1000 MXM Both are HP OEM Type-B MXM modules removed from HP ZBooks. RTX 3000 Details Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1F36&SUBSYS_860E103C GPU-Z identifies: TU106 HP Subvendor Original HP VBIOS Samsung GDDR6 The card displays video and can function as the primary display adapter. Symptoms With both the RTX 3000 and T1000: Driver installs successfully Device Manager identifies the card correctly Screen flickers/blanks during installation Device Manager shows Code 43 GPU-Z reports: Memory Size = 0 MB Bus Width = Unknown NVIDIA-SMI fails with: "NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver" The cards POST and output video normally (HP Z1 does not have Optimus, so the card for sure is being used as primary display adapter and initially shows as "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter - VGA Capable Adapter" Troubleshooting Performed Verified original HP VBIOS on RTX 3000 Tried multiple NVIDIA driver versions Used DDU between installs Used NVCleanInstall Tried numerous subsystem IDs and INF entries Tested HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer RTX 3000 entries Tried: nvblwi.inf nvmiwi.inf nvdmwi.inf nvltwi.inf nvcawi.inf nv_dispwi.inf Exact HP subsystem entry installs but still results in Code 43 Working Card I have a Quadro P4000 MXM that is now fully working in this system. When I first installed the P4000, it showed symptoms very similar to what I am seeing now: Code 43 0 MB VRAM Bus Width Unknown Driver would install but not initialize Eventually I got the P4000 working by experimenting with different INF entries in NVCleanInstall. I do not remember the exact entry that finally worked, but the first several attempts failed before one finally initialized properly. Once working: NVIDIA drivers loaded normally Native 1440p resolution returned VRAM was detected correctly GPU-Z reported normal specs Card became fully functional Questions Has anyone successfully run an HP RTX 3000 MXM (1F36.860E.103C) in an HP Z1 G2 AIO or other systems like laptops? I have a few MXM laptops and SFF systems (HP USDT, HP Z1 AIO, and Dell Precision 7710/7720) I'd like to use these in. Seeing how you guys are pushing the limits of using unsupported MXM cards in Alienware/Clevo laptops, I am hoping someone knows. Is there a known Turing limitation on the Z1 G2 that does not affect Pascal cards like the P4000? Are there specific INF sections known to work for RTX 3000 MXM upgrades? Has anyone seen both T1000 and RTX 3000 fail with: Code 43 0 MB VRAM Unknown Bus Width Could this indicate a missing MXM signal or platform compatibility issue specific to Turing GPUs? What VBIOS is everyone using to get HP RTX 3000 working on unsupported systems? Any advice from people who have upgraded Alienware MXM rigs or SFF workstations or Z1 AIO systems would be greatly appreciated- thanks for your work keeping these systems in service!

I’m just not as impressed with the 5080 Astral. I was expecting better. It’s a very nice looking GPU, and the dang card weighs a ton. I bought the Astral from a private party sealed/brand new. So no return policy with this one though unfortunately. It has proven to be very stable, I like the GPU software leveling feature, and per pin monitoring is. It doesn’t overclock all that much better than my Zotac’s maybe +50 more MHz, although it does send more voltage at 1075mv. My 5090FE would out clock all three 5080’s I have tested. I was expecting the 5080 to be the king of clocks over 5090. But it just hasn’t been this way. All three 5080’s landed around 3,142-3,187 at 4K using the 450w bios. Now, that’s not exactly a fair comparison. The 5090 was on water cooling, and it was shunted so it thought it was always pulling half power. My 5090 FE stock on air before shunt would run like 3,030-3,060Mhz depending on how demanding the 4K game was. so technically the 5080’s do clock well past that. 5080’s are all hitting PWR limits at 380’s watt range though. So they really need a shunt mod. They will pull more power but you have a heart monitor looking graph on the “PWR” area in MSI Afterburner, and that can cause latency spikes. The Astral definitely seems to be the best of the three overclocking wise. But it’s also running the coolest so that naturally will happen. I’m leaning towards keeping the Astral, unless someone buys it. I might go ahead and list the Zotac 5080 as well. And let fate decide! Whichever one sells I can keep the opposite lol. Also, one way to test your stock air cooled 5090 for max clocks to see how it would run “IF” shunted and on water. Go run Unigine Heaven at 1080P windowed auto fan speed, and start adding clocks in MSI AB, with HWinfo open, check the max reported clock speed during this period. Then subtract -70Mhz from that max. That clock speed is where it will land. I’m going to guess and say your MSI is probably a really good sample. I think your Astral probably was too. This method is nearly fool proof though.

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That $1k Zotac 5080 was all you needed in the here and now bro! I liked my overpriced Astral 5090, but it wasn't worth the $3399 I paid and remember it went back to BB on Day 59 of the 60 day return window for a good reason. The one I had was a 1.105 and I thought it was decent, but the $2064 open box Ventus was also 1.105v and matched it easily and the $1971 Vanguard 1.125v beat them both but you'll also remember I didn't care when buying because all I wanted was true MSRP. I hope you can return it because outside of aesthetics (I do love the way the Astrals look) and that monster cooler on the Astral 5090, I saved ~$1500 and ended up with a better card. Return it Block that Zotac $$$$ Win! I think I like the retro look because that really was in style back then. You would have to make the whole system retro to lock it in but it is $800 beans and in stock at Newegg. For $800 and aesthetics driving the narrative, I'd snag an open box Godlike or Apex for that price and pocket the difference. Unless there is true differentiation in features, it will be striking a balance between features and price. Greatest weight off my chest was returning that Astral 5090. Nvidia keeps hitting us with the shell game for raw performance uplift while tying to up sell us on DLSS/FG and whatever else they can use to boost performance without giving the middle and lower end of the market true performance leaps. Unfortunately it is hard for me to settle for nothing else but flagship models from either Nvidia or AMD especially with Nvidia and the performance delta between the 090 and 080 the last two generations has been so substantial. I'd like to say I'm going to skip the 6090, but if it provides a similar performance uplift (or more) over the 6080 like the 5090 over the 5080, this is me yet again: -------------------------------- Ah.... I mean, the Astral 5090 was perfection in so many ways except price. If you paid no more than ~$1300 for the Astral, I would keep it and sell the Zotac 5080 if possible depending on what the voltage and capability is on the Astral 5080. Where did the voltage top out? And yeah, that cooler is beefy AF. This generation, Suprim, Astral and Vanguard have the beefiest air coolers for the 5090s and they are behemoths.

I forgot my bios show the following data with my current bios: VGA: Unknown VBIOS Revision: 94.04.46.00.15 VBIOS Build Date: 02/05/21 And after 1 Minute, the FAN's go 100% and 1 more Minute it powers off the Clevo. The seller said the card is from a X170.

Hello P870 Community, is there anyone out there, that have the bios for P870TM + 3080 handy? I searched the whole forum and other websites, but I can't find the correct bios file. My bios is Dsanke 1.07.16 + EC 1.05.04. with i9 9900kf After I modded my vaporchamber with standard tools like angel grander, standing drilling maschine + 2mm drill + 8mm drill, and for the bracket adapter, I used the old 1080 back bracket and cutted of the "arms" with the M2 thread. Drilled a 2mm hole in all 4 "mini arms" and file down the M2 thread to 1mm as it is a bit to high and would not raise the GPU to the vaporchamber. Then I screw them to the 3080, so they "look" to the GPU-Die. I also used the electric nail file from my wife to make the 2mm hole in the arms a bit more to a oblong hole, so I had a little variable mounting position to meet the old 1080 mounts. I marked the picture with yellow marker where I have made my changes: everything is connected to the vaporchamber and should have propper contact after checking 3 times. Now I "only" need the bios with 3080 support ;-) It would be really nice if someone can send it to me. Best regards Mike

I bought this Astral from a Reseller on Marketplace who is local to me. It was sealed in the box. After I handed them the money, I opened it right in the spot to just confirm it was legit. And it definitely was, so I grabbed it. It’s a very nice 5080 though! It’s actually starting to grow on me. 😬 uh oh. 😂 I do like the cooler on it. Man, it runs like 58c full tilt overclock with its default 450w bios. And auto fans. My Zotac 5080’s are pretty good but horribly inefficient idling on the desktop. As a matter of fact, both Zotac 5080’s I tested idled at 30-40 watts. This Astral idles at 10-13 watts. That 5090 cooler on this thing is the real deal.

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