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Hi all. I'm new to this forum, but a longtime m6700 user. I have 3 of them, that I use for different purposes. One was my main system, but has been pretty much retired. Of the other 2, one is used to record audio at 192KHz and 64 bit float into Cubase 12 Pro, while the other is used to run lights, sound and video for theater productions. All three are configured the same. Win 10 x64 Pro, i7-3740QM, K5000M, 32GB RAM. At home, I use them in a docking station. For a long time I was using them with dual 1920x1080 external monitors into a KVM with 2 video ports, 1 VGA and 1 DVI. The other system on the KVM is a Dell Precision 7920 with an NVidia GeForce GTX 970. Everything with that setup was fine, then I had to go and screw it up. 😬 I needed a fairly large 4K monitor for a play I was doing. I chose a Dell S3225QS, because of the display port. Obviously, once the play was over, I replaced my dual monitors with the S3225QS, and replaced my VGA/DVI KVM with a DisplayPort KVM. And of course here's where the problems comes in. The m6700 will do 3840x2160 from the DisplayPort, but not at 60Hz (I think the max refresh rate is in the 30s). The monitor isn't agile enough to bounce between the refresh rates. There's a Dell forum that claims the E-Port Plus will support dual 4k monitors at 60 Hz with the NVidia card, but I don't get that option when trying to connect any of my m6700s. Am I doing something wrong?

Red is correct, the shunt resistor has 4 pins for "Kelvin sensing" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-terminal_sensing ideally the shunt should be entirely replaced but that is a bit of a pain to do

curious to see which one, if ANY, of my four gpu power cables (all by seasonic) will be inside spec at stock and/or evenly distributed across the pins at hiher wattages...

It is full of compromises yes! But, with some re-pasting, with some tweaks in Throttle stop, it has turned into a butter smooth gaming beast where you find yourself just enjoying the experience of gaming or working, without seeing any limits the machines may have. See, it's okay to have a 4090-gaming laptop when you own a 5090-gaming desktop. I think if we can accept that laptops offer a lower level of performance compared to desktops, but they can provide a smooth portable experience, then we'll be okay with them. I owned an Intel ARC B580, and that thing absolutely sucked in comparison to my 4090 laptop GPU, they were many miles apart. So, it was far better than that was! lol. No VR support, horrible upscaling, weak performance in games. If I get tired of the laptop, I just walk over to my desktop. So, since I have a fallback system, I am okay with any downsides with the laptop has, and I think that is why some can bare it. If I do sell it, I probably won't get another laptop.

"Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong," known as Murphy's Law. I'm pretty sure that a third of all new graphics card with the tiny trash has same or similar problems without knowing it. Perfectly connected or not doesn't matter. The difference is how long it will works before ot goes up in smoke.

More observations: The 14Z90T comes with LG software called "My gram" instead of the LG Smart Assistant on the 14Z90RU or my 2024 Gram Pro. "My gram" is a step or two backwards in terms of providing easy user access to features such as fan settings and battery management (Fn+F7 also steps through the fan settings). The home page of "My Gram" is dominated by some coloured graphics which look as they have escaped from some childrens' game while the text on the PC maintenance pages isn't friendly to anyone with aging eyes. I thought the folder for LG Smart Assistant was bloated as it takes up about 1/2GB but "My gram" is nearly double that! I have to admit. however, that I hadn't tried the LG gram Link software until I was setting up the 14Z90T. I've now realised that it is an easy way of moving files between phone and computer. Both the 14Z90T and the 14Z90RU have the same good 1920 x 1200 LGD06EC display. The 14Z90T doesn't have a micro-SD card reader, the RU does. Another subtle difference between the two models is that the T has a smaller dent at the front of the chassis which makes opening the display more difficult than the RU with its bigger dent. Perhaps 2026 will reveal which is LG's preference going forwards. It's time to look at the basic hardware. For some reason, the 14Z90T has the Intel AX211 WiFi / Bluetooth chip instead of the newer BE201 chip. Not that most users have a desparate need for whatever extra the newer chip offers. In other respects it's an Arrow Lake machine with the Intel Ultra 7 255H CPU. This raises the question of why did LG put the 28W CPU into the smallest of the 2025 gram family instead of the lower-rated Lunar Lake CPU? Was availability a factor? The CPU is supported by 16GB of LPDDR5 RAM which is both faster than the DDR4 RAM in the 14Z90RU but also the DDR5 RAM in my gram 17 Pro.

My primary interest in the product is to monitor what is happening with my GPU. I have a thermal sensor inserted into the cable and the temperatures have always remained low enough to not be a concern. But, I am not convinced that the readings are 100% reliable or indicative of what is happening at the individual pin level. My hope is that if there is ever a failure it will occur between the PSU and the WireView and the GPU will be spared. So, I am thinking (hoping) there is a chance that the WireView II Pro will serve as the sacrificial component if disaster strikes, while giving me a better understanding of what is happening that cannot be seen or felt without it.

What I think... TG wanted the extended warranty to calm down buyers using 3rd party parts. I would prefer they scrapped the extended warranty and offered cheaper items.

They would be crazy to provide any kind of warranty for using a system outside of OEM specs. Failure of the 12V-2x6/12VHPWR is likely even when the GPUs using that connectors are utilized at or below the OEM specifications. I would even question the intelligence of providing a warranty for those that are used within OEM specs. Thermal Grizzly is assuming an unreasonable risk that that NVIDIA created when it made this engineering abortion a standard and it would not surprise me to see Thermal Grizzly stop providing a warranty on new WireView II Pro sales at some point in the near future.

The problem is laptops are built with a obsessive degree of focus on embracing compromise. They are compromised in every possible measurement, sacrificing performance and giving the greatest levels of priority to: Form factor Weight Power consumption Battery run time Noise Aesthetics Performance is always a secondary consideration and less important. The only way to truly appreciate a turdbook is to value those other things more than one values performance. They are built to be disposable, limited use products... limited in lifespan, service, repairability, upgradability and performance.

I do not remember using it with my Sager 15" 8086K laptop. I remember benching/gaming without any sort of phantom throttling. I was battling heat with that thing most of all. The biggest issue I have had with this laptop is not really throttling, but the bios is so locked down that I could not turn off the CPU power saving features. When I play games on it, Intel SpeedStep and C1E were just always working at their hardest. So, all of the CPU cores were flickering down/up/down/up/down to lo/high frequencies. All of the CPU core frequencies looked something like this graph below. And this was causing GPU usage to just tank. Since installing throttlestop, I have turned those features off, it has allowed me to change the max pwr limit some as well. It was also causing micro stuttering really bad. For the first time, the machine actually runs smooth. PS: I am running my default GPU bios again with full performance. I am not sure why its performance was gimped before. The machine is able to run normal 5.1-5.2Ghz in games, and 3.9-4.1Ghz on the E-Cores in games. I keep my 4090 undervolted to 2.1Ghz@800mv so the CPU always runs full speed in games, and those two are not fighting over power sharing.

Happy New Year brothers!

I am more incline to keep both, as I go through the benching process to see which will work best for gaming and the other for productivity. One will go into my 3960X build for my video editing needs and the other will go into the 14900KS gaming rig. The new cards will be replacing the 4070 TI and 6900XT. In terms of spare parts, all of my spare motherboards, RAM kits and CPUs are on the higher end of things. I know I won't be able to recoup most of my costs - unless the used market really does turn to a wasteland. For example, my DDR4 RAM sets are nuts. I have the four sticks of CL19 4000MTs I got from @Mr. Fox , four sticks of G.Skill non-RGB CL15 3600, and four of the super overpriced Trident Z Royal Gold (non-Elite) CL18 4800MT DDR4 RAM sticks. I never got these sticks to run at that speed with any of my CPUs, lol. Of course I have the G.Skill NEO sets I previously shown to you all. I really had a tech addiction it seems, lol.

I commented in my mini-review of the 14Z90RU that I needed to find a reason to buy the 14Z90T in order to compare the two models. Conveniently, a family member's 12 year old Samsung notebook was finally falling apart which provided an opportunity to pass along one of my notebooks so I ordered the 14Z90T from Amazon. It was an ex-return which hadn't had much use. My 14Z90T came in a fairly plain brown box which contrasts with the premium-looking black box of the 14Z90RU. My first finding was that the 14Z90T was, indeed, heavier than the 14Z90R. At 1.12kg it is what the specifications claimed. Why is it heavier? i don't know all the reasons but the bottom of the 14Z90T weighs 109 grams vs 64 grams for the 14Z90RU. The lighter part is a silver colour inside, a 2025-02-26 date stamp and is marked "Material>Mg". The heavier part is dated 2025-02-22 (the notebook manufacturing date was 2025-03-17) but without other information. It has a black finish on the inside. Why paint it - for better absorption of heat radiated from the electronics? Is it magnesium? Another difference is T has a long bar on the outside instead of the two back feet (14Z90T on left, 14Z90RU on right). My 2024 gram Pro also has the long bar. Is it to reduce recirculation of the hot air that is blown out of the backs of the notebooks? I also wondered if the 14Z90T had two fans, which would explain the extra weight. No, it's only got one fan but it is slightly larger than that in the 14Z90RU. The T has the expected two SSD slots but the slot nearest the CPU is marked SSD2. I can see no difference in the performance. Perhaps that slot is deemed secondary because it's nearer the CPU and likely to get hotter. The supplied SSD is the same model of 512GB Phison SSD as in the RU. Performance is good but not class-leading: The keyboard has the Copilot key where the right Ctrl key belongs. There's also a squiggle on the left end of the space bar. I haven't yet discovered the meaning of this. The T model has the infra-red camera for login.

TG should have two price options. Cheaper for those running XOC/shunted cards out of specs. The reason for the higher prices with this gen WV is the extended warranty. $140 USD + shipping with tax on top ain't cheap. Even for a great product. 2. Covered Damage • The WireView Pro II must have been installed, operated, and used in accordance with the user manual. Protective mechanisms such as current, temperature, and power monitoring must be used with their standard settings and thresholds, and must not be disabled. • The use must remain within the operational parameters specified by the graphics card manufacturer (e.g., no shunt mods, no XOC BIOS with increase 4. Exclusions The warranty does not cover damage: • caused by external influences (e.g., overvoltage, lightning, moisture, mechanical impact); • resulting from the use of non-recommended adapters or cable combinations (e.g., low-quality adapters); • caused by modifications or improper alterations to the graphics card or the WireView Pro II (e.g., shunt modifications). • resulting from misuse, failure to follow the user manual, or professional use beyond the intended specifications. ExtendedWarrantyTerms_WV-P-2

Looks like a great product. I look forward to receiving mine. The WireView is definitely merely a band-aid solution to a genuinely defective product. Nothing will ever fix the underlying engineering defects and nothing can make it a good, reliable or safe connector. I am honestly shocked that none of the GPU manufacturers have chosen to disregard the rules and go back to using legacy 8-pin PCIe connectors.

you juuust beat me to it 😄

On the topic of WireView Pro II...

I made it like red

I have decided to use my iPad as my only "computer" for a week starting today. I am going to goto my desk and setup my dock to plug into. See how it goes. If I make it a week without any issues, I will push to a month. The things I need this to do is photo, video and graphics editing, podcast creation with multiple inputs, Home inspection software duties and other professional work like Office 365 stuff. If I can do all of that without issue. I will be good to go. Oh, and I need to be able to create websites via wix.

New score now with IETS GT600:

In the picture, I have once again highlighted where I made the most important change to the MXM board! In case that wasn't clear enough. The DisplayPort lanes must be routed accurately!

Hi guys, I'm new here so I hope it's OK to start a new topic in this context. Over the course of several months last year I put together a website all about the Dell Precision M6800. I first got one back in 2019 and have since fell in love with these older mobile workstations. I have also acquired much information on the machine, both through my own experimentation and research, and from scouring the web. Having pages and pages of notes I made the website first and foremost as a sanity project, to force me to go through and organize everything into a semi-coherent state. The site is currently hosted at one of my free webhost accounts, hence the funky address. I have been thinking about giving it a proper domain name but will see if there's enough interest as part of my decision to commit to spending actual money on it. The site is entirely hand-written old-school HTML as that's what I like to use, with the added benefit of keeping it as lightweight as possible. I'd love to hear your thoughts, good or bad, and recommendations for any additions. One of the areas that I don't have much experience in that I wouldn't mind expanding on is the use of unsupported graphics cards (I know there's a whole community around that), so would be open to hosting decently-written guides with pictures. LINK: DELL PRECISION M6800

@Teo In early December my system would randomly get freezes and then the problem stopped until yesterday when my system suddenly froze when I was not running anything heavy on the CPU. I have a i9-11900KF and I have been searching online if the processor has unstability issues and I have not found anything so far. My SSD is not running hot but the CPU (or maybe GPU?) certainly is getting hot. I cannot get actual temperature values since the system locks up everything just before the any CPU monitor software shows the temperature change. While trying to do the offline Windows reset, the system freezes at exactly 48% and then the fans start spinning faster and louder. The system does not restart - it just remains frozen while the CPU gets hotter and fans get louder. My BIOS is unlocked but I have not yet tweaked anything for both the CPU and memory, so all settings should be the defaults. I unlocked the BIOS hoping to test integrated graphics on a non-F processor at some point in the future, but I have not yet found a processor to test with. Do you know of any possible solutions to keep the CPU from getting hot? My system is Origin X170KM-G i9-11900KF RAM: 64GB DRAM Freq.: 2400MHz GPU: RTX 3060 BIOS: 1.07.07TOPC EC: 1.07.04