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Mumak has a test build available that has hotspot temps. Here is a link to his post. https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/nvidia-rtx-5080-incorrect-gpu-hotspot-temp-missing-3rd-fan-speed-summary-info.10306/post-52987

And they say AI and LLM are useless. I used my robot and got this added in less than 30 minutes.

HWiNFO adds RTX 50 hotspot temperature reporting, RTSS can display it too No Hot Spot for MSI Afterburner, but RTSS supports it MSI Afterburner developer Alexey “Unwinder” Nicolaychuk explained that he cannot add RTX 50 hotspot monitoring directly to Afterburner for legal and marketing reasons. MSI Afterburner is official NVIDIA partner-branded software, so its monitoring features must rely on sensors exposed through NVIDIA’s supported NVAPI interfaces. Due to some weird reasons NVIDIA still keeps VRAM/hotspot temperature monitoring interfaces for private internal NV software only, they are not open even to partners making NVIDIA bases graphics cards. Every single currently existing tool displaying VRAM/hotspot temperatgure on NVIDIA side rely on reverse engineered private NVAPI interfaces (or even direct GPU access in case of RTX 5000 cards), which doesn’t make green GPU vendor too happy. — Unwinder RTX 50 hotspot data is hidden from NVAPI and can only be accessed through direct GPU register reads, while earlier hotspot and VRAM readings used reverse-engineered private interfaces. Unwinder can demonstrate this access through his independent RivaTuner Statistics Server project, but he cannot include an unofficial implementation in MSI Afterburner unless NVIDIA adds the sensor to its public API. Unwider strongly suggests that someone create a plugin that would allow for easy unofficial support.

V1.3.4 released. GitHub updated. Anyone with a pascal mobile card, a 1.8 volt firmware flasher like CH341a and spare time is welcome to use the program and try creating some custom vbioses. If you encounter issues I will ttake a look as to improve the program ! I can also use some testers for quadro P6 and P106m so that I can look into creating completely custom vbios for these cards.

Good news, because HWMonitor sucks. Another happy degradation-free experience with 13th and 14th Gen Intel.

so guys, seems like HWInfo is already on it with Blackwell hotspot readouts:

That was a really fantastic deal by 2026 "standards" (as if there are any now) in this insane AI-crazed world we are biding our time in.

Sometimes Microcenter makes zero sense. I snagged that $1079.99 open box "Complete" GB Windforce 5080 and planned to pick it up today but then a $1034.99 (983.24 after MC discount) open box popped up "Incomplete As is" but for $45 bucks, I don't care about accessories and stuff so I grabbed that one. Crack it open before I leave the parking lot to take a looksy.... "Incomplete As Is" = looks brand new with everything in the box complete down to the original plastic covering, port inserts and interface plastic sleeve. It look so new I held it up against the light to look through the side to make sure I could see the core even though I know MC tests their returns. Get it home and swap it into the 270k rig, DDU it, 610.74 drivers and it works exactly as it should scoring ~32k-33k GPU at pure stock low 60s on temps nice and quiet. *Shrug* go figure.... I also picked up one of their 7500X3D + Asrock B850 mATX bundles for $249.99 ($237.50 after MC discount) to kick off the Jonsbo Z20 fun with the KB 8400 2x24GB sticks on the shelf. https://www.microcenter.com/product/709974/amd-ryzen-5-7500x3d,-asrock-b850m-c-cpu-motherboard-bundle --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Argh! I would have snagged that. Did you get it? I'm glad at least you had a bright moment during a dark time brother. Hopefully we can look at on this a year now and remember and you'll be in a better place. Hope the pizza was delicious!

I recall having to run my M15x with the Dell 980M without a battery. The SMBus would hang and fans would get stuck at whatever RPM when the BIOS had the bus management issue. Amazing system that lasted me so long from 680M all the way to 980M. It even ran VR on Oculus Rift with modified Intel USB drivers.

I'm happy to hear that you are making progress but sad that you are having to go through it.

I think my RAM sticks are maxed out at 2667.

I want it in GPU-Z. This is me from one of the very best days I have had the last two months. Today going out and eat (outside my preferred place). I don't know if I will be the same as before. It will take time. Loads of time before I will/start feel well with myself. I feel broken🙁 They say it takes at least a year before you can feel more confident. The first 3 months after the stroke is critical. After one year you can start feel safer and try come back to yourself. The progress goes slow but steady forwards. Thanks for asking my good friend🙂

Timespy Dev wrote that the 5080 causes CPU overhead issues due to their code. (so it is not ideal to test with) Just tried 48x @ -0.120V and came in similar. Not sure if because I have steam also running since that's how I got the demo. CPU at 85.6* Fans are set to full speed.

Looking for professional/expert advice: max budget 1700eur (slight stretch if really necessary but reverse would be preferred). 1. Looking for a budget high end laptop 2. as light weight as possible and if possible (preferred but without ok) flip style tactile screen(+stylus), sleek, professional design rather than gaming type design. 3. In the line of lenovo yoga laptops, hp elitebooks, msi summit e16 laptops. 4. Specific requirements: the laptop must handle mid heavy workload (among heavyworkloads mid range; no need for super ultra performance but high end for casual professional without compromises and room for doing/trying "any" stuff smoothly): multitasking, video editing, web browsing multiple tabs at once everything as smooth as possible. 5.The laptop should handle ai processes/run background/weather future trends ai (something new released in the market this laptop can run). 6.The laptop should handle light mid gaming complete smooth + aaa and new titles (Example upcoming neo Berlin, cyberpunk 2077 and likewise heavy titles) straightforward this laptop should handle any (any) game smoothly with adequate settings, with funtionality dlss/fsr included* (not professional here not sure what that means in practice) *included means mandatory, if necessary, as long as laptop checks requirements as fine as described. 7. Profile: professional and casual individual/female 30s/gaming from time to time but would rather have total room for any (any) type of game and new releases. Laptop/elitebook for work station (base requirement). Looking for a laptop accessible price and high end when thinking anything would handle task. If any professional/expert has time to provide answer/list of laptops would best suit this profile. Nb. Upgrades seem rather expensive, the laptop preferred would have 1to ssd+ 32go ram out of the box. Still if laptop less ram (16go)/ssd (516go) but best profile would suit with room for upgrade do provide list. DDR5-6 preferred / unless professional advice says otherwise (great performance with DDR4 for example combined all other specs of the laptop + regarding market trends/trajectory/updates), Sound/audio profile of laptop important if possible, best, clear, as possible. Additional not mandatory (preferred): - Shutter camera - Memory card slot (+++preferred if possible) - Thunderbolt port - Hdmi port - ports with great performances (great transfer rates) - laptop can run external monitor - fans, cooling system performance is great +++ (longevity). - battery is great even under sustained workload mainly and gaming (Here profile not gaming heavily few times a month or week + can stop at 2-2.5hours).

just a follow up to my question - apparently you can order 2026 Grams with US ANSI keyboard from amazon.com, they do ship to Europe

As it turns out B&H had an open box 9955HX3D + 5090 model for $3375. Supposedly that config was discontinued by MSI as they ran out of Hynix 32GB modules (Micron and Samsung have compatibility issues with Fire Range).

Makes sense. I would love to compare/contrast the much cheaper V-color CL26 sticks but they're both pricey endevours. Still mulling it over, but those cores aren't great on second glance. Very wide range of voltages and pretty beefy on some of them. IMC is fantastic though overall. It really is a sample focused on fine tuning memory as the primary goal. I wouldn't put anything past Nvidia especially after they purposely killed off MXM and removed SLI as an option on consumer level cards. We're seeing them in true boss form right now in the worse way. It's a combination of being a reviewer, work (albeit that is mainly a lot of Mac hardware nobody cares about in these threads), and sometimes being asked my true assessment of particular hardware from a few NDA sources who apparently value my opinion....who whudda thunk it? 🤣 I will say this, expect a lot and I do mean a lot of cut down options (16GB + 512GB) on models that normally would come with 32GB + 1TB standard on some mid tier models wise and expect a lot of 2024/2025 rehashing of CPUs (14th gen Intel, 8000 series AMD) paired with low to mid (5050->5070) 5000 series GPUs for grossly inflated pricing in the land of laptops. We're already seeing refreshed 290hx models on the top end going for $5-6k which is absolutely mind boggling but even worse we'll be seeing rehashed 14th gen models with mid tier or lower 5000 series GPUs (5060 even) going for $2k to start. If I was in the market right now for a decent laptop, I would look to last year's inventory clear out and then look for open box or used on top of that to save a major bit of coin. Same 5000 series and for gamers, the CPU refreshes aren't really bringing anything major to the table. Right now, with things in the pipeline as they are, the 9955HX3D Raider 18 is a good option if you can lock down a sub $3k variant. The 5090 version is quickly entering unicorn status it seems. Hopefully not a situation of Nvidia influencing them to not add it as a readout. Now we need MSI AB to add it in for their OSD. How ya feeling @Papusan? Hopefully things are moving in a positive direction for ya.

Not sure why GPU-Z is so slow NVIDIA RTX 50 Series Hotspot Temperature Readings Are Back Through HWMonitor Utility https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-50-series-hotspot-temperature-readings-are-back-through-hwmonitor-utility/

I still use my laptop every day at home and taking it with me to work or when traveling. My wife has now switched to either using the desktop connected to our TV or the Lunar Lake MSI Claw 8. Its a shame that Thin and Light dominates the market. I have heard Nvidia prefers those types of designs and could even refuse to supply their chips into something that they deem would go against their marketing direction like the old X170 or GT75. Then we have the BIOS lockdown cartel where even if you have the right combination of hardware you may not be able to tune it. It is cool that they sent those laptops to you for free. Is that a deal through your work? The pricing is getting pretty crazy, especially when you get into these preconfigured models where there is no option for less RAM or SSD. 9955HX3D Raider 18 is definitely a good option if you can find a deal. B&H sometimes has good pricing on open box MSI models if they also have a sale active on the new model. I still think Fire Range is superior to Arrow Lake when it applies to mobile platforms. Not even 290HX Plus can really boost 1% lows up with how difficult it is to run tuned SODIMMs stability.

@Will Short answer : Yes and yes Yes, the dGPU will be used a a video accelerator selectable in windows. This allows even GPUs with no display outputs at all such as MXM gpus like the quadro tesla M6, P6, P106m, etc, to work in MXM based laptops Yes, I had put a P3000m in my zbook 17 g3 and I would get no dipslay out if I forced dGPU in the vbios, the reason being that zbook had eDP on DP_C and the card had eDP on DP_D. What I ended up doing was bridging the 3.3v and PNL_ON and PWM of the MXM slot and then forced the graphics mod to dGPU only in the vbios to get a video out. I then had a picture on the screen with no way to adjust brightness, it was stuck at 100%. Using an eDP cable mod v1 or v2 will be much simpler (and less stressful) than soldering direclty to the pins. HOWEVER, nvidia drivers will decide "screw that" after they install and will disconnect the dGPU from the screen, usually ~10 seconds after windows loads and the driver starts. SuperMG found a workaround in windows to force the screen to stay on after the drivers install luckily, it is detailed in his "eDP cable mod" PDF instrutions.

The thing that is even more stupid than Samsung doing this is the reality that some people will fall in line, like good little sheeple, and do it. The will rationalize the decision because they "have nothing to hide" or because it is "for the greater good" but at the end of the day everyone else knows they are idiots that are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

Ready to send over your data to help Samsung bro @Mr. Fox🙄 Me buying an Samsung smartphone? Nope. Not in hell. Hell will freeze first. Samsung is holding your health data hostage to train its AI Samsung Health now requires users to consent to AI training on their health data or lose access to it, raising serious privacy concerns

Regarding the GPU, it's known that the ZBook 15/17 from G1 to G3 (and definitely the G4 as well) have eDP on DP_C. Therefore, if a graphics card with eDP on DP_D were installed - let's say an RTX 4050, for example - I wouldn't get a display on the internal monitor if the SBIOS were configured in discrete/dedicated graphics mode, correct? But if the option were changed to hybrid graphics, would I be able to use it normally with the video passing through the iGPU? And another question: if the GPU has standard DP on DP_C and I use the backlight cable mod, I would get a display on the internal monitor and could use it in discrete graphics mode, correct? @JadeRover@SuperMG can you guys give me some insight on this please?

EDIT: here are some updates after opening the keyboard and accessing the primary memory modules: - Update 1: the laptop had a 32GB SODIMM in DIMM_A. I installed another 32GB SODIMM into the other primary slot - DIMM_C. The laptop then booted just fine (as expected) with total of 96GB. - Update 2: I then relocated the other SODIMM from DIMM_B to DIMM_D, and the laptop still boots fine with 96GB seen. I just acquired a used Dell Precision 7760 laptop from eBay. It's working fine, so I thought I would upgrade RAM. The laptop came with a SODIMM module installed in "slot 3" (as per CPU-Z) which I don't know whether that's DIMM_A or DIMM_C, but it's definitely one of the 2 primary module slots under the keyboard. I have not gotten to opening up the keyboard to access the primary module area, so I thought I'd put an extra 32GB matching SODIMM in DIMM_D (which is on the much more conveniently accessible bottom section of the laptop). The laptop did not boot, with 2 amber lights and then some white lights (sorry, forgot to count precisely). I then switched the new SODIMM into DIMM_B on the bottom side, and the laptop boots and I see 64GB installed. BIOS did report only 1 memory channel active so my guess is that the primary slot corresponding to DIMM_D is not populated, which may hopefully explain the non-boot situation. I have studied the service manual as well as the spec / setup PDFs, but am unable to get clarity on 2 things, so would love if anyone can help with these questions: 1. How do the DIMM_[A/B/C/D] slots correspond to "Slot 1/2/3/4" in CPU-Z? EDIT: DIMM_A is "slot 3" in CPU-Z per my later updates 2. More importantly, is it a known requirement that both the primary modules should be populated first before their corresponding secondary module slots are filled? EDIT: empirically, this does seem to be proven that you need a SODIMM in the primary slot corresponding to the secondary slot you are trying to fill, else the laptop does not boot. Thanks in advance!