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  2. Hello. I want to buy a X170KM-G without CPU and without SSD. Want one with: 16GB of RAM maximum. RTX 3060 maximum. Dual 330W or 780W PSU (can pay +80usd extra for it) Can do 750USD PayPal direct quick payment. Shipping can pay 150USD for Canada/USA Shipping can pay 30€ for Europe It's to test my RTX 4090 MXM. I do need to get the custom heatsink for it and it'll cost more like 300USD...
  3. The test was the Dell Precision M6800 (x8) vs P775TM (x16) in TimeSpy graphics only. Maybe the Dell is too old for the 4090 but good for the 4080. (16100 graphics) 330W PSU minimum for both systems.
  4. Okay, fair enough. I can not argue with that since I do not have any exp with 40th series. With 3080 it was a few percent.
  5. I don’t know if I should flash a vbios that supports uefi. Because the current vbios 90.06.5F.00.32 in GPU-z shows unchecked uefi box. I’m not sure if this is the main problem that made the black screen happen every time i turn on the laptop
  6. Still trying to find a user-friendly guide for an updated and unlocked BIOS for this old laptop.
  7. Hello …. I didn’t use x170 laptops at all
  8. 64GBPS (x8) vs 128GBPS (x16). X8 runs great on 4080 but on 4090 I get 4080 performance, maybe I did something wrong there. PCIe 4 x8 = 3 x16 PCIe 4 x4 = 3 x8 (Oculink speed)
  9. Here is @Maro97 bench from an earlier post and he has P870. It is almost same CPU score what I got from X170K 11900k. Sorry I do not have test for my P870 is disassemblied right now. The 8 lane does not seem to a bottleneck and when I used it there was no problem at all. P775 also uses PCIe gen 3, only from 11th gen PCIe gen 4 is supported but it does not matter either just a few percents. Does not need a vapor for good cooling I have made one from the T-shape heat sink and it was excellent. Only thing why I had to switch to P775 that P870 has no option to make the BIOS mod to RTX and you have to INF mod it. Only with BIOS mod you can use secure boot.
  10. Actually nothing I have tried so far has made it stable under a stress test at 6000 or higher. VSOC up to 1.2v, VDDIO/VDD/VDDQ up to 1.3v, UCLK+FCLK at 1500, multiple memory kits (both 2x16GB Hynix A-die). FCLK is stable at 2000 with VSOC at 1.1v. If I drop to 5800 stress tests are stable. Too bad its BGA or I would be hunting down a replacement chip. Unless I am missing an important voltage that is not being configured correctly automatically by the bios. Its really odd that I can boot at 7600 but 6000 is not stable. I do not think LM helps performance unless it had a bad PTM paste job, because the CPU is limited to 145W solo or up to 85W in combined loads. Fan noise could be improved though for sure. Regarding the screen swap I found a complete used display assembly from a Vector A18 with the 240hz QHD 1600p IPS panel which is perfect. Even better it has no lid logo RGB so that is one thing that will no longer be reset to a rainbow effect depending on how Steelseries software is feeling that day. The whole unit used was only $185 including tax so not a bad deal at all and very easy to swap the UHD assembly back if the laptop needs to go in for a warranty repair.
  11. Yeah my Astral wasn’t even that great of a deal either lol. At the time they were brand new for $4,329.99 + tax and they had a single open box for like $3,779 or $3,889 + tax in the Best Buy store, I’m forgetting exactly how much it was. The box was kind of ripped a little, coil whine is not as quiet as my 5090 FE was (That one had a tiny bit, but you had to like put your ear against it to hear it, 1.2KW per limit certainly amplified it just a little bit) But the quietest GPU I ever owned was probably the 5080 Astral OC, it did not make any sound under load, even with your ear right against it lol. The 5090 Astral isn’t bad at all though but it makes a deep buzz if you lean in and try to listen to it. You won’t hear it in a closed case or anything though. Not a squeal or anything annoying at all which Is perfectly fine for me. I think most high end GPU’s will make a buzz under heavy load if you lean in close and listen to them. Too many check boxes these days to be super picky on GPU’s. Max Voltage, core overclocking ability, are 1% lows impacted with +3,000 memory OC, coil whine?, are the core and memory chips actually soldered on the board? lol, does it even work? lol. 😂 Unless something is making a high pitch squeal noise, I don’t care! Two prior products come to mind where I did care!!!. My Z590 Dark Kingpin motherboard, and EVGA power supplies lol. But yeah the Astral overclocks really well, and that’s what made me love it and decide to keep it. Excellent GPU. I’d probably long return my 9950X3D2 and Dark Hero X870 before that 5090 Astral goes anywhere!! Speaking of which that return period is coming up FAST on the AMD chip!! I may swap it out.
  12. Yesterday
  13. Yes, it is a faster CPU in anyway. Yes, exactly! I think that is a good idea and looking forward the results if you share it. If you thinking replacing the P775, P870TM could be an option, it has I think the best CPU cooling solution, especially with the second fan mod. Also it is bigger and heavier, the last true DTR which was the best.
  14. In Passmark, the average single thread performance is higher on the 11900k than the 9900k. 9900k 2800-2900 vs 11900K 3400-3500 In gaming not so much difference other than the high wattage on the 11th gen CPU for 5/6FPS gain... While being on the same 14nm node... For the heatsink mod. I'll just do one straight heatpipe connected between the CPU and GPU for a shared cooling design. Without adding a 0.5mm copper plate since I'll remove 3 of the tiny heatsinks on the CPU heatsink. If the first heatpipe is enough, I won't add a second one.
  15. 9900KS You can try I tried it out, I had an x170km with 11900k and rtx3080 for a few month. It is almost twice as loud, you had two carry two bricks with you and the improvement especially at 2k and higher the difference is not that much for the investment in my opinion. 11th gen was not best generation which intel developed 10900k was better in multi. 8c vs 10c I think P775TM is very good DTR but have to make some compromise with it.
  16. So at 4.7GHz and 4.8GHz all core, which CPU does the best (in terms of temperature) at the same clock speed? I'm interested to get the binned 9900K which is the 9900KS. Or should I just ditch this laptop and get the X170KM with 11700K?
  17. Short answer is no. With the factory air cooling system you can not achive these numbers. Maybe someone can contradict me but I cannot imagine it could be done.
  18. So for example The 9900K/9900KF => 4.9GHz all core thermal throttle The 9900KS => 4.9Ghz all core no thermal throttle? Can the laptop handle 5.0GHz all core without any thermal throttle?
  19. It should be the best,yes. However the factory datasheet says 127W TDP which means it can do the base freq which is 4.0 GHz. It is not likely it will do all core 5GHz on 140w, it do around 200w. It is still just a very good 9900k. UV depends on luck and bin. Around 100 is normal 130 is very good. Yes, I read it, it is was a very good research and work congrats!
  20. Is the 9900KS running at 5GHz all core at 140W? Is it better than the 9900K/9900KF since it's highly binned? Meaning we could do -130mV undervolts? I made my backlight mod v2 (with brightness control) work on this P775TM laptop and I got the custom heatsink from Cicichen. Can get 54k graphics points in Fire Strike.
  21. I am making a little more progress. This dual v-cache CPU doesn't like being rag-dolled like my other CPUs. It is more sensitive. That's not a good thing, but it is good I am starting to better understand what it can tolerate, and when I treat it kinder and gentler it performs better.
  22. I see. I hope I could help you in some way, and congrats on 4090 it could be a beast! 9900ks would be very nice with it!;)
  23. Yes the CPU speed does give extra fps in heaven benchmark. Tested with multiple CPU configurations and overclocking helps a lot. I get max 160W on the CPU when I use ThrottleStop and TimeSpy bench I used thermal glue 2w/mk, the best one that sticks very well. Some videos on YouTube, people used that thermal glue on the edges + used some thermal paste in the middle of the heatpipe and it was effective for them. I wanted to use a copper plate to elevate the heatpipes since there are some tiny heatsinks on the right of the heatsink
  24. I do not think that it could go all core 4.9 since it would be about 220w+. If you run hwinfo64 you can monitor the mhz. I am pretty sure all of the heavan benchmark for gpu test only. If you monitor during test is it also benching/using cpu? Do not use copper plate, heat pipes are much more effective transfering heat. Also glueing is not the best solution you should solder it.
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