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Mmyee soo.. quick update: 1. I ran mats/mods and umm I got this: - i had to create a usb stick with mats/mods (lots of tutorials online) - plugged it into the laptop and changed the boot order so it would boot off of the usb stick ... but it didnt work - changed uefi boot to disabled and it did eventually seem to boot off of the stick (I say eventually because I had absolutely no image throughout this entire process... I just waited for the laptop to turn off) - here is the report: report-1080.txt I ran version 400, not sure if its right or not or whatever... no idea... despite the insane number of write errors (not sure if I ran mats/mods wrong or what) ... chip C1 seems weird... idk 2. I tested the gpu with a multimeter and all voltages seem to be fine: - Vcore: 0.7 - Vmem: 1.35 - other stuff: seems to be ok? not sure, i tested all of the inductors, i can add all of them if maybe that sounds like it could be a problem 3. Put everything back together... aaand... there is no fricking image anymore :(((( just the backlight turns on .... and also my laptop now BEEPS... not sure if post is different when you disable uefi or what ... I tried removing the cmos.. waiting... then plugging it back in in hopes that the bios would reset ... but there is no way to know for sure because the monitor is BLANK... (i tried holding down the fn + d keys but that trick never really worked for me... screw you and your weird key combinations Clevo)... The laptop gasps for life when it turns on: - turn on, run for like 5 seconds ... turn off - turn back on, fans whoosh once (not sure if it has anything to do with the modded dsanke bios im using, ive seen this happen before) and then it runs with no problem, screen backlight turns on, no image!!! Holding down keys in this state comes with a faint ... beep? i would call it idk, a muffled sort of beep or tap... not sure why ... not even sure if im booting into windows, not sure whats happening behind the scenes... And also there is sometimes a weird ... gurgle or idk bzzz sound that happens only once (it's probably the gpu screaming for help) Because I am incredibly smart and definetly not a dumbass I tried this trick: press windows key + write down spotify + enter + space key... hoping something would happend (would confirm im inside windows) ... but spotify acts weird sometimes, especially when you come out of a shutdown and not sleep :))) Of course it did not work, my life could not be THAT easy. I have not tested an external monitor ... I will, hopefully tomorrow or at some point, but I am closer to acceptance than ever, maybe I'll throw the entire laptop out the window at this point :)) If yall recognise any of this behavior or have any (and I mean any, I'm desperate) kind of suggestions, please let me know 🙂 Thanks!

Do I smell smoke?

Anyone know how i can get a prema bios for my p870tm

Hopefully 1,105 watts GPU power holds up then. 😆

@win32asmguy Look at Dream Machine's X3D 5090: Raider 9950X3D 5090:

The real reason Intel headed into graphics cards... They wanted their share from the AI market. Jul 01, 13:42 Intel confirms Arc Battlemage GPUs will expand into Edge/AI market in Q4

Thanks. That looks very promising. I asked if his was an Alphacool. Would be interesting if Bykski is offering them for a lower price.

Assuming they don't reject it because they can detect any PCB damage/changes....but yeah @Mr. Fox block temps look promising for 9070xt! Hotspot and Hynix down to 50c and 60c respectively!

Hello once again, After much deliberation I have installed an M4000m, originally out of a HP Zbook, in my 18r1. Nvcleaninstall got drivers working and the GPU was detected in the bios. But the GPU clock is stuck at 405mhz and the reported power draw caps out at 30w. Could this be rectified by using a dell m4000m bios? Thanks in advance.

OK, I had forgotten that in order for your dGPU information to show on that BIOS information page, you need to have graphics switching turned off so that it is the "default" GPU driving the display. ...That would be a little "dangerous" to do on your P5000 if it is "not working" (...the BIOS might actually take the option to disable graphics switching away if it does not detect a compatible dGPU anyway). If you do end up in a situation where graphics switching is disabled and you can't "see" anything due to a non-functional dGPU, you can reset the BIOS settings by unplugging the coin cell battery for a few moments. The default config has graphics switching enabled. Anyway. Tangentially related but I spotted this note this morning. NVIDIA is dropping support for both Maxwell and Pascal at the same time. (A surprise to me since they normally just drop one generation at a time, but... on the flip side, Maxwell has already been supported for an abnormally long time.) The 580 driver series will be the last to support either. So even if you get the P5000 to work, you'll end up in a similar situation with regard to driver support before too long. https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/unix-graphics-feature-deprecation-schedule/60588/13 (Sorry, I don't have any additional ideas on how to kick the GPU into working.)

Soo pretty

The piss poor management and Nadella's "leadership" is ruining everything. He admitted that cancelling windows mobile was a colossal blunder, now, his Ai / Copilot everything is a flop, adding ads into everything is pissing off loyal users, he is almost like Jim Balsille from blackberry. Jim hyperfocused on getting an NHL team for waterloo and let BB die in the trenches while doing it. Nadella hyperfixates on one thing. When he was put in the position he was hyperfixated on "the cloud" let every other aspect of microsoft suffer. Then he canned mobile, made windows worse on touchscreens to purchase F*&KING business facebook, Now he's hyperfixated on Co-Pilot and everything else suffers. SMDH.

Thank you for the response. I was monitoring the temp the whole time also there is thermal control. There is no big difference between vertical and horizontal position.

in vertical you can fried your card )))

No i only use 2242 SSD. SN520 works, but under device manager>USB, a ! USB item will intermittently appear and disappear thru out the session, not affecting actual use. Earlier i thought it is because of other peripherals since i connect to the Dock 90% of the times. I have emptied the WWAN slot for 2 weeks since it is not performing to its max. SN520 can only run at 260MB/s. Other SSDs that can run at >1GB/s need to go thru a guaranteed blue screen crash everytime the laptop boots.

*** SOLD **** to @LiLCruz! Unfortunately @LiLCruz had to back out of the sale so I'll leave it listed casually here still for sale.

And since it's out now, here's my own picture of the P5000: So the seller did send me what the listing was for. Anything else to try before I accuse him of selling me a dud card? (I checked the white spot on the edge connector after I took the picture. It's not there now, so it's probably a reflection.)

I swapped back, with pictures of that BIOS page both ways. Neither card appears there: P5000: K5100: But the DVI outputs are back, with the original K5100, and nvflash sees it: aaron@aaron-M6800:~$ sudo ~/Downloads/0_Keep/NVFlash/nvflash_5.867_linux/x64/nvflash --list [sudo] password for aaron: NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.867.0) Copyright (C) 1993-2024, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. NVIDIA display adapters present in system: <0> Quadro K5100M (10DE,11B8,1028,15CD) S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00 aaron@aaron-M6800:~$ I'm not sure how it could not be inserted properly, with the slots and tabs around the connector itself and the screw holes both requiring it to be in the exact spot that works. So I'm a little curious about the K5100 not appearing in the BIOS either, but still (kinda) showing up in the OS proper. The OS doesn't want to *use* the K5100, but it does at least appear in nvflash above and in lspci, where the P5000 didn't at all. aaron@aaron-M6800:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 06) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor PCI Express x16 Controller (rev 06) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2 (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d4) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #3 (rev d4) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #4 (rev d4) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev d4) 00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #7 (rev d4) 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #8 (rev d4) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1 (rev 04) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation QM87 Express LPC Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104GLM [Quadro K5100M] (rev a1) 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1) 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb) 11:00.0 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. SD/MMC Card Reader Controller (rev 01) aaron@aaron-M6800:~$

The worst thing that would suck about a melted connector is the work and down time..Re-mount air cooler, mail in, then wait forever. 🫠

Hmm. Wire gauge become thincker the lower numbers. 12V-HPWR cables use 16 gauge. Exactly same gauge as older 8-pin cables from an quality PSU. But the pitch is different vs the good 8-pins connectors. Hence the old 8-pin connectors can run colder. Aka more space beween the pins. The damn 12+4 pin connector is alll too small and tiny. Should have been double the size. And with more space between the pins. This way they could use thicker pins with more spacing in between in the terminals and thicker wires as etc 14 gauge copper wires for the cable. 6x12V power pins is enough if you make the connector properly from the beginning. But now it's too late make a real major change for the tiny trash 😞 The term "pitch" typically refers to the distance between pins in a connector, like a 2.54mm pitch in a DuPont connector. The 12V-2x6 doesn't have a standard pin pitch. The pitch of the 12V-2x6 connector, also known as the 12VHPWR connector, refers to the distance between the center of one pin to the center of the next pin. Edit. From Jonny Guru... In reality, those 8-pin connectors can handle more current because you have 4.2mm pitch terminals vs. 3.0 pitch and they're spread out more which helps dissipate heat. This is nice. When you feel you got an amazing deal paying MSRP🥴 RTX 5000 graphics cards get deep discounts at Newegg — RTX 5070, 5060 Ti, and 5060 all fall to low prices ahead of Prime Day

I never had any issues with melted 12Vhpwr, (Not that I know of) I’m curious if anyone on here melted a connector yet. Sometimes negativity is very good publicity. Der8auer and Gamernexus touched on this before in one of their videos about this connector. We’re definitely reaching in to a new realm of GPU power which is pretty damn extreme to be honest. I know that 8 pin PCIe connectors have melted in the past as well. But unfortunately we now have this 12vhpwr so fingers crossed 🤞 let’s hope 800w+ holds up @Mr. Fox You got to see this video @Mr. Fox (It’s a good laugh)😆

I never had any issues at all with power shutdowns or melted GPU connectors using 3x8 or 4x8 pin connectors and I've pulled as much or more power from them than almost anyone running 4090 or 5090 today. One 8-pin certainly would not have worked, but this wasn't a replacement for a single 8-pin connector. Most of the 12VHPWR cables use the same or even a smaller gauge wire and instead of 8 x 3 (24) or 8 x 4 (32) wires you're pushing all the current through 12 smaller wires. So to me that is chintzy. Excessive heat is a self-fulfilling prophecy and we should be surprised at the small miracle that there haven't been more melted connectors than there have been. But, it sure does look cute, with just one dainty little connector. I am still baffled that anyone could think such a connector being used to carry so much current was a bright idea. Downright stupid IMHO. People got their pockets lined off of this scam. I'm sure PSU sales hit new highs. Something new that nobody needed, but they thought they did. Or they were made to believe they did. Newer is always better newer. Sometimes (often) newer is garbage. 12VHPWR connector is garbage.

Now this what the Legion 9 should of been from the beginning!. 18 inch laptop monster with 4 RAM slots, and 4 SSD slots that's making use for its extra space.

Yeah another year that mid range and affordable GPUs sucks. On top of that the new RTX 5050 will use 8GBs of VRAM which makes sense for a entry level GPU in 2025 but not for mid range GPUs like the RTX 5060 and RTX 5070, They should at least have 12GBs of VRAM or even 10GBs of VRAM at the minimum. Sadly 5070ti laptops are over $2,000 now but should drop under that later in the year hopefully. I blame NVIDIA for obvious reasons but i also blame today's game studios that are releasing games that are so badly optimized that they're so VRAM hungry, having bad performance that requires either DLSS, FSR, Xess, and FrameGen turned on to get good performance.

I see, thanks! I will look into it! 🙂