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  1. Today
  2. SuperMG
    I sadly couldn't find any more information maybe I didn't do a very deep search. Only info I got was from Kela and we chatted in DMs. I wanted to purchase but the first revision is in pure iGFX so nope. No mux, no PEG. It only has one NVMe slot lol They also have different heatsinks for different MXM. X-VSION cards are good but I didn't rely on them for the backlight mod. They didn't care back. Embedded use
  3. ssj92
    I already tried multiple MXM cards years ago in my X170SM, I didn't just make up the story that it's not wired in the mxm port. Don't rely on X-VSION to do anything. Have you purchased their latest laptops? If so how are they?
  4. SuperMG
    Words are word, need certitude. Future people won't know about this, till now, I couldn't find information online. Don't want someone to spend thousands on that system. At least I tested on both SM and KM models. Even in iGPU it doesn't work (KM). E1 - E4 power pads don't provide all the needed power and I can't solder (risky to damage both motherboard and card) Kela and me tested with bunch of different GPUs so we are 100% certain that regular cards don't work. A guy in ebay chat tried to lie to me about KM being "more compatible" so I had to test for good and for once. Even the GTX Clevo cards don't work well in KM... They remade the Clevo X7200 in terms of compatibility which sucks. I had an idea which is to make a cable that translates to a flex cable and slide them to E1 to E4 pads. We need 19.5V-20V 10A for the MXM. But that's also risky, the flexcable could burn... X-VSION allowed me to send an email to their PO about the "new revision". I hope X-VSION fix their laptops with pure PEG compatibility or with advanced optimus (and also add better VRMs for their motherboard).
  5. ssj92
    Hiya fellas. Good to see everyone around here. Thought I'd drop this here as I had a little time to play with my desktop. BTW am I the only one who doesn't like the new Cinebench 2026? I feel like R23 was better. I like seeing all the threads populate the image. W7-3465X 3.2Ghz all core stock > 4.3Ghz all core (28-cores). Single thread should be around 5-5.2ghz somewhere (I didn't check to see if it was actually sticking). I have a VM open and some other stuff but doubt it'd drastically change the score. Also got a Z890+270K Plus to play with next week. Still no 5000 series gpu though lol
  6. tps3443
    Here is mine all stock no tuning to the cores or anything like that, PBO is auto so I am not sure if thats enabled or not. These Gskills 6800's are fantastic rams. Running 6400c28 with 1.45vdd and 1.40vddq. They destroy my last Corsair rams!
  7. ssj92
    I told you this before you even wanted to buy a x170 clevo. The pins on the mxm port are not wired for power. You need to use a gpu that uses clevo's power connector. if you want to use a standard mxm card on the x170 you need to solder all the power pins from the clevo power connector area.
  8. electrosoft
    Lunacy pricing.... 5060ti costs more than the 9070xt in the US atm retail pricing....just how much Nvidia doesn't care as consumers swirl the "edge computing" toilet bowl atm.... 62% faster at 1440p. 71% faster at 4k, costs less yet you know people will keep scarfing up the Nvidia brand. PC Partpicker: Cheapest 9070xt = $739.99 (~23% over MSRP $599.99 launch price) Cheapest 5060ti 16gb = $749.99 (~75%+ over MSRP $429.99 launch price) ------------------------------------------------------- Hmmmm..... Well 6400 vs 8000 you're not going to see much difference on average so you're right there. I talked about that over a year or so ago but 8000 is a cake and eat it too frequency to run. I kept going back and forth testing 6400 1:1 c30 and 8000 1:2 c36 and my final conclusion (YMMV of course) was that at worse, 6400 = 8000 and at best it beats on a varying scale so if your system supports it, especially running dual CCD which I don't even run on desktop, I am hard pressed to finalize around 6400. I would settle in and test at 8000 across the board and see which chip is fully stable at 8000c34 and weigh that equally, if not higher than 1:1 testing at this point, but again, that's just me. That is also one reason I've been jumping through so many hoops lately testing memory cooling the last 5-6 months because of the 270k adventures and finally adopting 8000+ on AM5. All setups going forward, after having stuck to 1:1 for over a year, will be 8000+ and those temps are getting juicy. On the other hand, if you're fully locked into wanting to run 2167/6400 tuned to the gills, CPU#2 would be the direction I would go too because it just seems made for 1:1. I'm hoping you get to eat your cake and eat it too and #2 also turns out to be the best at 8000. But man that not hitting 2200 is a (mild) kick in the teeth. The real suck out scenario is if CPU #2 is a beast at 1:1 and CPU #1 is a beast at 1:2. In that scenario, I'm picking #1 all day everyday. As for overclocking, I was pulling teeth and went with per CCD not per core like @Mr. Fox because it was quicker and you know if your weakest core is rock solid, the rest of them are too even with ambient changes. Last time I did per core was my 5800x and that took forever and even then I would sometimes get little instability and crashes. I was content with per CCD but of course you're not extracting the most performance possible so there's a trade off. Yeah, I don't know if I could let the 2200 chip go......
  9. Mr. Fox
    If you want to see the difference 2200 FCLK makes, run Y-Cruncher 2.5B and look at the speed improvement compared to 2167.
  10. Mr. Fox
    Hybrid OC (or Dynamic Overclock Switcher aka as "DOS" in ASUS terminology). Basically tune your PBO to the best stable undervolt that gives the highest low core use clock speed for gaming (which is the only thing PBO is actually good for) and them set your per CCD manual overclock and VCore/VID and power switch threshold. If you followed the videos I shared with you previously to tune your PBO then the tedious part is over and the core overclocking is much easier. You will want to set LLC Level 6 or 7. LLC does not apply to PBO, only the manual OC. For the manual overclock switch I have all cores set at 54x for each CCD and 1.275V VCore and VID voltage. I have the switch threshold set for 120A, so it runs PBO clocks until the CPU pulls 120A, then switches to the manual OC. Using the video I shared with you for PBO per-core tuning, this is where I ended up with my per core PBO negative offset (which may not work well for your dual 3D cache CPU, but you can certainly test and see). I do not use Curve Shaper, only Curve Optimizer. Curve Shaper doesn't really do anything for me other than contribute to freezing while watching YouTube videos and web browsing and tuning Curve Optimizer properly is already a pain in the a$$ without complicating matters with Curve Shaper. For illustration, here are the settings I used with the 9950X in the X870E Apex for the hybrid/DOS daily driver settings. I later increased the switch threshold to 120A instead of using the ASUS recommended value (89A) in the "Prediction" window. In case you missed the post with the PBO tuning video, it is posted here. Do the PER CORE tuning (versus per CCD) to maximize your results. Otherwise, per CCD will limit your maximum stable negative offset to your WORST core on each CCD. When you tune the Curve Optimizer offset for the maxium negative offset each core can run stable, all of your cores will boost higher, the CPU will run cooler and be more stable. It's a pain in the butt, but worth the effort if you want the best overall result. Your best cores (that use less voltage) will likely handle less undervolt (negative CO offset) simply because they are already using less voltage by default. If you set all the same on one CCD your best cores will under-perform due to voltage starvation, or your system will be unstable (random lockups in light loads like web browsing and watching YouTube videos).
  11. Mr. Fox
    Unless the core overclocking is worse on the one that runs 2200 FCLK, I would keep that one and send back the one limited to 2167 FCLK. If memory serves me correctly, they are the same SP rating and have a similar V/F curve. The one that cannot run 2200 FCLK would end upl being your weakest link in the system and memory overclocking is the least important performance factor with Ryzen, and even less important with an X3D CPU. Being limited to 2167 tells you on face value that it has a weaker fabric interconnect and is the inferior sample of the two.
  12. tps3443
    That’s pretty amazing temps for an SFF! Can you tell me what sort of settings you run here on this SFF PC? Do you run a manual OC with this?
  13. Mr. Fox
    I just tested some of the Vallhalla PC Bifrost Alloy thermal paste (company owned by drajav at overclock.net) and it is a good thermal paste. I tested using the SFF living room build that has a 360 AIO. https://www.valhallapc.com/products/bifrost-alloy-thermal-paste
  14. SuperMG
    You need to use them. It was obvious you'll get a black screen.
  15. Tetsu
    Status report on the RTX 4090 (X-Vsion model) Boot test conducted on the P570WM: A Quadro P5000 was installed as the master and the RTX 4090 as the slave. Although the system booted, the card was not recognized in the BIOS or Device Manager. Boot test conducted on the P775TM1-G: The system booted, but the screen remained black. The modified heatsink and FPC cable required for use with the P570WM could not be used, as they are currently located at a warehouse on the mainland.
  16. tps3443
    CPU#2 might be the keeper for me. It’s only 2167fclk, but the memory controller easily stabilizes 6400c28 (Fully tuned timings) 1:1 with 1.480v vdd. I maybe can drop to even lower VDD voltage. I ran TM5 for several hours, ram temps were 51-52c and it still held up even with 65k tREFi. (I was using a fan on the memory) I’m going to test CPU#1 again, but I don’t think it’ll be able to do the same thing with 6400c28 1:1 so easily. Even though it has a 2200fclk. I will move to some 1:2 testing soon. It seems like either chip will post and run 8000c34, but I haven’t stability tested it. CPU#2 can run it easier. Which makes me lean towards it being the better choice. I haven’t tested any kind of core overlocking. I’m just not really any good at it, so I’ve stayed away from it lol. But I suppose it’s time to dig in. I’ve learned a lot about ram tuning on them though. Just not really sure what to do or start with on core clocks or CCD clocks and voltage etc, or load line etc. 6400 1:1 c28 performs STRONG. Just a little bit slower than 8000c34.
  17. Yesterday
  18. TheLeftybar
    How did you manage to get this to work? I tried getting the Dell BIOS extractor to work with no success, but it may have been me as I'm not familiar with Python. Could you please explain further how you got the 1.15.1 bios extracted & proceeded to combine the two? I already have a bin file of my laptop with BIOS v1.40.0 using my CH341 programmer.
  19. CowDontMeow
    The previous owner had the ram installed under the keyboard and it wouldn't go above 2133mhz with really loose timings, XMP would cause the non-boot with keyboard LED issue, swapped them to the slots under the bottom and it auto defaulted to 2933mhz with good timings. I doubt you'd notice a huge difference in speed so if it solves your issue just pop them under the keyboard and send it
  20. Glacier
    About the backlight mod specifically, though maybe there are multiple issues and I'm mixing them up. I'm specifically interested in the Radeon E8950, which is an embedded card. With switchable graphics off, it successfully outputs video to a Precision M6800's eDP screen, but doesn't activate the backlight. Ergo, I get a display, but I don't get a backlight to see it with. Do the newer RTX cards not even manage to display to the screen, or am I misinterpreting that and my backlight issue is identical to theirs? This is my first foray into anything MXM related so I'm still figuring out the landscape. My question in this situation was whether the cards don't activate the backlight because their BIOSes just aren't programmed to do so, or if it doesn't activate because the electrical connections don't exist so even if the BIOS wanted to activate the light, it couldn't. Which I think you just answered - it's a hardware issue because these are server cards that lack the backlight circuitry.
  21. SuperMG
    I don't understand Is it about the X170 power issue with MXM? or is it about the backlight mod? Backlight mod: the new RTX cards don't have the hardware to enable and control the brightness. They are embedded cards designed for non-laptop use. There are no wires, it's N/A. A new BIOS/VBIOS won't fix it because it's purely a hardware issue. I tested many MXM RTX cards and laptops. Without backlight mod: no display in the main eDP display. With: displays in the main eDP display. However these cards work in Switchable Graphics mode but you can lose upto 10-20% performance depending on your laptop. (Haswell generation has a bug too in SG, fluctuating the TDP from 40/55W to 100W. This doesn't happen in PEG)
  22. Glacier
    I've read through both threads, and I understand that the issue happens because these cards are not outputting voltage on the pins that the cable mod supplants, but is this because the cards are physically lacking the hardware to do so or because the BIOSes don't support operating the backlight and thus don't activate the pins? Ergo, flashing a different BIOS wouldn't solve this problem because the circuits to drive those pins is just not there?
  23. delboi
    I’m following this thread because I’m investigating similar WHEA-Logger Event ID 17 behaviour on a Pro Max 16 Plus. One question I have for people who have had Dell work on affected systems: were the removable PCIe devices ever physically isolated or substituted during troubleshooting? In particular: was the NVIDIA DGFF module ever replaced with a known-good module, rather than only changing drivers/settings or replacing the system board? was the Intel BE200 ever physically removed/replaced, rather than only disabled in Windows or BIOS? I’m asking because I’ve seen reports involving the same BE200 PCI ID (8086:272B) on some other recent systems, including Alienware and Acer machines, and I’m interested in whether anyone has compared those cases or performed a true hardware swap test. I’m not suggesting the BE200 is necessarily responsible. For context, Dell has already replaced the system board and NVMe SSD in my system and the behaviour remains. I also ran an Ubuntu Live comparison. Linux enabled PCIe AER and the BE200, NVMe and Intel graphics were present, but I did not observe the same Windows-style AER burst during that session. The NVIDIA GPU was detected but was not fully exercised under the Linux live environment, so I don’t regard that test as proving or excluding any particular component. I’d be interested to hear specifically from anyone who has had either the BE200 or DGFF GPU physically swapped or removed and whether that changed the WHEA behaviour or the intermittent stuttering.
  24. delboi
    delboi joined the community
  25. Daedalus
    Hi all, just found the below for our cable build saga. Someone on the thinkpad forums hit similar issue for lvds 1. ⁠eDP -> LVDS adapter:https://e.tb.cn/h.8kNp2CawbSlReTo?tk=FLq9TdpACbP 2. ⁠eDP 40pin ->30pin: https://e.tb.cn/h.8lZV7mu4BxoANYC?tk=AYKSTdKbVim and https://a.aliexpress.com/_EG5DDMQ upd. 3. wacom-emr-digitizer to usb adapter project: https://github.com/bulat-chu/WACOM-ThinkPad-X60T-Digitizer again it’s TaoBao but might be useful
  26. TitusAlone
    TitusAlone joined the community
  27. TheLeftybar
    Hey, can you please help me figure out how to flash the 1.15.1 bios onto my Dell Precision 7720? I'm dealing with the same problems you had with your laptop, its running hot & inefficient & I want my baby to last as long as possible. It has a Intel Xeon E3-1545M V5 & Quadro P4000, I'm hoping I could make it happen.
  28. Siplast
    Thanks to all of you, especially ssj92 for helping me to upgrade one of m18x r2s to the x-vision rtx 3080. The upgrade went quite easily as far as hardware but I will still need to tweak the bios and windows settings to get as much performance gain as possible. I will post 3d mark scores for others who might be interested In trying this upgrade as well.
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  30. Papusan
    Refine 2 With the second chair, Fractal Design raises the bar even higher. At the end of 2024, the Fractal Refine impressed in testing despite minor deductions in the overall score. The Refine 2 now aims to score across the board.
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