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  1. win32asmguy
    Its just an example of poor effort from marketing and project managers. These people want to make something that impresses reviewers/influencers, not necessary solve a problem. More battery life and less performance is also less risk as far as their warranty is concerned. No chip is even going to come close to premature failure if clocked low. I have also noticed that many systems throttle the CPU or GPU if the battery is fast charging, without any type of user preference override. Some also draw power from the battery even when on AC with heavy combined loads, which can quickly reduce battery life span if you are using the system within its supposedly designed limits.
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    Yeah I have been working on memory timings. Bricked it the other day changing memory context restore so has to spend time getting it restored instead of tuning.
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    I have seen plenty of systems that seem to run fine idling in an outdoor zone but have issues keeping framerates over 30fps during a raid or world boss. Unfortunately getting a character to a place to test those scenarios is much more time investment than a reviewer wants to spend on a single game. It also does not take into account addon performance issues either. The X3D chip does work very well for the WoW engine. Process Lasso is a great tool for managing process affinity and certainly more consistent than using the Game Bar.
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    This new AMD variant is available from Newegg now, with both a 4080 (2500usd) and 4090 (3000usd) config. The 7945HX3D chip scores about 32,500 in CBR23 with a clean W10 install. There are some CPU configuration options available in the advanced bios but the "AMD Overclocking" page isn't available. Speaking of W10, this model has a Qualcomm Wifi7 chip which does not have any W10 drivers, so swapping the card is needed. Upon initial bootup this model had the keyboard and RGB a solid red - but after updating to the latest bios its a rainbow puke effect just like the Intel variant. These should really have a override boot effect option in the Steelseries software.
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    The EC can communicate with both the CPU and GPU directly to manipulate power limits and clocks along with other things. Unfortunately the thresholds for these manipulations are not usually discussed or listed by OEMs. At least with Clevo we can still get schematics with design limits listed and an open source BIOS and EC to manipulate things. The cooling capability is behind other competitors now and I have not seen much movement from aftermarket heatsink vendors on Taobao other than potentially improved fans.
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    I think its entirely possible they could be effected especially if the system can sustain high TDP on the CPU and has recorded high voltages during such use. Luckily most people with these kinds of systems have a three year warranty or longer to cover any issues like this. Its a shame they are like this because even if you were to wear out a USB port from daily use you may very well need a motherboard replacement with a different CPU or GPU. Here is an article XMG made about the issue concerning laptop chips as well. I feel like they are pretty transparent for a vendor compared to most: https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-update-intel-core-cpus-laptops-stability/
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    It was a refurbished model from Lenovo Outlet: https://www.lenovo.com/us/outletus/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16-gen-2-16-inch-intel/21fbx03500 It was not actively marketed as an option available as I think Lenovo (or Nvidia) wanted to steer purchasers to the Legion series. Same situation as the Precision 7680/7780. If you contact a sales rep they could probably setup a CTO quote with it. Pricing is likely around what they charge for the Ada4000 option.
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    Another one you might look into is a P16v Gen 1. It is similar to the P16 but has an AMD 7840HS chip which in theory should be more energy efficient / silent than an Intel HX chip especially if you select a model without a dGPU and are willing to repaste with PTM7950.
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    I have a P16 G2 configured with 13950HX and 4090 mobile. It is pretty quiet running in the default balanced mode under load where the fans max out at 45dB and more importantly have no high pitched whine to them or fan duty pulsing. It can also benefit from replacing the paste on the CPU and GPU with PTM7950. I will also note that with the P16 G2 if you want a heatsink with a CPU side vapor chamber you have to choose atleast an Ada3500 GPU.
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    Speaking of desktop flexibility what are your thoughts on 7800x3d vs 7950x, primarily for gaming with world of Warcraft. I also run encoding jobs on this machine so I would like to have the 16 core chip if it does not hurt gaming much. This is a choice you pretty much cannot easily change on any laptop these days.
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    Yeah I looked at a few 7900 options and this one stood out as it was essentially the same performance level as the 4090 mobile which I have used but just more consistent. I was also looking at the Asus 4080 Super with Noctua cooling but it seemed more expensive and harder to find. I was able to get my Cosair kit to work at 6000 30-39-39-79 based on what HWInfo64 says its XMP profile would have supported at 6000 speed. It seems stable as they only issue I had was initially turning on XMP at 6400 which I guess does not work with the AMD chips. The hard part about this will be detoxing myself from thinking I need a high end laptop for gaming. I will have to be content with mid-grade performance with reduced settings as the high end stuff is just too noisy and hot with they way they are building them these days. Not to mention things just being locked down left and right. I thought I could get around that with an open source bios but there are still things I simply cannot configure because Nvidia or Intel has an NDA on low level specification documents.
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    I am interested to hear the results! I recently got fed up with trying to get consistent gaming performance out of my newer laptop so ended up upgrading my desktop and transitioning to it for gaming for a while. Got these parts for it: 7800X3D using my old NH-D15S MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk Corsair 2x16GB DDR5-6400 CL32 (at 6000 CL32 for now) XFX 7900 GRE I kind of wondered if I would be better off with a 7800X3D or 7950X. I will want to run encoding jobs on this machine but it is probably not a big deal if they take longer if the 7800X3D is better suited for gaming. The 7800X3D definitely seems to be running cooler than the 12900KS in games while offering better FPS. I am happy to not be going with Intel and Nvidia with this build.
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    Yes it works with any Intel motherboard. Yes, usually the vendors do slightly customize their BIOS from Clevo. If you do switch to the XMG BIOS you might be able to get your kits working. You may also need to pick up the OEM Samsung memory that they qualified for that BIOS as well. 128GB is honestly finicky to get working in any system especially without being able to apply extra VCCSA or other tricks usually used on enthusiast desktop boards. You may even find that one CPU may run the memory more stable than another, just simple because it has a better binned memory controller.
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    You can use Intel FPTW to backup the BIOS. It needs to be the correct version corresponding to your Intel ME version. It can usually be obtained from the Win-Raid forums or bios packages provided by XMG (part of the ME update folders if I recall). I believe the EC can also be backed up via the same ITE command line tool that is used to update. There is a good writeup about backing up the BIOS here: https://brendangreenley.com/undervolting-2020-dell-laptops-like-the-vostro-7500-and-more-tips-to-improve-thermals-battery-life-and-speed/#cpu-undervolt
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    They started selling the camm to sodimm interposer on their website so you can at least get to 96 GB for a good price.
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    From what I can tell Superbuy will ship to the EU. This is the store listing in Taobao where they can be obtained so you have Superbuy pull up that URL and process a purchase. When I bought them first they received them in China, unpacked and took photos for approval. Then you have to pay the forward shipping fee from China to your address. The whole process took about three weeks from initial purchase. Be sure and watch the Superbuy site everyday because it seems like they need approvals / fees paid without sending email notifications. https://www.taobao.com/list/item/642056230536.htm
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    You could try GSkill F4-3200C18D-32GRS which is rated at CL18 without needing XMP. I was not able to get it stable in my X170SM with a 10900K but you may have more luck. Be sure to choose a kit that is dual rank and has decent tRFC.
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    After some testing I determined that I was wrong on my initial assumption. The subsystem ID has to be overridden here instead specifically for the dGPU: https://github.com/system76/coreboot/blob/f1caea884c49bebd657631bcbf8859ad9aac740b/src/drivers/system76/dgpu/ramstage.c#L36 Everywhere else it should remain 0x7714 except for the GPU and the GPU audio device. With that changed it allows the unmodded drivers without an issue.
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    Oh, if you want to test the System76 firmware on your X170SM I can help with attempting to get it setup!
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    I think I found the cookie in my coreboot variant of the X170SM that associates it with the device whitelist in the Nvidia installer: https://github.com/system76/coreboot/blob/6e1a07ca56bf6cfb3b0969971a886a59bb18a3e2/src/mainboard/system76/bonw14/devicetree.cb#L58 In theory changing that to the X170KM identifier should allow stock drivers to install. I have not tested that but will soon. Just to catch up on the other feature support of the 3080 with this bios here is where it is at: Suspend / Resume works but takes 30 seconds to resume (may be the same case with the 2080 super as I think their ACPI resume routines wait longer in each stage of powering the GPU back on to ensure the process succeeds) No support for Nvidia PCF / Dynamic Boost as it did not exist until much later when they added support for 3080 mobile model refreshes but it may be possible to backport it No support for GSync as I believe it was not supported on the 2080 super on this bios. Either they did not have time to add the feature or did not get necessary information from Nvidia to add it (more likely) Video Output support - I have only tested the TB3 port on the back side to confirm it works. I did not test mDP or HDMI. I do know that the X170KM has a different port layout (TB4 is dual port on side) so the VBIOS for the 3080 may be configured differently than the 2080 Super. There is an ACPI table defining the port/pipe configuration for the Nvidia GPU but it seems to use a propritary format so we would need to dump ACPI from an X170KM to compare.
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    Sadly the community doesn't put much emphasis on the other part of the problem, poor quality locked down firmware. I want to explore that more and I have a newer system that despite being BGA, has an open source BIOS and EC which I can freely modify. It really makes a system be very close to how many would run a desktop - without proprietary control software. It isn't exactly a very cost effective system as I believe Clevo charges over $500 more to get an equivalent motherboard without Intel Boot Guard, which requires a signed bios using their keys in order to boot up. There is also the cost of porting Coreboot to new hardware which is a very hard sell to anyone who expects open source firmware to cost the same as proprietary firmware.
  22. win32asmguy
    Right. And the price is too low as well. The real ones are 350 yuan each because they harvested the fans from Alienware 51m r2 and adapted them to the x170 housing with the proper header.
  23. win32asmguy
    The taobao fans from thermalsabre are different. Where did you order yours? I used superbuy as my agent and then sent photos of the fans before forwarding them to the USA.
  24. win32asmguy
    You have to remove the screen lid to get to that plastic cover. Then break a chunk out of it so you can easily clip to the chip in the future:
  25. win32asmguy
    The Titan 18 also has a full magnesium alloy palm rest (not a metal backplate like the Raider 18) which to me is more notable as it gets the build quality closer to a mobile workstation. What really hurts the Titan and Raider is that they should offer four models of each, 4080+QHD, 4080+UHD, 4090+QHD, 4090+UHD. That way anyone can purchase whatever screen and GPU they want depending on the use. All of those should come with 32GB of memory and 2TB of storage, let resellers do value added upgrades beyond that. I would have had the vapor chamber come with all Raider 18 / Titan 18 with 4080 and 4090. I like the design of the Raider 18. It is better than the Asus Strix 18 for sure. It does not have coil whine issues either. I do believe the front RGB light bar can be safely unplugged but would need to test. The lid logo RGB is integrated into the LCD cable so it cannot be disabled the same way.
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