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    Hi, for the RTX A5500, have you tried different drivers? Have you also tried different IDs from the NvCleanInstall list? I noticed that sometimes selecting a different ID from the list could fix power throttling or performance drop issues. I had a similar problem on a GT60 with a Quadro RTX 3000. The GPU was experiencing power reduction, and I managed to fix it by choosing a different Quadro RTX 3000 hardware ID from the list. It might be worth a try. Also, make sure you're using the Quadro driver rather than a modified Game Ready driver.
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    Well, I’ve started diving into a small project to completely refurbish a GT60 that I repaired some time ago and that was honestly in terrible condition. It’s an Ivy Bridge 16F3 model, currently equipped with an i7-3920XM / 32 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 at 1866 MHz / GTX 1060 6 GB / 2x500 GB mSATA SSDs plus an additional 500 GB SATA SSD. I’m planning to try either a Quadro A4000 or A3000 in it depending on my budget. The first issue will obviously be the use of a custom heatsink. I asked Chichen to join the project and he’s really into it, so he’s currently studying a possible solution. While we’re at it, we’re also going to improve the cooling system for the i7-3920XM to try and achieve a decent overclock on it. I also ordered a higher-quality TN panel to replace the stock LG display, which had a few dark spots. I chose a B156HW01 V7, which is one of the best 40-pin LVDS panels available. I don’t know if better options exist, or even whether LVDS/eDP converters would properly work to get an IPS panel, so I’d rather stick with a plug-and-play solution. The laptop will use a 240W power supply and is also running a custom unlocked BIOS and custom EC firmware by Svet from MSI. So now we’ll see whether a Quadro A4000 can perform better than RTX 4060 or 4070 mods. I just need to find the money to fund one by selling a few things first!
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    On the GT60, the MXM slot is located at the edge of the chassis, preventing larger cards from fitting. The depth is also a tight fit, down to the millimeter, because of the entire mSATA card assembly. It's not a matter of the GPU's orientation; it's simply a matter of the MXM connector's placement, with a reserved space that's precisely sized for the MXM B 3.0 standard. If the card is too wide, it will be blocked by the chassis; if it's too deep, it won't fit because of the mSATA RAID card.
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    Sliderfra told me that HP cards don’t fit in the GT60. Apparently, HP Quadro RTX 3000 cards simply cannot fit inside.
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    It seems that HP cards can cause issues on the GT60. They’re slightly wider and apparently don’t fit properly in the chassis. That’s what I’ve been told, but I’ve never checked it myself.
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    Anyway, if the Quadro RTX 3000 works on the GT60, then logically the Quadro RTX 4000 should work as well. And I think the whole Turing family should work fine too, since in the end it’s a generation that’s fairly close to Pascal. But the problem is actually finding these Turing Quadro RTX cards — it’s almost impossible. The 3000 is already very hard to find, but a 4000 or 5000 feels like an impossible mission, I think. As for the 4060/4070, yes, the stock heatsink is enough with a few modifications so the VRMs fit properly. I did it on the GT60 Haswell I used to have. No issues either getting the card recognized with the drivers. The only remaining issues were the EC Panic Mode and the video outputs that needed fixing. But I couldn’t test any further because I quickly switched over to the Precision 7720 that I found brand new for 300 euros...
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    Hi, do you know what the difference is in terms of mounting holes and GPU position between the A4000 and an RTX 4070, for example?
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    Bon! Did Chichen make the heatsink? Can't wait to see how these cards perform!
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    Specifically for the GT60s, aside from the extremely rare models with 3K or 4K IPS screens, you have no choice but to use Optimus because all the other versions are LVDS. That said, the Quadro RTX 3000 works very well with Optimus, for example. I think a Quadro RTX 5000 could do the same with a mod to the heatsink. The RTX 4060 was properly routed with Optimus, and gaming performance was very good — the gain compared to the Quadro RTX 3000 was huge despite the CPU bottleneck. Honestly, if we could just fix this video output issue, and apparently the EC could be manually modified for the fans, then we might not be far from also getting these cards to work properly on older MSI GT60/70 models. I think on the GT72 and later models, it should work with the eDP mod though.
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    In that case, I don’t really understand what’s preventing at least the video outputs from working. Maybe it has something to do with the routing through Optimus. The only GT60 with eDP is the one with the 3K or 4K IPS display, the 16F4 version 3.0 motherboard model. Maybe on that one, with the eDP backlight mod, everything would work properly.
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    When I mentioned the fans, it’s actually an EC firmware issue that likely doesn’t properly detect the 4060, probably due to an incorrect temperature sensor report over SMBus. But to me, the biggest issue still remains external display support...
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    After selling my GT60 Haswell 16F4 V 1.1, I’m still going to get back into a few experiments with a 16F3 that I managed to repair. For now, it’s running an i7-3920XM / 32GB HyperX 1866 MHz / GTX 1060. I’d like to manage to install something in it that performs better than a Quadro RTX 3000 maybe a Quadro RTX 5000? But these cards seem impossible to find now, or out of stock... I might consider an RTX 3060, but I assume that hasn’t been tested yet. The 4060 could work in the GT60 16F4, with the known fan issues and no external display output. Maybe the Ampere models could work better...
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    Do you think it might work better than the regular 4060? Although, admittedly, there might not be the temperature sensor issue with that one.
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    I already have the cable for the backlighting. I have the 4060, which will be perfect in the Precision 7720. I had tested the 4060 in an MSI GT60 before, but unfortunately, even though the card worked very well, the EC (Electromagnetic Computing) would go into panic mode with the fans running at full speed, and there was also a problem with the DisplayPort and HDMI outputs, which was a deal-breaker for me. So I wanted to see if a solution like the A3000 would work better on those models, or failing that, a 3060 or 3070. If it works on the 17 R4, maybe it would work on the MSI too.
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    And your 3080 isn't too bottlenecked by the processor? I still have a GT60 running Ivy Bridge that I just repaired. I might consider a Quadro A3000, for example, or even an A4000, we'll see... I also still have a Precision 7720 where I need to put a 4060, but I need to check something about the backlight mod.
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    Because of the 10-15% performance drop? I'm asking to know if the card is still viable even if it doesn't necessarily perform at 100%. I ran Optimus for a long time with a Quadro RTX 3000 and a GT60, and frankly, it worked very well!
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    Do these cards work in Optimus mode?
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    Hi, I bought one of your cables a few weeks ago, but I'm not sure I've correctly located the backlight pins on my 4060 for the Precision 7720. It looks like my pins aren't arranged exactly like the diagram, even though it's an X-Vsion 4060. I'm actually waiting for a modified heatsink from Cicichen to install the card. If you could give me a hand and tell me the pins in the attached photo, that would be great! Thanks!
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    In that case, why not try a card bought from Aetina? You can ask them for a quote for what you want. Otherwise, I think the Quadro RTX A4000/A4500/A5000/A5500 are really interesting price-wise, with PayPal buyer protection. It's worth a try at X-Vsion. I think it might even perform better than a 4060; it seems to be a better match in terms of outputs, etc.
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    Were you able to test it with graphics cards causing this fan issue? I couldn’t try your workaround since my GT60 was already sold and packed up. Still, I’d really like to get to the bottom of this story and see whether a solution is actually possible! Also worth noting: Xvision can take the card back if it doesn’t work out, but you have to pay the shipping costs.
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    Bonjour à tous, Après avoir vendu à contrecœur mon MSI GT60, je suis passé à un Dell Precision 7720 pour continuer à expérimenter avec ma RTX 4060. J'attends toujours un dissipateur thermique modifié de chez Cicichen pour un montage propre et soigné, d'où ma patience. L'ordinateur portable est actuellement démonté en attendant. J'ai quelques questions concernant le câble MXM pour le rétroéclairage. Je pense que ma Xvision 4060 est légèrement différente des photos au niveau des broches, et je ne veux surtout pas faire d'erreur. Quelqu'un pourrait-il me dire quelles broches mentionnées dans le guide PDF correspondent à celles visibles sur ma photo ? Faut-il effectuer d'autres modifications du BIOS avant d'installer la carte ? Un BIOS modifié, par exemple ? Ou est-il possible d'utiliser le BIOS d'origine ? Another question: What is the best monitor we can put on this PC? Merci à tous !
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    It's a PNY Quadro RTX 3000. Yes DisplayPort output is working normally.
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    Hi, sorry for my late reply — I’ve been quite busy with other things lately, especially some work on my house. I have to admit I haven’t pushed the research on the GT60 any further; it did seem quite complicated to fix the issue. In the meantime, I’ve acquired a Precision 7720 in like-new condition, on which I’ll probably install the 4060 when I have the time. I tried modifying the 4060’s VBIOS to make it more compatible with the MSI, but that was unsuccessful. I do think that an incorrect pinout could be the reason why the card isn’t fully recognized or is considered faulty by the BIOS. That said, the card itself works very well on the GT60 if you ignore the EC issue. You can still use it, but with the fans running at full speed and without the ability to connect an external display. As far as I’m concerned, there shouldn’t be any real limitation otherwise. I have a Quadro RTX 3000 that works perfectly on it, so I don’t understand why, in theory, we couldn’t achieve a similar result with a 4060.
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    Bonjour à tous, en parcourant ce forum, j'ai décidé de tenter quelques améliorations peu conventionnelles sur mon vieux MSI GT60. Auparavant, il était équipé d'un i7 4940MX, d'une Quadro RTX 3000 et de 32 Go de RAM. Toujours aussi passionné par cette machine, j'ai opté pour une ultime mise à niveau. J'ai commandé une 4060 chez X-Vision. Le premier défi a été de modifier mon dissipateur thermique, initialement conçu pour une carte MXM B, afin de l'adapter à la carte MXM A. Ce n'est pas parfait, mais les températures restent inférieures à 80 °C en pleine charge, ce qui me semble acceptable. L'installation de la carte s'est déroulée avec succès et les performances en jeu se sont nettement améliorées par rapport à la RTX 3000. Cependant, un problème majeur persiste : le ventilateur tourne constamment à plein régime, probablement en raison d'une incompatibilité avec le firmware de mon EC, qui détecte peut-être la nouvelle carte comme défectueuse. De plus, aucun signal vidéo n'est émis via HDMI ou DisplayPort. Je cherche des conseils sur les solutions possibles à ces problèmes de compatibilité. Mis à part ces problèmes, la carte fonctionne bien en jeu. J'ai également contacté Svet du forum MSI, connu pour le développement de BIOS personnalisés pour les modèles GT60. Pour information, j'utilise un BIOS déverrouillé avec le dernier firmware EC. Vos suggestions sont les bienvenues. Merci.
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