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Do you know what the panel number is for the 17.3" 4k Mini LED panel is?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314652978772 I have this saved because it seema like a real good deal, but it might work for what you want

Nice! Now I want to try that too... one less reason for the X170

Curious again but: - how does it work better/faster with 128? I have not tried 128 yet, but is P870 limited in speed more than X170? - how quiet it runs depends on tuning of the cpu and I would agrue that P870 has more stable/extensive bios support to dial that in? - for the youtube video I also looked up a few but it seems to depend, because in a way you are right with a 4090 there seems to have a reliable gap forming, but with a mobile 3080 as our bottleneck, we won't have the gpu strength to even have that difference show Yes on the other aspects you mentioned 👍

Sorry if this has been talked about before. But - is the x170 actually better than the P870 at all? Screen: Both 17.3 panels that seem to support the same type of panels up to even 4k 144hz? CPU: 10 core (10900k) or higher IPC 8 core (11900k) vs older 8 core (9900k) The 9900k btw has been shown to undervolt pretty darn efficiently, even get it down to 65w while performing better than regular 9900 In any type of games the GPU will be enough of a bottleneck that the difference between the 10900k/11900k/9900k will be negligible, maybe IF you do something that would require the 10 core it might be worth it? GPU : Both max out at a 3080 16GB RAM: P870 seems to have better RAM and XTU / overclocking support for faster speeds Both can do 128GB? Storage: If I understand correctly neither has hardware RAID controller, both are software controlled, so it is a wash X170km can have 4 x m.2 drives but no 2.5 mSATA drives P870 can have 2 x m.2 and 2 x 2.5 mSATA drives - but with the extra GPU slot there have been cards that add another 4 x m.2 drives. Maybe the x170 can do faster drive speeds? But is it big enough of a difference? Seems like P870 has the ability to have more drives and a wider range of types Cooling: CPU: P870 seems to be able to keep 9900k usable with TM heatsink and can add second CPU fan Someone also did the vapor chamber mod to the heatsink - on NBR somewhere x170 is also limited by thermal ability, but with higher power requirements for 10900k and 11900k it seems more severe? GPU: P870 takes the cake with dual vapor chamber heatsink X170 does a good job too, but not sure it can match the P870 I think if both had the 3080 the P870 could take more before it becomes thermally throttled Overall: X170 is unified heatsink while P870 isn't Both can go on water with aftermarket cooling via aliexpress Both can de-lid, and both can do direct die - with varying results Both can use the same thermal paste/pad/liquid Other: wifi? could the NIC card from a x170 just plug into a P870? So it is a wash? chipset - only real gain is x170km with PCI-E 4.0 - with the only real benefit is the 4th m.2 nvme slot? x170 has better built in speakers x170 is marginally smaller dimensions than P870 x170 has the kind of annoying two PSU solution P870 has better 1080p webcam P870 has more bios / mods support (It has been around longer..) P870 seems to be more stable / reliable system x170km seems to have the ability to use iGPU from CPU for longer battery use At the end of the day . . . it really seems like a case by case use? With one outshining the other in certain aspects but not others, and considering lets say the 4 year gap between the P870TM (2017) and the X170KM (2021) it just seems a little underwhelming. Especially since within the last few years with the regular BGA laptops that have the Nvidia 40XX series and new AMD's CPU's blow away any configuration these old beasts can be built to - except maybe RAM and storage. Just a random brain wandering to share. What do you all think?

Just found this - bump for end of 2023 update.

Wow that was quick, price has jumped back up to $180ish within less than 12hrs (from $100). I was thinking they would have kept the sale going for longer. Sorry gents!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115283061485 Not sure where to post to get most views from clevo people, but for less then the price of the normal 330w AC adapter the 780w Eurocom ones are for sale! I think they are normally $300~400 or something

Sorry, I don't know anything at this point as I have not yet chosen to change out my display yet. Did you take it apart and try to clean / reconnect the cable? Or reinstall the display driver (if there is one)? ---------------------------------------------------------- Also I wanted to summarize so far what we know: SHARP 4k IGZO panel: LQ156D1JX01B (4k, 60hz, Glossy?) Use the 6-43-P7501-012-1C cable (according to Eurocom ebay sale) SHARP 4K panel: LQ156D1JW04 (4k, 60hz, not sure if it is an IGZO?) Maybe same ribbon as above but not confirmed Needs the NARROW 40pin cable AU 4k panel: B156ZAN02.2 (4k, 60hz, matte?) Use the 6-43-P75F1-010-C 40pin WIDER cable (according to razor0601 own P750TM Confirmed non-standard panels that have worked: NE156FHM-NZ1 = 1080p / 240hz (one that razor0601 already confirmed worked with IGZO ribbon) Other potentially interesting panels mentioned before (unsure which ribbon would be used): NE156FHM-NZ3 = 1080p / 360hz NE156QHM-NY4 = 1440p / 165hz NE156QHM-NZ2 = 1440p / 240hz NE156QUM-NZ4 = 4k / 120hz B156ZAN05.1 = AU 4k / 120hz (might be the 120hz version of the above mentioned B156ZAN02.2? If so it would need the WIDER 40pin cable) ATNA56AC01 = Samsung 3k (2880x1620) / 120hz / HDR / AMOLED As more people look at their panel and ribbon used, please post up so we can have a place that has options for us to explore / upgrade to. Just realized we have more info besides that one Eurocom diagram mentioned previously: https://eurocom.com/ec/lcds(431)SkyX4C

Honestly not sure, I think the both do well but are for different setups. The one on the right has a heatsink pipe diverted from the GPU to CPU so that one might be able to handle a heavier CPU wattage while not being able to handle as high watt of a GPU, while the one on the left tries to balance it out between the CPU and GPU with more even power usage. Why don't you test it? I will try and test mine later on this year and see what is more effective. But I imagine it would depend on setup.

Any chance you know the cable part number for the wider or smaller 40pin? Incase someone gets a panel for either and needs to know which one to get.

Actually both come from the P750, but one is P750DM2 and one is P750TM, I talked about the difference between the P750 and P775 in this thread a little:

I just paid and shipped my P750DM2 heatsink for @Developer79 to get the 30 series GPU adapter done! I am excited to see what comes from this. I think I may be one of the first to try with a P750? Instead of a P775 or P870. The one on the right in the below picture. The one that has a extra CPU heatpipe going to the GPU cooling fins. (I think the heatsink actually came with the P750TM)

@Developer79 Thanks for that! From what @razor0601 said about using NE156FHM-NZ1, I looked into it a little and there are many versions of "NE156" panels that could work too: NE156FHM-NZ1 = one that @razor0601already confirmed worked: 1080p / 240hz NE156FHM-NZ3 = 1080p / 360hz NE156QHM-NY4 = 1440p / 165hz NE156QHM-NZ2 = 1440p / 240hz That is pretty cool, I might choose one of those, I want higher res than 1080, but I doubt my GPU can actually get decent 4k frame rates, so 1440p on a 15.6 will have good PPI and can have decent frame rates. It might be a sweet spot for me. If I had the money I would love to try this one: Samsung ATNA56AC01 = 3k (2880x1620) / 120hz / HDR / AMOLED ~ $300 Those specs for the panel look amazing! Maybe someday . . .

Actually do you also know which ribbon / connector you used? The part number? Also - I wonder then if any of the touchscreens will also work? Strange idea I know, just curiosity.

Thank you! As long as it works and is stable with it in, who cares if it uses the screw holes! 👍

Sorry for a late bump - but I was looking for some display information for my P750DM2 and this thread seems to have some good information, so I summarized some of it: @razor0601 I find your quote especially interesting - do you know which display it was? It is cool to have these generalities, but having part numbers for display and cables make it easier for other people (like me) to replicate it in the future! I will also eventually update with whichever display I go with and how it worked, so others can see.

Honestly you should create in the notebook components for sale section a " Developer79 P870 Mods / Parts" thread where you can list a couple of the items you are building. There you can list what you have available with pictures. Of course make sure to have the disclaimer of: "Limited parts available!" That would also allow people to post feedback, like pictures of it installed etc so you have the feedback for other buyers to be confident in purchasing parts from you.

Why not start a gofundme or something where people can potentially donate? I think there will be some people who will be willing to donate some money to help. Even if it is just $20, $20 from 10 people is still $200 and that could be helpful. Or have different donation levels = % discount for buying the desktop GPU conversion from you. Maybe every $100 is 10% discount or something. Just some ideas! I would love to see this come together.

Found an old P150EM Timespy benchmark: 3920xm and 1070 Cinebench R15 for 3920xm Same setup with firestrike: Good old days! I wonder how the Quadro RTX 3000 would work!

Honestly that seems pretty amazing, there are a TON of options for 15.6" screens that are 40pin and edp. I am surprised that I have not seen more people switch out for newer panels, especially then with OLED and higher hz panels available in newer laptops. I will have to give it a try and see what I find - eventually, can't do it anytime soon.

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Sure, but there are 1080p panels that are higher Hz, but I have yet to see anyone use them on the clevo. Since the choice has been made to build the P750DM2 to be my "regular" use laptop. I have been looking at a panel upgrade for it. I see the LQ156D1JX01B panel (4k SHARP IGZO) one is available at ~$100 which seems pretty decent and I know will work, but what else? ATNA56WR07 EDP 40Pins AM-OLED 3840×2160 UHD Glossy 60HZ OLED would that work? OLED? kind of expensive at ~$300 though B156han12.5 EDP 40pin IPS 360Hz 1080p matte Looks to be amazing spec and refresh rate for only ~$100 Came from an Alienware M15 R5/6 Honestly I don't know 100% sure what to look for to make it compatible. I only know the following: 43-P7501-012-1C Cable to allow for eDP (4 Lanes) , 40 pins, 3.3v input 15.6 panel size That is it? So any 15.6 panel that is eDP 40pin panel will fit or work? What am I missing? Thanks all.

I have looked into how some people have taken the 9900k and did a -50mv and power limited it in the bios to effectively make it a better 9900t or something. Sometime for SFF build or fanless heatsink. I think I will experiment with seeing how it will perform if I limit it because I already have the 9900k. Thanks!

Looking good! It looks like the board has a little upward slant, would it make it hard to close the bottom case if you found a way to cool it? For example retrofit the vapor chamber dual GPU heatsink to sit ontop of the desktop GPU PCB for cooling and still be able to close the bottom panel. IF that was possible I think you would completely re-write the usability of the P870 series laptop. People may even look for old ones just because this would be possible! Keep it up!