Nice deal!

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

That’s terrible. I remember hearing some 4090’s sensitive to cold memory. (That seems kinda stupid to me) anyways, I’ve started testing the memory on my 3090KP again. I’ve got +1,800 stable so far I’m games. 

Just hide your posts, you have the ability to do so.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

If I buy a gaming laptop, it is not replacing my desktop.
 

Raw graphical power wise the mobile 4090 is about 15% faster than a desktop 3090. And the mobile 4090 is only 10% slower than my overclocked desktop 3090. But, if you account for DLSS 3.0, or even heavily ray traces titles, I cannot keep up with a mobile 4090 at all. Even gimped on power, and throttling to the max it’s going to run circles around my desktop 3090KP HC. Plus, the mobile 4090 can be tuned to extract a little more performance as well.
 

If I bought another gaming laptop, this is just to provide flexibility to my life. Not win races, not run super cool, or compete with a desktop 4090 by any means. It would merely be a gaming laptop that is “Fast enough” and competitive with my gaming desktop. 
 

The nice thing is, a BGA horse poop patty laptop is easily capable of true 4K60+ in gaming. (That is pretty amazing) this is a first in history. I know the 4090 laptop GPU is pretty much a disgrace. And it is not in anyway shape or form comparable to a real desktop 4090. However, since the desktop 4090 is such an overkill monster, just a fraction of its power in a laptop is good enough!

I think such a product would be hailed as exciting if its planted into a laptop that could truly push it. What i mean is we more or less have an understanding of how it performs in the desktop arena, so the challenge would be how close could you get it to desktop levels.

The issue then comes from its BGA only nature of the industry at the moment, and what to do when the laptop fails during an overclocking session. It feels like an inverted product. Its the high end SKU but also set up on a platform where you dont want to push anything at all.

I think if they called it a 4080, probably would've been fine at least until people found out it was a 4090 die.

6 hours ago, Linux said:

No issues with my Clevo model there. Everything works.

That doesnt corelate to my upgraded t440p, touchpad doesnt work regardless of driver, kernel, distro. For that system I have long since given up trying to use Linux with it.

46 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Were they actually Corsair employees? Not defending what they did at all, but just curious if their behavior was a reflection of being an outsourced flunky that doesn't actually care about the brand or the customers. If they were actually Corsair staff, that makes it a less forgivable breach of character. Most of the people I have needed to interact with at ASUS were truly horrible, so I wouldn't have a surprised look on my face if they were Corsair staff. But, I would still hope not.

 

Good help is hard to find, especially when the functional role and compensation package fail to make the employee feel like a mission-critical resource.

Some of you may be aware of Shilka? or at least that was his handle back in the day. Heavy proponent of advising OCN on proper PSU purchases. People used to buy 1000w PSU's for quad core, single GPU systems which was just wasteful. He used to give advise like avoid PSU calculators, they are garbage, and that OEMs is more important than the brand that resells it, 80 Standard is a rubber stamp. Things that are common knowledge (I hope) now but back 10-15 years ago probably wasnt.

Corsair reps would often become unprofessional in that sub-forum. Especially when the Rm1000 released, to which it was blasted as a more expensive, and lesser quality to equal priced competitors despite being the "budget" option. Things like "look into the OEM" was treated as a kind of dog whistle for the Reps to criticize as idiotic. The whole thing just felt dishonest. EVGA was much better a product overall, though they arent without their lemons (like every company with some history)

Then you have the whole tramp stamp debacle, to which Yellow Beard (Corsair Rep) went on to the war path, it was not pretty. He is now banned or at least deactivated. Top it off with them advertising 16.7 million colors when someone checked the controller it was no where near possible to get that many colors. These days people dont expect it, Corsair started that shopping trend, at least for me.

Lastly, they asked OCN for product recommendations. I suggested with how widely well received (though ill advised) CLC CPU coolers had become that its likely there will come a need to supply a demand for 360mm. To which I was told that market doesnt exist and thus would be a waste of time and resources.

5 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Yep, need more PCIe connectors. And the choice is between swap out what I have or mount in an second PSU. 

 

A second PSU will give me loads of cables and power headroom over ecual powered PSU (with dual Nvidia connector) as I already have. And a smaller SFX psu should be a lot cheaper.

 

Saw this... from Tomshardware

 

Corsair SF750 Review

 

Will check the price. Not keen pay overprice. Edit. 195$ 😞

 

And the second choice from Tomshardware... Not so much cheapar (18$) Corsair SF600 Platinum

I dont purchase anything from Corsair anymore. Their mods on various forums burned me from the brand altogether.

17 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I think the old card can drag up to 400W in bench. And I want headroom from the PSU. Hence 600w. I don't bother with efficency standard Gold, purple or yeallow but don't want a PSU that have to use +70% to power only the old GPU's.

 

Then you have the PSU form factor... SFX is in smaller design and intended often for weak and flimsy hardware. You need to go up on wattage. I would never trust 500w PSU in a small design delivering 400W stable. They are often made for weak HW that don't max out the PSU.

I already have the needed dual 16-pin cables from Be Quiet. And its +1500w Platinum and very good quality product. Have even more spare power than 1600W Evga.

 

Ah I misunderstood, I thought this would be internal as a supplement PSU, otherwise, why bother? Just get an appropriate PSU 🙂

14 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

  

Yes, everything EVGA makes is top notch. A 550W PSU is adequate for a lot of applications that do not involve overclocking and overvolting of components that are notorious for being power hungry running stock. For most typical uses you would not exhaust the 550W PSU capacity.

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It was the daily driver system, so mostly just video games. I did bench the 5700xt on it just fine for about 350w through the 8-pin's. I misunderstood the intent here, though this would be internal in the case for the some reason.

My EVGA 550w did fine for the 3090 but keep in mind I locked it to 1v which translated roughly to 350w or so, still use it on my Am4 system with a 2700x and 5700XT. I pushed 325w-350w on the 5700XT as well on it. EVGA makes a solid PSU 🙂

12 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

Particularly from a broader point of reference yes, but people can't do that easily (e.g. change the scope of one's 'tribe' to 'humanity'), if at all. A grand global cause, ideally one that would not involve a threat of mass extinction, would help with that, but none is in sight at present unfortunately and things are regressing overall. I'm not sure Twitter is helping, at any rate - it seems to be doing less lately, which is probably for the best.

I guess it's a luxury of an introvert, I keep the hype at arms length which affords me a better chance at not getting swept into it. 

World needs more humor, and less assumptions. 

11 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

A lot of social media as well as the content of reddit and various forums is tribal, for the very simple reason that most humans are are wired to be strongly tribal. Thankfully, there is also public space for well formulated and community-moderated statements of fact devoid of tribalism: Wikipedia. 

 

While I'm not entirely sure what the exact  scope of the algo in question is, it does seem to be at the core of Twitter operations, so normally the complete implementation might contain non-trivial fine detail of competitive value. Perhaps another reason it might be open sourced (as hinted at by the tweet above), is to just reveal it because he plans to deprecate it, but also with this many leavers, any material IP is on the street already. 

Im aware, however ideas and arguments based on tribalism are typically nonsense.

I dont really use Wikipedia often enough to declare it anything, its a good aggregate for references.

As for the open-source, its likely early days.

1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

 

There may be are a number of different reasons for which a company would consider open-sourcing proprietary software, and they don't apply in all circumstances, e.g. iD Software open sourced Quake code mostly for educational purposes when it became completely obsolete. Sounds like this is more of a combination of a desire to engage community and make Twitter a "people's platform", a publicity stunt really, with a potential to engage some free external resources, given the systematic extermination of the internal talent pool...

 

The flip-side of course is that this algorithm can probably be considered Twitter's secret sauce, i.e. IP, therefore by open-sourcing it he is destroying some of that value, and informing potential competing platforms. That's of course assuming that what is released (if it is released), is the actual current algorithm. I know, I know - Elon promised, but on the other hand Elon is Elon :)

I doubt there is much value in the algorithm anymore, Twitter was just among the first to do it and enter the mainstream. 

I would like to say it's entertaining to watch but it's just continue affirmation of what looks to be tribal nonsense, which is more concerning to me. 

51 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

How is open sourcing the algorithm going to help, apart from greatly facilitating the development of fake news bots?

For the same reason anything goes open source I would presume. It can be identified, though I imagine partisan players will have more fun on that front for the most part. 

57 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

I've always been into emulating older consoles but haven't spent much time with "modern" ones.  My kids took over my Switch so it's easier to just play on my laptop so that I don't have to compete for time; I dumped my games/saves, and I've been playing Xenoblade Chronicles 3 in yuzu.  (Amazing how far this has come along in a short time, basically every game I have thrown at it runs fine, and many of them can get a 4K upgrade.)

 

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How is that game? I've been yearning for an JRPG but I dont have the time to search for something that scratches that itch.

She's a beauty! GLWS!! 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Honestly, it would not surprise me if some people eat while sitting on a toilet. The sheeple believe what they are told. That makes paying more to get less understandable because they're believing lies, trusting liars, and being mislead about getting less. But, it doesn't explain the rationale for carte blanche paying way too much no matter how truly great and amazing it might truly be (4090 is the example here). Everything is a poor value and nothing is priced consistent with the value it offers (or doesn't offer). It adds insult to injury when you are getting a piece of garbage that is severely overpriced.

It would be efficient, only left is a dedicated PotPC and a mini fridge

5 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Not entirely. Back in the days with 5800X3D you had only one X3D Sku. Now you have 3 of them and the more expensive big fat boy (7950X3D) run slower than the cheaper X3D SKU if rumors is correct. Hence pay more get less🤮

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5208017_papusan_unigine_heaven___xtreme_geforce_gtx_570_1764.31_dx11_marks?recalculate=true

Doesnt make too much sense to me to go for a X3D chip on the 7950 but these days I am usually a few generations behind.

1 hour ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

quick and full format both only remove headers, the difference with full format is every header is scanned for bad sector where's in quick format bad sector scan is skipped, back in the day common practice with conventional spinning drives with MFT was 7 time format should get enough data removed to the point it cannot be reconstructed with forensic tools,

I think I use is KillDisk Ultimate for formats though usually only for decom, typical format fs quick is good enough for my uses most often

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Pay more get less. Is this the correct way to spell it for the new and modern? Or should we change it and instead say Pay less get more with the 7000 series X3D chips?😀

 

The Red Team gamer-boy pent all his money on 7950X3D. Then he saw that AMD gave more love to the cheaper X3D gamer SKUs... 

 

Ryzen 7950X3D May Run Slower Than 7800X3D, Reviews Rumored for Feb 27th tomshardware.com

 

But there is a catch about the top-of-the-line Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor: the clocks of its core complex die (CCD) equipped with 3D V-Cache could be lower than those of the less-expensive Ryzen 7 7800X3D, according to @9950pro. 

That was the same for 5800X3D IIRC? For the PlugnPlay gamer they only care about the FPS.

Now for the benching crowd Im sure they will be howling at the moon as its an afront to their basic principles.

Im still waiting for the 5800X3D to hit a lower price point so I can have a more regular benching system.

5 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

Sure. Just a small correction: if if format a harddrive, everything on it, including any .dlls will be gone already - otherwise a solid plan bro 🙂

Teeeeeechniiicallllllyy

All the data would still be there, just the hooks for that data would be removed, isnt it?

I guess I may try Pop! again, last time I did it was with modded laptops and it didnt like the touchpad I had installed at all (still doesnt)

30 usd for an sli cable may seem high but the gtx 280's were free. 

Should hopefully get some gtx 690 SLI this weekend. No idea if 280's will play nice with windows 10 lol

9 minutes ago, Custom90gt said:

 

GPU transcoding on which platform requires a membership? I know Plex does want you to have the pro version, but Jellyfin is free.

I assumed you were talking about Plex for transcoding. Plex is like Steam works pretty darn well out of the box but it when it doesnt its a huge head ache lol

I used Jellyin before when Plex switched their agent for Anime and broke everything on my server. JellyFin works really well but it had a huge problem of not loading subtitles on Android unless you start, stop, rewind and play again. Otherwise was great for me when I tried out it last.

49 minutes ago, Custom90gt said:

 

It's pretty sad that my little 12700k can do 2x as many 4k transcodes than my 3080...

I was mildly irritated that GPU transcoding requires a subscription/membership :( 

May look to try JellyFin again, worked pretty well for what it was.

1 hour ago, kojack said:

I would never buy an asus product. I had terrible service from them in the past where they did not honor their included warranty.  I purchased three devices at the same time for our business, and all three failed in the same fashion within 3 months of ownership and they told me to get bent. Said it was not their fault.  I start reading and everyone who purchased the same device had the same issue of the screen failing within 3-6 months and asus not honoring their warranty.  

 

So even if their machine was 2 times as fast as the fastest notebook and pooped gold nuggets every 20 mins, I would not buy one. Hp, dell and Acer all honor warranty without issue and are great to deal with.  I had to get one dell, one acer and 4 hp notebooks replaced under warranty.  The acer and dell were for physical damage and they honored no questions asked.  The Hp was the same DV 9000 system that had the flaky motherboard, kept replacing them, but they kept breaking...but they did keep replacing them even after the warranty period! 

Warranty service is relative. Dell have been having a heck of a time with failing G5/G7 without as so much as a theory for the cause. Even my boss had the same issue for his son's laptop. Turn it off one day and never comes back to life and we are a business partner to Dell, still sitting on his desk as he hasn't been able to get it refunded or warranty service. 

That being said you'll find horror stories where ever you look. 

43 minutes ago, Hertzian56 said:

COH1 still one of my favorites, not that great graphically but still fun, I use an old Cheat Happens trainer to make it not too much work for a game lol COH2 was too online focused and complicated imo never got into it. The offline skirmishes in COH1 have hundreds of free maps by modders so it's endless really.

Me and my group used to play COH2 pretty often for a while. Some of the mod maps were fun too 🙂