Aaron44126

Nope, this is a platform limitation from Intel at the time. Two cores = two SODIMMs max. Applies to M4800 as well. (You can use "unsupported" GPUs with Optimus disabled, though, as long as the GPU card supports the display type that you are trying to use.)

This is the pre-release thread (...which you are welcome to continue posting in...). There is a separate owner's thread which is a lot more active.

Sidebar — Unclewebb used to visit and post on NBR, if you refer him over here I wonder if he would make an account now that the site is reasonably active...

Likewise, I'm on Windows but I do not consider myself a "casual user" in the least. What's keeping me on Windows isn't performance. It's as simple as: If I were to switch to Linux, I wouldn't be able to run apps that I use. Some apps have open source equivalents that I could try (Photoshop, Lightroom, Outlook, Visual Studio, SSMS) — I've dabbled around and generally found the experience and feature set to be compromised. Some apps that I use heavily simply have no viable alternative on Linux without just resorting to running a Windows VM (OneNote, Quicken, iTunes for iOS device management). Not that I'm not interested. I'd love to give Microsoft the boot. I use Linux in a VM regularly and I used to manage Linux servers, so I am rather comfortable with it. I have an actual list of 25 or so bullet points of items that I'd have to address to switch to it as my daily driver. (Some of those are just along the lines of "understand this better" or "figure this out", but several of them are actual missing apps.) It doesn't seem possible to whittle that list down to 0 right now. For now, the "computing experience compromise" is not worth a few %'s of performance boost that I most likely wouldn't notice. The sort of sad thing is, (aside from gaming) it would be easier for me to switch to macOS than Linux, mostly just because of the apps that I use (most of them exist on Windows and Mac but not Linux). But I can't stand Apple's laptop hardware, so that's not happening either.

I did this without bending the grill by just putting the grill on top of a piece of wood and drilling down into the wood.

Navigate to C:\Users\(your username)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup Note that "AppData" is a hidden folder. Shortcuts dropped in the "Startup" folder will fire every time you log in to Windows.

My Cinebench runs have been with graphics switching on / dGPU powered off. (That’s the default configuration…)

Basically, this option means that the external displays will be connected directly to the dGPU, rather than using the iGPU as an intermediary (as would be the case with the built-in display). There can be a performance improvement in certain situations but it can also cause drawbacks — some apps behave strangely in a multiple monitor setup if different GPUs are driving the different displays.

Even the Dell Outlet systems come with 3 years onsite... My claim is specific to the Precision 7000 line which is 3-year minimum. Precision 5000 and XPS, Latitude, etc. are offered with 1-year. (That's the case in the U.S., anyway, I guess it might not be the same everywhere.)

No. The minimum warranty for these systems at purchase was 3 years. I don't know how the warranty could have run out, unless there is some sidechannel way to buy them with a lower warranty level?

Yes. I don't think that Dell uses the same display cable between 1080p and 4K, so the easiest way is probably to swap the display assemblies (the entire top part of the laptop containing the display, display cable, webcam, etc.). See: https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/precision-17-7760-laptop/precision_7760_sm/removing-the-display-assembly?guid=guid-ac654c1c-830a-46f7-9a27-1f1a4fbb6cbb&lang=en-us The directions request that you remove a large number of components including the system board. I don't think that this should be necessary, if you can just get to the hinge screws (pictured in the link) and pull the antenna cable out. (There might not even be an antenna cable if you don't have WWAN?) I watched a tech do it on my Precision 7770 and he just had to remove the bottom panel and the heatsink. He was done in 15 minutes. If you do have to remove the system board, then just swapping the system boards between the two systems would be faster. (You cannot replace the CPU by itself, it is soldered onto the system board.)

I haven't had time to look at this at all so I will ask you; Do you know how to code these voltage changes into the BIOS (setup_var) so that you don't have to use ThrottleStop to activate them? (This will be required to use undervolting + virtualization features at the same time.)

IIRC @ATAN has no dGPU in his system so it might be easier to fit in a custom solution. (Though I agree, this would be quite the project.)

All Precision 7560 systems should still be under warranty for another 18+ months at least. I think there is some warranty transfer thing you have to do to change ownership? I haven't ever actually done it myself. I'd say, check up on that and make sure that the seller is willing to go through with it. (Then, if the machine arrives with issues, you can just make a warranty claim through Dell.)

I'll try it out sometime and see how it goes for me...

Did you try it? I know that some people have messed with this and the system will report S3 sleep mode available (powercfg) and let you try to use it ... but it will not resume properly.

Here's an article getting into the weeds on Ada Lovelace performance, vs. Ampere and RDNA2. https://chipsandcheese.com/2022/11/02/microbenchmarking-nvidias-rtx-4090/

There was some chatter about this in the thread earlier (@Light, I think), so... You can now order Samsung 990 Pro (up to 2TB) from Samsung or Newegg (and maybe others). Didn't quite make the October release. Samsung's site shows November 21 ETA. (4TB version won't be out until sometime next year.)

I suspect that its the latter. A1000 should be able to play a 4K video file. Anyway, there's also no reason to invoke the dGPU for video playback if the iGPU can do it fine, which seems to be the case here. (I typically shy away from installing extra codec packs unless you have a specific need for them. Windows supports a pretty broad set of common codecs on its own these days and VLC can play anything else you run across.)

2. I don't use sleep, but this is probably "Modern standby" (which no one seems to like) at work. Unfortunately, there's no way to go back to S3 sleep in this system (AFAIK). Use hibernate instead? 3. This is normal stuff from the Intel GPU. A few settings to disable. First go to Settings, System and turn off "Change brightness automatically..." at the top. Next, go to the Intel Graphics Command Center, System, Power, and turn off adaptive brightness and anything that says "power saving". 4. Don't go to BIOS to change the optimized/quiet setting. Use the Dell Power Manager app. You can change it on the fly while the system is running. (I don't know about Dell Command Update offering the same update over and over again. I've heard other users complain about that before. I don't use it, I just grab updates individually by hand from the support site. I have RSS feeds set up to be alerted when new ones drop.) Finally.... 1. I will echo @MyPC8MyBrain here, these noises seem like a hardware issue. Contact Dell support and they will either start swapping parts out or just replace the whole thing. I can say that this is not happening with my 7770 (and I am pretty sensitive to high-frequency noise).

Settings for Windows 10 ..... If you are on Windows 11 it might be slightly different. Settings app -> System -> (scroll down) Graphics settings Under "Choose an app to set preference", select "Microsoft Store app" and then "Photos". Click "Add" and set it to use the high-performance GPU. (Note: The default video player is actually "Moves & TV", not "Photos" -- might want to do that one too.) Close out any running sessions of the app (might have to kill it in Task Manager, Photos likes to stay running after you close all open windows) and then give it another try. It should use the dGPU for playback and maybe it will work better.

I think the GPU will be the most interesting thing with this generation. It probably won't be "twice as fast" but even with the same power/thermal constraints, a node shrink means that you can get more work done with the same amount of power(/heat), so a non-trivial improvement is a pretty sure thing. (How much, exactly, remains to be seen... but it'll definitely be more than A5000→A5500.) Also, for those into gaming, DLSS 3 is super interesting and offers the opportunity to (nearly?) double the framerate in supported games. The CPU upgrade looks kind of "meh" as you said. (Maybe this is why Intel launched 13th gen with a press release rather than a full video presentation.) But, Dell might also have a surprise in there for us. (Past unexpected "nice surprise" examples would be things like the aluminum back display enclosure for Precision 7740, or the 120 Hz 4K display panel in the Precision 7760.)

I agree with @serpro69... There are a lot of people complaining about the Precision 7770 thermals, and the system had a rocky launch, at least among the techy-sorts of people who come to visit a forum like this and expect peak performance from such a system. (Not to mention the manufacturing issues that led to many delayed orders.) But, when the Precision 7770 launched you can bet that they were already a just few months away from finalizing many components of the Precision 7780, so even if they are paying attention to this feedback, they're not going to have time to make any big changes to address it. (Case in point — leaked chassis parts for Precision 7770, spotted in March, had September/October 2021 build dates stamped on them. Precision 7770 didn't launch until July 2022.) Also, Precision 7780 is likely to share a chassis with the Precision 7770 — though, the heatsink/cooler could be tweaked for the better. Dell's system design-to-launch process lasts about two years, so the 2024 Precision systems (Meteor Lake?) might be early enough in the process to take some of this feedback into account. It remains to be seen how much they care about our complaints — if they can sell them in bulk to big businesses regardless of whether or not people like us think that the performance is up to par. And also as @serpro69 alluded, Precision 7770 has essentially no competition in its class, so what are you gonna do? (But, I know that there is some Dell observation of the Precision 7X70 threads on this forum going on.....)

Excellent point. I was thinking about this more after making my previous post. I like the idea of waiting for a Windows client/LTSC release that has parity with a proper Windows Server release before upgrading, because that is one that they will for sure pay extra attention to. Microsoft tends to do that with their LTSC releases, but they didn't do it with LTSC 2021 — but, LTSC 2021 is essentially based on an (at the time) 18-month old Windows 10 release, version 2004, old enough to be pretty solid. And I also remembered that I wanted to reply to your post above but forgot about it after going off track in my last post... When I tried Open Shell on Windows 11, it "sort of" worked, but the way they stick the button onto the taskbar... It doesn't fully cover up the "native" Start button so it's possible to click that one by accident. That was about a year ago, though, it might have been fixed by now. That said, Open Shell doesn't seem to have a tremendous amount of dev interest behind it for making serious improvements. For example, I asked them about a situation where you change the Windows DPI scaling ratio during a session. Open Shell doesn't handle this properly, so you will end up with buttons and menus that are way too large or way too small depending on which way you go. I did get a response but they didn't seem to be interested in addressing this. I've been happily using Start11 for a while now. You have to pay a few bucks, but it works really well and has a lot of options. I've posted a few bug reports on their forum and as long as they can reproduce them internally, they've always addressed them for the next release. As for Windows Subsystem for Android, I played with that for the first time about a month ago. Definitely interesting. I didn't have any trouble with it "working", but the officially available selection of apps was pretty limited. (I know that there are also ways to sideload apps... including the full Google Play store. Didn't try that.) I was pleased that app discovery works really well, installed apps just show up in the Start Menu and they can be pinned to the taskbar without hassle. It does have a notable startup delay... When you start an Android app, if you didn't have any others running, it has to basically boot up Android which takes several seconds. The other issues I have are more to do with just what it is like to shove a touch-focused app onto a traditional PC. Keyboard and mouse interactions are kind of wonky in some apps. You're used to using arrow keys or PgUp/PgDn or the mouse scroll wheel to scroll, for example, but that might not work as you expect (or at all). I'm sure at least some app developers will take note that they have a new potential Windows audience and update their apps to work more smoothly inside of WSA.

I ran Ethernet all throughout my house a couple of years ago, so all bedrooms and common areas have at least one active Ethernet jack in the wall, connected to a pair of switches running down in the basement with my "server" and AT&T gigabit fiber hookup. But, it's just running 1 Gbps. I did CAT6 so I "should" be able to go faster (all of the runs are less than 100 feet), but I don't have any switches or even endpoints that support a higher speed...