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  1. Aaron44126
    Seems like web prices have been updated, at least on the U.S. site. The system that I configured last week on launch day for $7,100 is now showing around $6,200. (i9/128GB RAM/A4500/512GB SSD/5 year ProSupport Plus/extras; same as the one that I bought through a rep, except with RTX A4500 instead of GeForce RTX 3080Ti.) If you buy a system and end up finding a better deal shortly afterwards, you can go to customer service and they should credit you the difference.
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    So, I'm going to be working on a "professional"-style review for the Precision 7770 after I get it. I've been planning on doing this for a while, even before NBR died. My intent is to publish it here on NotebookTalk. I'm planning to have two parts to the review. The first part will follow a normal laptop/notebook review format and in addition to some benchmarks, I'll be looking at things like available options, design & build, disk performance, fan behavior/noise, temperatures & max/average clock speeds, and so on. I'm picking up a "Kill-a-Watt" power meter, IR temperature sensor, and dB meter to help out with this. For the first part, I will specifically be looking at running tests with the system in its stock/default configuration and not taking any special steps to push the performance up. The second part may be published a little bit later and it will be more of a less structured grab bag where I take a look at things like the impact of Dell's thermal settings, Optimus on vs off, Windows 10 vs 11, dock behavior, undervolting CPU & GPU, what Linux support looks like, and whatever else I can think of. In terms of benchmarks for the first part, I am looking at: CPU Cinebench WPrime GPU 3DMark (Fire Strike & Time Spy, and probably some others as well) Unigine Superposition GravityMark Final Fantasy XIV benchmark Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark (Not apt to include SPECviewperf ... I'm getting a GeForce configuration, so performance in many of those tests will be bad compared to what you'd get with a pro-RTX GPU) It's my first time attempting something like this so I'm looking for feedback as to what sorts of things you guys would like to see in a laptop review, if there is anything specific that you think I should take a look at or if there are any benchmarks that you would like to see run that are not included above. (The review will take some days/weeks to put together, so of course I will also be doing Q&A/AMA once the system comes in. I imagine that some other users receiving systems would be happy to participate in this as well.) Thanks!
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    There was the situation where it looked like 7770 would launch before 7670, a couple of weeks ago. They might have been more ready to go with that one.
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    Yes, the issue seems to be if you add a fingerprint reader, it forces you to add a smartcard reader, and that forces you to add the SSD door.
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    My 7770 order is now showing “in production”. (Precision 7560 order last year, placed a day or two after launch, took about two weeks to show this status…)
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    Google: "58500 cny to usd" -> $8,737.60 (I think maybe you tried to convert "yen" which is the Japanese currency.) You are right, it looks like if you select a GPU that gets you the performance chassis for Precision 7670 and a security option (smartcard/fingerprint reader), the SSD door is added automatically and you can't get rid of it. They must not have made a "performance chassis + smartcard reader + no SSD door" part; I guess with eight possible variations of the bottom cover for the Precision 7670, it makes sense that maybe they didn't choose to produce all of them. For Precision 7670 (thin chassis) and Precision 7770, you do have the option to get rid of the SSD door. You could try to get the "performance chassis + no smartcard reader + no SSD door" part separately (Taobao might have it available) and swap it out. I think it would be physically compatible, it would just partially cover up the smartcard reader slot.
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    Precision 7560 + WD19DC and we do not have this issue. Are the LEDs on both of the USB-C cables lighting up …?
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    Last time I tried FIPS was with Precision 7530. It was definitely slow to read, you have to hold your finger on it for 2-3 seconds. It looks like they are still using the same sensor. Non-FIPS in Precision 7560 is very quick, less than a second. Also not a fan of the placement of the FIPS sensor in Precision 7770. Instead of on the very right side of the palmrest, it is moved in a bit towards the middle. (FIPS would presumably be more secure / harder to trick.)
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    1. No, if you get the fingerprint reader, you will get a smartcard reader too, I don’t think there is any way to avoid this. 2. Pick the chassis option for “smartcard only” and not “smartcard and SSD door”. 3. NVIDIA Dynamic Boost will shuffle the power allocation between CPU and GPU depending on current load conditions. Interesting that GeForce is showing as an option on the China site.
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    I don’t know the answer to this. But, Dell typically allows the external video ports to be connected directly to the dGPU even if hybrid graphics is turned on (setting in BIOS). It should offer the standard HDMI output for Tiger Lake or NVIDIA Ampere depending on which GPU you set it to connect to. (I don’t think the specific NVIDIA GPU would matter in this regard, output options for all Ampere GPUs on offer should be the same.) After receiving the system I will check to confirm if all external outputs can be connected to either GPU.
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    There’s still going to be a SODIMM option, so you could bring your own modules and save a bit… just limited to two modules, so an issue if you need more than 64GB. 😕
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    You can’t get 3080Ti through the configurator. You must go through a sales rep to get it. (This is the case in all regions.)
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    This is actually a limitation of the Alder Lake platform. If you have 128GB then it must slow down to 3600 MHz. ...I went for the big memory capacity because I have use for it, but I would be very interested to see some benchmarks and see what speed difference it makes. I would assume that the CL decreases when the memory is operating at a lower speed so it won't make a noticeable performance difference unless you are running something that is especially memory-intensive. See: (Courtesy of @Peksha earlier in this thread.) That's crazy. Dell might not be supporting GeForce+Linux but there is no reason why it wouldn't work. ProSupport gets you directly to a local support person if you call in (rather than the India call center or something). I like having it, they've never given me any hassle with regards to getting components replaced and on a couple of occasions I've had issues elevated to the engineering team pretty promptly. I imagine basic onsite would be fine, you just might have to deal with another layer or two of people who don't know the system as well if you actually have an issue that needs a hardware replacement... (One would hope that you never actually have to call them.) Note that "ProSupport Plus" basically combines ProSupport and accidental damage protection (as I understand it).
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    I have some benchmarks from when I first tried the M5000M, upgrading from K5000M. Performance doubled (or more) in most cases. https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-m6700-gpu-upgrade-k5000m-to-m5000m.807061/ To know if you have eDP, you basically need to find your display panel model (use MonInfo or HWiNFO64) and then look up the panel information online to see if it is eDP or LVDS. I don't think Adobe products would care which type of panel you are using.
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    U.S. site is now showing August 15 for Precision 7770 ETA. Wonder if they're still making adjustments, or if changes to inventory & anticipated production workflow causes the target to change as orders come in...
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    Realized the comparison of web price and rep price I gave above was off. The rep price I gave included sales tax but the web price did not. So, the discount is even greater. I saved around $1,400 (almost the price of the CAMM module!), close to 20%. Part of that was warranty savings. The rep matched a deal that I asked about which was active in June but not July, which gets you 5 years ProSupport (Plus) for the cost of 4. So, ask about that if you’re interested in extending the base warranty.
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    Hopefully, CAMM becomes a standard and we get more manufacturers, places to order from, and competition. Right now, it's going to be inflated for sure 😕
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    Just put my order in. Got the same price as before. (Well, up just a little because I did decide to go with 512GB SSD. I'll end up moving it to a different system.) Estimated ship August 2, estimated receipt August 5. (I hope they are early and not late. I am traveling starting August 7. I'd like to bring it with me, rather than have to wait for it if it arrives while I am gone. 😛 ) Also. I'm still using the Precision M6700 as my personal system, which I got at launch in 2012, and this Precision 7770 is replacing. August 9 would mark the ten-year anniversary since I received the M6700. Fun timing 🙂 Back to waiting. (Now to refresh the order details page an unreasonable amount of times every day to see when it advances to "in production".)
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    That is the only one.
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    Thanks for the quick reply. I'm still a little confused on the situation with the 256GB drive. Let me ask this — since it is a 2230 drive not not 2280 like the others, does it still ship with a M.2 extender and full-size 2280 heatsink covering it so that you could replace it with a 2280 drive later if you like? (I believe this is how last year's Precision 7X60 systems worked.)
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    Regarding the online configurator... Europe seems to be blocking i9 orders, if you select the i9 CPU it will say that all of the available OS choices are incompatible. Assuming this will be fixed soon ...? (Doesn't seem to be a problem on the U.S. site.) If you order a system with the base 256GB SSD (M.2 2230) as the first drive, and try to add an additional SSD, it will complain that the 256GB SSD is not compatible with additional SSDs. Some questions follow: Why is this? Is there a practical/physical limitation? If a user orders the system with the base 256GB SSD, will the heatsinks & screws be included to install additional drives? Will it be possible to replace the 256GB SSD (2230) with a larger drive (2280)? Also if you try to fill out four drives in the Precision 7770, it will require you to upgrade the battery. Does the base battery occupy one of the M.2/NVMe slots? Also, can you share PL1/PL2 power limits for the CPU? Thanks!
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    120Hz panel is only for the Precision 7770. My experience is that the reps can knock hundreds of dollars off of a high-end configuration. One month ago, I got a quote from a rep for i9/3080Ti/128GB RAM/etc. and 5-year ProSupport Plus and it came out to about $6,050. When I quote out the same spec on the U.S. web site right now, it is coming out to about $7,060. A little bit fudged since you can't select 3080Ti on the web site (I have selected A4500 in its place, price should be similar). So, yes, that's a >10% discount. I feel like they have wider latitude to lower the price on warranty upgrades than they might on actual hardware components. (Sort of speculating based on experience. Nothing hard to go on there.) So yes, for the best price, get in touch with a rep. Call the small business sales line, or you can just use the online chat if it is available in your market. When you get a quote, check it carefully to make sure that everything that you asked for is accounted for. I almost always have to get them to change something. I don't have a final price on a system to order today just yet. My quote from last month is expired. I'm waiting for a call back from my rep.
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    Just noticed the U.S. site is showing July 27 estimated delivery for 7770.
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    U.S. configurator pages are live. Going to call up a rep and try to order in about an hour, as soon as I am done with some work meetings... The U.S. configurator seems to show the proper price difference for each CPU choice and also allows you to select the i9 CPU. 128GB CAMM costs "only" $1,700.
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    Not sure what is up with this, but if you leave the cheap base 256GB SSD in the configurator and then try to add an additional SSD, it will complain that the 256GB option is not compatible with additional drives. (Seems to happen with both systems.) I do not expect that there will be an issue adding drives if you order the system with the 256GB SSD, but this is making me a little bit apprehensive; I'm thinking about ordering a 512GB drive instead just to ward off any potential trouble. 256GB is 2230, but the other drives are 2280, maybe that has something to do with it. Precision 7760 with 256GB/2230 shipped with an "extender" and a regular 2280-size heatsink covering it, but this is not yet confirmed to be the case with 7X70. I'm going to see if I can get some official clarification on this (...but I'm not going to hold up my order while waiting). ...I'll be able to repurpose the a 512GB drive more easily than a 256GB anyway. Also, I noticed that Precision 7770 requires you to upgrade the battery if you fill out the system with four drives. (I wonder why that is...)
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