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It's because of the monetary system, that's the real reason why everything is the way it is!!!

Nice!:-)

From this one!

You've misunderstood something: with its SLI capability, the P870xx initially takes up a lot of space in the case due to its geometry! This is independent of the electrical capabilities. Thanks to my specially developed board, it is now also possible to convert SLI mode to x16 PCIe standard mode, just like any normal PC motherboard. All of this takes place inside the case and also makes it possible to integrate a desktop GPU card into the P870xx!

That's debatable; all the points you mentioned also apply to the P870xx. The cooling for the P870xx is the best cooling available for a laptop. Take a look at the P870TM thread. My development in the P870xx with RTX30xx MXM does not exceed 60 degrees compared to the X170xx. Apart from that, I have made it possible to integrate the RTX30xx MXM into the P870xx. And yes, my electrical development for the P870xx makes it possible to run desktop cards integrated. With x16 connection. The RTX5070 FE fits very well into the P870xx. My latest development makes it possible to run resolutions in UHD up to 144Hz on the laptop display. Yes, the developers at Clevo could design everything the way I do, but unfortunately there are always obstacles due to the monetary system!!!!

From a technical point of view, the P870xx is the best Clevo has ever produced. The X170xx was already a departure from high-end, and although it had some good features, overall I am only convinced by the P870xx model series from a technical point of view! If I were a developer at Clevo, I would update the motherboard of the P870xx to the latest Intel 14/15/16 Gen. and no longer use MXM, but simply Flat PCIe x16 5.0 with an extra vapor chamber. In other words, a normal desktop graphics card. My development shows that it works!!!

It's a real shame that Clevo no longer manufactures high-end laptops like the P870xx. It's unfortunate. It seems that the only option is to build one generation and then purchase a new laptop.

I have finished developing and producing my second CPU fan controller for the P870TM. This makes it possible to control the second 5V fan simultaneously with the 12V main fan! Pictures are shown in the main thread (P870TM). Everything works as I designed it...

Hi Maro, I have finished developing and producing my second CPU fan controller for the P870TM. This makes it possible to control the second 5V fan simultaneously with the 12V main fan! Pictures are shown in the main thread (P870TM). Everything works as I designed it... Big thanks to you for your support:-)

Thanks to Maro97 for the presentation! Everything matches my results, which I also published in the main thread (P870TM)! It's a shame that Clevo no longer manufactures these genuine laptops. I will try to finish the desktop extension for the P870xx in the fixed version soon. Then the RTX50xx series will also run on the P870xx!

Yes, it is possible, as stated, but it doesn't make much difference since Nvidia has abandoned SLI technology!

I have already done tests with my developed adapters. The connection is x16 in the P870xx (9900K/KS). The performance was similar to that of a system with a 13th/14th Gen Intel desktop! I took pictures and posted them in the forum thread P870TM. The discussion with bottleneck is not really important in real game tests in UHD/4k. My tests show similar results to the latest CPUs from Intel. My last test with BlackMyth Wukong with AMD was similar. It was a 7800x3D (or 9000x3d, I don't remember exactly) processor. The 9900K/KS was better in some cases compared to Intel... So Intel always performs better than AMD in my tests.

Hi, my development for the P870TM CPU concerns the intended connection for the second fan. With my development, it is possible to run the 5v fan controlled with the 12v fan. The 5v fan starts when the 12v fan starts! It is also possible to upgrade the vapor chamber to the RTX30xx series! Furthermore, the P870xx is the only laptop in the world that can accommodate desktop graphics cards...

The PCB of the new RTX5070 looks very good! The P870xx would work well with the latest RTX5070 series...

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Hi, yes, the P807TM is the best model in the P870xx series. Of course, the P870DM23/KM are also good! The P870TM is good because the CPU cooler is the best. Technically, all models are almost the same except for the chipset! Yes, I am the only one who developed the adapters that work with the RTX30xx in the P870xx with vapor chamber. I can always rebuild some. That's not a problem! You can also reach me here in the forum! My last development is the second fan for the CPU, which can now finally be controlled normally with Clevo's internal control. This means that the fan always turns optimally! I've left pictures in the forum... Furthermore, my desktop project would be worth mentioning. I'm sure you've already seen it! My latest project would be a test with the latest RTX50xx series.... Greetz

If you want to install the RTX3080 in SLI in the P870(DM23/KM/TM), then the heatsink has to be modified and you need my own developed adapters. I have written about this in detail in the forum P870TM thread and shown what is possible with the P870xx and what the gaming performance is like. In my opinion, one of the last best laptops ever from Clevo!!! In the thread, I also wrote that desktop graphics cards can be installed. I might be testing the latest RTX50xx soon!!!

Hi, yes, I tested this combination. SEMI-SLI! Not much use in real gaming.. Greetz..

Hi, the RTX5070ti FE and the PCB look very good! Let's see how it fits into the P870xx! I'll be in touch...

Hi all, I'm thinking of doing a test with the latest RTX50xx generation in the P870xx. Would you be interested in that too!? Greetz

I can now mod any P870...P775... for the latest graphics cards. In the original style! It's all possible without DSANKE!!

No, in terms of performance, all platforms are the same. The only difference is the chipset! As we all now know, all chipsets from Z170-Z370 are upgradeable with all processors up to the 9th generation! The power consumption via the motherboard for the desktop graphics card is the same for all models! The DM2 works the same as the KM or TM!!! ...

My GPU expansion does not fit into the X170xx! The geometric proportions alone are unsuitable compared to the P870xx (DM23/KM/TM)! The second aspect is the electrical connection, which is different for the X170xx. My development is specially adapted to the P870xx (DM23/KM/TM)...

Hi, you surely mean the GPU extension! The X170xx has a newer CPU generation, which will be a slight advantage, but my tests with the GPU extension showed almost no difference to the 9th Gen! My GPU extension works with all P870xx, except the P870DMG (the very first model)! Please send me an email for further answers! Greetz

Yes, I played around a bit. Also to test how the card behaves!:-) Thank you for your support