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Clarifying Questions on upgrading P870DM3 and P750DM2
Developer79 replied to 0anassa0's topic in Sager & Clevo
No, you are not limited to 144Hz. It is only what is currently possible in UHD, for example! When UHD 240Hz comes out, that would also work. I developed these adapters myself and refined them more and more over time. The current version is the third. Yes, a lot is really possible with the P870xx. In my opinion, one of the best technical prerequisites for future GPU solutions. CPU would of course also be nice n. But I am an individual developer. My financial possibilities are limited. Therefore, I can only wait until the situation improves and possibly continue. Thanks again for the moral support. It would be nice if Clevo would refresh the motherboard of the P870xx. That would save a lot of work. But that's wishful thinking. Thanks:-) -
Clarifying Questions on upgrading P870DM3 and P750DM2
Developer79 replied to 0anassa0's topic in Sager & Clevo
This works without any major problems. You just have to build a few brackets. This works up to UHD 144Hz. I have developed adapters for the P870xx and P775xx, which makes it possible to use all old heatsinks for these laptops. They only need to be machined using a milling machine. You don't need heatsinks from Ali or anywhere else, it works just as well with my adapters. I have already developed the 3rd version of these adapters. I have been using these adapters for a long time since the RTX30xx series came out. Of course you can. It is possible to install this heatsink in the P870DM3 without any major problems. The P870DMG is more difficult. I have finished the adaptation electrically. I may show a photo of the adapter soon. I have tested the RTX4070 so far. That alone is already amazing. This card is already much faster than an RTX4090 laptop. I also tested the RTX4090 FE last weekend. It's a real monster. That's too much for the P870xx. I would see the RTX4080 as my favorite. This card fits very well, but the RTX4070 also fits very well. The benchmarks in the thread show the outstanding performance. Real 16 lane connection and full desktop performance. An acquaintance recently asked me about the possibility of installing the 13900HX and 14900HX. I have checked it as far as possible. It might work. I would have to develop 2 boards for the P870xx series. I'm not going to do that for now 🙂 Anyway, cooling is more important for now. I don't have much time at the moment and money is of course also a factor. See my comments on the P870xx. By the way, the Vapourchmaber in the P870xx cools best. I achieved the following temps with this combination and RTX3070/RTX3080. RTX3070 52 degrees and RTX3080 approx. max. 60 degrees. For the P775xx, the RTX3070 would be the best option with high performance and less heat development. To summarize: Yes, you can see what has already been said above and what is possible. Unfortunately, Clevo has succumbed to the prevailing monetary system and now only builds laptops without a desktop CPU or desktop GPU (MXM). My idea was to create an extension for the P870xx, as it has the best prerequisites from an engineering point of view. I have tried to implement this and it works for the GPU. My tests show that the P870xx is still 2023 up-to-date in pure gaming performance (also MXM RTX30xx and UHD) and my extension is much faster than an RTX4090 laptop compared to RTX40xx laptop. I am also curious how the new RTX50xx series will be. I hope NVida makes the same brilliant progress as with the RTX40xx series. In my opinion, this is the best in many years. I was blown away by the performance of the RTX4070 desktop and the RTX4090 is absolutely amazing in a laptop. The RTX4080 is the upper limit from a technical point of view. But the performance is also far superior in any resolution! -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
I have now checked the CPU expansion to 13th 14th Gen HX! That would work, but the effort is relatively high. You would probably need 2 new PCBs especially for socket 1151 and an extension for the motherboard. -
It doesn't seem to be just one particular display, I tested it too! AUO makes very good displays. You just have to build appropriate mounts. If you are creative, you can make a solution. The 4k 120Hz display works flawlessly, for example. In my opinion, one of the best displays. Of course, 144Hz is a bit better :-)
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
Exactly what I mean. The ADT adapter would only work with 8 lanes on the P870xx. But my adapter works with 16 lanes. I have developed one especially for this series of the P870xx! It is really compact and fits exactly into the P870xx... -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
No, I don't use anything like that! I have made my own solution with which then 16 lanes works. With the adapter only 8 lanes would work. My goal was to integrate the desktop card. With your adapter this would not work... -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
What is it? -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
I do not quite understand what you mean!??:-) -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
You can also use two cables for graphics card all the time even if you use only one graphics card with little power! This halves the load on the motherboard and increases the durability of the SMD devices. I have in any case not exceeded the maximum power of the motherboard so that you can use the power without hesitation. The new ADALOvelace generation is absolutely brilliant in terms of performance. The performance of the card in relation to the power consumption is gigantically good. My power supply hardly gets warm. There is less power loss and the heat increase in the notebook is low. The RTX4070, for example, ran extremely well... -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
The power supply is designed for maximum stress. If you have a card with little power, one power supply is enough. If you need high power up to 450W you have to use 780W power supply or 2 330W power supplies. In the maximum versions you must also connect 2 aux cables. The power supply is designed for 2 aux cables! -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
Ok, it works now!! Thanks -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
Just now : Max total size: 71,03kb!!!!??? -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
My allowed file size is reduced more and more the more images I copy in!🤔 -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
I can not upload the pictures!? Only with very little space... -
clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
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clevo p870tm/tm1-g Official Clevo P870TM-G Thread
Developer79 replied to ViktorV's topic in Sager & Clevo
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Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
I am also sure that it is interesting for many who have a Clevo P870xx. Such things go but only in large books that offer the space and have the prerequisites! I can show you how the power supply looks like installed in the P870xx or where it sits! There people can imagine how I mean it... -
Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
Yes, the electrical power comes directly from the 2 graphics card cables! I have developed a complete internal power supply for the P870xx...Yes, the cooling will be as thick as that of the vapour chamber of the p870xx...The Cpu wiwrd difficult because the gen. have a different power protocol.... The 10.Gen still goes, the other would be associated with a lot of effort.... -
Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
I know what you mean. My development allows to run cards with 300- 400 W in the P870xx...:-) -
Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
I rather think not! The are forced by the shareholders and the pressure by the contracts and the monetary system....Would be nice of course, but at the moment it does not look like that, as I said...The GTX990M was but also MXM Factor. I'm talking about a complete desktop card:-) -
Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
The P870xx then has real desktop GPU power and real desktop CPU power. I think this is a novelty 🙂 -
Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
The RTX4070ti is connected directly to the MXM port x16 lanes, yes! Nothing with TBT or other things. It's still in an experimental stage and there should be a RTX4080 installed soon in P870xx:-) I have indicated it on the picture, as the location of the card is in the notebook. I do not want to take pictures of my ideas for now. Make but the given time. -
Clevo with Framework GPU interconnect standard?
Developer79 replied to KabyZen's topic in Sager & Clevo
That would be my solution to keep the MXM laptop(P870xx) supplied with new graphics card generations!:-) And another picture shows my last system Spec:-)