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10 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:
As we have seen in most countries throughout the world since COVID-19, the average "citizen" is content for someone else to decide what is best for them and they are glad to be compliant with those decisions because they assume that decision-makers have their best interests at heart. Pretty messed up. Even if they did/do, I won't let someone else decide what is best for me or my family, and if their opinion about it doesn't match mine, I'm going my way, not theirs, rejecting their lead, disregarding and deliberately resisting their influence, and withdrawing any show of support for them or their agenda. That is exactly what I have done with the turdbook manufacturers. They make trash. I don't want trash. I'm not going to accept that from them, and they aren't getting any money from me. I won't be nice to them and won't try to find anything good to say about them. They can rot in hell for all I care, along with the pathetic garbage they are peddling.
I will ride long on my Clevo P870, my Clevo W860 and my wife’s cheap laptop she used for work. After that I will buy a sub 300$ laptop for on the go. No need for anything other than this. I won’t support greedy and lie’s coming from the laptop oems/Nvidia’s graphics solutions for laptops. And I will put money on my monster desktop build. Nothing come close do it this way.
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On 7/1/2022 at 8:24 AM, 1610ftw said:
So this is the issue: Nvidia is effectively holding back companies who want to do more,
With the castrated laptop graphics TDP paired with the disaster Dynamic boost (your Cpu will be crippled if your gpu get max TDP), they hope you upgrade before time. If you get an desktop 4080/4080 ti you’ll ride on it due proper TDP. The max TDP including Dynamic disaster on laptops is a joke! They know how to milk laptop jockeys. Yep, they do this to push you on next year’s awful products.
Edit. Regarding power adapters… The biggest you’ll get is a slim 280w adapter forwards. Why offer a thicker Delta 330w when the new chassis design with Nvidia’s big boy graphics is so damn cute and pretty?
On 7/1/2022 at 7:12 PM, win32asmguy said:I think the gaming DTR niche effectively collapsed itself when we had the Alienware 51m, MSI GT76, and X170SM all competing against each other for the same customers that year. I would not be surprised if Clevo lost many sales to those competitors, and their R&D budget was reduced as a result. I know monopolies are generally frowned upon but in this case it is probably best to have less competition for this type of laptop.
No point make it if all you’ll get is exactly the same as in the thin and slim. Upgradable would only be the Cpu. If they was so kind offer it. DTR is history. And most likely will never come back. I would never accept the DTR branding on new laptops.
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Thanks to yo all. I’m on vacation as bro Fox said. But I’m sick due my bad health. Can’t almost not hold an phone or look in the laptop. I will post when my health is better. God bless you all.
Bro Papusan
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On 6/22/2022 at 10:03 PM, ryan said:
beaten by a g7.....sad
This is sad. I talk about M$ products
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21 hours ago, Papusan said:
Rx 6400/1650 ti performance for 600$. That's a steal. Who is this this cards really meant for? Office users that can't buy anything than Intel products/have to use up their budget for tech? What a huge Joke! Intel have gone bananas. No wonder they prefer offer this low entry card with the disgusting price tag first in China and not in U.S/EU. Yep, can't be a 1th April deal. We are already in end of June.
China can't be much worse than here home (we have added 25% tax on top). But I wouldn't touch this crazy deal with a 10 feet pole. Those that buy this is either very messed up in their head or just plain stupid. Or both.
We have words for this here home... "Klin kokos". Damn it fits very well for Intel and the buyers of this new graphics card https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klin_kokos
Translated to English... KOKO
Intel’s first custom ARC A380 graphics card officially listed in China for 3999 RMB (595 USD)
https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-first-custom-arc-a380-graphics-card-officially-listed-in-china-for-3999-rmb-595-usdAre you in a need for a new graphics card bro @Mr. Fox ?🙃 Whats wrong with todays tech companies?
Miners have just started dumping their Ampere graphics cards in China. And Intel want $600 in same market for their new lovely low entry graphics cards with unfinished drivers, LOOL
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/crypt-miners-start-dumping-gpus
Twitter user I_Leak_VN(opens in new tab) spotted multiple listings of custom GeForce RTX 3080 graphics cards reportedly selling for 3,500 yuan, or $523.21. For reference, the GeForce RTX 3080 has a $699 MSRP
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Rx 6400/1650 ti performance for 600$. That's a steal. Who is this this cards really meant for? Office users that can't buy anything than Intel products/have to use up their budget for tech? What a huge Joke! Intel have gone bananas. No wonder they prefer offer this low entry card with the disgusting price tag first in China and not in U.S/EU. Yep, can't be a 1th April deal. We are already in end of June.
China can't be much worse than here home (we have added 25% tax on top). But I wouldn't touch this crazy deal with a 10 feet pole. Those that buy this is either very messed up in their head or just plain stupid. Or both.
We have words for this here home... "Klin kokos". Damn it fits very well for Intel and the buyers of this new graphics card https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klin_kokos
Translated to English... KOKO
Intel’s first custom ARC A380 graphics card officially listed in China for 3999 RMB (595 USD)
https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-first-custom-arc-a380-graphics-card-officially-listed-in-china-for-3999-rmb-595-usdAre you in a need for a new graphics card bro @Mr. Fox ?🙃 Whats wrong with todays tech companies?
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One more bug: June updates break login process for Windows on ARM
Quickly after releasing June Cumulative updates Microsoft confirmed a bug that prevents the user from enabling a mobile hotspot on Windows 11 and 10. Sadly, it was not the only bug introduced in this update. Another issue affects ARM versions of the OSes and breaks the login process.
Microsoft acknowledges that a Windows 11 update is causing serious connection issues betanews.com
And Microsofts engineers prefer do it the same for their whole product stack....
Recent Windows Server updates break VPN, RDP, RRAS connections
This month's Windows Server updates are causing a wide range of issues for administrators, including VPN and RDP connectivity problems on servers with Routing and Remote Access Service (RRAS) enabled.
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The history seen from this article from Computerbase confirms how AMD screwed their HEDT customers. The previous Threadripper socket mess (change only for a change) just confirms that AMD didn't bother offer similar as for their mainstream platform.
Ryzen Threadripper 5000: AMD once again takes pity on Threadripper computerbase.de
3/8/2022 3:00 p.m
The last little loved child is now finally on the market: Threadripper 5000. But the thing has the famous catch, because it will not be available as a HEDT variant for the desktop, only workstations will be served with the Pro version. And here it is again just a converted Epyc processor.AMD Ryzen Threadripper has changed
On November 5, 2020 AMD released the Zen 3 processors on the market, today, 488 days later, the Threadripper is finally available. Started in 2017 as a flagship project for the HEDT segment, nothing is left of it now. The initial driving forces behind the project have been gone for years, with Jim Anderson leaving in 2018 to become CEO at Lattice Semiconductor and James Prior joining SiFive . The remnants of the HEDT idea, which were already planned in advance, have remained, although in the last generation it is only a miserable one. High End Desktop (HEDT) is dead for the time being.
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@tps3443 congrats with a new....."bicycle"😃
A by-product from benching the old. Got the 3rd place validated on 3DM Hall of Fame.
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/3dmark+11+physics+score/version+1.0.132
https://hwbot.org/submission/5022434_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_580_15328_marks
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June 14, 2022—KB5014699 (OS Build 19044.1766) LTSC 2021
Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 19044.1766 — KB5014699 -
June 14, 2022—KB5014692 (OS Build 17763.3046) LTSC 2019
Windows 10 servicing stack update - 17763.2980
Prerequisite:
You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU.Manual download:
CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3046 — KB5014692
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Todays's tidbit. Nothing have changed from older days tech vs today. Almost no performance gain for the sucessor and the prices follow same paths for the newer memory standard as for the older gens(more expensive than it's predecessor). Yep, not much have changed in the tech industri. New standard means only new ways to maximize the profits around release.
In the test 15 years ago: DDR3 celebrated its premiere with the Intel P35 at Asus computerbase.de
The appearance of DDR3 was reminiscent of the debut of its predecessor in more ways than one: significantly higher prices without a noticeable advantage. The new technology was therefore not really recommended at the time of publication. The actual advantages of DDR3 over DDR2 would only become apparent in the years to come, similar to DDR2 over DDR before. DDR5 will be the same for years to come.
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Intel's greed have no limits. And if they as they stated don't trust own products, maybe start design/create something better. And what's the difference vs their more expensive unlocked K chips.... You void the warranty there as well, if you run their chips outside specs. What a Joke. If the bin quality is so bad, maybe instead use those chips in thin and slimyJokebooks and not for desktops?
Intel believes that the Non-K Alder Lake CPUs aren't designed to handle overclocking and can degrade the performance or even kill the CPUs after prolonged uses.
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Huge happiness in the MSI camp now. The AMD boys/girls can finally enjoy overclocking with their "special" Ryzen gamer chips. Yep, the bios is in beta but I expect thats not a problem for those that have struggled with all bugs from AMD the last two years.
The MSI forum administrator also shared screenshots of some Cinebench R23 runs that he did on the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Unfortunately, he didn't detail the settings he had modified, but his results showed a 4.7% higher multi-core performance. Sadly, single-core performance didn't see any benefits, with a margin of less than 1%.
The firmware is currently in beta, so MSI still has to iron out all the bugs and whatnot. For example, it's unknown if the brand only offers the unlocked options on the MEG X570 Unify or if it'll extend support to other AMD motherboards. There's also no word on when the official firmware will be ready.
Keep calm and tweak on 🙂
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-x570-beta-bios-enables-ryzen-7-5800x3d-tweaking-
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12 hours ago, ryan said:
wow you guys have been busy chatting away....I just got back from my vacation....
You should have been on vaccation to bro Papusan and enjoyed the disgusting weather we have her near the North pole. Yep, sleet, snow, rain and hail. And nice warming 8.5C degrees (yep, no sun) and we are in the middle of summer and the sun turns in 3 four days. This spring and summer we have almost not seen the sun. Aka a full race back to the dreaded dark season (rain, snow, wind, the dark and cold) without seeing much sun in the summer part. I HATE IT!
Yep, no sun on my place...
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21 hours ago, Ashtrix said:
Now the question....
So would you suggest going with the AIO which LF II 360mil over DH15 + 4x NFA12x25 fans on top ?
If yes I have one more thing, I read the LF II uses fan cabling in sleeving which is really a novel thing, and makes the machine look very neat.
But how do I replace the fans or should I even replace the 3x Arctic P12s with 3x Noctua NFA12x25 Chromax. (I like how Noctua fans have rubber anti vibration pads while P12s from Arctic do not and overall the Noctuas do not have any hum or other noises across the full fan RPM curve), and plug into the mobo,
Option A - Using the existing LF II 360s wiring from the fans to the AIO which goes to pump and that whole thing controls the entire AIO is that a good method ?
Option B - Or Should I route them separately ? but in this case I cannot even load all 3 because no splitters available for Noctua which can take 3x fans and more over only AIO header will take all 3 as loading more fans will cause overload on any other mobo fan header due to high wattage.
Thanks for your time.
P.S - Found this thread for some basic info, https://www.overclock.net/threads/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-is-it-possible-to-replace-the-fans.1751708/
Hi bro Ashtrix. Forget use an air cooler.
Regarding the fans for the AIO. I have replaced them with better fans who is directly connected to the MB. I have the Corsair chassis aka have the Corsair commander center. But I don't use it. I prefer manual or tuned fans from the MB. And if you want the fans connected to the pump and you want to regulate the fans, the pump will be affected by this. Low fan speed means you'll force the pump to run at lower speed. Not adviced. The
fanpump need to run at max rated speed (but there is no noise run it this way).I have rolled up the original fan cable for the fans and stripped them / hidden them (having them still in there means I can sell this AIO complete kit with the original fans later). You could of course remove them totally if that is something you want/prefer. But don't connect much stronger fans on the same fan cable from the pump head if you want to swap out the weak fans for something better.
A new baby. GTX 480. The famous first gen Fermi. A nice hot running card. Once I boot up into Windows the GPU run 41C, LOOL
https://hwbot.org/submission/5021020_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_480_78798_marks
https://hwbot.org/submission/5020984_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_480_521326_marks
https://hwbot.org/submission/5021280_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_480_47390_marks?recalculate=true
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Ethereum Miners Spent $15 Billion on GPUs Alone During Latest Cryptocraze tomshardware.com
Based on data from JPR, desktop GPU sales totaled $51.8 billion for all of 2021. That was spread across the 49.021 million GPUs sold — a four-year high. As far as average pricing is concerned, we're talking about $1,056 per unit in 2021, which is about two times higher than the average price for a high-end graphics card in Q3 2019
Nonetheless, 14.2 million is significant given that we're talking about six quarters when Ethereum mining thrived. In fact, from Q4 2020 through Q1 2022, about 73.55 million desktop discrete GPUs shipped. Keeping in mind that nowadays the market of standalone GPUs splits roughly 50:50 between desktops and laptops, it looks like Ethereum might have consumed about 10% of the whole discrete GPU output from Q4 2020 to the end of Q1 2022.
The 10% help from the miners helped Nvidia and its partners maxing out profits (double up the MSRP). And Nvidia got the needed help raise the price point so they can make better profits for coming gen cards. We will see 🙂
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2 hours ago, electrosoft said:
Supply and Demand in full effect; Gigabyte 3090ti $500 off $1649:
3090 Ti should have been the 3090. Aka $1500 at release. Near two years old and soon replaced. $1600 is all too much for this #old# graphics card. Let Nvidia/and their partners learn how it feels to be screwed. No thanks!
See from 6:50.
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15 hours ago, Papusan said:
Maybe you rather want Intel's brand new Arc A-series GPUs? 😀 They should be a bit cheaper than the cards you'll get from Nvidia/AMD.
Scrap it bro @Mr. Fox. You should go for AMD😀
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On 6/13/2022 at 5:49 AM, Mr. Fox said:
It would have to be a pretty crazy price cut for it to not be really stupid to buy a new RTX 30-series GPU this close to 40-series launch.
Maybe you rather want Intel's brand new Arc A-series GPUs? 😀 They should be a bit cheaper than the cards you'll get from Nvidia/AMD.
Intel try follow Microsoft (new HW requirements for their new OS) and will help you to speed up your HW upgrade cycle. Isn't that sweet done of them?🙂 If you want the very best performance out from their new Arc Alchemist desktop GPUs, then you'll have to buy the newest and greatest platforms from Intel and AMD to be able to the get most out from your new Intel graphics cards purchase. This regardless if you buy their new low end or high end graphics cards models.
And you're forced to do a firmware update if you wish to run an Arc A-series GPU like the recently released A380 on a 10th Gen Intel platform. Nice.
Intel confirms Arc GPUs must have AMD SAM / PCIe Resizable BAR for "optimal" performance
https://www.neowin.net/news/intel-confirms-arc-gpus-must-have-amd-sam--pcie-resizable-bar-for-optimal-performance/Source: Intel
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On 6/12/2022 at 6:24 AM, raptorddd said:
thank you ill keep an eye on this thread.
i found a version history. found the preview but downloaded one that says out of band. not sure what this means. i didnt see it when i downloaded. so i runned windows update and wrote down the KB check KB number and it was the one before the outof band.
OOB patches is meant to fix own mess when they created the previous patch or fix new recently discovered security vulnerabilities.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tag/out-of-band/
bleepingcomputer.com is worth follow if you want latest news from Microsoft/windows.
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Winaero Tweaker 1.40 is here with new features and fixes
https://notebooktalk.net/topic/168-all-about-windows-11-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=8827-
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
in Desktop Hardware
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Nvidia’s greed have no limits. Yep, 4000 gen cards will show up later in the year but this is done to increase profits.
Another consideration in NVIDIA's decision is that the RTX 3080 Ti costs $1,089, leaving less room in the pricing range for the 12GB RTX 3080 to coexist with the Ti and 10GB variants. According to NVIDIA, this means that users may be enticed to pay more for an RTX 3080 Ti instead of a 10GB RTX 3080 because there are no 12GB options.
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-seems-to-halt-producing-the-12-gb-rtx-3080.html
i hope the market will be flooded with mining cards and that a lot people buy used than newer cards.
Foundry TSMC states prices of graphics cards and processors will increase by 9%
PC component prices are returning to normal now that the epidemic and crypto meltdown have passed, but it does not appear that this will be a sure thing in the near future. The cost of graphics cards and processors might increase by up to 9 percent in 2023, according to TSMC.
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