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Back to flow rate and water pumps bro @Mr. Fox I tried reach out to Eddy Alphacool on Techpowerup forum as you can see in the link and pict. Wonder if I get an answer back. Or if he will disappear and never respond/reply back. Can you check how the tests was done and then compare the results and come with a final answer. The Thermaltake Pacific TF1 flow/thermal sensor was tested by Igorslab and he wasn't very pleased with the reliabilty on this version. But it can't be so bad that the results would be so very differnt as in the two tests. Something is very fishy. Either from Alphacool or the flow sensor results. Swiftech MCP-655 Laing/Xylem D5 pump results.... Alphacool VPP755 D5 pump results... Pump D5 vs VPP755 techpowerup forum https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/pump-d5-vs-vpp755.298154/post-4838796

From before AMD prioritized Ryzen chips over graphics due more profits from same silicon. So AMDs coming Radeon graphics cards has to be priced on a certain level to make it profitable. And newer AM5 motherboards will be damn expensive as well. And even worse in Europe due their massive love for taxes. At least DDR5 will stabilize at slightly lower prices than before. But a brand new AM5 platform will be expensive. This on top of the disgusting prices from Nvidia’s new gen graphics. It will be very expensive being an gamer kid. https://videocardz.com/newz/first-preorders-for-asus-x670-motherboards-now-available-in-europe-for-e510-to-e1475

This means a 16GB GeForce RTX 4080 AIB card will have an MSRP near or +1300$. Almost mining prices for a simple xx80 card. Thats perverse. I expect nvidia with this will try to grab more market shares for their own brand as Founders Edition cards. No in Hell the AIB partners is able to sell loads of new overpriced cards if the gamer kids can just grab it cheaper from Nvidia. Nvidia want to get rid of their partners and sell most cards themself.

Look at this... The cheaper RTX 4080 ($899) is a bit more modest, with 12GB of GDDR6X memory and a 2.31GHz base clock speed. Still, it promises more than twice the speed of its predecessor, and an upgraded 16GB RTX 4080 ($1,199) gives customers the best of both worlds. What do they compare the new scam with? 3070 Ti or 3080@12GB cards ? Will be fun to see if the new castrated 4080 will perform over the double vs 3080 performance. What's your guess on this? What Nvidia have done with the 4080 branding name is disgusting. Nothing different than what they did for the laptop-jockey's with Max-Q mobile graphics. RTX 40-series is much more expensive Now for some bad news. Worries about even-higher price points for the RTX 40-series proved accurate. The RTX 4090 starts at $1,599, a $99 premium over the RTX 3090. The 16GB GeForce RTX 4080 costs $1,199, the same price as the RTX 3080 Ti and an astonishing $400 more than the $700 RTX 3080. Finally, the mysterious 12GB RTX 4080 starts at $899, a $200 increase over its predecessor. 4080@16GB now with Ti prices is awful. And a real 4080 card at $1200 is disgusting. And the reason they added $100 for the 4090 was to make space for coming 4080 Ti (Super) cards). Hope AMD can do something with this.

Yep, And the focus is still on the Store and ads. This new OS refresh brings almost nothing. Microsoft launches Ads program in Microsoft Store as it passes 900 million users milestone Microsoft has launched the Microsoft Store Ads pilot program to give developers another way to deliver and promote their apps and games to customers with Windows 10 and 11 at the right time.

Look from 10:00 and you may see why bling bling is a bad thing for you 🙂 Do yoo like bling bling bro Fox in same way as me? DazMode have been in the cooling business a long time. And he also mean this modern fancy awful tech shouldn't be placed everywhere in your pc. I think he even hate it in same way as me, HaHa Yep,, he hate bling bling. From 19:40 No ligthts, period, LOOL

What if we come to the point that Microsoft will remove all reg-keys in the OS as well force the MB manufacturers to follow their strict rules in same way as Intel forced the MB manufacturers to lock out BCLK overclock for older non K processors. Everything is possible if we talk about Redmond idiots. And this below looks nice... From the comment section. A new task is needed for each new update, LOOL Yep, Newer has to be better, HaHa

You just have to love Microsoft and their newest OS... "It's worth noting that VBS is automatically disabled in Windows 10, which is why 11 is the only effected OS." Unfortunately, we do not know which specific Windows update initially caused all this mayhem. But when installed, the update automatically enables Microsoft's Virtualization-based Security (VBS) on Windows 11 systems. Microsoft calls this feature "Memory Integrity" in Windows 10 and 11's security app. Windows 11 Update Kills Undervolting and Overvolting on MSI Boards

Thank you 🙂 They have it here home. But at whopping... Then add shipping on top. So only 95$ here home. Yep, near 100$. Here's one more disgusting price... Only 18$ for a single fan power cable. And God forbid if you only order this one. You have to pay +7$ for shipping on top 🙂 Yep, only 25$ for a cable if you are in need for one. Hail Norway! We can talk about more disgusting while we are at it... Windows 11 Update Kills Undervolting and Overvolting on MSI Boards https://notebooktalk.net/topic/168-all-about-windows-11-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=13826

Bro Fox. What type/brand flow and temp sensor meter do you have for your pc's? Thanks. Igorslab have tested a couple of them and wasn't happy with the results (the results was all over the place - none of them was especially accurate). But he liked the newer Aqua Computer high flow NEXT.

September 13, 2022—KB5017308 (OS Build 19044.2006) 2021 LTSC Manual download: 19044.2006 — KB5017308 September 13, 2022-KB5017022 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 20H2, Windows 10 Version 21H1, and Windows 10 Version 21H2 NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/08/windows10.0-kb5017022-x64-ndp48_ad405b6a81668b45dc4421e154a87ac9023517b5.msu September 13, 2022-KB5017025 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10, version 20H2, Windows 10 Version 21H1, and Windows 10 Version 21H2 NDP35-481 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/08/windows10.0-kb5017025-x64-ndp481_1a9b739f02ed24beabaaf8fada05a59694efa4e4.msu @raptorddd You need to find out if others have same/similar problems on the web. I haven't seen bugs like this mentioned on the net. And major bugs will be posted normally within 1 week on the different tech sites.

September 13, 2022—KB5017315 (OS Build 17763.3406) 2019 LTSC Prerequisite: You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU. Manual download: CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3406 — KB5017315 September 13, 2022-KB5017528 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019 NDP35-472 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016713-x64_06795712a9bf5515c671e4f56f41e17b5a77dae5.msu NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016593-x64-ndp48_f15bf28d962e2f33576842131f6b6ce38a455d78.msu

For the first time I have put the build as it is meant t o be on thew web ...Kill me.... But I still want black bro. Probbly not what bro @Talon. But BLACK sorry I havent the data now.-...... But 1/4th lower flow rate sucks. And high pressure (4.0 vs 3.9 real D5 pump) is worthless vs 4 times higher flow. High flow beat high presssure any day.

What next? Will we now all be flooded with graphics cards similar as for the laptop Jockey*s ? Best advice... As usual... Wait for proper reviews. And one review ain't enough. Do your Due dilligence. Awesome is soon DEAD!!! Being in desktop land ain’t any different than living in Jokebook- land. What with unlocked vBios? Maybe HOF will continue offer it... Only for a very few fab benchers/or some chosen ones and not for the ordinary graphics cards buyers. The usual from HOF. Just lovely. And this great news will cost Nvidia a lot (same for AMD). A Flooded market with loads used cards (miners bought 35% of all cards from Nvidia) and people have less to spend for coming new tech. Hope Jensen will love it... Greed will always lose. Or will it win? GPU Mining No Longer Profitable After Ethereum Merge Nvidia now....

The Alphacool D5 (fake) pump have 360 L/h flow rate (D5 have 1500 L/h at specs) at default max speed. I have added an 480 mm rad on top for that pump. I expect the default flow rate will sink as a stone. See review of the XPS heatsink and the pump results.... https://www.enostech.com/alphacool-eisblock-xpx-aurora-edge-acrylic-digital-rgb-cpu-water-block-review/ Alphacool Eisbecher D5 – Thermaltake Pacific TF1 – Alphacool Eisbecher D5 The flow rate was taken after 5 minutes of running the loop. The flow rate came to 268 L/h which is quite low given that VPP775 is rated for up to 360 L/h at full speed. We then introduced the block in the loop and repeat the test. The order was: Alphacool Eisbecher D5 – Alphacool Eisblock XPX AURORA Edge – Thermaltake Pacific TF1 – Alphacool Eisbecher D5 The flow rate was once again taken after 5 minutes of the loop running. The flow rate came to 176 L/h which shows the restrictive design of the block. With minor changes going from the XPX block to Ek block I can't put all the blame on the block. I wonder how much more restricted the flow will be with an second 480 mm as I already have added to the so called 350 L/h pump. Edit............. I think the EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 200 D5 PWM D-RGB - Acetal is the only option we have here home for sale (order outside Norway and add up to 35% on top). And the EK D5 pump (1500 L/h) from EK is verified to be geniune pump from the pump manufacturer. No real/genuine D5 pump offer 1/4 of the capacity as 350 L/h spec. What other options do I have? Not by much. There have to be something else. See post above. 52/45/42@stock voltage in CBR23 and around 70-72C 53/45/42@stock voltage in CBR23 and around 85C@311W I really hate the mounting. And it's a lot worse if you have a huge chassis (difficult to mount on both side at same time without help). And the block is huge and heavy. Re-paste with this new block is an awful task. Edit. Found a review of the EK block on Overclocking.com https://en.overclocking.com/labo-waterblock-ek-quantum-velocity²/ Tried compare the results (score and temps)... My higher score is maybe because I run with higher cashe or baby cores vs reviewers on OC.com. But the temps ain't very different.

More pict of the crocks bro @electrosoft🙃 What a heavy baby. Slightly below 1.3 kg. And the Alphacool XPX block clocking in at wimpy 0.350 kg. And this with an heavier steel backplate for the XPS block vs the lighter alu backplate from EK. But what a stupid block design from EK. You need to be born as an Vishnu or being married. Two hands ain't enough to mount this fully metal baby in your chassis. This block is meant to be mounted on the MB before you put it into your chassis. Yep, damn stupid design from EK.

Same performance… Nope. Less cores as well on the Max-Q version. And slower vRam and lower TGP. Ala fully castrated. Put it the other way… Desktop cards as the weakest 4080 of those two should be branded Max-Q in same way as Nvidia did nfor the older gen Mobile graphics cards. Nvidia finally gave the desktop buyers same nice graphics options as laptop-jockey’s now. And I don’t joke about this🙂 Isn’t it nice… That Nvidia will treat all types gamers exactly the same way?

3DMARK FIRESTRIKE total score is mostly about graphics score. Rather cripple the Cpu speed and put more works into the graphics (run the GPU at lowest possible temp and give it most of the power headroom). Give a huge thanks to Nvidia and the laptop OEMs for destroying own products. And a good advice... Use NVCleanstall for fast driver installs and test out different drivers for your graphics card. Some drivers will give you a slightly better results. A lot drivers to test for your card. Test and test bro Ryan. Don't give up. And only install the bare minimum from the graphics driver package. For the testing you don't even not need to run DDU in between the different drivers and tests. Only do that for final install. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is just disgusting.... 4080 with two different die's. https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-rtx-4080-16gb-12gb-max-tgp-and-gpu-clocks-specs-have-been-leaked And yep.... Nvidia will give almost the same love for the 4090 as they did for 3090. Edit. Maybe Nvidia and AMD still have some hopes. Or maybe they have invested some money to help the miners to keep up maximum profits… https://wccftech.com/bad-news-gamers-ethereum-mining-is-not-going-away-not-yet-at-least/ When it rains on the priest, it drips on the bell ringer. https://no.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/når_det_regner_på_presten,_drypper_det_på_klokkeren

Change lights settings in the house/room and the whole will look much better. And cheaper than replacing parts, LOOL

Maybe Intel saw what AMD offered.... There is no competition. They coperate on where the price point has to be put. If there was real competition, Intel would never release a re-hashed Intel chips from last year in their new 13th series line-up. Maybe good enough because what AMD will offer in the low end. Aka nothing. Intel confirms Core i5-13600 CPU and below are based on Alder Lake die https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-core-i5-13600-cpu-and-below-are-based-on-alder-lake-die Intel Price Hike To Affect Upcoming CPUs, Motherboard Chipsets & Other Components In Q4, Up To 20% Increase I'm sure the Red boys and girls will say 100C ain't dangerous and is just fine. And 110W is better than +200w chips from Intel 🙃 AMD Ryzen 5 7600X CPU Operates at 5.45 GHz With Up To 92C Temps at Stock, 110W Package Power Rating Finally below 19 sec in Y-cruncher Pi-1B 🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5077444_papusan_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i9_12900k_(8p)_18sec_995ms?recalculate=true

I despises Pcworld's main editors taste for modern/todays tech, but he hit the nail on the head on this one. Steve has to please all his audience on his Youtube channel. Maybe the reason he land on the opposite side of the fense. Sometimes you just can't please all... Gordon thinks small form factor PCs suck. Does Gamers Nexus agree? SFF builds are terrible, according to Gordon Ung. Steve from GamersNexus says they're great. Who's right? https://www.pcworld.com/article/1064364/small-form-factor-pcs-suck-and-gordons-tired-of-pretending-they-dont.html

This new move doesn't make Norton as a option. What will they do next? NortonLifeLock to End Antivirus Crypto-Mining Due to Ethereum Merge 1 The company will disable the function on Sept. 14, the day before the scheduled Ethereum merge. However, the decision to offer the miner over the antivirus programs received some backlash from consumers and security experts over concerns the company was saddling users with non-removable bloatware. In its defense, NortonLifeLock said the mining tool was opt-in only. Opt-in only doesn't matter. An antivirus software company should never ever have started with this in first place. ----------------------------------------------------------------- And here is HP's bloatware. New security flaw discovered in HP Support Assistant Included with HP computers, but also available as a standalone release for non-HP PCs that use the brand's peripherals such as scanners or printers, HP Support Assistant is vulnerable to DLL hijacking........

I have the full metal Apex backplate that replace Intel’s ILM plate. And from what I know the bending fix from Alphacool doesn’t help much on my block(even with adding the bending fix etc from Grizzly). Remember I also could run higher voltage vs temp before. It’s most likely the block I have. I just can’t wait 1 months for special parts that may not help. I need a another block. But only God know how a new block works on Raptor lake. The XPS blocks flatness is amazing but need perfect flat IHS. And the fin’s in the block may or may not be optimal for 13/14th gen (wrong desiged jet plate for newer gen chips). + it’s already confirmed that the XPS block has some very high flow restrictions. A very nice block if you svap out to different setups. Edit. Here's the QD fittings from AC. It seems restrictive for the water flow. I think the inner diameter is too small/cramped + the design for these QDC's will restrict the water flow more than from other higher premium QDC's. Removed the fittings from the tube. So no more chance to drain the loop in a proper way. Will get a drain plug instead for QDC fittings when I find out what type block I will go for ( much better solution). The last length of black tube went as replacement. Aka 1 cm tube left from the roll with the black variant 🙂 I have some lengtht of clear tubes but that would destroy the "all black" finish.

Yep, I know that the newer Corsair block is well suited for 12th gen due its cold plate. But who knows how it will do with 13th gen. And we have variances already today for IHS flatness/concave/convexity.

It’s the cheaper QD fitting from Alphacool. I’m sure it hamper the flow due it’s design. Dual pumps help massively on flow rate. Even 90 C degrees bends will hamper the water flow. Yep, much of the problem lies on the water block that’s not designed for newer processors. And Intel’s bending mess doesn’t make it any better. You even get variances on the flatness within several mountings.