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The score is awful from an brand new CPU arcitecture and 32 threads. And Intel don't do it any better with their 24 threads hybrid mess and baby cores. The performance stagnation is clear as a sunny day. This is awful. Core Ultra 9 285K should had HT with same IPC uplift. This is too small of a gain over current gen Raptor Lake (Refresh). But I expect everything is all about improved power efficiency and single core workflow. Intel really need to come back with either more P-cores or more threads. Because this is an miniscule performance uplift and just embarassing. . And the stated gaming performance just make it complete. Intel Core Ultra 9 285K CPU Is Up To 6% Faster at 250W Versus Core i9-14900KS At Extreme Mode

This one made my day😆 See bolded text. Maybe he should doing the same and start hunting after his brain? @Mr. Fox I have included some pictures and I will try to get this RMA'd. I personally don't like the way the cable sticks out so would it be beneficial to purchase another one of these? I know they had a recall for V1 & V1.1 but I don't even know the version I got.

Exactly what Intel wanted right before the release of 15th gen. So more good news for Intel and their upcoming power efficient gaming flop Core Ultra PROCESSORS. We are not talking about 15% lower gaming performance as Intel showcased, but +20% less gaming performance compared to their competitors GAMING CHIPS. Intel will regret the switch to TSMC tile mess if the performance differences is as big as these rumors say. Being behind by 30% in several games is not only sad, it is disgusting from a flagship product. And if this is the results to expcted then not be surprised if Intel make a copy-cat of AMD's X3D products early next year. Intel are already very close.... They already use TSMC and glued silicon. Add the v-cashe to the glued mess is what we will see next. Game over for Intel? Leaked X3D 'turbo mode' set to give Ryzen 9800X3D up to a 35% gaming boost

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A weird person but enjoy @Mr. Fox @ryan+++

Google going down the drain. And soon you'll see adblockers going away. Aka Google Chrome will be worse than ever. Soon time to go on and find something else. F... You Google.

I'll also try it. But not sure I will order on day one. I also have my older system (won't sell it on the used market before I see the new is better for my hobby). It will be exciting to see if anyone who prefer buy used is scared away by Intel's issues and instead go with the new one. We'll see. I won't sell the old if there is a shameful bid. Then I rather use it myself.

https://wccftech.com/intel-amd-testing-12v-2x6-power-connectors-for-next-gen-gpus/ Or https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-and-intel-test-12v-2x6-power-connectors-for-next-gen-gpus-but-most-prototypes-still-stick-to-standard-options The sad part... This is normal. Kids often do the same thing as they see from influencers stupidity. Even young adults can't to see they are tricked into "Stupidity" See also... Are we so stupid as humanity that we follow so called “influencers”? Why push AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D to end-of-life when AMD will continue support Ryzen 7 5700X3D and the 6-core 5600X3D ? This just follows the topic above. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D AM4 Processor Hits End-of-Life

Do they have another choice? Nope, because the PSU manufacturers cut down on 8-pin connectors. Remember newer modern motherboards will also use a single 8-pin connectors to power more peripherals. All to many new PSUs haven't enough 8 pin connectors anymore to power up the GPUs. Welcome to the future. Stupid is the new normal. Edit. See for yourself.... This is Asus ROG. Then count the 8-pin power connectors. Remember ROG is Asus flagship brand. And this is what you get🥴 Not a single available 8-pin to power the GPU. The final score rating should have been the half. And give this disgusting mess 99% for the "Features" is perverse. Tweaktown was all to kind giving this Asus failure a 95% rating. Sad seeing the average computer Joe being fooled this way. But it will be so when the tech press don't know how it is supoosed to be. Paid reviews is bad value but the lack of tech knowledge from the same audience (tech reviewers) is worse.

When highest possible performance come second or last. Intel really wanted to sell their new chips to Microsoft. Hence they traded performance for improved battery runtime to please Microsoft. And desktop users that wanted more performance have to pay the price. Aka they'll get mobile processors disguised as desktop CPUs. One fits all. Leak reveals Microsoft Surface Laptop 8 powered by Intel Lunar Lake processors In short, our recent Intel Lunar Lake analysis demonstrated that the Core Ultra 7 268V trades multi-core CPU performance for improved power efficiency and a much faster iGPU. Everthing is about laptops/tablets nowadays... Intel CEO Teases First Look At Upcoming Panther Lake CPU With Xe3 GPU Lenovo held its 2024 Tech World event this week and about midway through, Intel chief executive officer (CEO) Pat Gelsinger hopped on stage to discuss the artificial intelligence (AI) era, which he likened to being as disruptive as when the internet first burst onto the scene. "Just one more thing before I leave the stage," Gelsinger begins. "You know, we were working together on Meteor Lake, Lunar Lake and the Core Ultra PC—great battery life, CPU, GPU, NPU, but we're not done, are we? Edit.......

Any reason for this? Doesn't all voltage for DDR5 come from the dimm itself and not from the board? Why can't they offer support also with the older mem controller on 13th and especially 14th chips? DDR5 CUDIMM kits will require an Arrow Lake processor, and therefore the 15th GEN memory controller. And here is more from modern tech world... Flight Simulator 2024 consumes up to 180 Mbit/s of bandwidth In the alpha version, the game draws up to nine times more data than if you were to stream Netflix in 4K.

Nice. With vanilla DDR5 not much have changed vs older Raptor Lake. And people will get another security problem to handle. Aka the NPU (ticking bomb in all perspectives). New is always better🤮 I can clearly see why older 13th and 14th gen (from what I know) is keept out from supporting CUDIMMs. Because you need to offer something new, special and fancy to try sell the newest hardware. Edit. Not so sure this new features will help on the sales of Arrow lake processors. Gaming is still more important than any low end NPU (can't even tick Microsofts HW requirements for being copilot+ PC), the "recall" ticking bomb feature from Microsoft. And Intel offer less with the former. The trade is bad. For gamers and for those that seek much better (gaming)performance from "new has to be better". Intel's Arrow Lake official memory speeds are unchanged with standard memory sticks The Intel Core Ultra 200S (codenamed Arrow Lake) chip spec sheets note that their maximum JEDEC DRAM speed is DDR5-6400, allowing users to use faster memory speeds without overclocking. However, hardware leaker @harukaze5710 shared some documentation on X that showed that the chips supported the faster standard when using more expensive CUDIMM. Standard UDIMM sticks would be limited to DDR5-5600 unless you use XMP to overclock them. Intel releases NPU drivers with Arrow Lake support — AI PC users will have yet another component that may require regular updates If you own an "AI PC" from Intel or AMD, that means you have an onboard Neural Processing Unit (NPU) alongside your typical CPU cores and graphics. And if you weren't aware, it seems — at least for Intel NPUs — you'll have yet another driver to potentially update on a regular basis. Even if you don't bother with Windows' AI PC features, these driver updates include security fixes alongside fixing issues or adding features, so it's probably a good idea to be diligent with these updates. If you're using an Intel NPU on a Windows 10 PC rather than a Windows 11 PC, Intel also recommends that you outright disable the NPU within the BIOS rather than keeping it or its drivers enabled. What happens if you don't do this isn't clear (probably nothing for most situations), but leaving a potentially unusable NPU enabled could serve as a vector for attack or contribute to system instability.

LOOL. If Intel only keep LGA 1851 for one single gen chips they are soon digging their own grave. Smart people will never forget. They want something out from their money. Two gen chips on same socket is really bad and well known with Intel, but with only one chips before a needed MB change... Then it's no difference between BGA Jokebooks and desktops. And all know what I feel about soldered trashbooks. But I can clearly understand why Intel don't want go with an Arrow Lake Refresh when you see how it perform in games (worse gaming performance confirmed by Intel). Imagine an Arrow Lake refresh with more baby cores but offer same lackluster gaming performance from the P-cores. Even a possible 2 bin boost increase in clocks for the P-cores isn't enough. That will be RIP Intel. Leaked MSI slide mentions Arrow Lake Refresh — reignites hopes that LGA 1851 will last more than a single-generation Can Arrow Lake hold off AMD for 2 years? Nice. Even cooling parts can only be fully usedl for a single-gen processors nowadays. That match how Intel prefer it to be. The so called comptibility for next gen socket is almost dead. This is how modern works.... You already benchmark before the benchmark software have started.

Real/wold performance_ Maybe for single core tasks. This is on same level going from an 6700K to 7700K😎 Can barely beat 14th gen in compute tasks but lose in gaming. All left is slight advantage in Single threaded performance. Yup, I say single thread and not single core. Intel removed half of the treads for the Pcores to improve power efficiency. Aka half catrated. Its for a reason Intel still offer Pcores with HT for some newer server chips. They can afford that for the higher price point. And not let me start talk about AVX512. Intel killed that option after Rocket Lake. You need pay more and buy the more expensive Intel server chips for that. Regression all the way. Just look at the numbers. Outperform 9000 series Ryzen chips. This has to be a Joke. https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-claims-unlocked-core-ultra-9-285k-will-require-less-power-and-offer-lower-temps-than-i9-14900k And my 14900KS works just fine as day one. Here with GTX770 - 3DM 06 https://hwbot.org/submission/5666694_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_770_77342_marks?recalculate=true

Gamer kids buy it if it\s newer or more innovative than yesterdays tech. The tech space is flooded with overpriced junk. Just look at what Razer will offer the gaming community. One thing for sure... I\m 100% certain that bro @Rage Setwill stay away from their chairs.

Here\s an bad value from Razer. Overpriced Gaming chairs up to $1000 depending on the config. Disgusting.

Here\s a long list of overpriced junk from Razer you should avoid. I have only owned a mouse from Razer many years ago. That was my first and last purchase from razer.

A lot talk similar as my older post below. Castrated 14th gen vs new and shiny in games only benefit Intel and their new processor. Not sure this is legit or have latest firmware before release. But...... Take a look.

I forgot. Hwbot have it already listed... Geekbench - AI The good thing... Asus have already implemented NPU overclocking on their boards😎 Me using this... Nope. Yup, One click overclock. A must have I'm sure the kids already have the benchmark software in their tool box. They already use it for smartphones so the benchmark software should be well known Geekbench AI - Cross-Platform AI Benchmark Compare AI Performance Across Platforms Geekbench AI runs identical workloads on Android, iOS, Windows, macOS, and Linux. Our benchmark is built for hardware across the capability spectrum, whether you're testing a smartphone with an ultra-low-power NPU or a dedicated workstation with a kilowatt-plus of dedicated AI compute. Instantly compare results using our Geekbench AI results browser.

Look at this bro @Mr. Fox No MSI software can push older Lighning cards above 1.307 - You need custom HOF_NVVDD XOC tool to go above that stupid voltage limits. Sad seeing MSI only care about own in-house overclockers/choosen ones and provide them with custom Afterburner Extreme that no others can have. Disgusting! Oh'well. Galax own XOC tool to rescue😀 And even today, people have to rely on Galax for modern graphics cards. Isn't that sad? No one of the AIB bother offer awesome nowadays. Everything is heavly screwed up. And don't put all blame on Nvidia... The AIB partners is equal bad and could have done as Galax. If needed, just hide any HW mods/tweaks on the PCB from nvidia's sticky nasty fingers. Yup, the old custom HOF XOC tool works just fine with the old MSI card😊 And you have enough voltage headroom on the slider to easly fry the card. https://hwbot.org/submission/5665738_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___1b_geforce_gtx_770_38sec_508ms/ https://hwbot.org/submission/5665846_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_770_64647_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5665803_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_770_9868_marks?recalculate=true

New report warns of smart TVs: 'A Trojan horse' TV 2024-10-08 Connected TVs and streaming sticks have become a "privacy nightmare", according to the American Center for Digital Democracy. Now CDD has sent letters to several American authorities where they call for stronger regulation of how data may be collected and used in the CTV industry.

Yeees. Stick it where......... How long will Intel support older processors for modern games? Damn sad we now need software to make the hardware work as intended. You should never need special software to get what to expect from your processor. Yup, the "hybrid mess" with baby cores with another arch show its ugly nature. Intel APO Now Available In 26 Games: Faster Performance On Core Ultra 200S & 14th Gen CPUs GTX770 https://hwbot.org/submission/5664915_papusan_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_gtx_770_1778_points?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5664869_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___1b_geforce_gtx_770_39sec_201ms/ Seems the secret sauce don't work so well with the non K chips. Hmmm. Could be lack of tested chips or ASRock used Top binned K chips for their mem OC claims. ASRock lists Core Ultra 200 non-K CPUs with slower DDR5 memory support than K-Series Typically, slower memory support is expected on budget-oriented motherboard designs, such as the B860 series, though these have not been announced yet. In this case, we’re looking at the Z890 Taichi, a premium enthusiast board that includes all of ASRock’s latest features for the LGA-1851 platform, such as the Memory OC Shield. This makes the memory disparity between K and non-K models even more surprising, given the highend nature of the Z890 Taichi. And Intels brand new Core Ultra hybrid processors is even worse at gaming... Yup, it's called progress forwards. Or better say backwards into the future. Leak indicates AMD Ryzen 9000X3D series CPU gaming performance will disappoint

Tempting bro @Mr. Fox? More overclocking features/toggles with the Intel's "Ryzen version" from TSMC (glued mess). When will we get NPU overclocking benchmarks on hwbot?🙄 MSI Enhances Motherboard AI Capabilities with AI Boost Feature in Z890 and X870 Series MSI details exclusive 'AI Boost' feature that overclocks the NPU for a performance boost tweaktown.com The secret sauce... ASRock's new generation Z890 series has added the new "Memory OC Shield" memory shielding technology, making this generation of motherboards significantly ahead of the competition in terms of memory performance The Memory OC Shield is much talked about since the manufacturers announce the support of DDR5 frequency up to 9600 MT/s and ASRock, 10133 MT/s. According to our colleagues at HKEPC , the ASRock team with the help of the in-house overclocker , NickShih, have developed a special material to cover the memory line of the motherboard, thus considerably improving the overclocking performance and the stability of the memory. https://overclocking.com/asrock-z890-taichi-ocf-memory-oc-shield/ ASRock Z890 motherboard’s exclusive patented Memory OC Shield breaks through D5-10133 According to Nick Shih, after adding Memory OC Shield shielding material, the DDR5 memory clock speed of the entire ASRock Z890 series of motherboards has been significantly improved. Even if a CPU with poor IMC is used, it can run stably at high temperatures at a lower IMC voltage. clock, greatly improving the memory compatibility of the motherboard.