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Here's latest tests from Igorslab. 10 CPU water blocks on socket LGA1700 and AM5 in the test - roundup including the necessary workup And as you can see from the review/testing... They all contain one or another flaw, bad quality or/and bad engineering. They all just cut costs where they can. And they all do it. You pay premium but you'll never get the best from any company. Maxed profits will always beat common sense/better quality 😞

Only the vanilla AMD Ryzen chips. On top AMD have reduced Max. Operating Temperature (Tjmax) below 90C for their gamer-Cpu's to save the added v-cache so it won't be fried (Not nice see crying gamer-boys). As well reduced max boost clocks. Todays word has to be "fragile or castrated"😁 AMD Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs Don't Feature Manual overclicking...

This also apply to Windows 10 users.... Loads of people are damn stupid. They think newer has to be better. Some even click the update button everyday, even several times a day to see if there is something newer aka better coming from Microsoft. Please tell me whats wrong with some people bro @ryan Microsoft confirms recent Windows security update breaks VPNs, no fix yet

Loads of people are damn stupid. They think the newer has to be better. Some even click the update button everyday to see if there is something newer aka better coming from Microsoft @ryan Microsoft confirms issues in Windows 11 KB5036980 Mayank Parmar - April 28, 20240 Some users who have installed the Windows 11 KB5036980 optional update have been facing new problems. Microsoft has acknowledged the reports and confirmed the issues. In a Feedback Hub post first spotted by Windows Latest, several users complained that they’re getting 0x80070520 error messages when they try to change their account profile picture. The error is mostly experienced on devices with a local account only, which means you won’t run into it if you use a Microsoft account. It’s worth noting that KB5036980 is an optional cumulative ‘preview’ update, which means it won’t download or install automatically unless you manually go to Settings and click “Download & Install” under the update...... See also my reply on top with the bolded text.

From what I have seen with AMD.... This company isn't for me and my hobby. They offer very good gamer chips with the X3D Ryzen chips. But locked down Cpu's is equal disgusting as the Tax regime in Norway. Brand their locked down X3D gamer-boy chips with the X is awful and meaningless. Nope... I'd rather play with my older stuff if the new stuff are crippled right out from the factory.

Yup. And Intel can't even make ready own flagship processors from own foundry. And wee all know how bad processors oc with TSMC silicon. If this is correct I can't see Intel will survive i the long term. Why buy Intel if you can get exactly same from AMD but with minor changes in arc for a lower price? Interestingly, all SKUs formerly classified as high-end Core i5K/i9K (henceforth Core Ultra 7/9) are said to be based on TSMC 's 3nm process . The use of the Intel 20A process is limited to the mid-range Core , previously named i5 non-K The first details on a Core i5-15400F (Core Ultra 5 240F)

From latest Igorslab article from today.... Well, and then the Ryzen effect just mentioned came into play and with it the energetic Intel pressure refueling. Good old foie gras sends its regards. But it must also be emphasized at this point that arguing solely with the PL2 for the baseline is still far too nebulous. By the way, the baseline for the PL2 was 188 watts until October 2022, i.e. the launch of Raptor Lake. And that's exactly where Gigabyte has corrected this value again with its current BIOS https://www.igorslab.de/bruchlandungbmit-ansage-intel-malt-sich-die-specs-wie-man-es-gerade-braucht-und-missachtet-seine-eigenen-vorgaben/ Intel swims into problems. They make weird changes and choices all time now. There is no consistency in what they do inhouse. Sad seeing the old blue digging their own grave. And the Red side isn't an option. We live in sad times. The more we spend the less we'll get back. Is less more? The Apple way? 🤮🤢🤮 LOOL My newer shoes is better than my old shoes. So new has tho be better?😁 Not always bro @ryan. Because the old and the new shoes is exactly the same OLD designed model😆

That's great. Thanks for the heads up. Still a idiotic move by Intel add even more capacitors around the IHS. The sTim breaking point from the die is harder done on the lengthwise direction. A bigger chance to cut the die in half. The old tools works better. And for EK, they use trashy quality for the metal. Newer doesn't always mean better bro @ryan🤔

If Intel will add capacitors on both side of the IHS for next gen then you have only one option... Delidd from the total opposite side vs before. That will be fun and I expect we will see loads of killed die's. With all the focus on direct die cooling from some companies as etc EK Intel just can't make their Cpu's this way. But should Intel bother with it? Not if they try go for new world records. Because LN2 benchers don't delidde their Cpu's. There is absolutely no room for delidding the IHS the ordinary way. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-arrow-lake-cpus-spotted-selling-14-dont-buy-one

Exposing Corruption: EK's Prison Threats, Lawsuits, Dangerous Workplace, & Leaked Documents Conclusion: EK Has Lost It The leadership of this company is so out of touch that how this will end is uncertain. They need new peps on the top. But will the leaders that destroying this company step down and let more competent people lead the sinking ship? Hmmm, will see.

Exactly. Many debloat the OS so heavly that a normal vanilla Windows OS can perform better or equal. Quite a few people tink a tiny OS will perform much better than a non bloated OS because of the minimum of OS services running in the background... Thats wrong. You risk diminishing returns. I have already touched that topic with bro @jaybee83 a few months ago. When you shave you... You don't cut of your skin🙂 Only Microsoft knows exactly which services/tasks in the operating system are dependent on each other to perform perfect. A minor change and you risk screw up your OS performance. Can be tiny change but it can or will effect the performance in a bad way. Windows has become more of a mess. Old code paired with new one, code implemented for future features (you are the guinea pig for testing stability for the next OS moment features) but not in use... And with changes from sec/feature patch updates from one month to the next. Then back and forth... It kills the fun tinkering with OS. 3DMark11 Physics - 42547 Points - Core i9 14900KS (8P) @ 6262MHz https://hwbot.org/submission/5546633_papusan_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_14900ks_(8p)_42547_points 3DMark11 Physics - 43059 Points - Core i9 14900KS @ 6262MHz https://hwbot.org/submission/5546792_papusan_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_14900ks_43059_points/ When bigger numbers is more important than the real performance. @ryan is less more or is more less?😎 Thanks for the heads up 🙂

GTX 1070 - 3DM FIRE STRIKE https://hwbot.org/submission/5546761_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_1070_22086_marks/ GTX 1070 - 3DM CLOUD GATE https://hwbot.org/submission/5546784_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_1070_82921_marks/ GTX 1070 - 3DM FIRE STRIKE (GPU) https://hwbot.org/submission/5546773_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_1070_22622_marks/ GTX 1070 - FIRE STRIKE EXTREME https://hwbot.org/submission/5546771_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_10521_marks/

The blue rabbit has come out from the hole. But not official. The MB manufacturers and Microsoft is to blame for the Cpu crashes. Do not use etc... Windows Ultimate Performance mode in the OS. Is this meant as a joke? They don't like other power profiles than balanced for Jokebooks? Hmmm, maybe Intel will ask Microsoft kindly to remove any reg keys/or options that allow High performance power plans being enabled in the OS. Wouldn't that be nice?🤮🤢🤮 Intel releases “13th and 14th Generation K SKU Processor Instability Issue Update” https://www.igorslab.de/intel-veroeffentlicht-das-13th-and-14th-generation-k-sku-processor-instability-issue-update/

Probably from tuned AC/DC values that match their test sample. In short random numbers they found appropriate or from their old documents before Intel nailed the specs for 12th gen. But it seems Gigabytes fix for the crashes (still in minority vs sold processors) is the worst from them all. Can't fix stupid. Add PL1 at 125W is just dumb. The closest I could find the random number 188W is from an older article from Igors lab. https://www.igorslab.de/en/power-consumption-and-load-peaks-intels-coming-alder-lake-s-and-raptor-lake-s-cpus-in-comparison-exclusively/3/ The world is very small bro @Meaker🙂 Yes, bro Fox. I won't apply it. You don't grab many boints or trophies with heavly castrated tools. Gigabyte want that you run your overpriced 13900K(KS) worse than any i7-13700K. That's perverse. GTX1070 - 3DM Vantage (X-treme). https://hwbot.org/submission/5545810_papusan_3dmark_vantage___extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_55901_marks?recalculate=true 3DM Vantage (Performance). https://hwbot.org/submission/5545800_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_107619_marks?recalculate=true 3DM Vantage (GPU). https://hwbot.org/submission/5545802_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_1070_97878_marks?recalculate=true

Gigabyte Z790 “Intel Baseline” profile puts Core i9-13900KF (QS) CPU into Core i7 tier Nice. They all cripple the i9 processors now to stop the Cpu crashing due Intel trash binning. This time it's Gigabyte. April 26th, 2024 –GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY Co. Ltd, a leading manufacturer of motherboards, graphics cards, and hardware solutions, released the latest beta BIOS with Intel Baseline feature on Z790, B760 series motherboards for enhanced stability, regarding the feedback from Intel that high power consumption settings may cause system instability with 13/14th generation CPUs. High Power consumption come from all too high voltage fused into the chips to meat targeted max clock speed = Trash binned chips. I expect Intel will be very tight lipped now, as they seeing the MB manufacturers cripple the i9 down to i7 tier performance one after one after they pushed out new guidelines to stop the crashes. A official press release about the problem is a bad idea. It will damage the reputation even more. It's better let the MB manufacturers do the dirty work🤢 Superior Stability by GIGABYTE BETA BIOS with Intel Baseline on Z790/B760 Motherboards Gigabyte.com 2 months ago MSI bragged about their new OC experience with their coming bios. Now the gamers get i7 tier performance instead from their i9 processors. What a downturn. You just can't make proper bios profiles or optimize bios correctly if you only use top binned hardware in the development of the bios. And what with Intel... Did they also test hand picked CPU's then hoped everything was ok? MSI preparing 6.4 GHz overclocking profile for Intel Core i9...

Yup. The bin quality isn't good enough vs the targeted clock speed. Lower bin quality means you need more voltage and Intel can't fuse in whats needed for the advertised max clock speed. If they did, we would see even higher voltage than the trash bin we already have seen from 14900K/KS. Either they bin their chips properly or they have to lower the boost clock speed out of the box. Now its too late for this gen processors. You can't have it both. Pick your poison. All this is on Intel. A shortage of i9 processors is better than people get chips that can't run as expected. In short.... Feed more voltage and it will run more stable but at the cost of higher temps and throttling well below advertised clock speed. What he said.... If you take 20 random i9 processors then you can see 2 of them can't run Cinebench. Thats 10% failure rate. And the numbers could be even worse. Feed more voltage and it will throttle instead for crashing. I look fowards to what Intel will say... But maybe they swap the problem under the carpet and try bin the remaining chips slightly better so they don't crash out of the box. But no one will know for sure. This one is dedicated to the Time Spy jockey bro @ryan🤩 https://hwbot.org/submission/5545057_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_3749_marks?recalculate=true

Main problem. Intel haven't enough SKUs that should be labeled i9 K/KF or KS. That's the main reason we get a huge variety in the bin quality. From trash to a very few samples with good bin. Intel will never ever offer SP scores. Because they know their binning is only to max out profits from trash chips. Bin chips to reach max boost on two cores (then forget that they use hybrid tech with E-cores) is a failure. All P-cores should be able to reach max advertised boost clocks. Two best cores is an Joke. And they need to come back with xx850K/KF chips. The only solution so they can get rid of the trash. No point offer junk as xx900K/KF or KS flagship chips. That's a failure and the reason Intel now is on deep water (brand damage).

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See bolded text above. Then compare with the bolded text from MSI's Press release notes below.... Then you see the same as me. If there is a minority of i9 processors having all this stability problems... They are RMA candidates. They are defective! In short no need for any workarounds. Just RMA the processors back to the retail shop or Intel. No one should pay for defective Cpu's that don't work as intended/expected. MSI Offers BIOS Guide To Improve Gaming Stability With Intel 14th & 13th Gen CPUs [Press Release]: According to some reports, a minority of Intel Core i9-13900K and Core i9-14900K processors may experience instability while gaming or under heavy workloads. If you're encountering this issue, here are some workarounds recommended by Intel. Source: MSI

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https://hwbot.org/submission/5544212_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_core_i9_14900ks_(8p)_50sec_346ms GTX1070....... https://hwbot.org/submission/5544273_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_107206_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5544231_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_1070_211041_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5544256_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_30018_marks?recalculate=true Finally on 1th place Hwbot enthusiasts league 2024🙂

The snowball roll faster and faster... It will be tough to turn this around to what it was. Now it's up to the buyers trusting EK forwards. Former EKWB Employees say company has racist, hostile work environment, withholds overtime pay The scandal surrounding EKWB, the embattled cooling and custom PC building company, keeps growing as multiple former employees have now accused the company of creating a hostile work environment filled with racist jokes and abusive rhetoric in its Texas-based U.S. offices. Just as bad, the employees also say that the firm failed to pay them for required overtime hours and that it damaged relationships with suppliers by repeatedly withholding payments.

Exactly what the Windows users want. Yup, Microsoft deliver times after time🤮🤢🤮 People need to be desprate if they download latest optional offline installer. Want it bro @Mr. Fox? Ads will be the core feature in new modern Windows OS forwards. A must have........ Yup, sure. Now you see the main reason for the massive hate of customization software for your start menu. These software don't match Microsoft goal. Windows 11 KB5036980 turns on Start menu ads (direct download .msu) Windows 11 April 2024 optional update has been released. This update includes ads for third-party apps in the Start menu. Microsoft has provided direct download links for Windows 11 optional update offline installers (.msu) on its Update Catalog, in addition to the usual Windows Update. Microsoft pushed this update two weeks after introducing it via a Windows 11 Preview Build This wouldn't be the first time Microsoft embeds ads in its operating system. The company did similar promotions with the Windows 10 lock screen, mail app and Start menu. But it seems to be coming at the cost of not optimizing or improving user experience. A few days ago, its former developer criticized Windows 11's Start menu's performance issues on a system with an Intel Core i9 and 128GB RAM. While having certain features is nice for some users, one would not expect the performance and experience to be a trade-off.

EKWB issues public apology regarding delayed payments

If Intel had done their job properly, they should refused to launch 14900KS. Also the 14900K/KF is very questionable. If they have problem with the bin quality/yields..... And gamer kids get trash binned chips, their i9 processors will run hotter than normal/expected. In short if we OC our own chips we can easly make them unstable even with the best cooling if we push them too hard. Aka the oc'd cpu's will function/behave equally bad as a stock running i9 with unlocked MB settings in the hands of gamers with not the best cooling setup/not the best tech skills. A cpu should never crash... It should throttle down speed and voltage. This if the Cpu run stock clocks regardless of power settings. Every single core i9 crashing at stock clock speed are defective. I mean over half of the shipped 14th gen KS chips should have been binned as ordinary K chips. And 25-50% of all 14900K should have been downgraded to i9-14850K. The bin statistic we have seen for mentioned chips speaks for itself. EKWB issues public apology regarding delayed payments Also this a huge misssteps. It seems AMD refuse to compete. Or maybe the choice of vram is a cost cutting to the bone? Pick what poison you want. Leaker says AMD will use 'slow' 18Gbps GDDR6 in RDNA 4 GPUs It will be interesting to see what AMD does. AMD's decision to opt for GDDR6 will depend on how much memory bandwidth it needs, and how much money it can save on PCB designs by using the existing memory standard. The beefier a GPU's memory sub-system is, the more complex the PCB design needs to be.