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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
You saw the package power? He managed go down from 225w and +90C to sub 208W after the shaving and still +80C. I tested my sons setup with the 12900K... Around 80C with 280W load. And this with not the best wb as Alphacool XPX and fans tuned for less noise in the bios. He run default speed and the Cpu will never come above 65C in CBR-23 stress test. In games the Cpu max out around 52C. But the Cpu normally run well below 50C for his gaming. The Gpu is worse... In the small mid chassis the Gpu will run at around 65C due the heat dumped from the front rad. The pay of for the small form factor 🙂 +80C with 210W load is awful if he run with liquid metal and direct die regarless if the WB finish isn't finished. A undevolt to lower power below 210W would only cover the problem. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, I expect improvements. Regarding they use bios default for 12900K hence high temps the 13900K will run at higher watttage anyway🙂 The big question will be... How much will the direct die cooler provide vs... standard delidde and liquid metal. Theyt can claim better results. But not because of the new Direct die cooler😎 Me sceptical before the opposite be shown. And why not post results now? -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Intel 12900K Delid and Direct Die Cooling with EKWB (Pt.1) https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/james-dawson/intel-12900k-delid-and-direct-die-cooling-with-ekwb-pt-1/ Intel 12900K Delid and Direct Die Cooling with EKWB (Update) https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/james-dawson/intel-12900k-delid-and-direct-die-cooling-with-ekwb-update/ This doesn't bode well. I wonder how much they could fine tune the cooling performance with almost same parts. Yep, the video was almost wasted to look at. Most of the time we look on a Apple white box with some ugly pastel blue details. What a nice way to promote new cooling products. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, to an level. But at least EVGA, ASUS and MSI have a bigger part of the enthusiasts. This will make a bigger pressure on them to find a fix. Due high pressure... Nvidia had to back track the clock block in the drivers for JOKEBOOKS. Yes, bro Fox. Say the cards don't benefits from newest drivers for newer/coming games is just pure stupid. This to "don't bother" help own customers. And as I said... 980 Ti have still driver support from Nvidia and still is ok'ish for 1080p if you lower the eye candy settings that fits your need. No benefits from newer drivers may be correct most of the time, but this is not a good enough excuse to say you are...... Now you are alone (on your own) and we can't help you. Yep, I couldn't find something other that fits better. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I cheched my older downloads. The Firestorm OC software that the support suggested... I have already tried that version. And yep, same outcome. New has to be better? Screw you Nvidia and Zotac. Nvidia for crippling own products and Zotac for washing their hands. 'Pilate Washing his Hands' With the response I got from Zotac.... Just dream that I'll spend my money on a Zotac boat. Or any other new cards they will throw out. Can't blacklist Nvidia... Because their competitors sucks even more. Destroying own previous generation cards for more profits (try sell on you new products) is darn disgusting. My honest talk about Zotac. Just look above. No thanks. Save your hard earned money for something different my old friend. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Even better. Make a dual OS setup and test a couple of OS builds. @ryan need only 60GB for a second OS partition. Techpowerup have several 3DMark Suite versions for downloads. Click show older versions... Test with several versions (check date for your best scores and see if you find a version that match that date). Edit. You can even do that with your current OS (try with different 3Dmark versions). Same for Nvidia drivers. Futuremark 3DMark for Windows /Techpowerup -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I hope the results is better than the pre-production units. But I have my doubts until the opposite is showed. Todays tech isn't as good as you think it is. Often due cost cutting or bad engineering. EK needed 3rd gen socket 1700 chips to make it. And thats too bad for a well known cooling HW manufacturer as EK is. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Zotac support was fast. But they don't stand behind their products. Nvidia can do whatever they want. If you have previous gen gaming flagship you'll never know how it perform tomorrow. Imagine 4090 will be crippled in equal way to try sell next gen models. It may not play well in 4K but 1440P or in worst case 1080P with flying FPS and you'll benefits from the latest drivers for games that need newest drivers. Zotac think 980 Ti is useless for gaming with newest games that need driver optimazion from newest drivers. Yep, nvidia can cripple your nice/sweet +2000$ cards tomorrow if they wanted. And it seems pidge2k@ManuelGuzman (Nvidia support manager) avoid my PM. He have probably done his due dilligence and searched after my latest thread/posts about nvidia's disgusting new move. Next move will be posting a thread on Nvidia's own forum. But first I will reply back to Zotac support and ask why my GTX 980 Ti can't be useable in newer games with mid/low settings in 1080P. Aka gamers that will benefits from drivers newer than the 1 year old drivers that allow me to tune my 900 series nvidia "flagship" graphics card. Flagship have lost its meaning! Only a moniker to increase teh price point up to heaven. One of many reasons above (brands value). And why MSI never used a 600w vbios for their Water cooled flagship cards just show how retarded they are. I have neever been keen in MSI. And the price difference isn't very big. And I wasn't impressed with the Liquid X either. Aka my same experience as with previous gen MSI cards. I still think Asus offer a bit more than the others. I always look on it in a historical picture. And aftermarket value. The only cards I really wanted from MSI was their "Lighning" graphics cards. Edit. For the records... The Zotac 4090 boat is often more expensive when they drop into the shops here. And this card have a lower MSRP in first place. DIRECT DIE COOLING FOR THE INTEL 12TH AND 13TH-GEN CORE SERIES CPUS EK®, the premium liquid cooling hardware manufacturer, is launching the Direct Die product series aimed at delidding and achieving the ultimate cooling of the LGA 1700 socket-based Intel® CPUs from the 12th generation Alder Lake and 13th gen Raptor Lake families. EK-Quantum Velocity² Direct Die D-RGB – 1700 Limited Edition 349.90€ = $379.66 EK-Quantum Velocity² IHS Removal Tool – 1700 74.90€ = $81.27 EK-Quantum Velocity² Direct Die D-RGB – 1700 Nickel + Plexi 199.90€ = $216.87 EK-Quantum Velocity² Direct Die – 1700 Upgrade Kit 109.90€ = $119.23 If you live in a tax hell. Add minimum +25% on top. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
LOOOL. AMD will offer an fully locked down Ryzen Zen4 8P & 8E-core CPU on Valentine's day, LOOOL From 16:05 Edit: I'll now see how good Zotac tech support works. To see if they stand behind their products. New or older shouldn't matter. I hope this is good enough so they are able to understand the problem. -
Todays Win 11 news. Windows 11: a mistake? A huge yees. Microsoft making new reminders to push OneDrive upgrades on Windows 11 neowin.com · 2 hours ago 2 Microsoft is adding new and updated alert messages to remind users about their for OneDrive subscription quota upgrades. The new message has been spotted in the Dev channel, though it is hidden. And more of the Ugly Rounded corners on the horizon... How to get rid of it here. Windows 11 KB5022364 (22H2) preview comes with more rounded corners Mayank Parmar - January 7, 2023 Windows 11 KB5022364 (version 22H2) update is now available for testers in the Beta Channel, and it comes with a couple of noticeable improvements. For example, Microsoft is bringing more rounded corners to the new and flawed.....
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
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If there was a LGA socket in the chassis they would make it thicker for the socket and IHS. This would also benefits the GPU. Bigger HS cooler fin stack = More cooling capacity.
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, either the Strix 4090 OC or Suprim X. We can't buy 4090 FE here home. Nvidia have partners in Norway, but none of they offer it. And Galax is out of questinon. Even if you manage to buy it in a store, you won't get same treatments (their OC software/firmware) as their in-house benchers or the "few worthy" one. So thats that. Only two choices I want. And all here home want the same cards, LOOL No problem get 4000 series cards (a lot of them), but then you have to jump on the brand or model you "don't want". I mean whatever 4090. We have the 4090 Suprim X in the stores here home, but I'm not that keen on a new MSI card. They are even cheaper. From the 4090 Fe review here in Norway... In English. Nvidia's own Founders Edition is unlikely to come to Norway. Instead, we get a number of partner models from manufacturers such as Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac and the rest. However, performance and other characteristics should be very similar. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I still wait for the Strix 4090 OC. I'm on the notify list but how many is in front of me🤔 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Two X (times) retarded today... Or 2X Stupid. Why such a awkward/stupid comparisajon? 4080 ain't worth a dime/cent above $800. They compare two totally digfferent SKUs. One is overpriced with +70%. Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 vs. RTX 4080: Which 4K GPU should you buy? pcworld.com The RTX 4080’s atrocious price makes the RTX 4090 truly seem like a much better option, with the least compromises. Hats off to you, GeForce RTX 4090, our winner! And Corsair try a new design change. Offer ATX 3.0 certification but come with an adapter for the 12VHPWR plug. We are in 2023.. Not in 2020. I wonder who this PSU is meant for. Why scrap a real 12VHPWR plug on a brand new ATX 3.0 certified PSU? Corsair Shifts Power Connectors Placement On Its SHIFT PSU Lineup, Easy Cable Management https://wccftech.com/corsair-shifts-power-connectors-placement-on-its-shift-psu-lineup-easy-cable-management/ -
0patch offers two more years of updates for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 techspot.com The company has already promised "two more years" of critical security patches for the Windows 7 codebase, extending the support period "at least" until January 2025 with a possible further extension dependent on client demand. https://blog.0patch.com/2022/10/two-more-years-of-critical-security.html Two More Years of Critical Security Patches for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Extended Security Updates about to be terminated? Don't worry, we have your back.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Intel show of their brand new 13900KS. And yep, they don't even use latest version of XTU and on top the awful INTEL software is equal bugged with the new and shiny on their test platform, LOOL What the Intel guy really show is 0.00GHz out of the box, HaHa Intel shows off Core i9-13900KS CPU running 6 GHz out of the box videocardz.com -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Its all about QC and QM. And AMD have failed 3 times in a row the last 2 months (Bad drivers, flawed/defective heatsink and the last one was bad firmware). Now the 4th problem with dying cards. Vapor gate and failure of the entire quality management? Background to the cooler problem of the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (MBA) January 10, 2023 Igor Wallosek -
You're sure you aren't tempted bro Fox😀 You don't have to go with massiveluy overpriced 4000 series mobile graphics cards. We need more ALL-AMD gaming notebooks! - Alienware M17 Review Teaser...
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Only $1,812 US Dollar for the GPU upgrade from Nvidia 4060 and up to 4090. Ready with the money bro @Mr. Fox? What is the tragic with all this? The whole laptop package or Nvidia? Or can it be both? XMG laptop with GeForce RTX 4090 GPU to cost €1,687 more than RTX 4060 system Mobile RTX 40 GPU pricing just as bad as desktop... XMG to charge €1,687 more for GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU spec.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, it seems nvidias nasty disgusting trickery with older cards that "still have driver support" ain't very intersting for the gamer kids. None reply on my nice new thread. I wonder if they will start cry in anger on the web or to mama when Nvidia also will do the same and kill of voltage tuning for their new and shiny +1000$ graphics cards. Exactly in the same way as Nvidia did for Maxwell and GTX980Ti. I pinged an PM to pidge2k@ManuelGuzman. I said I have problem with my 980Ti and newer nvidia drivers and asked him for help. I didn't mention about the real reason for help. We'll see if he pm me back. Yep, I will ask him directly why Nvidia killed voltage adjustments for Maxwell's GPU flagship (980Ti). I will ask if this is an ongoing bug or if this was intended. If he say it was intended and we (nvidia) can do nothing about it... Then I will ask him when Nvidia will do the same for Pascal, Turing, Ampere and ADA graphics cards. Yep, I can use older drivers, but remove features they offer for newer cards (Maxwell have still driver support) is damn retarded and should never happen in first place. Period! Edit. I can see that Nvidia also blocked voltage control for GTX960 with same driver 516.40 This showed up in Nvidia's feedback thread for 516.40 https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/494630/geforce-grd-51640-feedback-thread-released-61522/3258957/ One single soule complained about this in the feedback thread at Nvidia. Yep, one single person. If not more people enjoy tuning/overclock their cards, then I can clearly understand why Nvidia castrate new and older graphics cards. No one bother. They are happy with what they get. Castrated, overpriced or awful value doesn't matter @Mr. Fox Btw. Nice paying massive premium for Galax HOF cards and all you get is the middle finger if you nicely ask Galax support. You aren't worthy our time. You have to beg others (those worthy benchers) to get whats needed.... Not the first time I see such askings. Brag about world records to increase sales thats ok, but the few "not worthy" that can snag a HOF card will be screwed. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
But it neeed to be in "All Black" and not in modern nasty pastel/glossy fancy colors. All black bro electro😎 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, it looks like full havoc at AMDs HQ right now. Where is their QC? Do they also outsource own firmware and QC? Perhaps outsourced to Microsoft?😀 Latest AMD AGESA Firmware Inadvertently Disables Cores On Some Ryzen 5 7600X CPUs Affected Ryzen 5 7600X chips lose significant performance. -
Nothing more special than their usual workmanship... You just can't trust that AMD will make your life easier at desktop. Latest AMD AGESA Firmware Inadvertently Disables Cores On Some Ryzen 5 7600X CPUs Affected Ryzen 5 7600X chips lose significant performance. The flawed firmware doesn't affect all Ryzen 5 7600X, one of the best CPUs. It only impacts the samples that leverage a dual-CCD design. A fix is reportedly on the way, and the new firmware should arrive in the next couple of weeks. If AMD can't fix own shit... How can Microsoft make the new X3D chips work properly with Windows and dual CCD design?