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Thanks, bro John. I mean have found the problem. Haven't started up the machine yet, but have troubleshooted the power from the PSU cables. With the Corsair iCUE Com PRO Smart RGB Lighting and Fan Speed Controller connected to the PSU, this will shorts the power. Aka the PSU protection turn of the PSU with Corsair junk connected to the sata connector. I will connect up all the MB connectors and try start it up later this evening. So not the MB or PSU. Just the cheapo plastic box for the bling bling from Corsair. And I don't even use that thingy for fans.

Still a no go. Tried two - tree times. If the CMOS battery is dead and this affect the boot process, shouldn't I have seen any signs of life in the Q-code display or Q-LED indicators when I power on the pc? Nothing show up in there when I try turn on the machine (after disconnecting the power from the wall and PSU button off). Absolutely no action or lights in the Q-code display or Q-LED indicators. Only the argb bling bling lights on the MB/memory sticks show up, and short brief fan spintup before everyting go back to death. In short... The mb get power to turn on the lights but not enough to turn on the Q-code display or Q-LED indicators start lights up when you click the start button. Did you even see any signs of life from the Q-code display or Q-LED indicators? Everything is damn dead when I try turn on the startup button. Only those disgusting ARGB lights Asus throw all over the place on the MB.

As I already have wrote about. I only turned off the psu button and disconnected the PSU cable from the wall. Then removed the two PCIe cables on the old graphic card. Thereafter disconnected the 8-pin PCIe connector from the PSU. Put back the 12 pin connector for the 4090 in the PSU (didn’t connect the 12 pin connector in any cards due I didn’t use the HOF). Then mounted the SFX PSU and connected 2x8-pin PCIe to the graphics card. That was everything. Still this messed up no bot/no post. Like a dead mb. Will try your way later today. There is nothing in my work that should triggered this no bot/dead mb behavior. What a freaking joke this Asus board is.

Thanks. You said “then reconnect the cord from the wall. What with the 24 pin mb connection to psu? Connect it to the PSU afterwards when you have disconnected the power to the PSU? Should I turn on the power button on PSU in between? This doesn’t surprise me with this trash board. Again thanks my friend. Edit. It will be hopeless if this starts being the trend when I swap In and out old and new graphics cards. Or do some small changes.

Fun start after put in the new second PSU. Connected the power and the cable to the wall . Turned on the on start button and nothing. A slight move on the fans and thats it. Disconnected the graphics card and put in a vanilla GTX 750 without power connector. Aka the pc run on the main PSU. Same here as well. The lights on the Asus MB light up (they do that even without the Be Quiet PSU is turned on-the way beQuiet do it) when I connect power and the PSU button. So the power come to the MB and the lights up on the Aqua Computer high flow NEXT screen. Once I try start the pc I hear a slight click and the fans move a milli second the nothing. Dead. Any ideas? But I think this is the MB. I even cleared the cmos and tried start up. Nothing. No lights in the debug screen on the motherboard when I turn on the power after clean shutdown (all power off). Only the fans move slightly and stop. Same with and without graphics card connected. No error only dead machine. Slight move on the fans then nothing. Also checked the new SFX PSU. Connected the power on the bottom pump and it start run as it should.

Yep, not the best for the 12VHPWR connectors being dragged in and out from the PSU (for the GPU side---I have to live with the risk of fire), HaHa. Better say double risk of smoke and fire due double up with 12VHPWR connectors for the HOF😆 All needed cables will be connected to the PSU the whole time now and it will looks cleaner. + the bonus having unlimited of power connectors in all shape and form have it's value. I will never ever again have to find out where I should/shall steal the needed power from. I expext I won't need more than 2250W for a single PC setup. If not, there is still 1300W SFX PSU's for total of 2800W power, HaHa Damn nice with a huge black box that can fit more than a few PC parts🙂 I will never ever be happy with a small nice and cute gamer-box some individuals prefer. The limitations on how you want it (for me huge drawbacks) is all too much to accept. Hmmm. Whats in the right corner bottom?😀

Here it is. The second PSU (Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W PSU) for my Corsair 1000D build. I found an 750W SFX PSU on the used market. And this in my home town. Jumped in the car drove down to town and grabbed it today. I paid 1400 nok = 132$ (New is 180$ here home). The seller (sorts of gamer kid) bought it in April last year. But he have now upgraded to an 4090 so he was afraid 750W PSU wasn't enough (he wanted the new modern PSU's with native 12VHPWR PCI-E CABLE to reduce the chance for the epic smoke and fire with 4090's. 750W offer more than the targeted 600W SFX PSU I looked at. 150W is still 150W more. I will now have loads of power connectors with two PSU's. And I will have access to 2250W power in one box for my needs. Yep, this will be good. 132$ is still a lot for used 750W PSU but the SFX standard add a premium. Pay more for less, LOOL Isn't that the new norm for todays tech bro @Mr. Fox @electrosoft 🙂 The SFX form factor is damn small. Not what I'm used to. Bigger is always better. But the 50Kg PC build will now get another new 2 Kg on it's weight, HaHa I can now finally clean up inside the black box (hide cables and put back the PSU cover at the bottom). The MSI GTX680 Lighning is in the box now. A lot smaller card than the 4090 HOF. For those of you that enjoy hear my fantastic rasping voice😀 I made a video showing of the damn small SFX PSU. Enjoy Edit. I really love the French doors on the 1000D but Corsair should have made a second cover on the backside of the chassis. If you as me want two PSU's but not the second MB setup. I guess they didn't know some people need or want well above 2000W of power in their PC boxes with a single MB setup🙂

Yep, not so expensive but every single cent saved will be transformed into profits. And they have increased the price point for their cards... They don't want make their mid range cards to be even more expensive..... So none buy them. Hence offer minimum for an acceptable price (if you can say that for 40xx series cards). This is a balance bethween buy or not to buy their graphics cards. Nvidia want you back to the stores for next gen graphics cards. They know you can ride out your xx90 longer than 2 years cadence, and they are fine with that. Because you paid them +1500$ for it. They don't want 400-600$ cards ( "budget") to live longer than 2 years before you'll knocking on their doors for new cards that can play next gen games. Cap amount vram down to minimum is the correct way to go if you want the consumers back to the store fastest possible.

Software/driver features over real hardware improvements is a bad deal. Every new gen graphics will get improved software features. And those features won't be backwards compatible. From what I have seen... Want real hardware improvments then go for the top end SKU. Mid-end will get halFbaked hardware improvements. Saved by new fancy PERFORMANCE features (software based). You can't have both. https://hwbot.org/submission/5268943_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_680_9593_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5268974_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_680_200421_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5268940_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_gtx_680_4528_marks?recalculate=true Edit. New updated tool to play with..... Download area: New version of the MorePowerTools (MPT) and final release of the RedBIOSEditor (RBE) igorslab.de https://www.igorslab.de/neue-version-des-morepowertools-mpt-und-finale-des-redbioseditors-rbe-zum-download/

A bit too late for 3070 and 3080@10GB cards. But will coming vram feature save the vram castrated 4060 and 4060Ti Nvidia graphics cards from running out of vram? We have now features as DLSS to boost performance... Next level is to use compression features to sell overpriced cards with bare minimum of needed vram. Yep, Nvidia know how to make money. We'll learn more about NTC and how NVIDIA plans to develop this tech at SIGGRAPH 2023 in August. It won't be riding to the rescue of current-gen GPUs, though, that's for sure - and it might be some way down the line before we see it realized. Mind you, Wronski sounds confident enough that it's maybe not as far off as we think... NVIDIA Says It Spends 20% of Its Time on Hardware, 80% on software so they can further cut costs on HW level NVIDIA's new texture compression tech could be the end of VRAM worries tweaktown.com | Gaming | May 5, 2023 NVIDIA has developed a new compression algorithm for textures that looks very impressive. VideoCardz spotted the paper from NVIDIA, which is called 'Random-Access Neural Compression of Material Textures,' and was also shared on Twitter by Bart Wronski, a researcher at Team Green who's part of the project. The Neural Texture Compression (NTC) aims to tackle the spiraling requirements for high-res textures, allowing them to better fit into the available RAM. We're told that it delivers 16x more texels than Block Compression or BC (standard GPU-based texture compression).

MSI GTX 680 Lightning https://hwbot.org/submission/5268006_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_680_76289_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5267949_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_680_100104_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5268012_papusan_unigine_heaven___xtreme_geforce_gtx_680_2964.73_dx11_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5268043_papusan_unigine_heaven___basic_geforce_gtx_680_5897.08_dx9_marks?recalculate=true

AMD should never ever increased the X3D lineup. Just make one gamer chips as they did for 5000 series Ryzen. Look at the 7900X3D fiasco. The greed kicked in and they lost their mind. The 7900X3D is in short a 6 core gaming chips for huge premium.

Windows 11 debloater app gets banned from Microsoft Store, dev calls it "a tragedy" neowin.com · 4 hours ago The Windows 11 debloater app BloatyNosy had issues with Microsoft Store policies, which had been seemingly resolved once. However, Microsoft has once again banned the app from its Store. If you wanted to download this third-party utility in case you aren't happy with the "bloatware" on your OS, the app can still be downloaded from GitHub. Do keep in mind though that this is an unofficial tool.

The new Ryzen burnout fixing AMD AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS is reportedly buggy tweaktown.com | May 5, 2023 Recently we reported on a new and mandatory AMD AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS Firmware for all AM5 motherboards built for the new Ryzen 7000 CPUs. This a direct response to the burnout issues found on some Ryzen 7000X3D chips that were damaging both the chip and motherboard. AMD's root cause for the issue was around voltage. The new firmware limits the SoC voltage to 1.3V. It adds other measures/fixes to ensure processors don't exceed their temperature specifications - while not affecting memory overclocking via AMD EXPO profiles. With potentially damaged hardware on the line, no doubt there's a rush to get this out to as many customers (and board partners) as possible, but with ASUS using a BETA release of the new AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS firmware, it looks like there are still issues to work out, which could delay the proper and final rollout of firmware to fix the burnout issue by weeks. So then, what's the current hold-up? Well, it seems that memory speeds are being affected. A report from leaker chi11eddog on Twitter notes that memory speeds are being cut down to DDR5-4400 compared to the DDR5-6000 speeds with the older AGESA 1.0.0.6 BIOS. And what bugs will be baked in next AGESA BIOS Firmware? Hmmm, maybe the older AGESA firmware with manual tuning would be better?

The new Ryzen burnout fixing AMD AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS is reportedly buggy tweaktown.com | May 5, 2023 Recently we reported on a new and mandatory AMD AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS Firmware for all AM5 motherboards built for the new Ryzen 7000 CPUs. This a direct response to the burnout issues found on some Ryzen 7000X3D chips that were damaging both the chip and motherboard. AMD's root cause for the issue was around voltage. The new firmware limits the SoC voltage to 1.3V. It adds other measures/fixes to ensure processors don't exceed their temperature specifications - while not affecting memory overclocking via AMD EXPO profiles. With potentially damaged hardware on the line, no doubt there's a rush to get this out to as many customers (and board partners) as possible, but with ASUS using a BETA release of the new AGESA 1.0.0.7 BIOS firmware, it looks like there are still issues to work out, which could delay the proper and final rollout of firmware to fix the burnout issue by weeks. So then, what's the current hold-up? Well, it seems that memory speeds are being affected. A report from leaker chi11eddog on Twitter notes that memory speeds are being cut down to DDR5-4400 compared to the DDR5-6000 speeds with the older AGESA 1.0.0.6 BIOS.

Yep, and modern (gaming) laptops fail in that task 🙂 Imagine how this would be appreciated also for gaming desktop cards within same SKUs.

MSI GTX 680 Lightning https://hwbot.org/submission/5267210_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_680_579521_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5267228_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_680_51180_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5267158_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_gtx_680_4490_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5267175_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_680_14548_marks?recalculate=true

The "new" old - MSI GTX 680 Lightning https://hwbot.org/submission/5267104_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_680_62217_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5267098_papusan_3dmark_vantage___extreme_geforce_gtx_680_27553_marks/ https://hwbot.org/submission/5267122_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_680_188391_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5267147_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_680_9526_marks?recalculate=true And right in front of Mr. Oviz in 3DM FS GPU score😀 https://hwbot.org/submission/5267149_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_(gpu)_geforce_gtx_680_9977_marks?recalculate=true

Yep, the blind ones didn't see this come. Even when I and a few warned what was to come for Jokebooks, they acted like ostriches. They all put their heads in the sand and hoped for the best. I didn't need see in the crystal ball a few years ago to see this would happen. Neither did @Mr. Foxor @Ashtrix And the laptop gaming jokey's won't be the only CONSUMERS (gamers) that will be scammed by Nvidia and AMD. Also some of the pc gamers will get similar treatments.... 8GB graphics cards is so 2015 (we are now in 2023). When will they (the people) stop act as ostriches?🤔 Gigabyte EEC Listing Confirms AMD RX 7600, Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti Cards for Launch https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-eec-listing-confirms-amd-rx-7600-nvidia-rtx-4060-ti-cards-for-launch

Old is Gold🙂 Newer dosn't always mean better. We know that very well from today's new and modern tech.

I have put in the card. Barely space for the GPU- Reactor box to fit in below the Apex SSD heatsink. So I don't need to remove the Grey/blue Reactor cover. It would have been impossible to mount it correctly if the cover had been tiny bit larger🙂 And it seems it's alive. Both fans spins and the GPU is recognized in the OS. So a good start for the "new" old🙂 Broken games and broken prices for graphics cards. Just the way modern tech works nowadays. Yep, old is gold bro @ryan. I hope more PC gamers will migrate Roll Over over to consoles so they can kick Mr Jensen in the balls. Yep, AMD will get a gain from this but they have to follow Nvidia if they want to compete for Pc gaming. Broken games and exorbitant GPUs: PC gaming is rough right now https://www.pcworld.com/article/1805943/pc-gaming-is-rough-right-now-and-its-depressing.html Who will break their bank and buy brand new 8GB mid-range graphics cards in middle 2023? Will new modern fake frame boost features save this cards from being thrown in the bin within next 2-3 years? And will game developers help Nvidia/AMD to get rid of their brand new 8GB graphics cards? Gigabyte EEC Listing Confirms AMD RX 7600, Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti Cards for Launch https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-eec-listing-confirms-amd-rx-7600-nvidia-rtx-4060-ti-cards-for-launch

The Lightning have landed here home😎 One of the very few unicorn in the graphics cards world. Say hello to the 11 years old MSI N680GTX Lightning. Always wanted me a Lightning card (fully unlocked). This graphics card model together with K|ngp|n, HOF and the Asus Matrix cards have always been the top of the crop for high performance graphics cards. Here are some pict of the old beauty for the pict lover @electrosoft Enjoy🙂 No plastic fantastic as new and modern. Pure metal all over. Who said newer has to be better, LOOL Yep, the card is the full blown Lighning. Not the gimped down N680GTX Lighning-L There is no guarantee you'll get the best top bin (asic) even with the best models. So nothing different than today's modern best binned graphics cards. Will be fun see what love Msi gave this particular Lighning card. Zotac looks weird in comparison. The pipes is placed weird.

$332 USD (euros vs USD) for a fully stripped down board without the extras? Who want to buy the second defective board without the Asus parts and no warranty?... I could buy the Z790 Apex ($760 here) now and then sell it for 428$ in the second hand market 2024 without loosing a cent vs buy a second half-baked board now to make my Z690 Apex board work the way it was meant to be from the beginning. I won't pay $332 USD to make the mem going up from 7000 to 8000 speed. I rather sell my board for $400 then buy a new Z790 Apex and pay the $360 in between. But even this would be foolish. I could buy the second PSU for my Corsair 1000D and a nice NVMe ssd for this amount money.

Yep, and you don't need the newest bro @ryan You may could cook togheter a gaming Pc for around 100-150$. Enjoy 🙂 https://youtu.be/XVQTGHBMuJs

Such answers should only be done in pm. Then just bump the thread. AMD Posts First Loss in Years as Consumer Chip Sales Plummet by 65% Chip sales drop 64%