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Here's the ads video of the small 8Pack Asteroid mini box. You are sure you won't be tempted?😀 My pleasure bro electro 🙂

The bling bling + custom-made distro plates probably push the whole parts package into 5000$ territory with the included EU tax. But i could get a nice looking pc with same Cpu and Gpu + a nice looking used car for the price they want. And this here in tax hell. I had to be drunk near to dead if I would open my wallets for this. What a nightmare to wake up from the day after you have pushed on the trigger and bought it🤯

$13,600 is a lot for a small box with some modern bling bling. Yep, some nice HW but the price doesn't always match what you are willing to pay. But some will buy it anyway. 8 Pack Asteroid MK2 Intel Core i9-13900KS (OC) with 5.5 GHz (P-Cores) Asus ROG Strix Z790-I Gaming WIFI Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 (OC) 32GB DDR5-5600 CL36 5TB SSD storage Mini-ITX case The handcrafted gaming PC relies on custom-made distro plates and hard tubes to cool the entire system, which, like all other components, are highlighted by a large number of ARGB LEDs.

Yep, but have to feed excessively voltage to be able to reach clocks the cheaper cards can run at default voltage is just sad. Remember you pay massive premium for the higher bin. But didn't say you have to go with the cheaper cards with the cheapest made power delivery. Cheap always come at a price that "reflect why it's so cheap". Edit. Forgot to say my Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming is dead. And Gigabyte always go with at least two revisions for their HW within short time. I wouldn't jump right on a newly released graphics cards from Gigabyte. Nope, not me.

Whats the point with all the power phases when the cards crap out at around 3000MHz? At least Der8auer lost in the silicon lottery for his 4090 AORUS Master review sample. And 3015MHz is about as low you can get. Then you have the software... One of the worst out there? For me... I don't put any 4090 card in the shopping cart. Because the 4090 Strix OC is still difficult to get.

Nvidia has quietly started selling its RTX 4090Ti 6000 Ada Generation graphics card. 'Only' $6,800 to $8,600 for 18,176 CUDA cores and vanilla GDDR6. If Nvidia want to release 4090Ti FE at 3000$, then you'll get a bargain deal😎 Add the AIC premium on top and you'll see at least 3300$. Then.... 6 months later its worth 1000$ when 50xx is out. We have been there before with 3090Ti. Nvidia don't need miners to put the "correct" price point for own products. They manage it perfectly themselves. Nvidia RTX 6000 Ada Now Available: 18,176 CUDA Cores at 300W https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-6000-ada-now-available And AMD will offer more of their newest tech.... Cheaper than Nvidias new and shiny come at a price. Underwhelming AMD RDNA 3 Navi 33 performance leak suggests a mediocre generation for midrange GPUs might be on the cards AMD is expected to reveal midrange RDNA 3 cards, possibly the RX 7600/XT, with the Navi 33 GPU sometime in the coming months. Now, the latest rumor claims that the chip will only present measurable yet ultimately unexciting performance gains over the RDNA 2 boards. In essence, we are looking at evolutionary rather than revolutionary performance gains if All_The_Watts’ report is legit. Combine this with the rumor that the RTX 4060 Ti will be 10-15% faster vs the RTX 3060 Ti and one can argue that this generation is looking rather unimpressive in terms of midrange boards. And AMD prefer that you jump over on their newest cards... Isn't it fantastic driver support? Or maybe they have problems make newer drivers works with yesterdays Radeon graphics cards? I don't think I have seen similar from Nvidia before. AMD Software Adrenalin 23.1.2 for RX 7900 Series Third Straight Exclusive Driver, No New Driver for RX 6000 Series Since 48 Days Techpowerup.com | Today, AMD today released the Adrenalin 23.1.2 drivers exclusively for the Radeon RX 7900 series, making it the third straight driver of the kind. There has been no new driver for older GPUs, including the RX 6000 series, including the 7-month old RX 6950 XT, since December 8, 2022 (48 days now), which means the overwhelming majority of AMD Radeon users don't yet have optimization for games such as Forspoken, and Valhiem. The latest 23.1.2 drivers only work with the RX 7900 XT and RX 7900 XTX. These introduce day-zero optimization for "Forspoken," and a handful background improvements for the Vulkan API. AMD fixed the "Delayed Write Failed" error noticed on Windows 11 22H2; less than expected performance with "SpaceEngine," and flickering issues noticed with "Emergency 4." DOWNLOAD: AMD Software Adrenalin 23.1.2 for RX 7900 Series Yep, either they have massive problems with the new cards and the latest and greatest need special treatments or they struggle with how drivers for R7900 series works with older gen cards. Pick whats fits.

I'm not so sure that Cens is one of "those chosen one". And you can clearly see that on Hwbot ranking.

This is somewhat old info bro ryan. Have been known for many years. The best benefits will be for gaming and Jokebooks who have the bios filled up with all sorts of power savings features you can't disable (yep, the OEM love you). If you have latency problems this tool should help on that. And the MSI tool have been baked into NVCleanstall a very long time. Regarding TechPowerUp NVCleanstall. ... Techpowerup released a new version yesterday. https://notebooktalk.net/topic/438-drivers-support-for-laptops-desktops-intel-nvidia-and-amd/?do=findComment&comment=24469 I mean the same was for 12th gen KS chips. And the elite benchers got the best binned 13th gen chips long time ago. They got the 13900K long before Intel released 13th gen last year. And yep... They didn't pay the KS premium price. The got it "Free at no costs" is todays word 🙂 13900KS.... 13900K....

TechPowerUp NVCleanstall v1.15.1 Released Techpowerup.com - Jan 24, 2023 TechPowerUp today released the latest version of TechPowerUp NVCleanstall, a handy utility that lets you take greater control over your NVIDIA GeForce software installation. NVCleanstall lets you disable stuff you probably don't need, such as Telemetry, or legacy components, giving your PC a leaner set of system software from NVIDIA. Version 1.15.1 introduces several handy changes. To begin with, the title screen shows whether the currently installed driver is a Studio driver (optimized for creators). A crash during the background update check for new NVIDIA drivers has been fixed. We've added two more installer tweaks with this release. The first one lets you disable Multiplane Overlay (MPO)—doing so is known to fix certain rare system stuttering issues. Another tweak lets you disable the NVENC concurrent session encoding limits, so you can encode more than two streams in parallel. This tweak uses keylase's patch scripts from GitHub. The "build package" option has been improved to ensure it runs well on systems with more than 20 CPU cores, and better error reporting has been added. Grab TechPowerUp NVCleanstall v1.15.1 from the link below. DOWNLOAD: TechPowerUp NVCleanstall 1.15.1 How to use NVCleanstall: NVCleanstall - NVIDIA Driver Customizer - TechPowerUp How to mod and sign NVIDIA drivers with TPU NVCleanstall

HaHa. But what with the new improved products from the more well renowned brand with first letter starting with A as in Assss or AMD? They follow the same new norm for todays tech world. Nothing good enough for you bro Fox?😎 Edit. AMD have confirmed their never stopping QC/QM problems. This one is the 2nd flaws now coming from their sales department. They can't even post correct info on their own sales page. But I think it was intended and that they was cought with the pants down. https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/news/hardware/prozessoren/60302-nun-doch-oder-ein-fehler-ryzen-7000x3d-prozessoren-mit-oc-unterstützung.html

I wonder how long it will take AMD to lock out all 3rd party tools for oc'ing/tuning older gen AMD HW in the same way as Nvidiots killed of voltage adjustments for Maxwell graphics cards. Most can be done with drivers. Nvidia did it. So can AMD. In short... So, you are on the mercy of the idiots. https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/no-rdna-3-up-for-more-power-tool-says-developer.3794008/ Edit... AMDs consumer products in free fall.... But it looks like for now, AMD suffers more than Apple. While the company is particularly strong with its datacenter-oriented EPYC CPUs, it is relatively weak on the PC market, which is why Bernstein Research cut its per share target for AMD from $95 to $80.

As you can see below... AMD don't want to cater to the performance enhusiasts anymore. All is about giving their main audience (their high core gamer kids) what they ask for.... Fancy Gaming toools. AMD go all in for fully locked hardware. Processors or graphichs cards they, all suffer from same target "Fully locked down". @Mr. Fox are you still keen on jumping on the Red sides hardware a last time? It seems everything AMD put their hands on nowadays turns into a disaster. No RDNA 3 Update for More Power Tool, Says Developer tomshardware.com Locking down the power tables When AMD first indicated that it locked the power play tables(opens in new tab) on its latest Radeon RX 7000-series graphics processors a month ago, it meant one popular overclocking method was not supported at the time. Now, it looks like AMD has completely locked down manipulations of the power play tables with its RDNA 3 GPUs. That means the More Power Tool utility(opens in new tab) will not be able to support the new cards, and overclocking will be essentially limited to AMD's Adrenalin software. "[When it comes to power play tables], pretty much everything is double and triple secured," one of the More Power Tools developers wrote, reports CapFrameX. "[To make things work,] we would have to rewrite firmware and drivers, and we cannot do that. Not even under Linux. So, there will be no MPT for RDNA3. AMD really screwed it up this time." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the symptoms of todays tech. From worse to even more worse (quality)(QC). Make cheaper products that the average Joe is happy to buy. We live in sad days bro @Ashtrix More and more cheapo junk will be thrown out to "cut costs". And we will see more of this in the future. AMD even have to lock out overclocking from their modern gaming processors so they don't go up into fire. Yep, very fragile. Equal fragile as Samsungs new "Pro branded" ssd's. They can barely be used the ways it was meant to be used. Samsung should have removed the "Pro" branding of their best ssd's. And same for AMD... The X moniker in the Cpu SKU name is very misleading. Some think its all about eXtreme. But thats not correct for Ryzen or/and AMD products. The should instead used FL = Fully Locked.

Remember the Phanteks T30 will perform worse vs vanilla Noctua NF-A120 fan at low rpm. And I don't talk about the stronger iPPC fans from Noctua. And at sub 1000 rpm you won't see very much difference in noise with ok'ish quality fans vs high premium fans. I expect you talk about putting the Phanteks as case fans (you'll use iPPC in push pull for the AIO). Paying high premium for case fans is for me a bit odd if you don't use them for feeding air to an AIO that sit inside the chassis.

What with the MC prediction?

You need to test it. But some info here... https://www.overclock.net/threads/overclocking-raptor-lake-13900k-13700k-13600k-etc-results-bins-and-discussion.1799628/post-29124626

Doesn't this below look familiar? Haven't wee seen similar coming from AMD's never stopping QC and QM problems? AMD Ryzen 7000X3D series now listed as ‘unlocked for overclocking’ videocardz.com https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-series-now-listed-as-unlocked-for-overclocking Then you have this nice small notice from Techpowerup.com.... Update Jan 24th: AMD updated their product pages to remove this field altogether. And it seems AMD have even more nice news for the fanboys/girls in the Red camp.... Rumors, yes but with AMD you never know what you'll get as you can clearly see above😎 Dismal AMD RDNA 3 refresh rumor suggests all RDNA 3+ RX 7000 SKUs have been canned Per the leaker, AMD has binned all RDNA 3+ SKUs as they failed to hit performance and efficiency targets. The leaker goes on to say that RDNA 3+ is “bad all platforms”. All_The_Watts previously suggested that the RDNA 3+ would be the “true full fix” as flagship Navi 31 featured in the RX 7900 XT/XTX and mid-range Navi 33 suffer from identical hardware bugs that Team Red was unable to discover until it was too late. Navi 32 and Phoenix APU were reportedly doing fine as AMD had managed to fix the GPUs. The cancelation of the RDNA 3 refresh could be real, as Paul from RedGamingTech has also heard similar reports from some of his sources. Curiously, a few of Paul’s sources maintain that the RDNA 3 refresh is still happening, but it will be a while before the boards are released.

Whats your goal? Push and pull or just fans on one side? If you go with push & Pull then you can get some cheaper/weaker fans. No need for the best high end (max air flow and pressure) then. I still prefer the Noctua NF-12 iPPC 3000. And I use them in push and pull. But this is not really needed if you go with my setup. High performance fans is only needed if you go with single fan setup in push or pull. I got the wrong fans for my son's build. You can look here to get the correct one.... visit the product page. They have changed a bit on the sales page and the 4000 rpm fans on same side is the wrong one to buy. Be sure they arent the server fan's from Hell. You can see it on the fan blade design. Be sure you don't buy fans with this design.... Quiet? Nope. Very wrong😎 This is the fan design you want.... longer and sleeker fan blades. The normal Alphacool fans you want come with black cable sleeving (not the ugly mess above). And the length of the cable is the more normal 40 cm. Yep, you don't need expensive high end performance fans if you go with push and pull. What I returned.... And I always mentioned X. But I think the X model was the one that come first to the shops and reviews.

And I who thought this was your new case and not your MB. Looks damn modern. Yep, I learn something new everyday Or for a brand new AW desktop from Dell😎 The air fryer look/style is on the way to be old. Im pretty sure they would drool seeing an nice shiny Red toaster box from Dell😀

Hynix M-die is a safe bet on Z690. Less finky and if you manage 6400 on M-die you need above 7600 for A-die to get about same/equal performance. And 100$ for 32GB is a good price for Hynix 7600 A-die speed.

Removing results that is valid as my 3DM Fire Srike Extreme and let the top benchers have the leaderbord for themself won't send a clearer signal to the others (see pict above in my previous post)... Edit... In red. Or just start from the top and remove Futuremark benches that have the info clear as glass. See pict below. 'again why start in the middle of the leaderboard? There has to be a reason they do it this way. https://hwbot.org/submission/5130021_splave_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_21023_marks https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/83861241

Yep, the golden boys... https://hwbot.org/submission/5130022_splave_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_49186_marks Can have their results on the leaderboard... https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/83861339 Even the blind man can see that Futuremark don't offer ECC monitoring in some of their older benchmarks... And 4080 as in the 4000 series cards have same GDDR6X vram but don't offer ECC monitoring. And they still have to bench with it enabled, LOOL

Nice small screen bro Fox. I look more after a smaller screen that I can put inside the chassis. There is several options but difficult to see what I want. Around 5.5" up to max 8" size. No need for a bigger one only for some HW info/statistics. Btw... This is nice. Got notice in email from mods on the bot removed one of my subs. And they don't even understand how some of the benchmarks works in Futuremark software with the newer HW. And why pick people from the middle in the leadeboard and not the top benchers? Is this what they mean.... Clearer signals (see red box)? That if you are the elite benchers your bench results won't be blocked? And if they do, they will do it last? This is a mess.

Very nice tech. And the OEM will use it for all it's worth. With todays castrating of max power consumption for next gen laptops (see pict below) they have to steal the needed power from some places (the laptops will still need some fans to cool MB components). From the GPU or the Cpu?😀 Or maybe remove one of the few remaining M.2 slot from the MB?🤔 And with new tech to increase cooling performance they can continue shrink the Chassis thickness (The guy from the tech company said it even himself - Make "thinner" Jokebooks). The goal is still try beat Apple in sleeker design and chassis size. I see it as innovation to the worse for the consumers. In same way as the innovative awful modern tech as Dynamic boost and AMD's equals (SmartShift) to try make laptops thinner and lighter. Yep, it will be a innovation to the worse.

The fun part.... Weird we haven't seen any nvidia cards stored in same way and with same symptoms and with same damage. And Nvidia have sold 1/3 rd of their cards to miners. Oh Well, this was to be expected due so much cards went to the miners. And they won't get rid of cards that fast. They have to be stored some places before some will buy them. Regarding Todays tech. We pay premium for trash.... PSA: Intel I226-V 2.5GbE on Raptor Lake Motherboards Has a Connection Drop Issue: No Fix Available techpowerup.com In the end, we just switched over to the motherboard's second network interface, which is not an Intel NIC, and the issue went away. Another option could be to buy a cheap PCI-Express network card or use the board's integrated Wi-Fi. Still, such issues aren't acceptable, especially not from a world-leading manufacturer like Intel, who once was reputed for the quality of its networking equipment. Intel and its motherboard partners need to get on top of this issue.

It's about for the same. Beat your previous best scores from the previous gen processors. Running Crysis or running Cinebench will be for the same. Then you have the Cpu bottleneck.... Running 2 or 3 years old Cpu's with todays graphics cards and the Cpu will be the bottleneck. And the same will repeat with next gen graphics cards. Gone is the days an older Cpu handled all graphics cards. Would you pair the Quad core Q9000 below with RTX4090?🙂 I go sometimes the opposite way. See what Cpu is worse than the newer one. But the goal is still the same. See if I can beat yesterdays score running same CPU. And new or old doesn't matter For the records... GPUI and GPUI v3.3 ain't the same benchmark. And the same apply for 100M vs 1B🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5177488_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_2_quad_q9000_1min_46sec_737ms https://hwbot.org/submission/5177493_papusan_gpupi_v3.3_for_cpu___100m_core_2_quad_q9000_1min_25sec_985ms https://hwbot.org/submission/5177516_papusan_gpupi_v3.3_for_cpu___1b_core_2_quad_q9000_28min_21sec_977ms?recalculate=true