Mr. Fox

The best thing that could happen would be that millions of performance PC enthusiasts and gamers would be so disgusted with what is happening that they simply elect to not buy anything at all for 2 or 3 years and just continue using their existing products, not upgrade anything in terms of hardware as well as refuse to allow any of the latest Micro$lop OS cancer version and "feature" updates and remain in a semi-permanent holding pattern financially and physically so that the big tech Nazis can get a long, hard and painful look at how it feels to be patently rejected by an entire segment of a target market they thought the could rely on to continue bending over and taking it in the posterior orifice. I'd love to see them all squirming, soul-searching and reflecting on their recent crimes as they look for ways to earn back the trust, respect and admiration that they used to be worthy of, and used to make them filthy rich.

There was an MSI "980" that was a tiny bit longer than a 980M standard MXM that might work. Everything about the form factor is MXM and the fit of components should not be a problem. Heat sink fit is fine, etc. The 980M is also a normal MXM and should work with the form factor and heat sink because it is the same as any other "normal" MXM card. The big Clevo 980 shown in the photo won't fit in the chassis AFAIK. I do not remember if the die is in the same location, but the normal 980M heat sink won't fit.

That is a lot of money, so whatever it is she has not spoken into existence yet could be worrisome if it involves spending an equal amount. Maybe she wants a hand-me-down upgrade. It feels strange to not have anything I want in my EVGA queue, and to not be waiting and hoping for a notification. Strange, but in a good way. The X570 Dark has been available since the week of the product launch day, but ignored because it is obviously of no interest. I added it to my queue when I was hoping to make a silk purse from the 5950X sow's ear, but made the decision to wash my hands of it before the X570 Dark became available. The 3090Ti FTW3 HydroCopper and 3090 Ti KPE were in my queue and I manually removed them. The weird thing is, I do not remember adding either either of those GPUs to my notify list. Maybe I did and forgot that I did.

Yes, I also prefer using pads when it doesn't require a lot of guesswork. They are much easier and cleaner to deal with. The wildcard is how sloppy laptops are made. There is almost no precision involved, and so much variance in models and brands. Even too much variance within the same model thanks to the "heat sink lottery" and you can't always trust that pads that fit on laptop #1 perfectly will also fit on laptop #2 perfectly. On desktops this it almost never a concern because the variance is less and the contact pressure is usually much higher and you can "crush" pads that are just a little bit thicker than ideal by the use of force. With laptops there is little or no force most of the time, and very little wiggle room. If the pads are too thick they are going to interfere with die contact pressure, even if they are very soft and squishy.

They should do something really simple like the Thermalright CPU frame. No need for a complex mechanical ILM with moving parts. I have one of those on both of my systems and it is the perfect CPU retention mechanism and works on the same principle as a RockitCool bare die frame except that it accommodates the IHS. Where it would suck is trying to use an aftermarket IHS. The aftermarket IHS would need to have identical physical dimensions as a stock IHS or come with its own custom CPU frame. It could still be a better IHS though. It could be made from a better material (such as solid silver, or gold plated copper), flatter, and you could keep your stock IHS looking new and unused. They are not as hard as the high thermal rating Fujipoly pads, but they are not as soft as the squishy silicon pads. If you are using the Gelid pads on a laptop with already very weak contact pressure the Gelid Extreme pads could still be harder than ideal. For something like the X170 with screws and no springs, the Gelid Extreme pads should be very good. Not as good as the K5 Pro, but not as messy.

It depends on who their friends are and what they want to believe. If their playmates on Facepoot, Twatter, Discord, TeamSpeak, Instagram and similar social circles are AMD fanboys, that's what they'll go with. If their preference is Intel, they'll go with that. It won't have anything to do with anything truly meaningful or relevant. It's all about being a groupie and gaining the approval of the leaders of the clown possee they want to run with.

That's the story they sold the gamerkidz... single-threaded silliness. That also makes it easy to sell them on low core count consumer CPU junk that enthusiasts don't want, and cheap motherboards with wimpy VRMs and fewer phases. Mediocrity made awesome... Ah, the magic of marketing bullcrap. The sheeple drank the Kool-Aid.

The last can of compressed air I purchased was before I purchased that blower in 2017. I also have an air compressor in my garage, so there is no reason for me to purchase a can of compressed air. The moisture canned air produces is also an unnecessary point of caution that no longer exists. For the really nasty jobs when I have to work on somebody else's computer that has not been properly cared for, I use the air compressor and do the dusting in the driveway so I don't have a mess to clean up inside the house. For my own stuff, the dust has rarely ever accumulated to an extent that blowing it off makes a mess because the amount of dust is so minimal.

This looks like exactly the same one that Brother @electrosoft linked only a little bit less money. Financially, this makes a lot more sense. The one I have is good, but not worth the extremey stupid price it is fetching today. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KKN4T3N

I have no idea, bro. It definitely wasn't that much when I bought it, but that was quite some time ago. That seems pretty steep. If I were buying one today I certainly would not pay that much for it. What I paid for it back in 2017 was borderline too much, even though it is a pretty high end product. https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Powerful-Electronic-Environmentally-Friendly/dp/B01FWSYOME

This is the one I have. I purchased it 4 or 5 years ago when Brother @johnksss recommended it. It is very powerful. You could easily damage something if you were to use it in a haphazard manner. The first time I turned it on it actually startled me for a moment. https://www.amazon.com/Metro-DataVac-500-Watt-0-75-HP-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW

Update 8/31/2022: Both are sold now. Price: $35 USD each (one of each available) Condition: Used by like new... these are not wear and tear items, LOL. Warranty: None Reason for sale: They don't work with 12th Gen CPUs and I don't own 10th/11th Gen any more. Payment: PayPal, Zelle Item location: San Tan Valley, AZ Shipping: Lower 48 US - First Class Package $5 USD International shipping: Actual cost plus any taxes, duties, VAT, etc. I am unable to estimate these costs. Handling time: Next Business Day Feedback: eBay Profile; OC.net MarketPlace Specification: One of each is available. The 11th Gen frame works perfectly for 10th Gen CPUs, but not the other way. (You can't use the 10th Gen on 11th Gen because the rectangle for the die is too small.) These are no longer available from RockitCool, or not in stock.

I tried using an Indium foil sheet, and even on my lapped IHS and perfectly flat water block the temps were higher than using ordinary thermal paste. I even ran an extended load test to "melt" the Indium foil and still wasn't good enough, and the foil either never melted or if it did it turned solid again after cooling and had no evidence of melting. It looked the same as when I inserted it and there was never any good result with it. Graphite sheets were even worse compared to the Indium.

You should give it a try.

The "impact score" results prompted me to test something besides ESET and Malwarebytes, which are the only things I have been wiling to use on the OSes where I use an antivirus program. (I totally remove Defender AV by force on all my OSes and do not use any security software on my benching OSes.) I never use a security "suite" because they are far too bloated and ridiculous. They include all sorts of extra resource-gobbling trash that I don't want. Based on my testing, I may be switching the Panda free antivirus. It consumes fewer resources than ESET or Malwarebytes and the UI of the settings is far better than either of the other two. The advanced settings make more sense. For example, in the circumstances where I do use an antivirus program, I exclude all drives except for the OS drive. I do not want any scans run on drives with files or the other OSes in my multiboot configurations. I do not want removable drives scanned, or a prompt to scan them. These options are presented in a more logical fashion in Panda. With ESET and Malwarebytes (and others I have played around with) you generally can only add file and folder exclusions one at a time. If you have 6 or 8 drives that is between 18 to 24 mouse clicks. Not the end of the world, but certainly not very intelligent. Panda gives me a tree with checkboxes to add them all at once. You can configure everything much faster, with fewer menus and fewer mouse clicks with Panda, but it lacks nothing in terms of configuration. It has everything ESET and Malwarebytes offers. And, it is consumes considerably less memory. The folks at Panda built it to resemble something someone intelligent would want to use. I'm impressed. And, it's free. The only thing negative about it, during installation you have to uncheck a box to NOT install Opera browser. If that is the price of getting it for free, not a big deal.

Check out Micro Center (Inland Store) bundles on Amazon. Both Ryzen and Intel, starting around $350 USD for mobo and CPU. You can definitely get it for less and maybe get something more powerful. https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/D0BEB605-0D00-4DFB-B7D5-1A73ED6A2D0D

Bare die block is sold as well to @Nikado7 at overclock.net.

OK, the damage is done. Delidded with liquid metal on both sides of the IHS and NO CHILLER in this test. 55x all P-cores at 1.410V override. I'd call this a major win. Compared with the temps in the above run using the water chiller and KPX thermal paste... yay. Edit: the watts dropped from 403 to 362.

http://valid.x86.fr/pm5ubi

No worries, bro. Brother @Clamibot got a extraordinarily good 10900K for his X170, so I was really glad that it got to stay within our "Digital Family" here at NotebookTalk.

If you make it thinner it can make it weaker and impair contact as Brother @Vasudev experienced. If it is not flat you should consider replacing with one that is flat (or flatter) if the cold plate is a thin copper sheet. Making it shiny like a mirror can help a tiny bit with better temps with ordinary thermal paste, but you do not want that if you plan to use liquid metal. You actually want to scuff it up a bit with fine sandpaper (not polish it) so the liquid metal can stick better. More important on a laptop that anything else is even contact and increasing contact pressure.

Only item left now is the bare die block. FS: Supercool Computer Intel 10th Gen Bare Die Block

Only item left is the bare die block

It certainly won't be because they "love" their customers. The only thing they feel that way about is money. I think we are already starting to see that, but I do hope it continues and the intensity magnifies.

I know that I have already mentioned that I do not care for the hybrid GPU setups much, but that is the first one from EVGA that I think is aesthetically pleasing. While definitely better that air cooling, aside from the mediocre performance of a GPU AIO compared with a custom loop and full GPU water block, I did not particularly care for the appearance of their hybrids from previous generations. I am glad that I do not want or need a GPU right now, because that is still at least $1,000 more than I believe it is worth. Even though it is a little bit faster stock than a 3090, I am not fully convinced that a 3090 Ti is a upgrade worthy of consideration for anyone that already owns a 3090. Certain aspects of the 3090 Ti seem like a step backward. On a very positive note, now has never been a better time to grab an EVGA Supernova 1600W PSU. I had to remind myself a couple of times I did not need one because $199 is a CRAZY GOOD price for arguably the best PSUs that money can buy. I felt compelled to buy another one because of the price and had to force myself to resist.